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The Workshop => General => Topic started by: steveash on June 14, 2023, 10:54

Title: Glove box damper
Post by: steveash on June 14, 2023, 10:54
When opened my glovebox drops like a stone with a plasticy clonk. Is this normal or should there be a damper?
Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: Carolyn on June 14, 2023, 11:11
Plasticy clonk is OEM.  You could put rubber pads on the stops?
Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: J88TEO on June 14, 2023, 11:50
Cheap and cheerful plastic...
On my Lexus, it drops slowly. On the 2...like yours  ;D
Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: steveash on June 14, 2023, 12:34
Thanks! Right I'm going to have a look if I can cushion it a bit. I'm also thinking of getting all fancy and lining the inside of the glove box. Flocking is probably the easiest and a great excuse to use the word in conversation.
Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: Topdownman on June 14, 2023, 18:13
Quote from: steveash on June 14, 2023, 12:34Thanks! Right I'm going to have a look if I can cushion it a bit. I'm also thinking of getting all fancy and lining the inside of the glove box. Flocking is probably the easiest and a great excuse to use the word in conversation.

Be careful how you apply it, we wouldnt want you to have to flock off....
Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: McMr2 on June 14, 2023, 18:18
Quote from: steveash on June 14, 2023, 12:34Thanks! Right I'm going to have a look if I can cushion it a bit. I'm also thinking of getting all fancy and lining the inside of the glove box. Flocking is probably the easiest and a great excuse to use the word in conversation.

I haven't looked at it in detail, but I wondered if one of those kitchen drawer dampers could be rigged up behind the glovebox? Probably not optimised for the weight of it but just a thought.
Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: Petrus on June 14, 2023, 19:42
I simply hold it in, lower it with my hand and thus ´dampen´ the movement.
There is only  bare minimum in it so not a lot to make it crash down.

The ´stop´ is not much so apart from a self adhesive rubber strip of good old window draft stopper can´t see much working reliably.
Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: steveash on June 15, 2023, 00:36
Quote from: McMr2 on June 14, 2023, 18:18I haven't looked at it in detail, but I wondered if one of those kitchen drawer dampers could be rigged up behind the glovebox? Probably not optimised for the weight of it but just a thought.

Nice idea but probably a bit of foam will do a good enough job. I've changed the plastic glove box dampers on a couple of cars before. They don't seem to last very well before they stick and something snaps.
Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: Dev on June 18, 2023, 14:49
You have given me an idea. I refinished a whole set of kitchen cabinets a few months ago where I replaced the worn out tiny felt pads dots that cushion the doors with little gel adhesive pads that I assume are a newer style. I think If I apply them where it makes contact it will not make the hard crashing noise.

 

Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: Dev on June 19, 2023, 15:48
 I found where the glove box makes contact. It is basically a nub that contacts a ledge on both sides.
 The cabinet bumper did not work as it kept falling off. I have flocking material that I can add on the ledge but I don't think it will be of any benefit as it needs cushioning. 
 There is a place on the top of the glove box that could accommodate one of those fancy cabinet hinges that is dampened to make the door close quietly. 
Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: Joesson on June 19, 2023, 17:06
Quote from: steveash on June 14, 2023, 10:54When opened my glovebox drops like a stone with a plasticy clonk. Is this normal or should there be a damper?

When the glove box clonk reaches the top of your "To do" list you can sleep easy!
Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: Dev on June 19, 2023, 18:25
I think I found a viable solution.
My Lexus has a box that opens smoothly so I checked out how it works and there is a damper.

 I looked it up and it appears it is a common Toyota part that was on most Toyota cars even the economy ones like the Corolla. We probably did not get one because of cost, weight savings or both even though I don't think it adds much weight.

 With a little fabrication with drilling a new a small hole though the box you can use a bolt, nut and some washers to mount his damper on one side and do the same for the corresponding two you can mount on inside of the dash. Easy.

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Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: Alex Knight on June 19, 2023, 20:31
This is indeed a thread of utmost nerdiness  8)
Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: Dev on June 19, 2023, 22:05
Quote from: Alex Knight on June 19, 2023, 20:31This is indeed a thread of utmost nerdiness  8)

 I wouldn't do it myself regarding the damper but I tried to add some gel cabinet stoppers for fun. My curiosity got the best of me which led to an interesting discovery. With the glove box open on the side closest to the door you can reach your hand into the dash and there is a large enough cavity that can be a secret compartment.
 I will just say briefly that it is large enough to fit things that are easy to access and will not be found if the car is searched.

 
 
 
 

 
Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: steveash on June 19, 2023, 22:26
I have put a little cube of foam on the stopper which prevents it from being so clattery. I also have a roll of adhesive flocking material arriving tomorrow which should be enough to keep me glued to the inside of my car for some time.

By the way, the glovebox is very easy to remove. You just squeeze the side walls past the stops and then pull to unclip it from its hinges.
Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: Petrus on June 20, 2023, 09:44
as I wrote; rubber window strip and cross fingers.

Anyway, mine is near empty and I don´t let it drop; nooooooo issue  :D
Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: SuperArt on June 20, 2023, 16:52
We're going to be asking about lambs wool interior carpeting, starlight headliner and scented HVAC next!!!
Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: Petrus on June 20, 2023, 17:04
Quote from: SuperArt on June 20, 2023, 16:52We're going to be asking about lambs wool interior carpeting,

Solved that  8)
Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: ucb on June 20, 2023, 19:14
Quote from: SuperArt on June 20, 2023, 16:52We're going to be asking about lambs wool interior carpeting, starlight headliner and scented HVAC next!!!


Oh, do you know somewhere that might offer such services??
Asking for a friend obviously 😉
Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: steveash on June 20, 2023, 21:36
Quote from: SuperArt on June 20, 2023, 16:52We're going to be asking about lambs wool interior carpeting, starlight headliner and scented HVAC next!!!

To be honest, the interior of the MR2 is the one thing that bugs me. I appreciate it is purposely low rent in a Colin Chapmen style, less is more way. However, the design is a messy mixture of styles and hard, scratchy materials. While I wouldn't want to blunt my car's performance with heavy electrical gizmos or full leather trim I would like it to look and feel nicer. Eliminating rattles and making things operate in a more pleasing way make for a car that is more enjoyable to spend time in. People spend fortunes on ripping out the vinyl and nylon interior of 1970s Porsches to replace it with higher quality materials so why not give the Two some love?
Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: Dev on June 20, 2023, 22:14
Quote from: steveash on June 20, 2023, 21:36To be honest, the interior of the MR2 is the one thing that bugs me. I appreciate it is purposely low rent in a Colin Chapmen style, less is more way. However, the design is a messy mixture of styles and hard, scratchy materials. While I wouldn't want to blunt my car's performance with heavy electrical gizmos or full leather trim I would like it to look and feel nicer. Eliminating rattles and making things operate in a more pleasing way make for a car that is more enjoyable to spend time in. People spend fortunes on ripping out the vinyl and nylon interior of 1970s Porsches to replace it with higher quality materials so why not give the Two some love?

I agree. This is a road car not a race car with a stripped interior. The OEM interior is cheap looking and ugly which ruins the over all experience not just for me but others that see it. Other cars including the last two generations of the Miata came with nice interiors.
I fixed it to my taste using high quality materials.
Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: SuperArt on June 20, 2023, 23:17
You guys are going to like this then...

This was many years ago. Someone built this showcar in Japan and had all the plastic pieces taken out and fully trimmed in leather/suede. I saw the in progress photos showing the material being cut out and carefully adhered to the panels.
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Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: Dev on June 21, 2023, 02:19
It looks well done but the aesthetic is not to my taste. Too many gauges and too opulent like it belongs to a Russian gangster. I prefer an interior aesthetic that looks very OEM and understated like I didn't do it.
I'm sure others would like it but I like it to be less flashy.
Maybe I will take a good picture of my interior this weekend so you can see what I mean.
Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: steveash on June 23, 2023, 19:14
Sorted. A couple of small cubes of foam glued onto the stops damp the clunk nicely without it feeling unnecessarily luxuriant.

The adhesive backed lining does a great job of tidying up the glovebox and reduces the sound of things flying around! I'm happy to pass on my experiences of the job if anyone is interested.

(https://i.ibb.co/9TKmjTf/B9-FD965-D-06-DE-4159-89-F0-14766-C363531.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9TKmjTf)
Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: Dev on June 23, 2023, 20:54
That looks nice. Well done.   8)

Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: J88TEO on June 23, 2023, 22:28
Great work.
Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: SuperArt on June 26, 2023, 11:24
I can't see where you've made the modification, which I guess is the point!
Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: Petrus on June 26, 2023, 15:37
Quote from: Dev on June 20, 2023, 22:14I agree. This is a road car not a race car with a stripped interior.


It is all relative Dev.
The one, being a road car does not per definition exclude basic interior.
How a car comes trimmed from the factory is mainly marketing driven contemporary fashion.
Even today. 25 jears after the introduction of our MR2, some road cars can be ordered without or with a bare minimum of trim. At a premium of course because it makes them more desirable to those customers ;)
Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: Dev on June 26, 2023, 18:38
 I am sure the owner of a stripped car thinks others think their car is cool like they are a serious bare bones racer on the street but the reality is quite different.
Most think it's somebodies nightmare. 

Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: SuperArt on June 26, 2023, 19:52
Quote from: Dev on June 26, 2023, 18:38I am sure the owner of a stripped car thinks others think their car is cool like they are a serious bare bones racer on the street but the reality is quite different.
Most think it's somebodies nightmare. 

I don't drive my car much nor very far. When I do drive it's always for fun, not to go anywhere in particular.
I don't really want to go anywhere far as it's not really a comfortable place to be, and that's in standard full fat trim.
Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: SuperArt on June 26, 2023, 19:54
Quote from: Dev on June 21, 2023, 02:19It looks well done but the aesthetic is not to my taste. Too many gauges and too opulent like it belongs to a Russian gangster. I prefer an interior aesthetic that looks very OEM and understated like I didn't do it.
I'm sure others would like it but I like it to be less flashy.
Maybe I will take a good picture of my interior this weekend so you can see what I mean.

Agree with you on the gauges, way OTT.
The look and choice of materials however appeals to me. Like the more upmarket look even if unsubtle.

Looking forward to your images.
Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: Dev on June 26, 2023, 21:06
Quote from: SuperArt on June 26, 2023, 19:54Agree with you on the gauges, way OTT.
The look and choice of materials however appeals to me. Like the more upmarket look even if unsubtle.

Looking forward to your images.

 There are OEM interiors that I think are over done like my sisters G wagon. It looks like new rich and a bit ridiculous. Im a bit of a minimalist when it comes to interior design but I do like subtile hints of chrome where if it is used in moderation.
 I rather like the quality of the leather or feel of real metal that does not flake off like a previous BMW that did have a nice looking interior but it was not holding up because they used cheap plastics and finishing.
 Our cars have durable interiors but they are lacking in the finish.



Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: steveash on July 5, 2023, 20:32
Flushed with my glovebox success, I've now lined the lid of the dash-top storage. Including the front edge that touches the dashboard when closed (despite the rubber bumpers in the corners) and made a clack noise. It now makes a reassuring "thwump" and my sunglasses are safe from scratches.
Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: Joesson on July 5, 2023, 20:44
Quote from: steveash on July  5, 2023, 20:32Flushed with my glovebox success, I've now lined the lid of the dash-to storage. Including the front edge that touches the dashboard when closed (despite the rubber bumpers in the corners) and made a clack noise. It now makes a reassuring "thwump" and my sunglasses are safe from scratches.


Might I suggest you retitle  this thread -

The silence of the slams ?
Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: Petrus on July 6, 2023, 09:45
Quote from: Joesson on July  5, 2023, 20:44Might I suggest you retitle  this thread -

The silence of the slams ?

Lóve it!

The rest of the thread is alien to me as I simply don´t have the ´problem´.
Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: Dev on July 6, 2023, 18:21
Toyota use to sell a noise elimination kit that looked like fake velvet and it was probably flocking material.
With it came instructions on where to use it between some panels to eliminate the creaks of the interior.

Title: Re: Glove box damper
Post by: steveash on July 6, 2023, 20:11
Quote from: Dev on July  6, 2023, 18:21Toyota use to sell a noise elimination kit that looked like fake velvet and it was probably flocking material.
With it came instructions on where to use it between some panels to eliminate the creaks of the interior.



Anti-squeak tape. My Audi seems to have it on every contact point on the whole car. From the factory, it wasn't me this time!