MOT failure

[Ardent]

This and previous posts have got me thinking. Do I? Do I not?

That, and in a chilligirl thread sidetrack manner, I would really like a smaller steering wheel.

I am aware that @Petrus has removed the steering pump and fitted an aftermarket steering wheel. The diameter of the wheel I know not. He may be able to advise on the additional steering effort with his particular arrangement.
I do recall driving a 60's Anglia, in period, with a very small steering wheel and found that not to my liking.

Indeed he has.
Have done some research of late, and stepped  back. As much as I like the look of a wooden wheel, that is secondary to it being smalller. A stock Mr T wheel would be fine if smaller. The problem (for me) seems to be, to go smaller, it results in moving closer. Not what I want.
I am happy to forgo the exploding bag in the face. When you sit as close to the wheel as I do. An airbag takes on a risk of it's own.
An inter-changeable Mr T wheel, but smaller, would be great.

The PAS delete comes a bit further down the line. But as things stand.
If a long limbed 60+ Dutch man can turn the his non PAS steering wheel.
I will wager my Short limbed, English, Biceps, triceps, deltoids, pectorals, trapezius and abdominals will be up to the job.

[1979scotte]

This and previous posts have got me thinking. Do I? Do I not?

That, and in a chilligirl thread sidetrack manner, I would really like a smaller steering wheel.

I am aware that @Petrus has removed the steering pump and fitted an aftermarket steering wheel. The diameter of the wheel I know not. He may be able to advise on the additional steering effort with his particular arrangement.
I do recall driving a 60's Anglia, in period, with a very small steering wheel and found that not to my liking.

Indeed he has.
Have done some research of late, and stepped  back. As much as I like the look of a wooden wheel, that is secondary to it being smalller. A stock Mr T wheel would be fine if smaller. The problem (for me) seems to be, to go smaller, it results in moving closer. Not what I want.
I am happy to forgo the exploding bag in the face. When you sit as close to the wheel as I do. An airbag takes on a risk of it's own.
An inter-changeable Mr T wheel, but smaller, would be great.

The PAS delete comes a bit further down the line. But as things stand.
If a long limbed 60+ Dutch man can turn the his non PAS steering wheel.
I will wager my Short limbed, English, Biceps, triceps, deltoids, pectorals, trapezius and abdominals will be up to the job.

I have no doubt you have ample strength for the task.

[Petrus]

My son son just turned 19 and he has learned to drive in the Volvo 340 he bought himself; no power steering ;-)

On the MR2 though it is a bit of a running gag with my gfs that mine has an afficient anti theft feature; no  power steering.
The reduction on the steering box is for strong assistence and deleting that makes for quite a difference which from standstill is like a steering lock.
Once you get the trick; to have the wheel rolling even the slightest bit it is quite ok. For old timers and throw backs :-)
No, seriously, it is like DEv observes an improvement but when parking real heavy.

The stering wheel I fitted is 10mm lárger than OEM and has an ever so slightly thinner wooden rim.

[Carolyn]

As a not-so-strong skinny female, I like the power steering very much. I can see the attraction of deleting it, but it's not an option for me.  (I have a spare, which I've refurbished, sitting on the shelf for when 'that day' comes.

[Ardent]

Once you get the trick; to have the wheel rolling even the slightest bit it is quite ok.

I apply that even with PAS. In any vehicle.

[Joesson]

Once you get the trick; to have the wheel rolling even the slightest bit it is quite ok.

I apply that even with PAS. In any vehicle.

At Heathrow one time waiting to collect my boss I got into conversation with a RR chauffeur. RR 's are often driven by chauffeur's because if you leave one parked just anywhere bits are removed and what is left is vandalised. He also spoke of the RR chauffeur driving course where they teach that the wheels must be rolling before the steering wheel is turned. While the PAS is "adequate" for the task the RR is a heavy vehicle and the tyres are costly and parking one incorrectly can scrub the treads off the tyres and they ain't cheap!

[Topdownman]

Many years ago I had a consul granada V6 (no power steering) to which I fitted a 12" wheel. Quite a workout.

Wouldnt dream of doing that these days!

[Petrus]

Once you get the trick; to have the wheel rolling even the slightest bit it is quite ok.

I apply that even with PAS. In any vehicle.

Better for the rubber and all the parts involved. Again a thing of old timers and throw backs ;-)
Same thing not clonking the power steering to the stop when manouvring.

Point is that the p.a.s. delete is imo a sérious upgrade for the Spyder if your priority is feeling through the twisties. For commuting and city use best not.

[Petrus]

This and previous posts have got me thinking. Do I? Don't I?

That, and in a chilligirl thread sidetrack manner, I would really like a smaller steering wheel.

It involves deleting the explosive bag(s).

As a bonus it míght be an opportunity to adjust the hight of the steering  to suit individual preference/measure.

I have the Sparco San Remo grip shape 25/25 mm., diameter 355 mm. on a Momo collapseble boss.

Word of caution; be very moderate in going smaller. Even 20 mm. feels markedly smaller. If I´d kept the p.a.s. I would have gone 330 mm., not too thick.
Oh and best stay away from QD bosses but if you múst it is paramount that you test assemble the set at the buyers to MEASURE the combined hight.

[scm2004red]

On the subject of the correct p/s fluid, Oilman posting for Opie Oils on here back in 2012 posted as follows:-

I've checked all our databases and it seems that your cars specifically need the Toyota stuff. They don't say why it needs the Toyota stuff, but I can't recommned anything else.

Cheers

Tim

[Dev]

Once you get the trick; to have the wheel rolling even the slightest bit it is quite ok.

I apply that even with PAS. In any vehicle.

Better for the rubber and all the parts involved. Again a thing of old timers and throw backs ;-)
Same thing not clonking the power steering to the stop when manouvring.

Point is that the p.a.s. delete is imo a sérious upgrade for the Spyder if your priority is feeling through the twisties. For commuting and city use best not.

 Like all manual rack cars you need just a light amount of movement to turn the wheel and it only comes into play when parking in a tight spot. Once you get use it, it becomes second nature that you don't realize you are conscious of it.
 Most serious cars of an era gone by were manual rack and it was no big deal, Both men and women just got use to it and the most serious enthusiasts prefer it given the option  because of the raw connection. I believe Enzo himself didn't want sissy glamor boys driving his cars because they complained that it was too hard to drive but the company eventually added all of those comforts to appeal to a larger audience. 
  I understand why people love the drive of these vintage cars and even the manufactures understand this as they have put in reduction gears for the electric racks to try and have it both ways but its still not the same feel.
 If you keep your car long enough you will eventually have this option and only then you will understand how over boosted the PS is in this car.

 

[Ardent]

Word of caution; be very moderate in going smaller. Even 20 mm. feels markedly smaller. If I´d kept the p.a.s. I would have gone 330 mm., not too thick.
Oh and best stay away from QD bosses but if you múst it is paramount that you test assemble the set at the buyers to MEASURE the combined hight.

20mm would be nice.
Just the whole boss phaff thing that puts me off. I would be content if everything else remained in the same plane. Just a smaller diameter.

[Newbie57]

Fluid changed now. Used Ravenol. It's much cleaner but not totally clear. Used about 1.5 litre.

[Newbie57]

MOT on Wednesday. 😀

[Newbie57]

Mot passed. 👍
VW CC clutch hydraulics gone now and dual mass flywheel on bottom tolerance. 😩