Hass Stage II turbo is here!

Slacey · February 22, 2005, 18:51

Look what UPS brought me today...

Is that an exhaust or a cannon? s:lol: :lol: s:lol: I reckon it may be a little loud s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:

We are installing this weekend, there will be a full update soon...

Anonymous · February 22, 2005, 18:57

s:shock: :shock: s:shock: s:shock: :shock: s:shock: s:shock: :shock: s:shock: s8)

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Awesome piece of kit, I really want mine now too!

Anonymous · February 22, 2005, 19:02

<---- green eyed monster

Anonymous · February 22, 2005, 19:05

Is that it.... s:roll: :roll: s:roll:

Anonymous · February 22, 2005, 19:08

Bet your popular with that lot laid out in your front room s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

Slacey · February 22, 2005, 19:14

Quote from: "mr-s_turbo"Bet your popular with that lot laid out in your front room s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

Not at all, AnnMarie helped me unpack it - I think she was as glad as me to see it finally arrive s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

markiii · February 22, 2005, 19:17

with what that cost I'm not surprised

She probably wanted to make sure what was in there :-) :-) :-)

Anonymous · February 22, 2005, 19:23

What is your plan of action, or what does Hass recommend? In other words what order are you fitting everything?

when i fitted mine i installed the e-manage first and made sure the car still ran in NA then installed the turbo. That way when i had a idle problem when i fitted the turbo i knew it was a turbo install problem not the e-manage.

Hope it all goes well at weekend.

Chris · February 22, 2005, 19:33

slighty OT, and apologies if this has been covered before, but would this kit work with the unichip, or does it have to be the e-manage? I've heard that there is a turbo boost add-on for the unichip...

Slacey · February 22, 2005, 19:37

I think you can run a turbo kit with the Unichip, but in the case of this Hass kit he will only sel it with the Emanage (and soon the Apexi FC).

Anonymous · February 22, 2005, 19:46

OK i'll ready myself for a bashing but the unichip is poo compared to the e-manage on a turbo application. The e-manage can drive the injectors duty direct for adding fuel and not just via altering the A/F map. Also it handles larger injectors rather than having to add an extra injector, which involves more work.

I'll get me coat........... s8)

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Anonymous · February 22, 2005, 19:51

oooohhh

kanujunkie · February 22, 2005, 19:58

Quote from: "Beanie"oooohhh

ya bugger i was going to say that! s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

markiii · February 22, 2005, 20:04

Quote from: "mr-s_turbo"OK i'll ready myself for a bashing but the unichip is poo compared to the e-manage on a turbo application. The e-manage can drive the injectors duty direct for adding fuel and not just via altering the A/F map. Also it handles larger injectors rather than having to add an extra injector, which involves more work.

I'll get me coat........... s8) s8)

I reckon he's right, could always sell your unichip though

Anonymous · February 22, 2005, 20:36

I'll have it

SteveJ · February 22, 2005, 21:08

Quote from: "mr-s_turbo"OK i'll ready myself for a bashing but the unichip is poo compared to the e-manage on a turbo application. The e-manage can drive the injectors duty direct for adding fuel and not just via altering the A/F map. Also it handles larger injectors rather than having to add an extra injector, which involves more work.

I'll get me coat........... s8) s8)

Well Martin's has been running for over 18 months now, and with several seriously punishing track days behind it, it's still as strong as ever so there can't be that much wrong with the unichip. As for fitting the fifth injector, I seem to recall it took Headley a couple of hours to modify the intake manifold and another hour or so to program it. This length of time was comparable to that required to remove and refit the injectors (then remove them again when they leak etc!).

markiii · February 22, 2005, 21:13

all true, but the emanage is still teh more elegant solution.

However as steve rightly pointed out, the unichip is capable you just need a different approach.

Anonymous · February 22, 2005, 21:19

Never said there was anything wrong with the unichip, just said on a turbo application the e-manage copes better, if you have neither then get the e-manage. It takes about 15mins to change the injectors, i fitted the ones Martin sold me, no leaks, ran smooth straight away after correction factor was put into e-manage. Most of all just about anyone can do this, modifying a manifold to add a injector is more specialist, so more dollar!

Anywho this is a topic drift of epic proportion, i see Sean has gone quiet, maybe he's tucking his turbo up in bed. s:D

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MRMike · February 22, 2005, 21:53

Damn that turbo is a LOT bigger than i thought it would be...

Is the towel to protect the carpet or the turbo gubbins? s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

Very tasty peice of kit you have there.

kanujunkie · February 22, 2005, 21:56

Quote from: "MRMike"Is the towel to protect the carpet or the turbo gubbins? s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

or for when Seans enjoyed himself too much over it s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

Slacey · February 23, 2005, 06:24

Now now Stuart!

The towel was to protect the carpet, honest! As I expected from a small workshop that handbuilds most of the stuff, it was a little dirty from manufacture. That's my excuse anyway s:oops: :oops: s:oops:

Tem · February 23, 2005, 06:30

Slacey, how much was that with everything (shipping+taxes)?

Unichip has one serious issue, which makes is sucky for major tuning. It can only alter the injector times +-50%. Which means that if you get properly sized injectors for a turbo, you can't really make them work in the lower rpm/load range anymore.

Other than that, it seems to be doing just fine. And obviously, if you "only" double the injectors and that's big enough for you, then the -50% will cover it. Just be prepared to swap the Unichip out when you want more s8)

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Slacey · February 23, 2005, 06:48

Quote from: "Tem"Slacey, how much was that with everything (shipping+taxes)?

Tem, what I paid is fairly irrelevant as I was given a special price for being their first international customer, so it bears no relation to what it would cost if you bought one now, if you see what I mean s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

Slacey · February 23, 2005, 06:51

Mark asked about the MAF mount specifically, so here's a couple of pics...

Tem · February 23, 2005, 07:00

Quote from: "Slacey"
Quote from: "Tem"Slacey, how much was that with everything (shipping+taxes)?
Tem, what I paid is fairly irrelevant as I was given a special price for being their first international customer, so it bears no relation to what it would cost if you bought one now, if you see what I mean s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

Ok, let me rephrase that; If he charged you the normal price, how much would it be with shipping+taxes? s8)

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