Brake pads?

[Carolyn]

Hi all,

I've had a set of new front discs in stock for some time.  They are good quality standard type discs -no holes or grooves, which is how I like them for the road.

I'm putting this query in this section, rather than 'Performance related', 'cos my MR s is not a track car and will probably never go anywhere near a track.

What I'm after is good, positive , yet progressive, braking, suitable for 'spirited' driving but not needing a bunch of heat to get them switched on.

I know it's asking for trouble asking a bunch of blokes for opinions.

This thread could go on awhile!

Thanks in advance.

[Joesson]

@Carolyn
I believe one of our Members is in the business of brake pads and so may be able to offer some inside info.
The Member maybe @Bossworld but it may not be!

[shnazzle]

They get a lot of hate but I really like the bite of the EBC yellows. Maybe they're not great for track but on road/fast road I've found them much better than Pagid, mtec, mintex or brembo.
Not cheap but they're not stupid money either.

.. If you can live with the brake dust... Which is other-worldly.

[shnazzle]

@Carolyn
I believe one of our Members is in the business of brake pads and so may be able to offer some inside info.
The Member maybe @Bossworld but it may not be!

@tommyzoom99

[Gaz mr-s]

@Carolyn
I believe one of our Members is in the business of brake pads and so may be able to offer some inside info.
@tommyzoom99

Then we have at least 2, - I know of someone else who hands-on makes them.  He can contribute if he wishes.

[Iain]

They get a lot of hate but I really like the bite of the EBC yellows. Maybe they're not great for track but on road/fast road I've found them much better than Pagid, mtec, mintex or brembo.
Not cheap but they're not stupid money either.

.. If you can live with the brake dust... Which is other-worldly.

Got yellows on mine and had no problems, work straight from cold and i had no issues on track either.

Totally agree about the brake dust, theres alot!

[Bossworld]

@Carolyn
I believe one of our Members is in the business of brake pads and so may be able to offer some inside info.
The Member maybe @Bossworld but it may not be!

Not me, I work in Training, but I absolutely love Brembo pads and they're not expensive.

Had Brembo front pads and Borg and Beck discs all around on my MR2 and they had superb bite. Have just bought the same combo for the Golf for circa £140 all around.



Appreciate the juxtaposition in my combination based on that info graphic, but there's a marked difference between those listed brands and the real cheap crap like Comline and Quinton Hazel.

[Topdownman]

First time I changed mine, I went for standard EBC pads and plain discs and was very happy. Second time, I went for the much more expensive EBC yellowstuff pads with plain discs and I was very happy!

The yellowstuf pads come with a coating on that means that rather than having to bed them in, they feel phenomenal on the first drive. I put them on the 86 too and they were better than the previous ones on there too.

Never noticed any fade with any car I have owned (I dont like to brake!) and I would say they are worth trying to see what you think. There were about double the price of the standard EBC pads from memory.

[shnazzle]

One thing I will say on EBCs is to expect squeal,and it can last a good few hundred miles. But it has always gone away for me. 3rd set now and each time the same

[Carolyn]

Anyone tried Greenstuff?

[1979scotte]

Anyone tried Greenstuff?

Not as good as yellow.
I think I would rather have Brembo or paggid than green.

Buy the yellow if you don't like them I'll have them.

[Gaz mr-s]

Anyone tried Greenstuff?

Not as good as yellow.
I think I would rather have Brembo or paggid than green.

Buy the yellow if you don't like them I'll have them.

Agree re green. I didn't like them on an Mx5.  I don't think I've  ever seen anybody praise them.

The Yellows have bite.

If you do consider Yellow Carolyn, wait for a 15 or 20% off on ebay, unless someone knows a cheaper source.

However it might be worth a read of newbie Adam Read's posts.  I think I saw him mentioning Apec being good enough for track use.....

[tets]

I've bought yellowstuff for the hillclimb car - mainly because they work from cold but I also bought standard new discs as opposed to the scored and / or drilled type - 100% pad on disc seems better in my tiny mind than disc, hole, score, disc, hole, score....... on these lightweight cars

[1979scotte]

I've bought yellowstuff for the hillclimb car - mainly because they work from cold but I also bought standard new discs as opposed to the scored and / or drilled type - 100% pad on disc seems better in my tiny mind than disc, hole, score, disc, hole, score....... on these lightweight cars

I prefer solid discs grooved drilled etc too noisy and more dusty imho.

[Iain]

Anyone tried Greenstuff?

Not as good as yellow.
I think I would rather have Brembo or paggid than green.

Buy the yellow if you don't like them I'll have them.

Agree re green. I didn't like them on an Mx5.  I don't think I've  ever seen anybody praise them.

The Yellows have bite.

If you do consider Yellow Carolyn, wait for a 15 or 20% off on ebay, unless someone knows a cheaper source.

However it might be worth a read of newbie Adam Read's posts.  I think I saw him mentioning Apec being good enough for track use.....

Second that on the greens, not sure what exactly is wrong with them but i also have never seen much or any praise for them.

[JB21]

EBC bluestuff are a bargain at £70 for fronts, much better than yellows, but in all honesty a set of OE Pagid pads would do the job for your needs.

[Gaz mr-s]

EBC bluestuff are a bargain at £70 for fronts, much better than yellows, but in all honesty a set of OE Pagid pads would do the job for your needs.

Last year I paid under £47 for Yellows

[Zxrob]

EBC bluestuff are a bargain at £70 for fronts, much better than yellows, but in all honesty a set of OE Pagid pads would do the job for your needs.

I have Pagid discs and pads and they work fine for spirited road driving

Rob

[AdamR28]

I expect this will be ignored like on every forum I mention it, but I'll say it anyway... Try some Apec.

No, really. I've found them better than EBC Yellows and Mintex 1144s (have also used both) at less than half the price. Had some EBC Greens and they were awful, fell off the backings. Yellows don't work any better than a good road pad, and wear very fast once you get them above 600 degrees.

Have won sprint and 12 hour endurance races on the Apec pads (Mk1 MX5), done loads of track days, but still fit them to all my road cars too as they work from cold, last well, have good feel, don't squeal, are R90 approved, and very cheap. A little bit dusty but no worse than 'performance' pads.

Other pads used: Ferodo DS2500, 1.11s, DS.Uno, Carbone Lorraine RC5, RC6, Mintex 1155, Wilwood Poly A - still keep fitting the Apecs.

[Gaz mr-s]

I expect this will be ignored like on every forum I mention it, but I'll say it anyway... Try some Apec.

No, really. Better than EBC Yellows and Mintex 1144s at less than half the price.

Have won 12 hour endurance races on these pads, done loads of track days, they work from cold, last pretty well, good feel, don't squeal, R90 approved, very cheap. A little bit dusty but no worse than 'performance' pads.

Too late for me since I have 2 sets of Yellows, but is there a model no' for them @AdamR28

[Ardent]

Not sure sure if I'm not driving hard enough.
But I'm happy as Larry with stock pagid discs n pads.
I press the middle pedal and I stop.
Just a B road boy, not a track monster.

[Gaz mr-s]

I expect this will be ignored like on every forum I mention it, but I'll say it anyway... Try some Apec.

 A little bit dusty but no worse than 'performance' pads.

How dusty in comparison to Yellows?

[Dev]

Not sure sure if I'm not driving hard enough.
But I'm happy as Larry with stock pagid discs n pads.
I press the middle pedal and I stop.
Just a B road boy, not a track monster.

 I also like the stock pads and blank rotors when I had it this way. They give you great modulation for the street with minimum dust.  The dust from some of the more exotic pads is highly corrosive to the finish on the wheels. I used the TRD pads once and didn't like them because they had too much bite that it would go from 60% to full ABS lock up.
Now that I run a four piston calipers up front I use a low dust street pad that feels great like the stock pads but with better feel through the range without tripping abruptly into ABS.

[1979scotte]

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[1979scotte]

Full set delivered from eBay under £50