Stage 1 or 2, decisions, decisions...

[Call the midlife!]

Cams, springs, valves, potentially some buckets, free(er) flowing exhaust a standalone ecu for 30ish hp

3.5k? Excluding engine rebuild, call it 500.
4k?

Does that sound about right?

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Well, when you put it like that...


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and less low rpm torque?

Without the standalone possibly.


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[shnazzle]

Cams, springs, valves, potentially some buckets, free(er) flowing exhaust a standalone ecu for 30ish hp

3.5k? Excluding engine rebuild, call it 500.
4k?

Does that sound about right?

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Well, when you put it like that...


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It does make for a very feisty 1zz. And we love the 1zz.
But if 4k is about right, I know I haven't got a chance in hell haha

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[michaelb]

My 2zz conversion has so far cost me about 6k. That includes a very low mileage 2zz engine, gearbox etc. Brand new custom built exhaust system, Stage 2 cams fitted and new standalone ecu. This includes the shipping to NI, installation and mapping

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[michaelb]

Sorry, it also includes brand new subframe, and a set of 17" Buddy Club P1 tyres

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[Call the midlife!]

Cams, springs, valves, potentially some buckets, free(er) flowing exhaust a standalone ecu for 30ish hp

3.5k? Excluding engine rebuild, call it 500.
4k?

Does that sound about right?

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Well, when you put it like that...


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It does make for a very feisty 1zz. And we love the 1zz.
But if 4k is about right, I know I haven't got a chance in hell haha

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I know mate, it's a bit different for me at the moment obviously. And you can't take it with you so I might as well spend it now instead of H blowing it later![emoji38]


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[shnazzle]

Cams, springs, valves, potentially some buckets, free(er) flowing exhaust a standalone ecu for 30ish hp

3.5k? Excluding engine rebuild, call it 500.
4k?

Does that sound about right?

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Well, when you put it like that...


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It does make for a very feisty 1zz. And we love the 1zz.
But if 4k is about right, I know I haven't got a chance in hell haha

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I know mate, it's a bit different for me at the moment obviously. And you can't take it with you so I might as well spend it now instead of H blowing it later![emoji38]


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I'd say follow in Tommy's footsteps and go for it!

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[Call the midlife!]

Cams, springs, valves, potentially some buckets, free(er) flowing exhaust a standalone ecu for 30ish hp

3.5k? Excluding engine rebuild, call it 500.
4k?

Does that sound about right?

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Well, when you put it like that...


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It does make for a very feisty 1zz. And we love the 1zz.
But if 4k is about right, I know I haven't got a chance in hell haha

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I know mate, it's a bit different for me at the moment obviously. And you can't take it with you so I might as well spend it now instead of H blowing it later![emoji38]


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I'd say follow in Tommy's footsteps and go for it!

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Just looking for upgraded valves at the moment over a nice bowl of Oxtail soup..


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[shnazzle]

The valves really were under the assumption that you're going to increase the max rpm to make good use of all the new flow.

If not, stock valves should be fine

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[K T M Rider]

The valves really were under the assumption that you're going to increase the max rpm to make good use of all the new flow.

If not, stock valves should be fine

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Maybe spend that money on 12:1 pistons 

Either way a very impressive level of wallet emptying and a tuned 1ZZ is the way I'd go 

[1979scotte]

K20 for me if you want to stay NA

[Call the midlife!]

The valves really were under the assumption that you're going to increase the max rpm to make good use of all the new flow.

If not, stock valves should be fine

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Taken under advisement from yourself and others knowledgeable in the field it's been suggested uprated valves should be a prerequisite for stage 2 cams, due to experiences of the tips breaking off on standard valves.
And as I'm already committed to a good part of the build and don't want to replace the heart of the car then I need to find some valves as well now![emoji23]


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[shnazzle]

Good man.
Also,consider a stronger flywheel and clutch for themz extra revvz

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[Call the midlife!]

Good man.
Also,consider a stronger flywheel and clutch for themz extra revvz

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Hmmm.. to quote Papa Lazarou "this is just a saga now"... [emoji23]


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[shnazzle]

Good man.
Also,consider a stronger flywheel and clutch for themz extra revvz

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Hmmm.. to quote Papa Lazarou "this is just a saga now"... [emoji23]


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I said consider, not absolutely do
Can always be done later

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[Call the midlife!]

Good man.
Also,consider a stronger flywheel and clutch for themz extra revvz

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Hmmm.. to quote Papa Lazarou "this is just a saga now"... [emoji23]


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I said consider, not absolutely do
Can always be done later

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Well following the same ethos as the rest of the proposal, while it's out and we're doing the work it makes sense to only do it the once!
Yet more research... or just look at page 41 of Tommyzoom's!


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[tomaky]

What is the ultimate goal here?
Are you looking long term to build an extreme NA 1zz like Bernie or Tommyzoom?
Or are you just looking for a bit more poke?

Was taking my lead from Bernie's in the first instance, falling short of Tommyzoom. Essentially wanting to put some power back to offset the extra weight I've added [emoji23]


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Be easier to go for a run

Doh I'm about 49 posts behind haha

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[Call the midlife!]

What is the ultimate goal here?
Are you looking long term to build an extreme NA 1zz like Bernie or Tommyzoom?
Or are you just looking for a bit more poke?

Was taking my lead from Bernie's in the first instance, falling short of Tommyzoom. Essentially wanting to put some power back to offset the extra weight I've added [emoji23]


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Be easier to go for a run

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A gentleman never runs, it's unseemly... (especially with my knees...)


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[michaelb]

My conversion and installation is nearly complete. I'm happy to pass on the outcome in a few days time mate. Should be able to post the dyno logs etc

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[Call the midlife!]

My conversion and installation is nearly complete. I'm happy to pass on the outcome in a few days time mate. Should be able to post the dyno logs etc

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Appreciated mate but keep in mind I'm 1zz so your dyno results won't really reflect possible results for my proposed build.


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[michaelb]

Oh forgot mate. Well you'll get an idea of what stage 2 cams will do with a standalone ecu.

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[m1tch]

If running NA swap to a 2zz, a 2zz as stock will easily outflow a modified 1zz in NA form, another option would be to run with the stock 1zz, run a standalone ECU, few bolt on breathing mods such as intake and exhaust and then just reduce the weight a bit.

BTW with my Apexi I revved my stock 1zz to 7k RPM but wouldn't go any higher.

[1979scotte]

If running NA swap to a 2zz, a 2zz as stock will easily outflow a modified 1zz in NA form, another option would be to run with the stock 1zz, run a standalone ECU, few bolt on breathing mods such as intake and exhaust and then just reduce the weight a bit.

BTW with my Apexi I revved my stock 1zz to 7k RPM but wouldn't go any higher.

The OP is well aware of this but it's the road less traveled and something that can be a father and son activity.

[Call the midlife!]

If running NA swap to a 2zz, a 2zz as stock will easily outflow a modified 1zz in NA form, another option would be to run with the stock 1zz, run a standalone ECU, few bolt on breathing mods such as intake and exhaust and then just reduce the weight a bit.

BTW with my Apexi I revved my stock 1zz to 7k RPM but wouldn't go any higher.

The OP is well aware of this but it's the road less traveled and something that can be a father and son activity.

That it be Scotte, that it be! Cheers for that.
Mitch, due respect to all the 2zzers out there it's just not somewhere I want to be, not revving the nuts off all the time just to get it singing and dancing.


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[delhusband]

it's just not somewhere I want to be, not revving the nuts off all the time just to get it singing and dancing.

Sorry. i'll go away now 

[Call the midlife!]

it's just not somewhere I want to be, not revving the nuts off all the time just to get it singing and dancing.

Sorry. i'll go away now 

You've lost me now??
By the way, yours sounded lovely growling past me the other weekend when you shot off in search of Pat and The Wife!


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