Well guys you have done it again
the problem of the judder when braking was the front disc's, just back from the garage and all is spot on as it should be
also had a set of goodridge brake hoses fitted, now I'm not sure if its the new disc's and pads brake bleed but very sharp on the stopping side now so would recomend the hose change to
thanks again
a very happy 2 keeper s:D :D s:D