Blue PFL V8 conversion

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8thumpers

January 14, 2018, 00:39 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Bit the bullet and started to do some work on the conversion tonight.
Started by removing the old shocks and fitting the front MeisterR coil overs...

8thumpers

#1
January 14, 2018, 00:44 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Very simple to swap over. I wanted them out of the way and probably less chance of getting damaged if they are on the car!
The brakes will be changed, so I'm not concerned with their poor state.
The rears won't be going on yet, I have to fabricate a hub carrier there to take the audi hubs and all the Toyota suspension pickup points.

1979scotte

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January 14, 2018, 08:57 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
I dare say this is going to be a very interesting thread to follow.
Wishing you the best of luck.
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StuC

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January 14, 2018, 09:08 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Well done for making a start. Getting some smaller wins under the belt should help encourage you.

Have you got a list of jobs?
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s12vea

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January 14, 2018, 09:10 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "StuC"Well done for making a start. Getting some smaller wins under the belt should help encourage you.

Have you got a list of jobs?

I'm guessing a very big list when shoe horning a v8 in a 2 lol
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Another one won't hurt  .....

secla

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January 14, 2018, 09:23 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
What v8 you going for ? 4.2 Audi would be my choice

8thumpers

#6
January 14, 2018, 09:56 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "StuC"Well done for making a start. Getting some smaller wins under the belt should help encourage you.

Have you got a list of jobs?
It's mental at the moment!
Next will be stripping the rear hubs off so I can replicate them for audi hubs...

8thumpers

#7
January 14, 2018, 11:13 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "secla"What v8 you going for ? 4.2 Audi would be my choice
Yes it's a 4.2 ABZ from an A8 mated to an OB1 6 speed from a front drive A5. It's the motor that Paul Woods developed especially for MR2 install. I bought it 4 years ago. The gearbox has about 500 miles on it.

rich_p

#8
January 14, 2018, 11:57 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Very nice!
A thread with V8 in the title is sureto attract attention. I was actually reminded of the crazy MK1 Paul Woods has built. No small task by any stretch.
How is it likely to sit within the body of the MK3? If I recall there was a fair amount of chopping and re-fabricating involved when Paul made his MK1.

Good luck with it! Little bits at a time and you'll soon have a mental V8 Roadster. Could it even be a first?

8thumpers

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January 14, 2018, 13:18 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "rich_p"Very nice!
A thread with V8 in the title is sureto attract attention. I was actually reminded of the crazy MK1 Paul Woods has built. No small task by any stretch.
How is it likely to sit within the body of the MK3? If I recall there was a fair amount of chopping and re-fabricating involved when Paul made his MK1.

Good luck with it! Little bits at a time and you'll soon have a mental V8 Roadster. Could it even be a first?
Cheers! Like you say.. Bit by bit!
The trouble Paul had with the mk1 was the older generation gearbox. The ob1 has the driveshaft output between flywheel and clutch - hence the 550mm overall length from shaft to rear of engine - that should obviate the bulkhead cutting...
Time will tell!

MR TWO

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January 14, 2018, 13:44 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Great to see this all starting to happen,  goodluck with it and I for one will be glued to your thread!
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Escy

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January 16, 2018, 23:52 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
I'll keep an eye on this. On the Porsche Boxsters the driveshafts were angled forwards quite a bit so having the diff output flanges inline with the hubs isn't strictly necessary. I remember someone attempted a V8 swap years back on a Mk3. The biggest hurdle seems to be the rear cross member, the gearbox wants to sit right in the middle.

8thumpers

#12
January 17, 2018, 18:26 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "Escy"I'll keep an eye on this. On the Porsche Boxsters the driveshafts were angled forwards quite a bit so having the diff output flanges inline with the hubs isn't strictly necessary. I remember someone attempted a V8 swap years back on a Mk3. The biggest hurdle seems to be the rear cross member, the gearbox wants to sit right in the middle.
Yes they do angle quite a bit - but every little helps back there!
The cross member is going to scrap  - this guy has sussed it and created a work of art too!
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8thumpers

#13
January 18, 2018, 23:26 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Tonight I made a start on removing the rear mr2 hub. I need to replicate the suspension pickup points and build a carrier for the Audi hub.
Removal of the caliper and disc was straightforward but the hub nut was tight - as expected.

I temp refitted the disc and caliper and then jammed the disc from turning thru the inspection hole in the top of the caliper, with a drift. Then I could lean on the hub nut after freeing the bent tab, and off she popped!

The suspension bolts were a pig but eventually gave in to leverage and penetrating fluid.

Tapping the drive shaft with the nut on the end freed it on the spines but I can't get the  abs sensor out. Looks like that will be sacrificed....

Next job is to figure out how to fabricate the new hub carrier.

8thumpers

#14
January 18, 2018, 23:28 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
The car is up quite high now but I'll have to adjust it numerous times no doubt when removing the engine.

jvanzyl

#15
January 19, 2018, 08:42 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Great photos man- I'm interested to see which Jack points you used? Mine is about to be put up for a long time...

lamcote

#16
January 19, 2018, 09:19 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
That YouTube video of the cross member is a great solution for that project, but will you have space for that big top element of the cross member (shown at 6:38 in the video)? Your engine looks like it takes up all that space.
Silver 2004 MR2 -  Unmodified but very shiny.

8thumpers

#17
January 19, 2018, 11:21 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "jvanzyl"Great photos man- I'm interested to see which Jack points you used? Mine is about to be put up for a long time...
At the front it's on axle stands located on the chassis rail where the suspension bolts up. The rear are oak blocks directly under the cill jacking points. I have also put axle stands along side them too for safety. The oak blocks are at 45 degrees to the side of the car  - that stops it from swaying sideways.

8thumpers

#18
January 19, 2018, 11:23 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "lamcote"That YouTube video of the cross member is a great solution for that project, but will you have space for that big top element of the cross member (shown at 6:38 in the video)? Your engine looks like it takes up all that space.
The engine won't come that far back so it should be ok. I'll remove the oem panel between the rear suspension towers and fabricate something fit for purpose.

8thumpers

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January 19, 2018, 13:31 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Jacking support points

shnazzle

#20
January 19, 2018, 14:12 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
I call dibs on that manifold when it comes out  s:) :) s:)
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jvanzyl

#21
January 19, 2018, 15:30 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
I call second dibs!!!

It is a zero right?

Thanks for posting the pics- I didn't realise you could put a Jack on the front bit there...

loadswine

#22
January 19, 2018, 16:05 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Flipping eck! eagle eyed folks!
Very interesting conversion. Always wanted a V8 roadster, so will be following with interest.
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8thumpers

#23
January 19, 2018, 17:35 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "jvanzyl"I call second dibs!!!

It is a zero right?

Thanks for posting the pics- I didn't realise you could put a Jack on the front bit there...
It's right at the point where the chassis leg is - Don't put one on the suspension arm - it will probably bend it and it's just pressed steel, not box.
Manifold is Toyosport off eBay.
I'll be offering parts when they come out  s:) :) s:)

8thumpers

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January 20, 2018, 20:54 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Before I pull the whole car apart... can anyone tell me if the ABS ecu is independent to the engine ecu?
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