Oil consumption (PRECATS PICS ADDED)

[spynish]

Hi chaps!

I'm a bit scared cause today I've checked the oil level and it's at the minimum. It has been 10000 km since last change (I know it's too much time  s:( s:(  ). Do you think this oil consumption is normal taking in account it's a 2000 model and it has 40000 Km? Or is the precats ghost appearing?

I'm waiting for a TRD header and so haven't gutted precats...

Thank you!

P.S: Next week I'm taking the car to the dealer. Meanwhile I'll take other car.

UPDATE: Mr. T has checked up all engine and everything is OK. It seems that with a Syntethic oil is a totally normal consumption.

[markiii]

40K is about right for precats to go on that age motor.

me, I'd worry.

[heathstimpson]

Yes give them an inspection asap to put your mind at ease  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

[spynish]

Hi again!

Checked the precats, and not very well, as I supposed...  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:  
I took some pics of left precat, right one couldn't be focused, but I imagine it may be similar.
Gutting tomorrow.



And zoom:

[Anonymous]

Get 'em out. That one is looking a bit flakey to me.

[Anonymous]

it looks like mine just before i put my trd header. and i did have a bit of oil consumption. (did, because my engine is not doing well at all now, it's on 3 cylinders, see story on spyderchat if you want).

[Anonymous]

Please excuse my ignorance but I have possible engine trouble at 40K and wondered what precat is - my car is currently with Toyota as we speak!

[markiii]

long answer is search, as there is an enormous amount of info on here about pre-cats.

the short answer is that they are catalytic converters (2 of them) that sit in your manifold ahead of teh main cat (hence teh name pre-cat) and their job is to ensure good emissions before teh engine (and main cat) are up to temp.

they are ceramic and have a habit of destroying engines when they break up.

[Anonymous]

Thanks - guy in the garage says the only way he can tell what the problem is, is pull the old one apart - is this correct? They are quoting me £2k for a whole new exhaust!!

[markiii]

if he means pull teh iold exhaust apart then yes.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for your help - looks like I have no choice - the power of the car is just getting worse and worse can now only do 60mph!!!

[aaronjb]

Thanks for your help - looks like I have no choice - the power of the car is just getting worse and worse can now only do 60mph!!!

Should probably try and keep this all in one thread, but.. just as a pointer in case you haven't seen the discussion in your thread:

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[Anonymous]

Thanks, will do

[Anonymous]

They are quoting me £2k for a whole new exhaust!!

I dunno about full exhaust and cat, but that sounds a tad steeper than the 400quid for just the last exhaust box and twin pipes.

I know the cat material is rare and expensive stuff, but that still sounds like quite a lot to me.

[markiii]

manifold is £600 plus and thats dealer trade price.

so if they are quoting for that, main cat will be circa £300, backbox circa £300, add dealer markup and labour, and that price could easily be reached.

it coudl be done for half that though.

[markiii]

so,

I reckon JapGT300 could probably sort you out with a replacement main cat for £100 ish,

back box should be fine to use teh existing one, though if you really want TTE I know someone who will be selling his soon.

manifold doesn't need replacing so just gut the pre-cats and reuse.

so far it's only cost £100

add on a couple of hundred for someone to do teh work, and your only looking at £400 top wack.


now how long your engine lasts after that is anyones guess, but it's chances are the same wether you spend teh £400 ish my way or give teh dealer 2 grand.

guess which I'd do  :-) :-) :-)

whereabouts are you located?

[Jap GT300]

I can sort some really good prices on engines, manifolds and cats.

Engine ~ £600
Manifold ~ £200
Cat ~ £100
Exhaust ~ £20

I can have them delivered all over the country.  I wouldn't trust Toyota to look at the car.  They gave me one back with knackered bearings and insisted that it was 100% good   s:roll: :roll: s:roll:  

They'll just serve you with a bill of more than your car is worth!

An independent garage should be able to do the work you require with much less expense.

Adam

[Anonymous]

Adam,

Thanks very much for the info. Unfortunately last night I agreed to let Toyota do the exhaust (they are goign to dismantle it and advise) but I will definitely contact you again once I have their diagnosis!!

You guys are being a great help - thanks

Louise

[Anonymous]

such a good price on an engine... i might be interested as mine is consuming more and more oil... and i guess you dont ship to continental europe. can i pick one up?   s:) s:)  

Nicolas

[so.simple]

Adam, do you ship to continental europe?

[ChrisHumes]

I took my 52 plate '2 to toyota for its first mot check and took along a copy of this post. They said that they have never heard of such failures. I showed him the pics and said would you mind checking them for me. Cost one hours labour. I will let you's know what the outcome is. He did mention that a few engines have failed on 'loss/lack of oil'. I said is this not related to the precats failing - he said definetly not.

Anyway, I took out the extended two year warranty for £610. He mentioned that the engine is covered but the exhaust is not. Therefore because the pre-cats are classed as part of the exhaust if they fail I have to pay. BUT, he said that engine failure wasnt down to the precats, so hopefully if all goes wrong I am still covered! Does this sound correct??

[markiii]

dealer bullshit

[mrsmr2]

I asked my dealer about the extended warranty and they said that the engine would be covered if the pre-cats failed.  They weren't admitting that the pre-cats caused a problem (the usual Toyota dealer response) but they were clear that if the engine failed, it was covered.

Not that I'm so worried these days, the cats have gone.

Jason

[edward.carter]

I took my 52 plate '2 to toyota for its first mot check and took along a copy of this post. They said that they have never heard of such failures. I showed him the pics and said would you mind checking them for me. Cost one hours labour. I will let you's know what the outcome is. He did mention that a few engines have failed on 'loss/lack of oil'. I said is this not related to the precats failing - he said definetly not.

Anyway, I took out the extended two year warranty for £610. He mentioned that the engine is covered but the exhaust is not. Therefore because the pre-cats are classed as part of the exhaust if they fail I have to pay. BUT, he said that engine failure wasnt down to the precats, so hopefully if all goes wrong I am still covered! Does this sound correct??

An hours labour to check precats?!  s:shock: :shock: s:shock:   try 10 mins   s:roll: :roll: s:roll:

[Anonymous]

I`m becoming a nervous wreck reading all this about pre-cats!

Having been the owner of a 2000 model, 43K, for all of 2 months, and having now mechanical nous at all, I am worried. I am not sure I would know where to look to see if mine were still in situ!

any recommendations of somewhere in lincs / leics / Northants that I can refer to? Also whats the options? removal, buggered engine, or .....?

cheers

Paul