Bad handling car or a scared driver...Im not sure!

[Mark A]

I agree, sorry I meant put some tyres on the FL alloy wheels.

[pistol pete]

Nice,

Sounds ideal

Just drop me a message when you want

[almitch1]

Hi Everyone,

A little update... My car is in the garage getting 4 new tyres fitted, i went with Toyo's in the end.

I asked them to do the 4 wheel tracking so that now all is shape, however the guy said that the front was fine no issues but with the back they only just managed to get it back between the tollerances due the arm being seized. Is it worth replacing these items or should they be ok as they are?

Thanks

[Dev]

Hi Everyone,

A little update... My car is in the garage getting 4 new tyres fitted, i went with Toyo's in the end.

I asked them to do the 4 wheel tracking so that now all is shape, however the guy said that the front was fine no issues but with the back they only just managed to get it back between the tollerances due the arm being seized. Is it worth replacing these items or should they be ok as they are?

Thanks

That is a very odd way to put it.  Its either in spec or out of spec.  Its hard to imagine that the adjustment is frozen as its just an eccentric bolt unless its rusted shut. 
 I would replace it if that is the case because rear toe out of alignment will make the car tail happy. 

 If you have a copy of the alignment sheet you should post the numbers.

[JB21]

Eccentric bolts are very common to seize on any car. I've had plenty seize solid, and some seize partly, where I could only get half a mm or so adjustment. With the part seized items, sometimes they can be saved with lots of penetrating fluid over a few days, weeks even.

My advice is just spray them up with a decent penetrating fluid, and leave it as is. Whats the point now changing them, where you'll need to pay for alignment again. Might as well do it all in one next you need alignment if they're still seized.

[Petrus]

My advice is just spray them up with a decent penetrating fluid, and leave it as is. Whats the point now changing them, where you'll need to pay for alignment again. Might as well do it all in one next you need alignment if they're still seized.

Ditto.
They are spec now so all ok.

The eccentric bolt is not a moving item in the suspension. It only moves the mount and the movement of the arm is rubber flex of the ´silent block´ inside that.

Happy driving!!

Back to your original worry; forget about the ´tail happy´ and ´snap oversteer´. Yout FL is set up on the safe side by the factory. I have an PFL which I have set up to oversteer a lot more and even then I find it neutral and needing an insenstive wollop of lod pedal to get the tail out.
Also better tyres will give you plénty of warning ánd plenty enough fun margin.
Dó rub those new tyre properly in during aquiet moment on the nearest industrial estate. Some hard, hárd brakings first to get some heat in them and ENJOY!!!!

[1979scotte]

Hi Everyone,

A little update... My car is in the garage getting 4 new tyres fitted, i went with Toyo's in the end.

I asked them to do the 4 wheel tracking so that now all is shape, however the guy said that the front was fine no issues but with the back they only just managed to get it back between the tollerances due the arm being seized. Is it worth replacing these items or should they be ok as they are?

Thanks

That is a very odd way to put it.  Its either in spec or out of spec.  Its hard to imagine that the adjustment is frozen as its just an eccentric bolt unless its rusted shut. 
 I would replace it if that is the case because rear toe out of alignment will make the car tail happy. 

 If you have a copy of the alignment sheet you should post the numbers.

It's that UK weather and salt again @Dev very common over here I've had some very reputable alignment shops who haven't been able to sort out the rear.
In fact sometimes you need to bin the subframe to sort it although this is very rare.

[Mark A]

More good news, hopefully it will feel safer and more planted on the tarmac rather than wanting to spit you into every ditch. Don't forget to let the tyres scrub in a little before it will be at its best. The parts described as giving you the alignment problems should be soaked in WD40 type stuff and eventually replaced with either new or good condition second hand items, Dick Sloane will have some I'm sure. Remember it's only the nuts that undo and tap the bolts out, may be change the rear arms while you've got the eccentric bolts off but may be hold off for a couple of months before tackling that job

[almitch1]

OMG... So i have collected my car from he garage this morning and taken it for a spin.. I can't believe the difference new and "proper" rubber can make to the  way the car feels.

I've fallen in love!!

[shnazzle]

OMG... So i have collected my car from he garage this morning and taken it for a spin.. I can't believe the difference new and "proper" rubber can make to the  way the car feels.

I've fallen in love!!

Some people really give us a hard time and fight this suggestion.

To be fair, the MR2 is particularly sensitive to tyres. It's just such a finely balanced little thing.
Can't be compared in any way to a big front wheel drive car.

Glad you love it

[almitch1]

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[1979scotte]

OMG... So i have collected my car from he garage this morning and taken it for a spin.. I can't believe the difference new and "proper" rubber can make to the  way the car feels.

I've fallen in love!!

I remember my first one and how good it felt on old yoko 43.
It then felt better on toyo t1r.
And Jesus does if feel good on AD08R.

[Petrus]

And Jesus does if feel good on AD08R.

Só predictable with a wíííde traction hump; even when you are on the other side it does not dróp off.

[Ardent]

OMG... So i have collected my car from he garage this morning and taken it for a spin.. I can't believe the difference new and "proper" rubber can make to the  way the car feels.

I've fallen in love!!

Boom!
Another chalk mark on the board for matching tyres.

Reading that, made my day. Welcome to the club.

Edit
Now get out there, with the lid DOWN and enjoy.

[p5ycho]

Hi Everyone,

A little update... My car is in the garage getting 4 new tyres fitted, i went with Toyo's in the end.

I asked them to do the 4 wheel tracking so that now all is shape, however the guy said that the front was fine no issues but with the back they only just managed to get it back between the tollerances due the arm being seized. Is it worth replacing these items or should they be ok as they are?

Thanks

That is a very odd way to put it.  Its either in spec or out of spec.  Its hard to imagine that the adjustment is frozen as its just an eccentric bolt unless its rusted shut. 
 I would replace it if that is the case because rear toe out of alignment will make the car tail happy. 

 If you have a copy of the alignment sheet you should post the numbers.

It's that UK weather and salt again @Dev very common over here I've had some very reputable alignment shops who haven't been able to sort out the rear.
In fact sometimes you need to bin the subframe to sort it although this is very rare.

Had to write off my subframe a month ago because of this... I had major trouble getting the arm out of the subframe. Actually, the arm is on the bench with the bolt still in it. I used an angle grinder to rip apart both bolt and subframe to recover the arm. The bolt and bushing will probably come out of the arm in one piece as they're completely rusted solid.

The subframe was also rusted through near the exhaust pipe so it was time to replace anyway, but beware. It might be good to take things out to do some preventative maintenance.

Glad you sorted things out, now enjoy!