The 1ZZ Turbo Engine Dream Build

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Essex2Visuvesi

#50
August 1, 2017, 19:28 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
I'm going for the Adaptronic and selling my Apexi setup
 m http://www.adaptronic.com.au/product/e440d/ m

lamcote

#51
August 1, 2017, 20:52 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Why have you chosen that one?
Silver 2004 MR2 -  Unmodified but very shiny.

Essex2Visuvesi

#52
August 1, 2017, 21:04 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "lamcote"Why have you chosen that one?

A tuner friend of mine knows these ECUs inside out. Granted its on the RX7/8 but he's keen to branch out and we have plans to build a Rotary 2 in the future.
Also he will be making up a Plug and play loom that will be available for sale which increases the options for others

lamcote

#53
August 1, 2017, 21:13 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Sounds good. Is it standalone?
Silver 2004 MR2 -  Unmodified but very shiny.

1979scotte

#54
August 1, 2017, 21:20 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "lamcote"Sounds good. Is it standalone?

It's a standalone and is quite fully featured.
Price isn't bad either.
It's something worth considering.
This and the ECU master EMU Black offer good value over Link Storm or Fury ECU.
Also if it comes with a 1zz plug and play harness I think that will be a first for a standalone.
No I don't count the Apexi PFC.
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Essex2Visuvesi

#55
August 1, 2017, 21:41 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "lamcote"Sounds good. Is it standalone?

From an engine management point of view yes... however in practice to make life easier it would still require the stock ECU to run the dash

1979scotte

#56
August 1, 2017, 22:11 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "Essex2Visuvesi"
Quote from: "lamcote"Sounds good. Is it standalone?

From an engine management point of view yes... however in practice to make life easier it would still require the stock ECU to run the dash

Why?
Pretty sure they have can bus.
Isn't that what the dash runs off.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
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paul.mcgrath

#57
August 2, 2017, 13:25 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
So whats the list of parts required for a forged 1zz build....?

How about listing parts and where we can get them for people looking to do this ....?

 m https://www.monkeywrenchracing.com/prod ... ta-1zz-fe/ m

This is what I've been looking at but costs a fortune to get it here and plus tax ....
2000 MRS Blue , 2004 facelift engine , Whifbitz Turbo conversion 176bhp 190lbft, hardtop ,Meister coilovers, R8 18&19" wheels, Matt brace
facelift headlights , Monocraft bodykit

1979scotte

#58
August 2, 2017, 14:57 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "paul.mcgrath"So whats the list of parts required for a forged 1zz build....?

How about listing parts and where we can get them for people looking to do this ....?

 m https://www.monkeywrenchracing.com/prod ... ta-1zz-fe/ m

This is what I've been looking at but costs a fortune to get it here and plus tax ....

Forged rods and pistons is all you really need.
Rods you can get from Paul @TCB.
Pistons MWR is the cheapest I have seen even taking tax and shipping into account.
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m1tch

#59
August 2, 2017, 16:28 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
+1 on getting rods from TCB, also have pricing on the 1zz pistons as well, not quite as cheap as MWR but no hidden import duty etc.

1979scotte

#60
August 2, 2017, 17:32 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "m1tch"+1 on getting rods from TCB, also have pricing on the 1zz pistons as well, not quite as cheap as MWR but no hidden import duty etc.

Import duty is something like 20% vat plus 5% duty. They even charge you vat on the shipping robbing bar stewards.
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paul.mcgrath

#61
August 2, 2017, 18:15 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
I have been in touch with Paul  , very helpful , got my shopping list now ,

you never stop spending money on these cars .......  s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
2000 MRS Blue , 2004 facelift engine , Whifbitz Turbo conversion 176bhp 190lbft, hardtop ,Meister coilovers, R8 18&19" wheels, Matt brace
facelift headlights , Monocraft bodykit

m1tch

#62
August 2, 2017, 21:44 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "paul.mcgrath"I have been in touch with Paul  , very helpful , got my shopping list now ,

you never stop spending money on these cars .......  s:shock: :shock: s:shock:

But then again its a good car to spend money on, I chose the mk3 MR2 as its got a low stock weight, good handling and looks great, would rather spend £xxx on the MR2 than a 1.2 Corsa.

1979scotte

#63
August 2, 2017, 21:52 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "m1tch"
Quote from: "paul.mcgrath"I have been in touch with Paul  , very helpful , got my shopping list now ,

you never stop spending money on these cars .......  s:shock: :shock: s:shock:

But then again its a good car to spend money on, I chose the mk3 MR2 as its got a low stock weight, good handling and looks great, would rather spend £xxx on the MR2 than a 1.2 Corsa.

Why mod an MR2? I couldn't live day to day with an Elise and I would be scared of breaking a Boxster.

I know a guy that has a vxr corsa. I think it has maybe 400bhp certainly more than 300.
What is the point as it FWD I can't believe it can handle that power.
Suppose it would be good at the strip.
Not my cup of tea.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
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paul.mcgrath

#64
August 2, 2017, 22:43 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
+1 as people say for our car , I'm sure we could all buy an Elise exige etc etc .....

I want/like something "unique"  with our own personal angle , I never stop spending money on our cars , cause I want to  s:D :D s:D
2000 MRS Blue , 2004 facelift engine , Whifbitz Turbo conversion 176bhp 190lbft, hardtop ,Meister coilovers, R8 18&19" wheels, Matt brace
facelift headlights , Monocraft bodykit

maybeturbo

#65
August 2, 2017, 23:06 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
For me, my car absolutely must be rwd, and to have a rwd car under 1000kg is pretty rare and special, especially mid engined and with a great factory lsd. When you have that package with over 200hp you've basically got yourself a mini alfa 4c for about 5 grand. An absolute bargain if you ask me.

Back on topic- how about an apexi avcr instead of the blitz one you mention, unless you get similar functions from that unit (im not familiar with it) The ability to adjust the boost pressure for every individual gear and even by rpm in each gear will no doubt save your gearbox when your shooting for more power. I've got one on the shelf, never had the time to fit it though, had one in every one of my previous boosted cars.

Essex2Visuvesi

#66
August 2, 2017, 23:57 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "maybeturbo"Back on topic- how about an apexi avcr instead of the blitz one you mention, unless you get similar functions from that unit (I'm not familiar with it) The ability to adjust the boost pressure for every individual gear and even by rpm in each gear will no doubt save your gearbox when your shooting for more power. I've got one on the shelf, never had the time to fit it though, had one in every one of my previous boosted cars.

The SBC iD is essentially the same as the AVC-R
 m http://www.mkivsupraownersclub.com/Reso ... manual.pdf m
I have the optional Power meter as well which increases functionality
 m http://www.supracentral.com/foundation/ ... er_i-d.pdf m

maybeturbo

#67
August 3, 2017, 00:28 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
That's cool. I recently coated my power enterprise mls gaskets with a special copper spray and replaced all the studs and nuts with stainless aerotight ones, seem to be really good quality, I'd definitely recommend them.

Essex2Visuvesi

#68
August 3, 2017, 11:10 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
I've done the same with mine... all the studs/bols are now stainless and all nuts are aerotight with spring washers

m1tch

#69
August 3, 2017, 12:51 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
What about head porting? I might look to just clean the current ports up a bit and gasket match and nothing more, the turbo will be forcing the air into the engine so although there are gains to be had with porting its not quite as important as an NA build. Saying that I know that if the head doesn't flow well and there are restrictions the turbo will have to work harder to flow the same air - have read that for a turbo build its best to build the best NA engine (in terms of reducing restrictions) and then bolt a turbo to it.

Also, the 1zz head isn't a Yamaha head so it can be improved, if we were talking about a 2zz I would probably say to leave the head alone, but I know there will be gains on a 1zz head.

I think we would also need to discuss the inlet manifold as well as I am not sure what the stock plastic ones are rated to!

maybeturbo

#70
August 3, 2017, 13:34 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Port matching may be worthwhile as the turbo manifold is going to be a bit bigger than the ports in the head but going to town on a head professionally costs so much money and in real world terms you'll probably only notice a quicker spool and a bit more response, that pe turbo spools so early anyway, around 1300 rpm it begins to make positive pressure and I believe it's only capable of under 10psi effectively. I bet you'd get more effect by switching the cat in and out every mot and save a lot of money too.
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