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Title: Spare keys
Post by: m1tch on June 5, 2017, 07:06
Hi all,

I have a feeling that the MR2 I am hopefully collecting this weekend might only have 1 key meaning I would need to get a spare/replacement, my questions are:

Who is able to code the keys?
Is Ebay the best place to get a blank key (guessing with a blank transponder)?
Does the key operate the central locking or is it just the remote (eg you have to open each of the doors manually if using the key)?
Is it possible to use just the key and not the remote and not have the alarm go off (eg if the battery in the fob dies)?
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: MR Roadie 2 on June 5, 2017, 09:18
My car came with 1 key.

I bought a key via Ebay. I had to send the seller a photo of the current car key blade. The seller then sent a new key already cut.
I then contacted Dick Sloan for transponder to put into the blank key casing.
I got a copy of the re-coding (the MR2 dance) off the forum to re-program my key. This to me 2 attempts to get the key to operate correctly.

I try and get the contacts and the thread for reprograming.  s:D :D s:D

 l viewtopic.php?f=47&t=23563 (http://www.mr2roc.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=23563) l
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: smarty72 on June 5, 2017, 10:49
What MR Roadie 2 said.
Although I bought a Toy 41 bladed key from eBay for around £3 and got my local cobbler to cut it for me.
I also bought a used transponder from eBay and programmed it to both the central locking and immobiliser with the instructions readily available on the internet.

All in, cost under £30 [emoji4].
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: m1tch on June 5, 2017, 12:15
Thanks for the info guys, have checked with the seller and he has 1 standard key, the valet key and a fob without a key blade - might be able to simply buy a new key blade and swap the internals over or recode myself, I only ask as when I had a Mercedes it was dealer only to reprogram the key as it was hard locked to the ECU and VIN of the car.
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: paulj on June 5, 2017, 15:23
When you get your keys cut, remember to cut from the main key and not the valet.  The main key is the one which will open the glovebox and luggage compartments.

When programming there are two distinct processes to go through.  One is pairing the alarm with the new key and the other is programming the transponder chip for the ignition. As mentioned before, instructions for both on here.
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: BahnStormer on April 11, 2018, 15:33
Any updates on the kest way to get a replacement internals (fob) that will fit a stock key?

I only have one key and it's getting a little "tired"... so v nervous right now.
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: Treboeth on April 11, 2018, 16:22
Quote from: BahnStormer on April 11, 2018, 15:33
Any updates on the kest way to get a replacement internals (fob) that will fit a stock key?

I only have one key and it's getting a little "tired"... so v nervous right now.

The best way to get new internals is either on ebay or through one of the breakers in the affiliates section.
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: paulj on April 11, 2018, 20:12
If searching eBay, you want a Tokai Rika fob.  Toyota fobs come in three flavours and you don't want Valeo or Denso
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: BahnStormer on April 12, 2018, 20:30
Thanks guys - looks like the first remote I got was a dud: here's the confirmed steps!!

So the steps are:(NOW TESTED AND WORKING!!)
1) Key: TOY41 Blade
   a) sourced: (£3-£10 on eBay) - mine was <£6 for two, but tested and they work!
   b) cut: £5 per key at a local market stall - don't bother with Timpsons (£60 incl key) or Homebase (willing but unable).
2) Fob: Tokai Rika (£15-£20 on eBay)
3) assemble: open key (small philips screw), snug fit, but fob clicked in, with rubbers in place and screwed it together (difficulty level 0.5/10)
4) Coding:
   a) "dance" to recode the remote for the alarm/door locks
"dance" to recode the remote for the alarm/door locks (https://youtu.be/SgEYPdBemHI): just watch the Dutch guy in the video - seemed easiest that way!
   b) "dance" to recode the remote for the immobiliser (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?topic=23563.0) - as per the link below, but just remember:
      i) it's only key in - NOT key in and turn (I tried one way, then the other, then back to the first way and that worked - I think I messed up counting to 5 or 6  :-\).
      ii) to watch for the immobiliser light next to the fan/aircon controls to start flashing - THEN WAIT 60sec for it to stop flashing!!

Turned the key once the immobiliser stopped flashing... and the engine fired immediately :)

Total cost: ~£27 (blade, cutting, fob).

I don't know if '2's EVER came with "grey" keys, but apparently the steps above only work if you have a fully functioning master "black" key.

Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: Treboeth on April 12, 2018, 21:12
The Dance

https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?topic=23563.0
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: BahnStormer on April 12, 2018, 22:32
Quote from: Treboeth on April 12, 2018, 21:12
The Dance

https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?topic=23563.0

perfect.... I still just laugh every time I see that....

I'm going to have decide if I do it under the dead of night or find an abandoned car park somewhere, where there's no chance of anybody watching.... it's basically doing the hokey cokey in and out your MR2, with a key in your hand, isn't it?!?
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: Treboeth on April 12, 2018, 23:03
I`m a little shocked you are treating it with such a lack of respect  :o


The Key Dance has to be done at midnight under a street light, roof down with the alarm sounding to attract the correct viewing audience  ;)

Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: Call the midlife! on April 12, 2018, 23:26
This is only half helpful I know but someone posted a YouTube (I think) video on the Facebook page a while back of an easier, shorter version of one of the "Dances". Can't remember the details unfortunately so like I said, half helpful.


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Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: Call the midlife! on April 12, 2018, 23:42
https://youtu.be/SgEYPdBemHI
Not sure if the link will work but it might help.


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Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: BahnStormer on April 13, 2018, 16:03
I'm sorry if this isn't giving it the due respect, but that dance is even more ridiculous on video than reading it on paper!

That's just the alarm and remote locking dance.... still have to do the immobilizer dance.... and that's a proper right foot in, out, in, out, in, out, in, out, in, out (and shake it all about).... then left foot in, out, in, out..... oh dear, I lost count..... if I want to start again do I have to go all the way back inside the house and sit down again?
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: Treboeth on April 13, 2018, 16:59
Quote from: BahnStormer on April 13, 2018, 16:03
I'm sorry if this isn't giving it the due respect, but that dance is even more ridiculous on video than reading it on paper!

That's just the alarm and remote locking dance.... still have to do the immobilizer dance.... and that's a proper right foot in, out, in, out, in, out, in, out, in, out (and shake it all about).... then left foot in, out, in, out..... oh dear, I lost count..... if I want to start again do I have to go all the way back inside the house and sit down again?

Yes definitely  ;D

I forgot to mention you must have someone video the whole dance and upload it to this thread so other members can judge your performance  :))
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: BahnStormer on April 24, 2018, 18:09
Ok, where can you get the keys cut?

I got a couple of the TOY41 blades off fleabay as a trial... but Timpsons' won't touch them: they will only do their own blades and want £55 just for that!!

I also tried Homebase, the lady there was game, but said that unless I could take the blade out entirely away from the plastic, it wouldn't fit in their machine....

Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: Bossworld on April 24, 2018, 19:19
Quote from: BahnStormer on April 24, 2018, 18:09
Ok, where can you get the keys cut?

I got a couple of the TOY41 blades off fleabay as a trial... but Timpsons' won't touch them: they will only do their own blades and want £55 just for that!!

I also tried Homebase, the lady there was game, but said that unless I could take the blade out entirely away from the plastic, it wouldn't fit in their machine....

Any suggestions?

Either somewhere on a market stall or see if this guy can do TOY41, he did mine (paid more direct from their site).

http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=222139893939&category=53908&pm=1&ds=0&t=1507949167000&ver=0&cspheader=1
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: ManInDandism on April 24, 2018, 21:15
Just seek out a local independent locksmith. 

Won't have to adhere to any corporate ruling and will be happy for the business.  Cost me 6 quid I think.
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: BahnStormer on April 24, 2018, 22:24
Quote from: Bossworld on April 24, 2018, 19:19
Either somewhere on a market stall or see if this guy can do TOY41, he did mine (paid more direct from their site).

http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=222139893939&category=53908&pm=1&ds=0&t=1507949167000&ver=0&cspheader=1
Quote from: ManInDandism on April 24, 2018, 21:15
Just seek out a local independent locksmith. 

Won't have to adhere to any corporate ruling and will be happy for the business.  Cost me 6 quid I think.
Thanks, I'll try some of those...
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: BahnStormer on May 6, 2018, 10:31
Kingston-Upon-Thames, town centre locksmith van cut the two blades for £10 and said they're at least as good quality as the original, so no harm in getting the online versions. Timpsons seem to have a national policy of not cutting other people's key blades now.... not surprising when I paid £13 total for what they wanted to charge me £60 for....

The key turn the barrel and crank the engine, but without the immobiliser units coded, it never fires.... so at least the immobiliser works!! If I place the original key next to the steering column when I use the new key in the ignition, then the engine fires and it all works perfectly :)

Time to get a working fob and put my dancing shoes on!!
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: BahnStormer on June 26, 2018, 14:19
I can confirm that mine is working now - first fob I had was a dud, tried new batteries, etc... still never coded.

I've updated the previous "how to" above: https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?topic=62660.msg761244#msg761244

Quote from: BahnStormer on April 12, 2018, 20:30
Thanks guys - looks like the first remote I got was a dud: here's the confirmed steps!!

So the steps are:(NOW TESTED AND WORKING!!)
1) Key: TOY41 Blade
   a) sourced: (£3-£10 on eBay) - tested and works!
   b) cut: £5 per key at a local market stall - don't bother with Timpsons (£60 incl key) or Homebase (willing but unable).
2) Fob: Tokai Rika (£15-£20 on eBay)
3) assemble: open key (small philips screw), snug fit, but fob clicked in, with rubbers in place and screwed it together (difficulty level 0.5/10)
4) Coding:
   a) "dance" to recode the remote for the alarm/door locks
"dance" to recode the remote for the alarm/door locks (https://youtu.be/SgEYPdBemHI): just watch the Dutch guy in the video - seemed easiest that way!
   b) "dance" to recode the remote for the immobiliser (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?topic=23563.0) - as per the link below, but just remember:
      i) it's only key in - NOT key in and turn (I tried one way, then the other, then back to the first way and that worked - I think I messed up counting to 5 or 6  :-\).
      ii) to watch for the immobiliser light next to the fan/aircon controls to start flashing - THEN WAIT 60sec for it to stop flashing!!

Turned the key once the immobiliser stopped flashing... and the engine fired immediately :)

Total cost: ~£27 (blade, cutting, fob).

I don't know if '2's EVER came with "grey" keys, but apparently the steps above only work if you have a fully functioning master "black" key.

Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: lemans on July 29, 2018, 12:15
I recently tried an Ebay blank. Just want to put my old internals in a new case as the old case fell to bits in France last month.

The new blade won't go all the way into my ignition. The blank looks very similar to the original. Does this mean I have a dud blank?

Thanks
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: normanh on July 29, 2018, 19:26
Seems lots are buying duff TOY41 blanks I have 2 just useless, even when I filed out the slot with a rifle file, the guy that cut it loved charging but wouldnt warrant the cutting - its useless. All I wanted was the back plastic with I have fitted to mt original key solving my problem ,just annoying the blade didnt fit.

Norman
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: CunningLinguist on May 21, 2019, 00:18
Just in case anyone else is still needing to get another key, I'd like to recommend the chap I bought one from today. It is a flip key, with a TOY41 blade, coded to match the immobiliser and ready for the "dance" to program the remote locking.  I called in with the existing key and within 20 minutes had the new key, along with a useful sheet showing the key code, the transponder details, etc., and was instructed on all aspects. 

Unfortunately I wasn't in the MR2 - if I had've been, the helpful seller would have done the remote programming too.  Postal service is available.

As this is my first post, I'm not sure whether I can include a link, so please PM me if you want more details.

I've no connection with the business. I'd done a lot of internet/forum searching and contacted a few auto locksmiths and eBayers before finding this fella, and it isn't often that service (and price) impresses me enough to prompt a recommendation.
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: Joesson on May 21, 2019, 14:18
From my reading on here replacement keys are not that readily available at acceptable prices and often involves getting various parts from different sources.
If you have found a supplier of a replacement flip key complete with transponder that does a postal service and all the buyer has to do is to pay (and presumably supply an original key on loan)  and do the initiation dance then I believe others will be pleased see a link or contact details.
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: ManInDandism on May 21, 2019, 21:17
Quote from: Joesson on May 21, 2019, 14:18
From my reading on here replacement keys are not that readily available at acceptable prices and often involves getting various parts from different sources.
If you have found a supplier of a replacement flip key complete with transponder that does a postal service and all the buyer has to do is to pay (and presumably supply an original key on loan)  and do the initiation dance then I believe others will be pleased see a link or contact details.

This is not my personal experience.  Search on eBay to find blank key complete with transponder (£33), get key cut at local non-franchised locksmith (£7 if I remember correctly), program key myself and job's a good'un.  Could not be simpler.  There are also cheaper sources.

If you have your heart set on a flip key then might be a different story (4 cars in my household with various key types and personally do not see the attraction).  But if you're a bit handy, SpyderLEE does have a youtube video on how to convert a standard key into a flip key.

The other thing is - the reason most people are after a spare is because they have just the single key.  So unlikely then to want to be posting off the one key that you do have.

Here's the KEY (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOYOTA-YARIS-COROLLA-ECHO-MR2-SUPRA-2-BUTTON-TOY41-TOKAI-RIKA-CAN-CUT-AND-CODE/153449038507?hash=item23ba4682ab:g:Rc0AAOSwHMJYFmIb) I got.  Came with with a new case with gold Toyoto logo.  I note that Rutland MR2 regularly have a listing for keys also.
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: Joesson on May 21, 2019, 22:19
I was thinking that "others" would be pleased to find a one stop supplier. Some years ago I converted my one transponder key to a flip case.
Fair point about posting your one key, but nevertheless a "working" transponder key with some sort of assurance that it will work could be helpful as is the source you have posted a link for.

PS I have pm'd the OP asking him to share his contact.
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: CunningLinguist on May 22, 2019, 00:24
The man to contact is Patrick Boyle and the cost is £30.00 plus £2.26 for Royal Mail 1st Class Recorded Delivery.

*Mod - personal data removed - please request contact details via pm*

I found him very helpful and the key worked first time; it's also easier on the pocket, in every sense, than the alternatives, and saved me having to source and assemble the various parts.

As I happened to be travelling within an hour of his place, I drove over with the key, rather than trusting the postal system.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: Bossworld on May 22, 2019, 07:24
Believe they're the same firm that do Toyota keys on eBay cut to code for less than a tenner. Used them a couple of times for my car and mum's. Just swapped the transponder around and saved any doubt/messing about with blanks and cobblers.

Interesting that they can do the flip ones now too.
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: BahnStormer on May 22, 2019, 08:34
Quote from: CunningLinguist on May 21, 2019, 00:18
Just in case anyone else is still needing to get another key, I'd like to recommend the chap I bought one from today. It is a flip key, with a TOY41 blade, coded to match the immobiliser and ready for the "dance" to program the remote locking.  I called in with the existing key and within 20 minutes had the new key, along with a useful sheet showing the key code, the transponder details, etc., and was instructed on all aspects. 

Unfortunately I wasn't in the MR2 - if I had've been, the helpful seller would have done the remote programming too.  Postal service is available.

As this is my first post, I'm not sure whether I can include a link, so please PM me if you want more details.

I've no connection with the business. I'd done a lot of internet/forum searching and contacted a few auto locksmiths and eBayers before finding this fella, and it isn't often that service (and price) impresses me enough to prompt a recommendation.

Great first two posts :)

Could you please try the key in the glove box and most importantly - in the driver's door?

The reason I ask is that I got a cheap eBay TOY41 key blade off eBay... got it cut and used it for a few months in my car and then had a problem where the alarm was going off and the fob wouldn't unlock it, so I tried unlocking the door, only to find that the key didn't fit any of the doors! Not the locksmith's fault - the groove down the middle of the key is very fractionally too narrow... just thinking I can send the spare (with the narrow groove) off and use that to get the new spare cut :)

£30 sounds like a very fair price - pretty much what you'd pay for an eBay part (blade + fob) and cutting... I paid £27, but the blade was such a budget one that I now need to buy and another and get it cut!
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: Bossworld on May 22, 2019, 10:46
@BahnStormer (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=24604) I searched for the address above on old emails and it's the same guy as I used. The first set I had didn't work properly on any lock but were promptly replaced and worked on everything in and out of the car. You send a photo of your old key and they decode how to cut it, and it's cut by computer.

Toyota verified the code that they read, so as long as the cut is accurate you should be good

https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?topic=65743.msg773627#msg773627
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: CunningLinguist on May 22, 2019, 10:57
Hi Bahnstormer.  Thanks for suggesting this as, although I'd successfully tried the driver's door as soon as I was back at the car, I hadn't thought to try the glove box and storage lockers, which I now know don't work with the new key :(   To be honest, the glove box doesn't open very reliably from a locked position even with the "original" key, which I believe is also a replacement item.  I'll contact Patrick and see what he suggests.   I'm off to do the Roadster Remote Rumba (or Secure Spyder Samba?) now, using the instructions on this forum, so I'll report back on whether that succeeded too.
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: CunningLinguist on May 27, 2019, 11:02
Remote Rhumba didn't work. Got to the point where I was in programming mode - confirmed by the door locks going on/off - but then when I pressed both buttons on the remote, and then one button, nothing happened.  So, I've reported back and will report progress here.
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: BahnStormer on May 27, 2019, 20:21
Quote from: CunningLinguist on May 27, 2019, 11:02
Remote Rhumba didn't work. Got to the point where I was in programming mode - confirmed by the door locks going on/off - but then when I pressed both buttons on the remote, and then one button, nothing happened.  So, I've reported back and will report progress here.

let us know when you crack it... I found it worked best with the video playing alongside... have to dance in step ;)
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: paulj on May 28, 2019, 17:59
+1 for running a youtube video.  I found that the time between steps was too long/too short without the accompaniment.  Once in time, it worked first time!
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: CunningLinguist on May 29, 2019, 11:13
Ok, thanks for the suggestion of taking a video dancing partner. I'm pretty sure I did it right whilst shuffling solo, but I'll put my ballet slippers back on and have another play (or plié) soon.
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: CunningLinguist on August 20, 2019, 10:03
A somewhat belated follow-up to this post ...  Patrick kindly offered me a full refund so I returned the key and decided to follow suggestions made by others on this forum to obtain a spare transponder key from eBay and try to program that via the dance.  Once again I got to the point where I was in programming mode, but pressing the Lock and Unlock buttons together on the second remote had no effect. I did this with the video playing alongside and I tried it several times.

Is it possible that there's something about my car that prevents the programming from working with the "new" remote?  And, if so, what do I try next?  Can I just take my original and second keys to an auto-locksmith and ask them to replicate the original info on the new one, and cut a blank blade to match? Presumably then they could also program the immobiliser side of things too, as I now have a record of the code.

Can anyone recommend such a locksmith in North or West Yorkshire?
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: ManInDandism on August 20, 2019, 12:05
Have not seen the video but used the instructions below  (on the forum several times in old posts):

1. Begin with the old key out of the ignition.
2. The DRIVER'S side door should be OPEN and unlocked. CLOSE all other doors including bonnets.
3. Within 5 seconds INSERT the old key into the ignition and PULL it out TWICE.
4. CLOSE then OPEN the DRIVER's side door TWICE.
5. Insert old key INTO the ignition then REMOVE it.
6. CLOSE then OPEN the DRIVER's side door TWICE.
7. Insert the old key INTO the ignition and LEAVE it in the ignition.
8. CLOSE the DRIVER's side door.
9. Switch the ignition to ON then OFF.
10. REMOVE the old key from ignition.
11. The door locks will now cycle to confirm the vehicle has successfully entered programming mode.
12. PUSH and HOLD the LOCK and UNLOCK button for 1.5 seconds on the new key remote being programmed. As soon as you let go PUSH the LOCK button and HOLD it for 2 seconds.
13. The door locks will cycle to confirm successful programming of the new key transponder. If you have any additional transponders to program repeat step 12 if you have no additional transponders proceed to step 14.
14. OPEN the DRIVER'S side door. Programming the transponder is now complete.

For the immobilser:

Now that you have the newly cut key and the master key, you can program the Toyota transponder key. Sit in the driver's side of the Toyota vehicle. Press and release the brake and gas pedal simultaneously.
Insert the master transponder key. Do not turn it. Push and release the gas pedal 5 times within at least 15 seconds of inserting the master key.
Press and release the brake pedal 6 times within 20 seconds of completing step 3, then remove the master transponder key.
Insert the newly cut transponder key into the ignition, but do not turn. Press the gas pedal once.
Wait up to 2 minutes or whenever the security light on the dashboard turns off. Once the light goes off, remove the new transponder key and press the brake pedal once. The new transponder key should now be programmed. Test the key by attempting to start the engine. If the engine does not start, repeat the steps above.

Does the video do Step 12 exactly as stated?
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: paulj on August 20, 2019, 17:33
Just one new thought if you still cant get the fob to pair.....

The ECU will only hold the details of four fobs so perhaps yours already has four paired (and lost) during its life.  You can reset the ECU using another version of the dance and you can also check how many paired with the similar dance.

Its the number of on-offs you complete with the key before you finally remove it.  1 is add a fob, 2 is re-write mode, 3 is confirmation mode (and cycles lock unlock for the number of fobs registered) and 5 is prohibition mode (don't know what that does).

If you do the 3 routine and get 4x lock/unlocks then your ECU is full and needs rewriting.
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: CunningLinguist on August 23, 2019, 19:03
Aha - I hadn't thought of that!  I'll do the confirmation dance, and hope that it does indeed give 4 x locks/unlocks.  Will report back.  Also, to answer the question re step 12 of the video, I think the timings suggested are slightly different, so once I've deduced whether I'm already oversubscribed on the fobs front, I'll try the alternative above too.  Thanks to both of you.
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: BahnStormer on August 25, 2019, 20:30
Quote from: CunningLinguist on August 23, 2019, 19:03Aha - I hadn't thought of that!  I'll do the confirmation dance, and hope that it does indeed give 4 x locks/unlocks.  Will report back.  Also, to answer the question re step 12 of the video, I think the timings suggested are slightly different, so once I've deduced whether I'm already oversubscribed on the fobs front, I'll try the alternative above too.  Thanks to both of you.

I think the max fobs is SEVEN....

Also - double checking you're not using the grey key?!?
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: CunningLinguist on August 27, 2019, 13:05
I think the limit is four and, no, I'm not using a grey key.  Chances are that the only good one I have is already a replacement key.  Anyway, I did the confirmation dance and deduced that only two were registered. Tried again to register my new one, but no luck so I risked wiping them all from the car's memory and then tried again. I could re-register the good one I already had, but not the second one, so I can only conclude that despite having bought it as an MR2 fob, it doesn't have the correct chip in it :(
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: paulj on August 27, 2019, 17:56
Ours are the Tokia Rika fobs, when out of the key body they tend to be a grey square with transparent battery cover one side and the buttons on the other.
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: EliOwen on August 11, 2020, 14:45
I accidentally locked keys in car (http://smyrnalocksmiths.com/), where can i get the new key or how to unlock the door. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: Carolyn on August 11, 2020, 15:27
Quote from: EliOwen on August 11, 2020, 14:45I accidentally locked keys in car (http://smyrnalocksmiths.com/), where can i get the new key or how to unlock the door. Any suggestions?
Call a locksmith
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: Joesson on August 11, 2020, 16:50
Quote from: EliOwen on August 11, 2020, 14:45I accidentally locked keys in car (http://smyrnalocksmiths.com/), where can i get the new key or how to unlock the door. Any suggestions?

As @Carolyn suggests "call a locksmith" is likely your quickest solution. I suggest enquire as to cost before engaging.
I managed to get to a Main Dealer and get a replacement in the 1970's haven't done that since.
Replacement from Mr T is expensive!
A neighbour bought a set of lock picks from the www. to get into his Volvo.
In past times in the UK the Car Breakdown Services would do this.
Your car insurance may cover lost keys, check with them.
Your local garage may help.
Check the cost / availability of a passenger window from a breaker and use a hammer to break the window.
That is what a local hooded youth would do.
The rubber trim around the side windows is pliable and may allow wire coat hangers etc to be employed, again a local youth may be be bribed to help. Here is a link for a product called "Goldfinger" It shows a glorified wire coat hanger to reach and disengage the lock at the inside door handle or reach and catch your keys.
https://www.lockpickworld.com/products/gold-finger-through-car-tool
I don't suppose you have a spare key?

Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: tricky1138 on August 11, 2020, 17:06
You might be able to slide a long thin bit of metal or similar between the window and the hood frame to try and move the door unlock catch.

I did that with one of my mates cars (Not MR2) and managed it after lots of attempts.

This is all dependant on if its not deadlocked.

You might also set the alarm off if it is activated.
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: georgereece on September 30, 2020, 19:46
From where you have got the keys, have you considered a locksmith (http://www.vinelandlocksmith.com/) or a dealer?
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: Joesson on October 1, 2020, 10:55
Quote from: Joesson on August 11, 2020, 16:50
Quote from: EliOwen on August 11, 2020, 14:45I accidentally locked keys in car (http://smyrnalocksmiths.com/), where can i get the new key or how to unlock the door. Any suggestions?

As @Carolyn suggests "call a locksmith" is likely your quickest solution. I suggest enquire as to cost before engaging.
I managed to get to a Main Dealer and get a replacement in the 1970's haven't done that since.
Replacement from Mr T is expensive!
A neighbour bought a set of lock picks from the www. to get into his Volvo.
In past times in the UK the Car Breakdown Services would do this.
Your car insurance may cover lost keys, check with them.
Your local garage may help.
Check the cost / availability of a passenger window from a breaker and use a hammer to break the window.
That is what a local hooded youth would do.
The rubber trim around the side windows is pliable and may allow wire coat hangers etc to be employed, again a local youth may be be bribed to help. Here is a link for a product called "Goldfinger" It shows a glorified wire coat hanger to reach and disengage the lock at the inside door handle or reach and catch your keys.
https://www.lockpickworld.com/products/gold-finger-through-car-tool
I don't suppose you have a spare key?



I visited this thread again via recent posts and had another look at the link I posted. This has a brief video of the "Goldfinger" in action, it's being used with an " inflatable wedge" , enlightening, perhaps worrying for some!
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: puma2 on October 15, 2020, 11:21
 :) i had a locksmith out as i just wanted a another key.
cost all in £162 and was flip key just to let you no  a price to compare to. :)
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: BahnStormer on October 15, 2020, 21:10
Quote from: puma2 on October 15, 2020, 11:21:) i had a locksmith out as i just wanted a another key.
cost all in £162 and was flip key just to let you no  a price to compare to. :)

wow, was that including accessing your car? flip key sounds nice, but that's a hefty step up from <£35 for blade + fob + cutting...
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: househead on October 15, 2020, 21:59
Quote from: BahnStormer on October 15, 2020, 21:10
Quote from: puma2 on October 15, 2020, 11:21:) i had a locksmith out as i just wanted a another key.
cost all in £162 and was flip key just to let you no  a price to compare to. :)

wow, was that including accessing your car? flip key sounds nice, but that's a hefty step up from <£35 for blade + fob + cutting...

Yep, think mine was about £20 all in. Tenner on eBay for the blank key (albeit without the electronic innards) and another tenner for cutting.

Different kettle of fish if you're locked out of it!
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: BahnStormer on October 16, 2020, 13:08
Quote from: househead on October 15, 2020, 21:59
Quote from: BahnStormer on October 15, 2020, 21:10
Quote from: puma2 on October 15, 2020, 11:21:) i had a locksmith out as i just wanted a another key.
cost all in £162 and was flip key just to let you no  a price to compare to. :)

wow, was that including accessing your car? flip key sounds nice, but that's a hefty step up from <£35 for blade + fob + cutting...

Yep, think mine was about £20 all in. Tenner on eBay for the blank key (albeit without the electronic innards) and another tenner for cutting.

Different kettle of fish if you're locked out of it!

Innards are £15-£22, blade is £6-£12 and cutting £5-£10.... likely to cost £30-£40 for the whole lot... my 2007 sable only had one key when I got it, so I had to do the whole lot for the spare... but my 2006 - with double the mileage and no service history, came with all three (incl the grey valet key!)...
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: Stuey2uk on May 23, 2021, 17:03
I'm struggling to get a spare key sorted as I only have a 'slave' key: heater LED stays on before extinguishing.

Can anybody recommend 'a guy' - close to Milton Keynes who can reset my 2ZZ ecu or make/program a spare at a reasonable price (?)

Are there any other options ?
Thanks
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: fawtytoo on May 26, 2021, 15:00
And to add to "other options": where to get a replacement transponder? eBay seem to have some but I can't the the internal part apart to get to the PCB.

My key is good but I can't use the central locking. Transponder is practically dead, red LED on key doesn't light up.
Title: Re: Spare keys
Post by: BahnStormer on June 29, 2021, 09:13
Quote from: Treboeth on April 12, 2018, 21:12The Dance

https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?topic=23563.0


yep - I'd put clickable links on each section...