Bracing Recommendations?

Started by chrismscotland, October 21, 2018, 23:24

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Carolyn

David and I are currently working on a front strut brace that comes close to the rigidity of the TRD (which is impossible to improve upon).

If there's interest we'll make a batch.  The first two are going on my Blue car and a certain Wifey is getting the second.

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jvanzyl

Quote from: Carolyn on June  6, 2019, 14:12
David and I are currently working on a front strut brace that comes close to the rigidity of the TRD (which is impossible to improve upon).

If there's interest we'll make a batch.  The first two are going on my Blue car and a certain Wifey is getting the second.

Sounds interesting.... I'd say there is a market for TRD reproduction stuff! And at least you've got a bunch of originals to copy from!

I'm hoping/assuming they'll be made out of aluminium? Or are we going for magnesium? 8)
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Carolyn

Quote from: jvanzyl on June  6, 2019, 14:18
Quote from: Carolyn on June  6, 2019, 14:12
David and I are currently working on a front strut brace that comes close to the rigidity of the TRD (which is impossible to improve upon).

If there's interest we'll make a batch.  The first two are going on my Blue car and a certain Wifey is getting the second.

Sounds interesting.... I'd say there is a market for TRD reproduction stuff! And at least you've got a bunch of originals to copy from!

I'm hoping/assuming they'll be made out of aluminium? Or are we going for magnesium? 8)

They pretty much have to be steel.   Can't weld steel to ally and the plates that bolt onto the tops of the struts can't be very thick, because of the available tread length.  Ally would have to be so thick it won't work.  This is why we see these bolt-together abortions with ally cross bars and steel plates.

I'll start a thread....
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tricky1138

Definitely interested but spent far too much last month and this month!

Do you have any idea of timescales and or cost yet?

Also are these designed to work with the frunk lid? I know you cable tied yours!
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Quote from: Carolyn on June  6, 2019, 14:12
David and I are currently working on a front strut brace that comes close to the rigidity of the TRD (which is impossible to improve upon).

If there's interest we'll make a batch.  The first two are going on my Blue car and a certain Wifey is getting the second.

I'm getting the third one then.
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Snelbaard

Quote from: jvanzyl on June  6, 2019, 09:47
I've heard good things about barbarian bracing... Plus it's aluminium.

Go for their front and mid under braces.
Then put an ultra racing front strut brace on (only get the back if you've got cash to burn?

And then to top it all off get a corky breastplate copy... Sorted.

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The Barbarian is on my wish list. Then I'll just fab up a Tom's rear under brace replica and I'll be sorted.
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FredyCro

Im in the market for lower braces (front and mid) and atm looking into barbarian racing and megillian supplier options. One is aluminum other steel, one is 115 gbp other 140+, for one Ive herd nothing negative for Megillian read on this forum ona a few ocxasions that delivery time can be problematical ad long.

My concerns are, one delivery time and two is the aluminum option strong enough to do a good job at reducing chassis flex under great load i.e. Track use? Im fond of lower Alu weight but not if it does not do its job properly.

Any thoughts?
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Joesson

Quote from: FredyCro on August 18, 2020, 13:30Im in the market for lower braces (front and mid) and atm looking into barbarian racing and megillian supplier options. One is aluminum other steel, one is 115 gbp other 140+, for one Ive herd nothing negative for Megillian read on this forum ona a few ocxasions that delivery time can be problematical ad long.

My concerns are, one delivery time and two is the aluminum option strong enough to do a good job at reducing chassis flex under great load i.e. Track use? Im fond of lower Alu weight but not if it does not do its job properly.

Any thoughts?

Quote from: FredyCro on August 18, 2020, 13:30Im in the market for lower braces (front and mid) and atm looking into barbarian racing and megillian supplier options. One is aluminum other steel, one is 115 gbp other 140+, for one Ive herd nothing negative for Megillian read on this forum ona a few ocxasions that delivery time can be problematical ad long.

My concerns are, one delivery time and two is the aluminum option strong enough to do a good job at reducing chassis flex under great load i.e. Track use? Im fond of lower Alu weight but not if it does not do its job properly.

Any thoughts?


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FredyCro

Quote from: Joesson on August 18, 2020, 14:12
Quote from: FredyCro on August 18, 2020, 13:30Im in the market for lower braces (front and mid) and atm looking into barbarian racing and megillian supplier options. One is aluminum other steel, one is 115 gbp other 140+, for one Ive herd nothing negative for Megillian read on this forum ona a few ocxasions that delivery time can be problematical ad long.

My concerns are, one delivery time and two is the aluminum option strong enough to do a good job at reducing chassis flex under great load i.e. Track use? Im fond of lower Alu weight but not if it does not do its job properly.

Any thoughts?

Quote from: FredyCro on August 18, 2020, 13:30Im in the market for lower braces (front and mid) and atm looking into barbarian racing and megillian supplier options. One is aluminum other steel, one is 115 gbp other 140+, for one Ive herd nothing negative for Megillian read on this forum ona a few ocxasions that delivery time can be problematical ad long.

My concerns are, one delivery time and two is the aluminum option strong enough to do a good job at reducing chassis flex under great load i.e. Track use? Im fond of lower Alu weight but not if it does not do its job properly.

Any thoughts?


Have a look on here at Market Place / Commercial Sales and see what @Snelbaard has on offer.

arent those like 250 gbp a piece?

Too steep imho when compared to two early mentioned options
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Petrus

Quote from: FredyCro on August 18, 2020, 14:44arent those like 250 gbp a piece?

Too steep imho when compared to two early mentioned options

He has séveral brace options.

The large bottom brace is priced as Carolyn should have and will if she makes a second batch.

For the rest it is simply how stiff you want the car and how much you want that.

The vfm set is front strut brace, Snelbaards mid brace and DEV´s door spacers.


FredyCro

Quote from: Petrus on August 18, 2020, 15:58
Quote from: FredyCro on August 18, 2020, 14:44arent those like 250 gbp a piece?

Too steep imho when compared to two early mentioned options

He has séveral brace options.

The large bottom brace is priced as Carolyn should have and will if she makes a second batch.

For the rest it is simply how stiff you want the car and how much you want that.

The vfm set is front strut brace, Snelbaards mid brace and DEV´s door spacers.



The stiffest chassis vise!

Vfm, dev etc. Those are forum nicknames? I still dont have access to that part if the forum...
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househead

Quote from: FredyCro on August 18, 2020, 16:41The stiffest chassis vise!

Vfm, dev etc. Those are forum nicknames? I still dont have access to that part if the forum...


Dev is a user on here that sells a bunch of MR2 accessories, one of which is a set of door spacer / bushes that are designed to increase rigidity similar to the TRD door stabilisers but at a fraction of the cost.

Here are the TRD ones...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toyota-MR2-MR-S-Roadster-Spyder-ZZW30-TRD-Door-Stabilizer-TRD-Genuine-OEM-Parts-/181352629492

As for VFM, I'm going to take a wild guess that it's Very First Modification, although I've never seen it before, and I think @Petrus just made it up :)
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Petrus

Quote from: househead on August 18, 2020, 16:47As for VFM, I'm going to take a wild guess that it's Very First Modification, although I've never seen it before, and I think @Petrus just made it up :)

Bwahahahahah

@FredyCro ;  value for money

Concerning stiffness; if you are serious, then the large brace is a must. Also properly bolting down a hartop (again Snelbaard is your source) is the way to make a large difference. It basically converts the open tub in a solid hard top.


FredyCro

Quote from: Petrus on August 18, 2020, 16:58
Quote from: househead on August 18, 2020, 16:47As for VFM, I'm going to take a wild guess that it's Very First Modification, although I've never seen it before, and I think @Petrus just made it up :)

Bwahahahahah

@FredyCro ;  value for money

Concerning stiffness; if you are serious, then the large brace is a must. Also properly bolting down a hartop (again Snelbaard is your source) is the way to make a large difference. It basically converts the open tub in a solid hard top.



All tjat you wrote sounds good to me. I do not have access to that part of the forum, if mentioned members read this post please feel free to send me om with your offerings and Ill order if it makes sense. I won't be making any decisions before the following week when I meet my chief mechanic and decide on parts and time line.
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Jay

Random spot on the auctions this morning, fair bit of work has gone into them but that's some price tag:

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/s1010238788

Also, the typo on the plates is a pure bonus!

moca2cv

On the subject of bracing... anyone been in touch with Steve at Megillian recently? Haven't been able to get a response out of him...

Carolyn

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Not hearing from Steve is standard service, I'm afraid.  A lot of members have been let down by him.

On the bright side, our front strut brace (super stiff) is available right now. We are just finishing producing a batch of six, two of which are spoken for. This could be the very last time we make these.
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shnazzle

Steve has shut down his "consumer" side. He only does large  builds now and his standard of service is great. Basically he wasn't equipped to deal with the demands at the time so he just shut that side down.
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moca2cv

Thanks both. That's what I understood but I am still owed a front lower brace... from Jan 2020... the chase continues.

shnazzle

Quote from: moca2cv on February  8, 2022, 19:20Thanks both. That's what I understood but I am still owed a front lower brace... from Jan 2020... the chase continues.
Maybe @Snelbaard has something?

To go nicely with Carolyn's front top brace :)
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moca2cv

Quote from: shnazzle on February  8, 2022, 19:26
Quote from: moca2cv on February  8, 2022, 19:20Thanks both. That's what I understood but I am still owed a front lower brace... from Jan 2020... the chase continues.
Maybe @Snelbaard has something?

To go nicely with Carolyn's front top brace :)
It is a nice front top brace, I have one :)
I have a bunch of Snelbaard stuff too, but since I've already paid for the Megillian I'm loath to buy another just yet!

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bobbe

Quote from: Carolyn on February  8, 2022, 18:01On the bright side, our front strut brace (super stiff) is available right now. We are just finishing producing a batch of six, two of which are spoken for. This could be the very last time we make these.


How much does your brace go for? I'm in the market for a front strut brace and looking at the Ultra Racing one, but I could be tempted


On the Ultra racing brace, Ultra Racing themselves sell a brace that looks like this (straight across):

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Others sell a brace that looks like this (arched):

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Does anyone know if there is any real difference between the two? Are they both legit Ultra Racing braces, or is one a knock off? I assume the arched one allows you to retain the lid for the frunk?

Carolyn

The flatter one will be more rigid.
Our strut brace (very stiff):

https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?topic=71911.0
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bobbe

Thanks. I'm getting "The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you" when I follow that link