So after getting the right wheel nuts from Envy, making up spigot rings (out of three sets of spigot rings in various sizes, because nobody makes 65.1-54.1mm rings, it seems, even Rays) from w www.dieseldub.co.uk (http://www.dieseldub.co.uk) w ..
The old wheels came off (sorry occifer, I didn't realise you were meant to have tread):
(http://zion.mind-design.co.uk/roadster/wheels/photos/R0010633.JPG)
The new wheels went on:
(http://zion.mind-design.co.uk/roadster/wheels/photos/R0010634.JPG)
(http://zion.mind-design.co.uk/roadster/wheels/photos/R0010635.JPG)
It also got a full alignment - front camber & toe and rear toe adjustment so it no longer sidesteps over every bump.. Unsurprising given the unequal (and large) toe settings front & rear really.. oops.
Nice mate.
looking good!
that looks a bit better s8) 8) s8) or at least better than in the box they've sat in for ages
what camber and toe settings did you get done then Aaron?
Nice touch with the wheel nuts, like those. s:) :) s:)
Rubs thighs - looks damn sexy - are they 15's or 16's?
Looks sexy Aaron.
So what else you got left to do now?
Gorgeous, they're classic wheels that look good on just about everything!
im loving those. there is something about white wheels that make me a little moist.
and those make me mighty moist.
good work aaron
J
Look fantastic Aaron... very jelous.
What weight are they?
Alex
Quote from: "enid_b"I'm loving those. there is something about white wheels that make me a little moist.
and those make me mighty moist.
good work aaron
J
Que pun involving "16 inches" s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
They do look good on Aaron. Love the wheel nuts as well!
Simon
Yes I like Aarons blue nuts <sniggers>
It certainly looks the part - nice one Aaron - I think you will find his nuts will go lighter with age s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
One thing a forgot to ask - what have done with regard to lockers, the last thing you want is some scum bag making off with them????
Liz, I have some spare nuts if you'd like a feel s;) ;) s;) s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
To cover some of the questions (only a quick post, my folks are visiting at the moment):
They're 16x7 all round, fronts are running 205 tyres, rears running 225 - all Toyo T1-R. The steering feels so much lighter now than it did with the 2003 wheels on.. 'course with the release agent still on the Toyos it's also a bit like driving on an ice rink s:) :) s:)
On locking nuts - they're Rays locking nuts.. One nut on each wheel has seven unequal length sides and a spline locater, while the other three are normal six sided nuts.. not impossible to hammer a socket on, of course - but then you can do that with most other locking nuts anyway s;) ;) s;)
Quote from: "northernalex"What weight are they?
lets just say a piece of paper has more weight, they're sodding light
Quote from: "aaronjb"They're 16x7 all round, fronts are running 205 tyres, rears running 225 - all Toyo T1-R.
Stock dimensions are 3 units sizes staggered. Limiting only to 2 will that affect driving? Why didnt you put 195 instead of 205?
The wheels look very nice !! Great choice!
Quote from: "SimosSpyder"Quote from: "aaronjb"They're 16x7 all round, fronts are running 205 tyres, rears running 225 - all Toyo T1-R.
Stock dimensions are 3 units sizes staggered. Limiting only to 2 will that affect driving? Why didnt you put 195 instead of 205?
The wheels look very nice !! Great choice!
Stock dimensions on pre-03 cars are 185 and 205. However, all stock wheels are staggered in width so the actual difference on the 16x7s will be a little less than stock.
Great wheels Aaron! s;) ;) s;)
Quote from: "northernalex"What weight are they?
Depends a bit from the ET, but they weight 5.1kg with ET35. Yes, Volk actually quotes the weights for every diameter/width/ET combination. s8) 8) s8)
How do I know? I have the same set myself. s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Looking verrrrry nice Aaron.
White goes with the blue car great - didn't realise that. Keep up the good work. s8) 8) s8)
Your toy is looking very nice indeedy Aaron s8) 8) s8)
Quote from: "Tem"Depends a bit from the ET, but they weight 5.1kg with ET35. Yes, Volk actually quotes the weights for every diameter/width/ET combination. s8) 8) s8)
These are ET42, but yeah - they're extremely light.. which seems to have made the car a
lot more nimble than it was with the stock 03 wheels on (even with the alignment fixed).
I'll post up my alignment specs later - suffice to say at the beginning I had huge rear toe-in, too much front toe-in, uneven camber and toe all round.. no wonder it handled like a bag of nails s;) ;) s;)
I went quite conservative on the camber at the front - mostly because the old fella at the tyre place didn't want to set them to 'out of spec', so they're right at the upper range of spec (1°20') static camber.
I want some s:) :) s:)
Alex
I'm kinda on the lookout for some in 17x8 to make a proper staggered set of wheels.. so if I find a set, I could make two sets and sell the other set, Alex s;) ;) s;)
Quote from: "aaronjb"I'm kinda on the lookout for some in 17x8 to make a proper staggered set of wheels.. so if I find a set, I could make two sets and sell the other set, Alex s;) ;) s;)
hmmm s:) :) s:)
Alex
Quote from: "Jaik"Quote from: "SimosSpyder"Stock dimensions are 3 units sizes staggered. Limiting only to 2 will that affect driving? Why didnt you put 195 instead of 205?
The wheels look very nice !! Great choice!
Stock dimensions on pre-03 cars are 185 and 205. However, all stock wheels are staggered in width so the actual difference on the 16x7s will be a little less than stock.
Sorry - I forgot to reply to this bit..
Jaik is right - in fact, the stagger has probably been reduced quite considerably since the 205's are stretched to their maximum allowable width, and the 225's are squeezed onto their minimum allowable width.
I've found that with all of the other suspension modifications and the alignment I was running that I was getting understeer with the 2003-on size wheels that I had, but with the wider fronts on I'm getting no understeer at all.
It almost certainly will have shifted the balance toward the front (making it a bit more tail happy), but I quite like it that way s;) ;) s;) not to sound big-headed, but I think 4 years of mid engine, and 2 years of powerful FR cars before that trained me fairly well.
Of course, now I've gone and said that, I'll probably stick the car into a ditch backwards tomorrow....
[edit] Oh yeah - I forgot the reason I went with those sizes s;) ;) s;) I got them cheap as a set of four off another member here (new and unused).. really, that's the only reason. But having done it, I'm very pleased with how the balance of the car has worked out.
Quote from: "kanujunkie"that looks a bit better s8) 8) s8) or at least better than in the box they've sat in for ages
Yeah - I have space in my shed now! s:lol: :lol: s:lol: I can almost get to the bodykit that's languishing behind them.. next job is the MOT, though.
Quotewhat camber and toe settings did you get done then Aaron?
So I said I'd come back to this.
Front
Initial Final
Left Camber -1°23' -1°20'
Right Camber -1°52' -1°23'
Left Toe -0°01' 0°06'
Right Toe -0°47' 0°06'
Rear
Left Camber -1°24' -1°28'
Right Camber -1°16' -1°21'
Left Toe 0°29' 0°10'
Right Toe 0°34' 0°10'
Thrust Angle -0°02' 0°00'As you can see, my front camber started out pretty uneven - although not too bad - and was evened up to close to the top end of the stock specifications. I could probably run quite a bit more camber actually - I have more at the rear than the front right now!
The front toe was
horrendous with (I think that's) toe
out, big uneven toe out in fact! And is now set almost neutral - turn in is much sharper.
Rear camber is fixed so that's settled - it changed as a result of sorting then..
Abysmal rear toe settings s;) ;) s;)
So there you have it.. as an aside - ProTyre in Slough have a brand new alignment machine. It's recessed into the floor so that even a car with it's bumper scraping the ground can get onto it as there's no rise or drop at all. Very neat.
Plus I got to poke around under the car and help out s;) ;) s;) but only because there was nobody else there - and I've been going there for 8 years so.. s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
hmm, the second white wheeled roadster i've seen tonight - maybe a trend is starting.... Although I think the white wheels look more cohesive on damon's black one, just seemed to pickout the side & headlights better...
Those tyres were worse than mine after Martin had finished them off at Keevil!! s:D :D s:D
I do think mine now needs something.. it's not aggressive enough to really pull off white wheels as it stands. I should really get around to getting that kit fitted..