I think this got covered on the old forum, but I didn't care then. s:) :) s:)
When the hood is down I get kinda ears at the back corners where some straps are supposed to pull the hood in.
Thought I'd sussed it last night cos I found the strap and reattached it but it's still doesn't pull my "ears" in. Anyone know anything?
Cheers
J
Here ya are mate - think this is what your after:
m http://www.euroroadster.com/articles/Sh ... Straps.xml (http://www.euroroadster.com/articles/ShowArticle.asp?File=SoftTopStraps.xml) m
Just the ticket - Ta. It lasted 3 months before it fell apart - Toyota quality s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
J
Just hope you dont have to order a part from them... 3 weeks! s:o :o s:o s:evil: :evil: s:evil:
How long does it take you to tuck the ears in?...about a few seconds surely.
Ahhhh....but Craig.....you shouldn't HAVE to........ s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Exactly!
If my central locking broke it would only take me a few seconds to stick the key in and unlock the car manually, but I'd still get it fixed.
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Fair point...but....
Have you seen how shite a MX5 or MG looks with their roof down...and the hastle they have to go to.
We can pop our roof, and only have to tuck a couple of ears in...easy.
Please don't flame me s:oops: :oops: s:oops: ...I am just as much as a perfectionist as you guys
Ahh, but think about all that extra drag the ears create s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Of course that's true. The point is that there are a couple of tabs, that can be easily fitted it they come undone, that pull the "ears" in when you drop the roof.
BTW, not that I think it's a huge hassle to drop the roof on the '2, but you do have to lower the windows, flip the sun visors, undo the catches, drop the roof, tuck the back down, clip the front in, slide your (and the passenger's) seat forward to flip the wind delector up, slide the seats back...
It's more hassle than MX-5 owners, for example, have to go through to drop their roof, so I'm not quite sure what you point is about "the hassle they have to go through".
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Quote from: "Hardcore"slide your (and the passenger's) seat forward to flip the wind delector up, slide the seats back...
Just leave it up all the time - its not exactly huge is it! s:D :D s:D
Don't worry Craig. Was only kidding! I know what you mean. My cousin still has an MX-5 and he hardly EVER puts the roof down cos he said it was WAY too much hassle to unzip the rear window, then tuck in various bits a bobs....he just can't be bothered.......
And 'Core, doesn't the manual say that you are not supposed to open and lock the car without the plipper? s:? :? s:?
Yep, we've got some friends with an Mx5 - they can pretty much drop theirs on the move, or at least at some lights, only bad thing is they can't put it up without getting out of the car when it starts raining like we can s:D :D s:D
J
OKOKOK.
Anyway, not sure who gave the following advice...but thanks.
Last night I drove into my garage and thought I would try a complete roof up from sitting in the drivers seat.
So right hand over to unclip, left hand over to the drivers corner to grab the exposed corner, then right hand over to lift from the middle, and clip in place....was WELL impressed with managing to do this first time.
Just a shame that I cant manage to roof down from the drivers side...pesky ears
I put the wind deflector down as I often chuck stuff (jacket etc) on the back shelf when the roof's up and the deflector gets in the way a bit.
As for MX-5's, well I've only seen the newer ones with the glass rear window so I can't really comment on this zipping business! Sounds like a chore though.
I have no idea about not unlocking the doors manually, but if you're not supposed to then why bother having key holes on the doors at all??
I'm curious Craig, how were you putting your roof back up before you tried the method from the drivers seat? I've never put my roof up any other way, just reach around pop the clip and pull the roof up and over.
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I don't know 'Core. The holes are there for something, but the manual explicitly says not to try and lock or unlick the door with the key! Seems daft to me!
And Craig, not sure how you were doing it before, but I CAN'T put the roof up from outside the car. Only from sitting in the drivers seat and reaching over and pulling up. Dead easy. I finid ot more difficult to put the roof DOWN from the drivers seat cos the roof material is a bit stiff if it isn't too warm and it never sits properly first time. Always have to push the rear window in and down a little bit.
Yet again I agree with John (people will start to talk...), you really have to get out of the car to put the roof down properly, unless it's been sitting in direct sunlight for a while and has really warmed up, then sometimes you can just throw it down over your shoulder.
I can't imagine how to easily put the roof up from outside the car, seems like more hassle than it's worth!
I've not read the bit in the manual about not unlocking the doors manually, although I have noticed that the exterior door handle/lock unit is nicked straight from the Celica so that might explain the retention of the redundant key holes.
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Mine is getting easier...it was very stiff and difficult to pull up when we first got it...so I have always pulled it from outside...never tried inside.
It was also difficult to clip it down at first...I guess it gets easier the more it goes up and down (the roof).
Mine's still pretty stiff (f'narr, f'narr) when it's cold but I'm sure they do ease up a bit in time. The thing that makes a real difference is the temperature, the hotter it is the easier it is to put the roof down.
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Yeah clipping it down was a bit of a problem. It still is sometimes, especially when it is cold. And the hood doesn't sit completely flat when it is cold either. Nearly, but not quite.
As for putting the roof up, surely that would actaully quite awkward and also a little detrimental to the hood, as if you are outside the car, when you are pulling up, there is going to be a little lateral pulling, meaning that the roof is also going to come slightly sideways. Over time, this may actually cause damage. But that may also well be BS! if its been working for you so far Craig, then who am I to argue!
And the keyholes? Maybe you are right 'Core. I haven't seen the Celica ones up close (well, I haven't looked at them anyway), so there maybe something in that. I would imagine it would be ok to use them in emergencies for instance, but nothing more. The manual will tell you off otherwise!!! s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
We are going to have stop agreeing. Not good for reputations really is it? s:shock: :shock: s:shock: s:? :? s:? s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s8) 8) s8)
Dammit! Stop being so smart and I'll stop agreeing with you! The point about lateral movement in the roof when raising it from outside the car is probably right. I guess that's why there is that pull handle in the centre of the leading edge of the roof, so that you can pull it up straight, from inside the car.
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TA DAAAAAAA!!!!!!! s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Craig, thinking about this a little more, I would probably think about raising your roof from inside from now on. All the pulling from outside might cause the joints of the roof to become worn over time and may loosen the roof.
Maybe...... s:? :? s:?
'Core. I am going to try and find somethig to disagree with you now, just to prove I ain't that smart!!! s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
I disagree with all of you!.
Na, not really, I am going to miss this forum over the next two weeks, but then again, I will be either sat by the pool or driving my Mum's boat in 85+ degree heat in Cyprus.
Quote from: "John Woodward"'Core. I am going to try and find somethig to disagree with you now, just to prove I ain't that smart!!! s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
I agree with you again, you aint that smart.
s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Quote from: "cstevens"I disagree with all of you!.
Na, not really, I am going to miss this forum over the next two weeks, but then again, I will be either sat by the pool or driving my Mum's boat in 85+ degree heat in Cyprus.
s:evil: :evil: s:evil: alright for some! Hay, i may even have my '2 back by the time you get back from holiday... then again.... s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
QuoteI disagree with all of you!.
Na, not really, I am going to miss this forum over the next two weeks, but then again, I will be either sat by the pool or driving my Mum's boat in 85+ degree heat in Cyprus.
LUCKY SOD!!! Disagree all you like, see if we care...... s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
QuoteI agree with you again, you aint that smart.
HAH! You got me there.................bugger........ s:evil: :evil: s:evil: s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
I never get out of the car to put the roof up or down. It can easily be done at up tp 30 mph if you get caught out in the rain. All I do if it is cold is to push the window down onto the engine cover & the rest follows (even the ears).
I do agree that it wont fold completely flat like this, but hey its good enough for me when I am only going to work!
And i find that it dosent shut to well infact at all, when you make a Sub box to bloddy big and dont pay attenstion to the " dont load obove this line" sticker. Make the box Cover it in Vinal power the sub up sound teh dogs swinging bits And when the sun come out NO roof down for me then s:roll: :roll: s:roll: s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
Oh well we all make our mistakes s:P :P s:P It was my first attepmt on the 2 tho so forgiveness can be given i think s8) 8) s8)
mmm, very worrying! I tend to agree with most of John's posts too... and I've also noticed he's an ex Selespeed driver and Radiohead fan! If he starts posting about golf and motor cruisers I'll start thinking I've got a long lost brother!!
But back on topic!.... I bought my '2 at about a year old, and found the hood strap in the luggage bin. I fitted the strap (correctly I think!), but I've still got ears. I thought a couple of months worth of tucking the ears in might "train" the hood to tuck them in with the straps... but no luck. Anyone got any suggestions how i can get the ears to tuck in automatically?
As others have said it's not a huge problem, and my MX5-driving mate is well impressed with the 2's hood, but it'd be a bonus if I didn't have to tuck them in. Any ideas?
Quote from: "zud"But back on topic!.... I bought my '2 at about a year old, and found the hood strap in the luggage bin. I fitted the strap (correctly I think!), but I've still got ears. I thought a couple of months worth of tucking the ears in might "train" the hood to tuck them in with the straps... but no luck. Anyone got any suggestions how i can get the ears to tuck in automatically?
As others have said it's not a huge problem, and my MX5-driving mate is well impressed with the 2's hood, but it'd be a bonus if I didn't have to tuck them in. Any ideas?
try HERE (http://www.euroroadster.com/articles/ShowArticle.asp?File=SoftTopStraps.xml)
Quotemmm, very worrying! I tend to agree with most of John's posts too... and I've also noticed he's an ex Selespeed driver and Radiohead fan! If he starts posting about golf and motor cruisers I'll start thinking I've got a long lost brother!!
Doh! My identity is out!!! s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Heh heh.....I only had use of a Selespeed for a little while. Was not bad. Still prefer a manual. And have been a Radiohead fan from the very beginning. Missed out on two gigs BEFORE Creep was released as a single cos I was revising for finals at Uni, but my mate went cos he finished his way before I did and he has NEVER let me live that one down EVER! I am SOOOOO jealous! Seen them since, but would have been great to say "I was there" before they hit the big time.
Heard a bit of the new album this weekend. It getting there again!!! Lets hope that the NEXT album is a blinder in the mould of "Ok" and "Bends"......
Wow! I bow to your superior Radiohead-fan-ness!!! I thought I was an early fan... from the first time I heard Creep on the radio. What makes me laugh is that in those early days the press seemed to give them stick about being too far up their own @r$es. Then the press were all over them once they produced (IMHO) a couple of self-indulgant albums!!
I thinked I've missed seeing Radiohead live now though, so I'm very jealous... I've given up on the big venues (wembley, MK etc), and try to catch bands while they're still playing places like the Brixton Acedemy.
Thanks Kris, that was the site that originally sent me looking for the strap. As far as I can see I fitted the strap properly, but 3-ish months later it still hasn't started to "train the hoods shape over time".
I think it helps to hold the ears in once I've tucked them in myself, but it won't pull them in for me. Never mind, hardly a big deal!
Its strange that you have the ears even after fitting the straps correctly. If you come to JAE, maybe one of the guys there that know the car inside out could have a look?!?
QuoteWow! I bow to your superior Radiohead-fan-ness!!! I thought I was an early fan... from the first time I heard Creep on the radio. What makes me laugh is that in those early days the press seemed to give them stick about being too far up their own @r$es. Then the press were all over them once they produced (IMHO) a couple of self-indulgant albums!!
I thinked I've missed seeing Radiohead live now though, so I'm very jealous... I've given up on the big venues (wembley, MK etc), and try to catch bands while they're still playing places like the Brixton Acedemy.
Heh heh......a bit on the oder side me..........
I agree with what you are saying though. If you listen to Pablo Honey now, it is actually a really good album cos it has proper songs on it. Same as Bends and Ok. But the other stuff since has been REALLY hard work. Pablo was raw, if a little "indie" of the time (probably thier biggest criticism) and the Bends and Ok were them being proper musicians instead of playing to a style. Amnesiac and Kid A......well, just weird (although there are some good things on them).
Last time I saw Radiohead was on their "tent" tour when they were promoting Kid A. FANTASTIC stuff. Small, homemade venue (no more than about 2000 in there) and they played a really good mixture of old and new. Thier latest British tour was small gigs too, but they sold out in 5 mins! So, I see where you are coming from. I would go and see them though. They ARE very good live.......
Quote from: "John Woodward"Heh heh......a bit on the oder side me..........
I wish!!!... I was revising for my finals in '86.... by '92/'93(?) I was too busy being a Dad to go to gigs!
Never mind, I still feel young when I'm in the '2!! s:D :D s:D
Bloody hell! Ok, you beat me there Zud! Still, I do feel old compared to a lot of this lot on here!
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What a job logging in, this site that site, anyway now I'm logged on.
For the record, I have recently had a new hood fitted under warranty. The hood straps are still there but not as you know them. There is now only one strap, where the other strap was there is now a spring which is attached to roof bar. This does the same job as before possibly with a bit more tension.
Try some of that AutoGlym (or other) hood care stuff. Mine is much more flexible now and the ears kinda work better too.
It's horrible greasy stuff though so make sure you don't get it everywhere.
J
Quote from: "Jimbob"Try some of that AutoGlym (or other) hood care stuff. Mine is much more flexible now and the ears kinda work better too.
It's horrible greasy stuff though so make sure you don't get it everywhere.
If you don't wanna leave it greasy, do it before washing the car. Let it dry a bit in the sun and then water the top...all the "extra" grease comes off and just leaves a clean&black top s:) :) s:) After that you need to wash the car though as the sides have greaselines...
One extra pro is that you won't get those greasy marks after the first rain anymore.
Quote from: "cartell", where the other strap was there is now a spring which is attached to roof bar. This does the same job as before possibly with a bit more tension.
That's interesting, sounds as if mr t have redesigned the roof; wonder why it didn't get fitted to the 03? I can't imagine that the roof ears are a big enough problem for them to change the design on mid-production...
Hi there
I've just got my roadster and have just found this thread about the ears. I've got a strap which dangles down from the passeger side of the hood but doesn't seem to go anywhere. Where should i route it? I've tried following the links above but they are broken.
Some photos on here....http://www.spydermagazine.com/
TBH I reckon it might be easier to contact an owner near you so you can compare yours with the correct one. A location in your profile could assist.
Thanks for link.
I've added my location now s:D :D s:D
My hood strap arrangement was undone and ineffective and not able to tidy the ears 'as advertised', when I bought the car from a MrT and well inside the 3rd warranty year. Two MrT's saw fit to call a company Assessor, who didn't argue with my complaint but who didn't give me much encouragement either. After a great deal of correspondence, photo's etc, 'head office' told me all was well and they weren't going to provide a new hood. In fact, the hood is sound, but it doesn't do the job it should (ears) and it can look 'lumpy' at the sides when up. Also they cannot fix the problem. These lumps could lead to wear holes, IMHO. At the time we had a member who reported having several new hoods fitted and replaced under warranty, and I wonder if this contributed to the very hard line I experienced? I feel they did not meet their responsibilities. s:( :( s:( s:( :( s:( s:( :( s:(