3 into 2 WILL go!

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Rogue

June 18, 2005, 11:21 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Rogue
That's a 3SGTE into an MR2 Roadster of course...



Work's now progressing quite rapidly, and is so far entirely repeatable!

  s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:  

Rogue

philster_d

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June 18, 2005, 11:33 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by philster_d
Yummy

kanujunkie

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June 18, 2005, 11:38 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by kanujunkie
nice  s8) 8) s8)  

how long till it's ready? will it be done for JAE?? what sort of costs are there? Details man, details!!  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Rogue

#3
June 18, 2005, 12:34 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Rogue
Quote from: "kanujunkie"how long till it's ready? will it be done for JAE?? what sort of costs are there? Details man, details!!  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

All in good time... This is just the teaser...

  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  

Rogue

Chris

#4
June 18, 2005, 13:37 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Chris
to save anyone else that didn't know the same search that i just did, this is the 200+ bhp engine from the celica gt-4...

Could be tasty! Now you just gotta make it cheaper that a turbo conversion, and you could have a winner   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
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[size=80]Ex 2004 Red 6sp MT TTE Turbo
Ex 2003 Astral Black 6sp SMT
Ex 2002 Lagoon Blue 5sp MT
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Rogue

#5
June 18, 2005, 13:45 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Rogue
Quote from: "Chris"to save anyone else that didn't know the same search that i just did, this is the 200+ bhp engine from the celica gt-4...

Doh! Sorry, thought you guys would have a bit more idea of your MR2 heritage... The 3SGTE is the 2 litre twin cam 16v turbocharged engine from the mk2 MR2 (and equivalent Celica GT4 models). This particular engine is the 241BHP incarnation from a late 1998 MR2 turbo. Inital power target for the car is 300BHP at the wheels, which should prove no great task with the technology we're using.

Quote from: "Chris"Could be tasty! Now you just gotta make it cheaper than a turbo conversion, and you could have a winner   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

Never, ever gonna happen I'm afraid. The 3SGTE transplant is always going to work out more expensive. But then performace-wise it'll be in a league of it's own - the 3SGTE has been tuned to in excess of 700BHP; levels you'll never see from the 1ZZ-FE!

Rogue

Ernie Ball

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June 18, 2005, 13:57 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Ernie Ball
Quote from: "Rogue"the 3SGTE has been tuned to in excess of 700BHP; levels you'll never see from the 1ZZ-FE!

Dear god. That's insane.

I take it this is the same '2 that has the 19" wheels?

Chris

#7
June 18, 2005, 14:00 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Chris
I did notice the mr2 turbo a little further down the page in the list of installed applications but didn't mention it in the post for some reason!!   s:? :? s:?  

Others have well have known, but i don't know much about the previous '2s technically - hey i'm just an smt driver!!   s:roll: :roll: s:roll:    s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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2004 Maroon Lotus Elise 111R[/size]
[size=80]Ex 2004 Red 6sp MT TTE Turbo
Ex 2003 Astral Black 6sp SMT
Ex 2002 Lagoon Blue 5sp MT
[/size]

Anonymous

#8
June 18, 2005, 14:15 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Anonymous
nice, tis getting there   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

Tem

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June 18, 2005, 14:39 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Tem
Quote from: "Rogue"3SGTE has been tuned to in excess of 700BHP

Just for the record, those have been tuned into 4-digit numbers  s;) ;) s;)


Seems like you're gonna have a nice ride indeed  s8) 8) s8)
Sure you can live without 500hp, but it\'s languishing.

SteveJ

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June 18, 2005, 14:57 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by SteveJ
Quote from: "Ernie Ball"
Quote from: "Rogue"the 3SGTE has been tuned to in excess of 700BHP; levels you'll never see from the 1ZZ-FE!

Dear god. That's insane.

I take it this is the same '2 that has the 19" wheels?

Indeed it is  s8) 8) s8)

BenF

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June 18, 2005, 15:40 Last Edit: June 18, 2005, 15:52 by BenF
Quote from: "Rogue"That's a 3SGTE into an MR2 Roadster of course...

Work's now progressing quite rapidly, and is so far entirely repeatable!

  s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:  

Rogue

Nice work! Given your experience of doing NA to Turbo conversions on Mk2 I'm sure it will be a very nice job.

I'm just battling some CELs at the moment with the PE turbo kit on mine - a proven 3S-GTE conversion would be seriously tempting.
Chargecooled PE Turbo, Unichip, TRD Front brace, Corky's Breastplate, Tein SS springs.

BenF

#12
June 18, 2005, 15:52 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by BenF
Quote from: "Chris"to save anyone else that didn't know the same search that i just did, this is the 200+ bhp engine from the celica gt-4...

....and the MK2 MR2 Turbo!

The engine it has to be said is a gem, and has great headroom for tuning. You can get a reliable 270bhp from a early engine spending under 1k in parts (on a Mk2) and 300bhp from a later Rev3-on engine that I assume Patrick has put in this one.

I have to say though that having driven my 220bhp PE turbo'd Roadster along backroads I know well earlier today I've decided that it is now definitely 'quick enough'. For comparision, it has the same power/weight ratio as a 290bhp Mk2 Turbo, similar to my old Mk2 Turbo that was 280-308bhp depending on boost levels.

I did get the chance to drive my Roadster and my old Mk2 last weekend back to back (the new owner of my Mk2 is a friend) and the Mk2 Turbo has a little more lag than the PE Turbo'd car, but the engine is a lot more civilised - and as it was designed to be turbo'd from the start, it will also be utterly reliable - I've had a few issues to resolve with the PE turbo conversion which have kept me on my toes  s:) :) s:)
Chargecooled PE Turbo, Unichip, TRD Front brace, Corky's Breastplate, Tein SS springs.

Anonymous

#13
June 18, 2005, 20:15 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Anonymous
That's awsome!!  s:shock: :shock: s:shock:  

I want!  s:P :P s:P  

I suppose the insurance might go up a tad?  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

philster_d

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June 18, 2005, 22:59 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by philster_d
hehe I still have my low miles rev 4 turbo who wants to car mould with me?  s:) :) s:)

Jap GT300

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June 20, 2005, 07:39 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Jap GT300
Rogue,

"Could" this be offered in a kit form (engine mounts, loom extention etc..)?

Then buyers could choose and fit their own engine?

Thanks Adam

Rogue

#16
June 20, 2005, 14:10 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Rogue
Quote from: "Jap GT300"Rogue,

"Could" this be offered in a kit form (engine mounts, loom extention etc..)?

Then buyers could choose and fit their own engine?

Thanks Adam

Hi Adam,

At this stage it's unlikely - that's a fair amount of custom work involved, and the chassis itself needs a little modification... I'll post more details once the work is complete and we have the big picture.

Rogue

Rogue

#17
July 1, 2005, 13:16 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Rogue
Quote from: "Ernie Ball"I take it this is the same '2 that has the 19" wheels?

Well I tried it with 15" wheels:



But I much prefer it with the 19's:



(Congratulates self on wheel choice)   s8) 8) s8)  

Rogue

kanujunkie

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July 1, 2005, 14:00 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by kanujunkie
 s:shock: :shock: s:shock:  holy mother of God  s:shock: :shock: s:shock:  

they're huge
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kanujunkie

#19
July 1, 2005, 14:01 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by kanujunkie
and is it me or is that tread pattern on the tyres going the wrong way round?
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Anonymous

#20
July 1, 2005, 14:19 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Anonymous
Even I like those wheels..........  s:oops: :oops: s:oops:    s:oops: :oops: s:oops:    s:oops: :oops: s:oops:

Rogue

#21
July 1, 2005, 18:02 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Rogue
Quote from: "kanujunkie"and is it me or is that tread pattern on the tyres going the wrong way round?

Good spot!   s:) :) s:)   We knew we'd picked up the wrong one but we'd just fitted the driveshafts and wanted to test-fit a wheel so it didn't really matter...

Rogue

Anonymous

#22
July 2, 2005, 16:13 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Anonymous
those wheels are niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice

Jap GT300

#23
July 2, 2005, 18:01 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Jap GT300
So how does it drive?  You can't tell me you've still not taken it out!

kanujunkie

#24
July 3, 2005, 10:30 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by kanujunkie
Quote from: "Jap GT300"So how does it drive?  You can't tell me you've still not taken it out!

doesn't look in any shape yet, the supsension looks incomplete
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