Bargain-bucket MR2

Started by The Arch Bishop, July 15, 2017, 18:13

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Bossworld

Do update us when you can.  Possible tautology on the tester's part but nearside inoperative on one side?!  Surely they don't mean one pad isn't touching.

The nearside cable seems to be the longer of the two, on mine, the equaliser bracket pulls the nearside up and then the offside catches up to pull straight.

AdamR28

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Quote from: Joesson on November  3, 2020, 13:07That wasn't in the script!

Flippin' wasn't, was it!

Just finished fettling now and finally have a pass.


TL:DR: The moral of the story is some of the calipers are just plain crap. This appears to be the aftermarket ones, the OE ones are tons better

I have ended up fitting a caliper off Mr Poo and it increased the brake force by ~250% on that side immediately, even without a little extender arm.

Some background...

To pass the MOT, there is no imbalance calculation (although both of them have to do something), just an overall brake force amount, calculated in percent from a table of gross vehicle weights.

The MR2 is listed at 1110kg (assume that's a full tank of fuel, with driver), and you need to make 16% to pass - ie. 178kg of brake force.

The test is done on rollers (rather than static), and the retardation force measured. I assume this effectively takes into account the wheel / tyre radius, as obviously the handbrake applies a torque and it measures a force - perhaps a little sneaky cheat could be to fit smaller wheels...


Anyway, El Bucket started at 0 (!) and 80kg. The zero side was the refurb / re-manufactured caliper. I think something went wrong when I was bedding in the fresh pads - the handbrake mechanism seemed to have gone past some sort of over-centre point, and it was locked in the 'on' position but providing no brake force at all. I must admit to driving along yanking the handbrake pretty hard in order to bed the pads in, so that may be the culprit. The other side was an old but OE caliper, without an extender.

2nd try - added an extender to the right hand caliper (OE), and a longer extender to the left hand caliper. 40kg and 110kg this time, still not enough.

3rd try - stuck an old but good condition OE caliper from Mr Poo onto the crap side, without an extender: 105kg left and 120kg right.

(For comparison, the 'normal' brake force tests came out at 220kg left (with the caliper that had the crap handbrake mechanism) and 190kg right.)

Three things to come out of this:

1) The OE calipers are definitely the best in this respect.

2) There seems to be a little variation in the test. Whether this is kit inaccuracy or simply the tester pulling the handbrake harder / less hard, it shows that if you are close to a fail it could be worth a repeat of the test with - say - slightly warm brake pads or an extra hard yank on the lever.

3) The extenders work, with a significant increase in brake force recorded from fitting them.


The Bucket lives another year, hooray! Time to get onto treating some of the rusty bits and investigate that rear left drone / whine / grinding noise, when I can be arsed.



The Arch Bishop

Yeah, the new caliper was one from a seller that is recommended all around the Facebook groups, so I can only guess that there are some that work but the tolerances in the manufacturing process are utter pants and I got one of 'the bad ones.'

Best bet is to get a genuine one rebuilt it seems which is what my original plan was. Kicking myself now about that one!

Adam - the pads were put on when the calipers were still binding slightly, which may have muffed the bedding in.

Joesson

@AdamR28 said:
"must admit to driving along yanking the handbrake pretty hard in order to bed the pads in, so that may be the culprit".

I suggest that is not the very best procedure for Public Road bedding in of brakes.
Don't ask me how I know!

AdamR28

Come on, we need the story :D

I have done this many times before without issue, btw.

Joesson

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In the late 80's I serviced MrsJ's Fiesta and took it out along the dual c'way by pass for a road test including the hand brake. Fiesta's and Armco don't mix well, it was repaired " because it was otherwise in good condition".
We sold it a few years later and it was soon after rear ended and written off, the payout was more than we sold it for!

1979scotte

Quote from: Joesson on November  3, 2020, 17:11This post will self destruct in 5 seconds!

In the late 80's I serviced MrsJ's Fiesta and took it out along the dual c'way by pass for a road test including the hand brake. Fiesta's and Armco don't mix well, it was repaired " because it was otherwise in good condition".
We sold it a few years later and it was soon after rear ended and written off, the payout was more than we sold it for!


Bet Mrs J was well pleased.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Free Ukraine 🇺🇦

Joesson

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Quote from: Joesson on November  3, 2020, 17:11This post will self destruct in 5 seconds!

In the late 80's I serviced MrsJ's Fiesta and took it out along the dual c'way by pass for a road test including the hand brake. Fiesta's and Armco don't mix well, it was repaired " because it was otherwise in good condition".
We sold it a few years later and it was soon after rear ended and written off, the payout was more than we sold it for!


Bet Mrs J was well pleased.


"Don't worry, it's only metal" she said when she saw the damaged front offside, then she saw the damaged rear offside and the tone changed.I did point out that the door was unmarked, but that really didn't help me!

1979scotte

Quote from: Joesson on November  3, 2020, 19:40
Quote from: 1979scotte on November  3, 2020, 19:35
Quote from: Joesson on November  3, 2020, 17:11This post will self destruct in 5 seconds!

In the late 80's I serviced MrsJ's Fiesta and took it out along the dual c'way by pass for a road test including the hand brake. Fiesta's and Armco don't mix well, it was repaired " because it was otherwise in good condition".
We sold it a few years later and it was soon after rear ended and written off, the payout was more than we sold it for!


Bet Mrs J was well pleased.


"Don't worry, it's only metal" she said when she saw the damaged front offside, then she saw the damaged rear offside and the tone changed.I did point out that the door was unmarked, but that really didn't help me!

I know how it feels when she's got the hump with you. Still worry that I'm due a clip round the ear.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Free Ukraine 🇺🇦

Joesson

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Quote from: Joesson on November  3, 2020, 19:40
Quote from: 1979scotte on November  3, 2020, 19:35
Quote from: Joesson on November  3, 2020, 17:11This post will self destruct in 5 seconds!

In the late 80's I serviced MrsJ's Fiesta and took it out along the dual c'way by pass for a road test including the hand brake. Fiesta's and Armco don't mix well, it was repaired " because it was otherwise in good condition".
We sold it a few years later and it was soon after rear ended and written off, the payout was more than we sold it for!


Bet Mrs J was well pleased.


"Don't worry, it's only metal" she said when she saw the damaged front offside, then she saw the damaged rear offside and the tone changed.I did point out that the door was unmarked, but that really didn't help me!

I know how it feels when she's got the hump with you. Still worry that I'm due a clip round the ear.
The female of the species is renowned for their long memory so doubt that she's forgotten. But then you are unforgettable!

1979scotte

Quote from: Joesson on November  3, 2020, 19:53
Quote from: 1979scotte on November  3, 2020, 19:43
Quote from: Joesson on November  3, 2020, 19:40
Quote from: 1979scotte on November  3, 2020, 19:35
Quote from: Joesson on November  3, 2020, 17:11This post will self destruct in 5 seconds!

In the late 80's I serviced MrsJ's Fiesta and took it out along the dual c'way by pass for a road test including the hand brake. Fiesta's and Armco don't mix well, it was repaired " because it was otherwise in good condition".
We sold it a few years later and it was soon after rear ended and written off, the payout was more than we sold it for!


Bet Mrs J was well pleased.


"Don't worry, it's only metal" she said when she saw the damaged front offside, then she saw the damaged rear offside and the tone changed.I did point out that the door was unmarked, but that really didn't help me!

I know how it feels when she's got the hump with you. Still worry that I'm due a clip round the ear.
The female of the species is renowned for their long memory so doubt that she's forgotten. But then you are unforgettable!

How did I know it was Jane that applauded that without looking.

@Chilli Girl
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Free Ukraine 🇺🇦

Joesson

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Quote from: 1979scotte on November  3, 2020, 21:50
Quote from: Joesson on November  3, 2020, 19:53
Quote from: 1979scotte on November  3, 2020, 19:43
Quote from: Joesson on November  3, 2020, 19:40
Quote from: 1979scotte on November  3, 2020, 19:35
Quote from: Joesson on November  3, 2020, 17:11This post will self destruct in 5 seconds!

In the late 80's I serviced MrsJ's Fiesta and took it out along the dual c'way by pass for a road test including the hand brake. Fiesta's and Armco don't mix well, it was repaired " because it was otherwise in good condition".
We sold it a few years later and it was soon after rear ended and written off, the payout was more than we sold it for!


Bet Mrs J was well pleased.


"Don't worry, it's only metal" she said when she saw the damaged front offside, then she saw the damaged rear offside and the tone changed.I did point out that the door was unmarked, but that really didn't help me!

I know how it feels when she's got the hump with you. Still worry that I'm due a clip round the ear.
The female of the species is renowned for their long memory so doubt that she's forgotten. But then you are unforgettable!

How did I know it was Jane that applauded that without looking.

@Chilli Girl

ESP?

1979scotte

Quote from: Joesson on November  3, 2020, 22:16
Quote from: 1979scotte on November  3, 2020, 21:50
Quote from: Joesson on November  3, 2020, 19:53
Quote from: 1979scotte on November  3, 2020, 19:43
Quote from: Joesson on November  3, 2020, 19:40
Quote from: 1979scotte on November  3, 2020, 19:35
Quote from: Joesson on November  3, 2020, 17:11This post will self destruct in 5 seconds!

In the late 80's I serviced MrsJ's Fiesta and took it out along the dual c'way by pass for a road test including the hand brake. Fiesta's and Armco don't mix well, it was repaired " because it was otherwise in good condition".
We sold it a few years later and it was soon after rear ended and written off, the payout was more than we sold it for!


Bet Mrs J was well pleased.


"Don't worry, it's only metal" she said when she saw the damaged front offside, then she saw the damaged rear offside and the tone changed.I did point out that the door was unmarked, but that really didn't help me!

I know how it feels when she's got the hump with you. Still worry that I'm due a clip round the ear.
The female of the species is renowned for their long memory so doubt that she's forgotten. But then you are unforgettable!

How did I know it was Jane that applauded that without looking.

@Chilli Girl

ESP?

Especial Scotte Perceptioni
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Free Ukraine 🇺🇦

Joesson

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Quote from: Joesson on November  3, 2020, 22:16
Quote from: 1979scotte on November  3, 2020, 21:50
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Quote from: 1979scotte on November  3, 2020, 19:43
Quote from: Joesson on November  3, 2020, 19:40
Quote from: 1979scotte on November  3, 2020, 19:35
Quote from: Joesson on November  3, 2020, 17:11This post will self destruct in 5 seconds!

In the late 80's I serviced MrsJ's Fiesta and took it out along the dual c'way by pass for a road test including the hand brake. Fiesta's and Armco don't mix well, it was repaired " because it was otherwise in good condition".
We sold it a few years later and it was soon after rear ended and written off, the payout was more than we sold it for!


Bet Mrs J was well pleased.


"Don't worry, it's only metal" she said when she saw the damaged front offside, then she saw the damaged rear offside and the tone changed.I did point out that the door was unmarked, but that really didn't help me!

I know how it feels when she's got the hump with you. Still worry that I'm due a clip round the ear.
The female of the species is renowned for their long memory so doubt that she's forgotten. But then you are unforgettable!

How did I know it was Jane that applauded that without looking.

@Chilli Girl

ESP?

Especial Scotte Perceptioni

Of course, the one and only!


(thankfully)


SV-3

Quote from: Joesson on November  4, 2020, 09:09
Quote from: 1979scotte on November  4, 2020, 07:24
Quote from: Joesson on November  3, 2020, 22:16
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Quote from: Joesson on November  3, 2020, 19:53
Quote from: 1979scotte on November  3, 2020, 19:43
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Quote from: Joesson on November  3, 2020, 17:11This post will self destruct in 5 seconds!

In the late 80's I serviced MrsJ's Fiesta and took it out along the dual c'way by pass for a road test including the hand brake. Fiesta's and Armco don't mix well, it was repaired " because it was otherwise in good condition".
We sold it a few years later and it was soon after rear ended and written off, the payout was more than we sold it for!


Bet Mrs J was well pleased.


"Don't worry, it's only metal" she said when she saw the damaged front offside, then she saw the damaged rear offside and the tone changed.I did point out that the door was unmarked, but that really didn't help me!

I know how it feels when she's got the hump with you. Still worry that I'm due a clip round the ear.
The female of the species is renowned for their long memory so doubt that she's forgotten. But then you are unforgettable!

How did I know it was Jane that applauded that without looking.

@Chilli Girl

ESP?

Especial Scotte Perceptioni

Of course, the one and only!


(thankfully)


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Joesson

#490
@SV-3 suggested that @1979scotte use of ESP refers to:
"Evidently Stresses Pensioners".


That is perhaps the case. I do believe that there are also some others in that, every day is a holiday, section of society enjoying the benefits of this Forum. However that the aforesaid Mr S endeavours to particularly "stress" that section I do not believe. I do believe that he is a caring and sharing member who does not differentiate by ageism or other means as to whom he dispenses his words of wisdom. I for one enjoy his candid comments, I might not always agree with them, but it is, in a Democracy, the right of each person to express their opinion, be they right or wrong, but hopefully never indifferent.
I await the further cut and thrust of considered argument and general banter.

PS.
But perhaps in some other part of the Forum than the @The Arch Bishop. / @AdamR28 's thread !







AdamR28

Insert best PC Plod voice here:

Ello ello ello, what's goin on ere then?  :o

Well, it appears the rear left of The Bucket is cursed! Rear brake caliper started leaking (quite badly) so my first application of the brakes one fine morning at 5am on the way to work was... interesting.

Quick call to Dick Sloane, caliper sent out the same day at a great price, arrived quickly and fitted.

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Turns out its one of the refurbished ones so the handbrake is poor again - perfectly well if you're aware of it, but probably won't pass an MOT. Will cross that bridge next year!

The rear left grinding certainly isn't getting any better, and I'm now wondering if it could be the gearbox... only one way to find out I suppose, but I won't have time before the winter sprint at Cadwell in a couple of weeks. Hopefully it'll get through the day and get me back home...

AdamR28

So here I am, watching snooker, while sat on the bed in a spare room of someone's house in a sleepy village called Bishop Norton. £25 for the night, found on booking.com - can't say fairer than that!

I mention the name because I find it quite funny that the Bucket was previously owned by @The Arch Bishop ! The Bucket is sat outside on the drive, obviously.

We're both (The Bucket and I) having an overnight stop on the way to Cadwell Park, for Javelin's 'Winter Sprint' event. I figured getting wet and cold while queueing wouldn't be much fun in the MunteR2, and I needed an excuse to actually use the hardtop I'd spent more on than the car (regs state you need a functional roll hoop or a hard top).

The event tomorrow is not like a normal sprint - there's two different layouts being run, the second of which will have a run or two in the dark! Timing is also cumulative, rather than 'best run counts', and additional chicanes are being added into the layout. So, in some ways, its a bit like a rally.

The weather forecast is awful so I'm very much looking forward to seeing how the plucky little MR2 can get on against some much more expensive, powerful and developed machinery!

Live timing will be here throughout the day for anyone interested: http://www.vola-racing.com/msportspro/javelintrackdays/


AdamR28

Ready to roll and roll! Wet, cold and veerryyy slippery, just the way I like it  8)

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Timed runs will start in about an hour.

The Arch Bishop

Born to wear a racing number.

Come on the Bucket!

AdamR28

#495
Cars. Aren't they amazing?

A 20 year old vehicle purchased for buttons, driven for over 300 miles at 35mpg+ (despite a reasonable chunk of that spent sideways and / or bouncing off the limiter), kept me dry and warm all day / night, provided me with entertainment in the form of music and an audio book - almost picked up a trophy and then got me to work this morning. How brilliant is that?
 

Sunday started with a 45 minute cruise through the wet-but-quiet back roads of Lincolnshire. I love driving in this part of the world. The roads are in good condition, everywhere is flat and open - it's just very relaxing, especially with a Jack Reacher audiobook playing through the speakers.

Arriving at the circuit - as bleak as Cadwell usually is in December - I went straight to noise testing, get the first bit of bureaucracy out of the way. A 'result' of 91dB was well below the 105 limit for the event, happy days. I had no idea how loud the exhaust would be due to that small can, but it shows it works sufficiently well!

On a similar note, I'm sure the drive in helped keep the reading down. If anyone does struggle with noise limits on a track day, get the car properly hot before testing - I've seen 5-6dB difference between a cold and hot car before.

Anyway, following a quick catch up with a few familiar faces, sign on was completed and the numbers stuck on the car. Ready to go!

The layout and scoring for this event was very different to normal sprints. Cumulative times through the day, with time penalties for leaving the track or hitting cones, and two different layouts - more like a rally, in fact.

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The first practice run was... interesting. One thing - the extra chicanes added to the layouts really interrupted the flow of what is normally a lovely circuit. It felt a bit frustrating having to use 1st gear for the tight bits. However, I understood the need for this, keeping corner speeds down especially in the dark. It did however put me at a distinct disadvantage - having the slowest accelerating car in the class (up to 2.0L non-turbo cars meant all sorts of stuff like Celicas, Clios, Civics and newer MX5s) really hurt coming out of the chicanes, and my knowledge of the circuit counted for less as I couldn't carry corner speeds down the straights. Never mind, I reminded myself, you're here for fun!

The second thing - I forgot how tired standard dampers would vary significantly from the nice, new Konis I'd been using the week before. Straight out the start, into Hall Bends. Top of 2nd gear, tight, armco down both sides, very slippery under the trees, cold tyres, cold brakes, wet and cold track. A slight twitch through the first corner. The kerb on the inside upset the car on the second corner - huge opposite lock. Then, due to lack of rebound damping, a massive tank-slapper which meant slamming into the lock stops the opposite way through the 3rd corner in order to keep it on the black stuff. It was going to be a day of coaxing the car round... Especially with a ton of tight direction changes!

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And we even got sent through the motorbike chicane, with extra obstacles!

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Now I'm going to have a little moan here, but try and keep it as short as I can and get it out the way. This is what annoys me about 'motorsport' - the person who throws the biggest wallet at the job often wins. So some chap rocked up in his motorhome dragging an mx-engineinwrongplace  upgraded with Ohlins dampers, ITBs and a standalone ECU, full custom exhaust, Enkei RPF1 wheels, Yoko A052 tyres, buckets and harnesses. He'd entered the 'Standard' car class. Now he can clearly read, because he'd left all the interior in and kept the car visually standard to try and make it meet the regs, so why blatantly cheat like this? Frustrating.

Turns out most of the 'standard' cars in the 'standard' class had thrown go-faster bits on too - fancy dampers, buckets and harnesses, uprated ARBs, stripped interiors, etc. Javelin keep the regs fairly loose on purpose, allowing competitors to self-regulate, but if you've knowingly modified your car significantly I don't get why you'd enter the 'Standard' class, especially when the rules forbid this. The 'Modified' class is there for these competitors. Anyway, moving on...


Remember the film 'Rush'? Well, a lot of it was filmed at Cadwell if you didn't already know. There's an old house just near the pits, and what's odd about it?

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Yep, the windows are painted on! Keep a look out for it in the film, it's funny knowing the tricks they sometimes use in films.

Back to the track action - it became apparent that the key to doing well was to keep things clean. A 10 second penalty for hitting a cone or going off track, a 20 second one for the second infringement, and then exclusion for the third meant you could really lose out big time for being wild! Looks like nearly a dozen people feel foul of this over the course of the day.


It was cold. Really cold. And wet. With no van to hide in, I'd tried to prep by bringing my full waterproofs - including socks! - and a bin bag to store my stuff in, but the wind kept driving rain into places I didn't really want it to be. Purple hands, frozen feet - all part of the fun. Trying to keep the car de-misted was quite a mission, but at least it gave me a chance to dry stuff out.

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With the first layout done and my times remaining pretty consistent throughout all 3 runs (2.31, 2.29, 2.30), it was time for a lunch break while the second layout was set up. This included 'The Mountain', a famous left-right-over crest set of corners which is the definitive Cadwell feature. There must be tons of photos from over the years of bikes mid-air going through here.

Obviously today there were to be no aerobatics, but with the rain it meant some serious tail-waggling going over the crest - much fun, especially in all three of the timed runs which were in the dark!

Various cars had fitted huge LED light bars as permitted by the regs, but I didn't feel it was worth doing for just a couple of runs. With hindsight I probably should have - the late 90s Japanese candles were less than helpful, so the only way I can describe the first dark run is scary. I'm glad I know Cadwell like the back of my hand. I literally cannot remember the last time I had the adrenaline shakes, despite trying to fill my life with stuff like this (plus karting, mountaineering, mountain biking, etc). But yesterday, it was there. What a rush!  ;D

At this point I had truly become engaged with the event, and put out of my mind the niggles of those trying to bend the rules that had been gnawing away at a corner of my mind earlier in the day. I'm an honest person, so it really gets to me when others aren't on a level playing field through unscrupulous bending of the rules.


My first dark lap was a 2:25. You see your time on a board before you get back to the paddock, but with a completely new layout, and it being dark and wet, have no idea if that's good or not! Turns out it was 5th quickest out of the 17 in our class, which I was pretty chuffed with.

Looking at the other times it showed the light bars made a big difference, as my gap to the leaders (who all had them) had increased from around 2-3s a run to more like 8s in the dark. Feeling I had no chance of picking up a plastic pot now, I instead set myself the challenge of simply improving my times for the final two runs.

At times like these I find emptying my mind is the best way to prepare, so I stuck some music on in the car pretty loud and sang along in the queue (thanks for the advice @B.RAD  ;) ).

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Back to the start line. Full beam on. Away we go. I must admit this lap (and the last one) was a bit of a blur - trying to pick out feint white lines diving tarmac from grass, and red and white kerbs in the gloom, then all of a sudden being surprised by bright white strips of reflective material wrapped around the cones in the chicanes. All a bit surreal.

I crossed the line, a clean run, and the board showed 2:21.77. Quite an improvement! I was now up to 4th in class and catching 3rd. One run to go and just over 5s behind. Would I be able to catch him? A single cone-strike would mean a 10 second penalty... for either of us.


Final run. Music louder. Singing louder. A quick chat to say thanks to the start line marshals for their help during what had been a day of terrible weather!

This run was wetter than all the previous ones thanks to a pretty heavy downpour, and again a literal blur of dark grey, green, red, white and orange - resulting in a time of 2:21.61. I'd achieved my recently-set goal of beating my own time, and ended up posting the 3rd quickest time in our class.


The excellent timing system that Javelin use updates in real time, so you can see the times come in online using a web page. The chap running 3rd in the Clio (who it turns out I'd given a lift across the paddock to earlier in the day!) had a decently quick and clean run, so 3rd place was not to be for me, but a smidge over 5s separating us after 6 runs and almost 15 minutes of running time was really cool.

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Overall position? Just squeezed into the top half (30th out of 61 finishers) - Long Live The Bucket!

It had been a day of 'what ifs?'. What if I'd fitted a light bar? What if I'd had fresh Rainsport tyres like everyone else? What if people who should have been in Modified class actually entered the Modified class?

I put that all aside though - the dark runs were so much fun, and I'd managed to turn my head around to having myself as competition rather than worrying about what other people did. That's what it's all about.

When's the next one?  :D

Chilli Girl

Brilliantly written Adam and driven. Really enjoyed reading that, it was almost as if I could've been there. Well done. ;D
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Topdownman

Funny you should mention the self regulating nature of the event plus mountainbiking as this reminded me of racing mountainbikes in the 90's. There was a similar category system (4 I think) but there would always be people who entered a class below where they should have been so they could do well.

Nothing changes eh,but glad you enjoyed it!

(Being wet, cold and with purple extremities also reminds me of mountainbiking!).
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1979scotte

Re the class system.

Sad and pathetic that they'd even want to enter standard if they have ITB and standalone ecu and surely those yokos aren't road legal.
Thats like me turning up at a drag race for stock cars with my rotrex V6. No competition.

And which Jack Reacher are you reading?
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Free Ukraine 🇺🇦

The Arch Bishop

You know, it's really good seeing the Bucket getting used properly and living its best life rather than rotting on my driveway.

Far better it's getting out and seeing the world and some rumble strips instead of staring at the garage door for months on end!

Also shows me that I made the right decision about selling it and also the person I sold it to.

I'm also immensely proud of it. After 125,000 miles and with baggy old (likely original) shocks, it survived a full on weekend of action and got home again.

Got a big old grin on my face!

Nice one Adam - you're doing the Bucket proud!

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