TD04 Turbo

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Mark A

#25
February 3, 2016, 08:20 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Hi Richard is the PWR for sale? Do you have any pictures?

I went with Kinugawa 16T so i have a little flexability and if its too laggy then i'll fit a billet wheel. I looked at the Mamba billet 16T but too much money for my first attempt. The crazy thing is Ihave two really good turbos sitting in the garage but just too large for the MR2.

Next big items I need to find are a water pump, been looking at Febi/bosch auxillary pumps and a front mounted rad,I can find them in Aus but not in the UK for sensible money.

Glubux

#26
February 3, 2016, 18:02 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "Mark A"Next big items I need to find are a water pump, been looking at Febi/bosch auxillary pumps and a front mounted rad,I can find them in Aus but not in the UK for sensible money.

I use a Brushless VW pump and a Fiat Cinquencento radiator, about 30£ each.

Mark A

#27
February 3, 2016, 19:37 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Perfect rad in stock at Euro car parts for £34, just need to track the pump down

1979scotte

#28
February 3, 2016, 19:57 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "Mark A"Perfect rad in stock at Euro car parts for £34, just need to track the pump down

Not the first time ive heard that rad being used.
Think rich promoted it to me for when i go for a charge cooler.
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Mark A

#29
February 4, 2016, 08:05 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
New Cinquencento radiator ordered £19 & VW pump with connector as above for £20.

Has anybody else mounted the pump up front? Wondering what would happen if it was really cold, succeptable to ice? I assume most people run with anti freeze/ inhiditor

1979scotte

#30
February 4, 2016, 10:30 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Just fill with long life coolant that would work wouldnt it same as it does for a normal rad.

Links for those parts mate?
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Mark A

#31
February 4, 2016, 14:22 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Aution site numbers

Pump 191713564363 this is second hand but off 2014 car

Radiator 191777015784 brand new, used them for MR2 and good quality

1979scotte

#32
February 5, 2016, 10:51 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Thanks
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Mark A

#33
February 5, 2016, 12:51 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Both arrived today on my way to Argos to collect, I'll post some pictures later

Mark A

#34
February 8, 2016, 22:43 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest

SEAT aux pump

Mark A

#35
February 8, 2016, 22:44 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest

Fiat radiator

Mark A

#36
February 8, 2016, 22:49 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Anybody know what cheap expansion tank I could use? Need it to have 2x 20mm outlets, Renault 5GTT or Clio 16V look possible but might be too large

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Mark A

#37
February 17, 2016, 20:56 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Turbo has landed, final small parts ordered and hopefully in the next couple of weeks I will install and add a bit of boost to my life.

mr-ed_smt

#38
February 17, 2016, 21:02 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Lovely! What's the Kinugawa turbo like? I've heard really mixed reviews.
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Mark A

#39
February 17, 2016, 21:21 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quality looks ok, can't fault it for the money. If I was racing or competing in the MR2 then I'd have used a better know brand. But for this application it's not stressed and should be OK. It only cost £175 with the fitting kit and £30 tax and import duty.

I'll update once I've had a proper look and mock up.

mr-ed_smt

#40
February 17, 2016, 21:29 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Blimey! That is cheap - I thought they were about £330?
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Mark A

#41
February 17, 2016, 21:41 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
And I've got another voucher for 10% off my next Kinugawa purchase!

CrazySX

#42
February 21, 2016, 19:33 Last Edit: February 22, 2016, 08:21 by CrazySX
Quote from: "Mark A"Quality looks ok, can't fault it for the money. If I was racing or competing in the MR2 then I'd have used a better know brand. But for this application it's not stressed and should be OK. It only cost £175 with the fitting kit and £30 tax and import duty.

I'll update once I've had a proper look and mock up.
TD04 16T I should learn to read back doh.

mr-ed_smt

#43
February 21, 2016, 20:33 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "Mark A"Turbo has landed, final small parts ordered and hopefully in the next couple of weeks I will install and add a bit of boost to my life.
Would it be possible to spin the turbo round so that the wastegate is on the right hand side? Be interesting to know if you can rotate the compressor around (so the outlet points out not in) - presume you'd need to also rotate the actuator bracket?
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Mr X

#44
February 22, 2016, 10:47 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "mr-ed_smt"
Quote from: "Mark A"Turbo has landed, final small parts ordered and hopefully in the next couple of weeks I will install and add a bit of boost to my life.
Would it be possible to spin the turbo round so that the wastegate is on the right hand side? Be interesting to know if you can rotate the compressor around (so the outlet points out not in) - presume you'd need to also rotate the actuator bracket?
I think it should be mounted on the manifold the other way around so the waste gate is on the O/S of the car. You can normally rotate the compressor housings, it looks like it needs to go clockwise 45deg once it's on the exhaust the other way.
Where did you get this from? I keep looking at the whifbitz kit but I think that's a lot of lolly for what you get.
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mr-ed_smt

#45
February 22, 2016, 12:12 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "Mr X"I think it should be mounted on the manifold the other way around so the waste gate is on the O/S of the car. You can normally rotate the compressor housings, it looks like it needs to go clockwise 45deg once it's on the exhaust the other way.
Where did you get this from? I keep looking at the whifbitz kit but I think that's a lot of lolly for what you get.
Yes, I agree - the wastegate on the offside. But unless you can rotate the compressor housing, the outlet would point in towards the block.From the look of these turbos (Kinugawa TD04s) the limiting factor to whether you can rotate them appears to be how you refit the wastegate actuator.
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Mr X

#46
February 22, 2016, 16:13 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "mr-ed_smt"Yes, I agree - the wastegate on the offside. But unless you can rotate the compressor housing, the outlet would point in towards the block.From the look of these turbos (Kinugawa TD04s) the limiting factor to whether you can rotate them appears to be how you refit the wastegate actuator.

I did a quick google, rather than bolts around the edge there's a big clip holding the housing on and a locator pin so the housing won't rotate without taking a grinder to it and chopping off the pin!

http://www.homemadeturbo.com/forced-induction-7/how-rotate-compressor-td04-4771/
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Mark A

#47
February 22, 2016, 17:33 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
I plan to test mounting the turbo with the cold side closest to the current air filter (nearside), so rotated by 180 degrees, I need to check the clearance between the block and the turbo first, but I'll need to remove the current exhaust manifold.

When I've taken TD04 apart you can pull the pin out with a pair of pliers once the the massive cir-clip is removed. With this universal Turbo kit you can rotate the compressor housing and then line up the waste-gate actuator mount with the pre-drilled holes

You can develop a DIY kit for much less than £1k, I've taken my time and been collecting parts, some second hand to keep the price down. I've still a small number of outstanding items I need before starting to fit this.

I watched an interesting YouTube video where two guys turbo'd a MX5 using a Forester Turbo on a small budget.

CrazySX

#48
February 22, 2016, 19:49 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
What engine management are you planning yo use? Have you got it yet?

Handy that turbo comes with all the lines and actuator. I might get one too. It's a T25 so spool up will be a lot quicker than a T28.

Mark A

#49
February 22, 2016, 20:48 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
I have a Greddy Emanage I plan to use, I could also use a Syvecs from the Impreza but I'd need a loom etc and the Greddy in PnP.

All the lines etc was a big bonus, and a saving in the long run.

More silicone pipes, K&N air filter (but looks too small) and the sump return pipe/boss arrived today. Remaining big item is the injectors, missed some on eBay today but hopefully I've spotted another set. I will also check the dimensions of Subaru pink injectors because they look a similar size
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