Your dream setup

Started by Craigjm, October 21, 2022, 19:28

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Craigjm

I think I may have finally found a car fingers crossed for tomorrow. After looking at the cost of majorly overhauling everything service wise it got me thinking about brakes, suspension etc and I started trawling through here. I thought I would make it easy for myself  ;D  If you had the cash and could change everything to your perfect spec what would you buy in terms of -

Tyres
Brake discs
Brake pads
Calipers
Springs
Shocks
Polybushing
Air intake
Exhaust

Anything ive missed?

Ardent

I would suggest scrubbing the polybush off the list.

Zorst depends what you have vs want.

Otherwise, just fresh oem everything would be good.

Carolyn

Quote from: Craigjm on October 21, 2022, 19:28I think I may have finally found a car fingers crossed for tomorrow. After looking at the cost of majorly overhauling everything service wise it got me thinking about brakes, suspension etc and I started trawling through here. I thought I would make it easy for myself  ;D  If you had the cash and could change everything to your perfect spec what would you buy in terms of -

Tyres
Brake discs
Brake pads
Calipers
Springs
Shocks
Polybushing
Air intake
Exhaust

Anything ive missed?

Unless you want to turn into a track car (which will be 'orrible as a daily):

I'm not a fan of messing with the air intake.  It might sound more 'sporty' but it won't run better.  Stock exhaust is just fine.  Anything else (except a good manifold), again may sound 'sporty' but adds no performance.

For road use, fresh OEM suspension is the way to go.  You can put more adjustable 'coilovers' on, but, on our lousy roads, the ride will be much harsher for no appreciable improvement in handling.

The car, as it came from the factory, is very hard to improve upon.  Additions that will sharpen it up are a good front strut brace and a mid-brace underneath.
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Joesson

Quote from: Ardent on October 21, 2022, 20:00I would suggest scrubbing the polybush off the list.

Zorst depends what you have vs want.

Otherwise, just fresh oem everything would be good.

And there starts the difference of opinion.
My current project is the front wishbones.
When in need of repair or replacement your options are complete replacement Toyota arms, best price likely to be TCB.
After market complete arms, make your choice from many at prices from around £45 to £450, that is more than Toyota!
The above are your options if you are having a garage do the work and you want to minimise labour costs.
If doing the work, as I am you have the above options, that are certainly the most straightforward. But if you use other than Toyota parts you are in a debatable zone.

Alternatively, if you want to know what you are using , difficult with the AM bushes,  replace bushes and ball joint with aftermarket items. Requires some tooling, OK if you have it.
Poly bushes, can apparently give a harsh ride.
After much consideration I have decided on SuperPro bushes and Moog ball joints.
The ball joints I have, the bushes are in the post, almost!

Calipers
I refurbed the fronts and stripped the rears but decided then to buy aftermarket iirc NK calipers as components and tools made renovation less attractive.
Still on the discs and pads that were on the car when I bought it!
For my daily I bought Pagid ( plain) dices  and pads and would buy the same for my 2.
Springs, I cleaned and painted the 66K springs,
Shocks  replaced with KYB

Inlet and exhaust as original but minus the pre cats.

As for availability of cash and perfect spec etc I suggest does get tempered by ones individual wants, needs and capabilities.





1979scotte

Fresh suspension and bushes
Front and mid bracing
Fresh rubber and wheels in correct PFL sizes.
Full fluid change oil gearbox coolant pas
Fresh OEM quality disc and pad
Probably a new rad new rear subframe new steering UJ

Avoid silly intakes
Only change the exhaust if you want more noise

Make sure it's all good underneath before spending on anything  else I've had 3. From early PFL to a TF300 and they all needed a new subframe and tlc
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Petrus

Basically as above. The car is very well sorted in OEM guise. Just refresh with OEM.

Slight additions:
A good manifold runs a bit better and is lighter.
On the inlet side the only slight gain is in replacing the restricted elbow on the filter housing with a straight through bend.
Although the OEM muffler is top notch, it is heavy. There is quite some to be saved BUT anything lighter will make more noise though.

First of all, unless it has a perfect service history;  full maintenance! Next have fun and get to know the car before you start modifying.
Enjoy!!

You don´t state if it is a facelift or pre facelift. The latter benefits from front lower brace and rear lower arm braces.

Alex Knight

Quote from: Craigjm on October 21, 2022, 19:28If you had the cash and could change everything to your perfect spec what would you buy in terms of

Tyres - Yokohama AO52
Brake discs - Endless
Brake pads - Endless/Project Mu
Calipers - AP Racing
Springs - Swift
Shocks - Ohlins
Polybushing - Any
Air intake - Any
Exhaust - TRD


Petrus

Would like a Lexan windscreen, carbon fibre bonnet & rear deck and a lightweight exhaust with sports yet proper cat and double loop muffler.

But with lóts of money I´d have a different more visceral cabrio. Or keep this one too.

AJRFulton

My car is track only. It would be effectively unusable as a road car.

Gearbox is the one thing I'd change as the OEM gear ratios are not great for track use.

Money no object it would be bespoke sequential box, but realistically I will be changing the final drive to try make it more track usable.

Petrus

Quote from: AJRFulton on October 22, 2022, 13:37Gearbox is the one thing I'd change as the OEM gear ratios are not great for track use.


Mileage apart the ever lower speed limits and intense enforcing a shorter end ratio would do nicely for street use too.
As it is one of the very few ´power mods´ you can get away with here, I´d lóve it.

Carolyn

I've got a JDM five speed box with factory LSD.  It has the sportier final drive ratio and closer ratios on 3rd and 4th.  Great on the twisties, but a bit too high revving on high speed roads.  I understand it's the weapon of choice for the track folk.

Horses for courses.
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Chilli Girl

Quote from: Carolyn on October 22, 2022, 14:02I've got a JDM five speed box with factory LSD.  It has the sportier final drive ratio and closer ratios on 3rd and 4th.  Great on the twisties, but a bit too high revving on high speed roads.  I understand it's the weapon of choice for the track folk.

Horses for courses.

And an awesome rare bit of kit it is - I should know because I've driven it ;D
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Dev

Tyres. Anything with stiff sidewalls like the OEM which are hard to find these days.
Brake discs OEM like quality or the newer high carbon alloy rotors if you can find them.
Brake pads For a street application organic pads for better modulation.
Calipers  Stay with OEM they are great otherwise Wildwood for the front if you want exceptional feel.
Springs   Lowering springs are mostly for looks.
Shocks.   OEM or Koni but if you want coilovers get ones that are researched for the car like KW V3.
Polybushing. Best option Superpro. They are made with OEM stiffness and keep the new car ride.
Air intake. Sure why not for sound but do not get one that you have to oil as that destroys MAFs
Exhaust Anything that doesn't sound like a four cylinder Honda.



Petrus

Quote from: Carolyn on October 22, 2022, 14:02I've got a JDM five speed box with factory LSD.  It has the sportier final drive ratio and closer ratios on 3rd and 4th.  Great on the twisties, but a bit too high revving on high speed roads.

Additionally a less green programming and lighter weight. All adding up to more bubbles in the sprite.