front splitter

[peteopc]

Other than Toyota parts,can anyone suggest a front splitter for a facelift Mr2? I have looked but struggled to find anything.

[ad_car_08]

Sorry to resurrect an old post, but I'm in the same boat.
I've got a facelift Sable '2, running standard 1zz, but looking to reduce front end lift on track days. It seems to get a bit floaty on motorways too. I've made sure the two fins infront of the front wheels are still there, had 4 wheel tracking/alignment (on Meister coilovers with rear camber bolts), changed all four wheels to nearly new Toyo T1Rs... and ploughing through the forum, a front splitter seems to help remedy my issue.

I'm seeing an abundance of universal splitters, but nothing made/sculptured especially for the MR2. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

[wotugonado]

Hz dynamics sometimes has some in stock from time to time, quality seems ok from stuff I've had from them.
Otherwise chuck some extra weight in with the spare wheel, I keep a heavy socket set in mine and can really tell the difference when I take it out.

[Nvy]

Sorry to resurrect an old post, but I'm in the same boat.
I've got a facelift Sable '2, running standard 1zz, but looking to reduce front end lift on track days. It seems to get a bit floaty on motorways too. I've made sure the two fins infront of the front wheels are still there, had 4 wheel tracking/alignment (on Meister coilovers with rear camber bolts), changed all four wheels to nearly new Toyo T1Rs... and ploughing through the forum, a front splitter seems to help remedy my issue.

I'm seeing an abundance of universal splitters, but nothing made/sculptured especially for the MR2. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Read on hood ducks on 2nd generation Mr2, some ppl tilted the rad and made ducks to go though vented hood. Also i have seen a race car(i think it was rogue's car) with ducks in the same way like lotus ones. It will require to do some work with cutting the hood and so on but it will worth every minute of sweat. A careful design of the ducks will not disrupt the down force from the air
thats pushing the car to the road - for ideas have a look on ford gt hood design, there are no holes there but id design it in the same way so the two streams will join in a very natural manner. Also lotus cars are good design inspirations.

If you ever do this mod consider getting the hood things(fast and furious style) that holds it down so it will not open i dont remember the name.

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Hz dynamics sometimes has some in stock from time to time, quality seems ok from stuff I've had from them.
Otherwise chuck some extra weight in with the spare wheel, I keep a heavy socket set in mine and can really tell the difference when I take it out.

Thanks for the recommendation. Took a look on HZ's website, but really don't like the TZ/TR (whatever it is, I can't remember) front splitter. Just looking for something simple, but functional.

I've got my spare wheel in the front, but maybe need some more weight then, which is counter productive to what I'm trying to achieve? 

[jvanzyl]

Out of interest have you renewed your bushings? Lack of "feel" for what the wheels are doing can be related to poor  condition of the bushes. Basic rule of thumb is 10+ years/100k miles is the lifespan.

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I was hoping to find something like this...

[ad_car_08]

Out of interest have you renewed your bushings? Lack of "feel" for what the wheels are doing can be related to poor  condition of the bushes. Basic rule of thumb is 10+ years/100k miles is the lifespan.

I've replaced the droplinks, but that's it. ARB looks pretty rusty too, but was told that's just what they're like

[Topdownman]

Mikeymead has one on his car I believe.

Maxton make one so try googling that.

You could consider moving your battery into the froot to shift some weight forward?

[Nvy]

On our cars the air thats going through the rad is hitting the plastic wall thats created from the "cage" that the spare wheel is in annnnnnnnnnd it generates lift. Id look on splitter as a last remedy for a track oriented car.

P.S. Splitter generates down force and does not reduce lift.
P.S.2 Dont get me wrong it will help but it will not be that much that the air ducks will do. If you can afford to lose the spare tire is a no brainer mod for a track car. Also a splitter will "shoot" more air to the rad generating more lift.
P.S.3 The aero is a huge topic that u can never read enough on. Im not saying im pro or anything just giving my 2 cents here

[jvanzyl]

Out of interest have you renewed your bushings? Lack of "feel" for what the wheels are doing can be related to poor  condition of the bushes. Basic rule of thumb is 10+ years/100k miles is the lifespan.

I've replaced the droplinks, but that's it. ARB looks pretty rusty too, but was told that's just what they're like

Well I can honestly say that it's a fantastic handling upgrade/restoration to do...
You can get new arms for £70 odd delivered... ARB bushes are really easy to do yourself as well.

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[ad_car_08]

Out of interest have you renewed your bushings? Lack of "feel" for what the wheels are doing can be related to poor  condition of the bushes. Basic rule of thumb is 10+ years/100k miles is the lifespan.

I've replaced the droplinks, but that's it. ARB looks pretty rusty too, but was told that's just what they're like

Well I can honestly say that it's a fantastic handling upgrade/restoration to do...
You can get new arms for £70 odd delivered... ARB bushes are really easy to do yourself as well.

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Great, thanks! Where from??

[Call the midlife!]

I've got the Maxton one, I bought it for looks, wouldn't fit one for performance as it just screws to the bumper and there's that much flex in a standard bumper I'd be surprised if there were many actual gains in downforce.
And it whistles at motorway speeds...[emoji23]


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And it whistles at motorway speeds...[emoji23]

Hahaha!
Thanks for the feedback

[1979scotte]

Sorry to resurrect an old post, but I'm in the same boat.
I've got a facelift Sable '2, running standard 1zz, but looking to reduce front end lift on track days. It seems to get a bit floaty on motorways too. I've made sure the two fins infront of the front wheels are still there, had 4 wheel tracking/alignment (on Meister coilovers with rear camber bolts), changed all four wheels to nearly new Toyo T1Rs... and ploughing through the forum, a front splitter seems to help remedy my issue.

I'm seeing an abundance of universal splitters, but nothing made/sculptured especially for the MR2. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Sorry to go off topic.
T1R on a track day car is a strange decision.
Some people question them on the road with those soft sidewalls.
They can feel a bit floaty.
Once you wear them out I would suggest something more track orientated Yoko AD08R Toyo R888 Federal 595 Nangkang NS2R.
Also did you have the suspension aligned to Toyota spec? Fine for the road but not the best for a track car. It's a bit prone to understeer.


Edit
Also how firm is your damping set?
Coilovers can make a car feel like a boat when set too soft.

[ad_car_08]

Sorry I should've explained, my T1Rs are the road tyres. Not got my car to it's first track day yet, but have another set of rims with r888s on for when I finally get to a track!

[1979scotte]

Sorry I should've explained, my T1Rs are the road tyres. Not got my car to it's first track day yet, but have another set of rims with r888s on for when I finally get to a track!

Thank god for that tbh I thought you were nuts.
Sorry.
Carry on.

[Call the midlife!]

I'm lost now, got hung up on Simon's suggestion for the Maxton splitter knowing I have one.
You're saying you want to address front end lift on track days but haven't had it on track yet?
I missed the Meisters bit until now too, it takes a lot of perseverance to balance coilovers against the T1Rs, damping and tyre pressure wise.
You're probably going to end up having to live with some motorway "float" to get the best on the B roads from the combination you have. On undulating surfaces the suspension is always trying to deal with the last bump when it hits the next one, you'll notice it more at night as you see the headlight pattern bounce up and down.
If you drop the damping off too far you'll just be pogoing around town all the time!
Persevere with the settings, give each adjustment time to settle in before making another, it's a long game.


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[ad_car_08]

Yes, OK, not been on track yet... But firing down a stretch of a dual carriageway, the car doesn't feel planted and a bit floaty. I'm betting my bottom dollar that'll be the same on track and want to rectify it

[Call the midlife!]

Yes, OK, not been on track yet... But firing down a stretch of a dual carriageway, the car doesn't feel planted and a bit floaty. I'm betting my bottom dollar that'll be the same on track and want to rectify it

Sorry that might have come across a bit harsh, it wasn't meant to, could be any number of things causing it on the dual carriageway that you won't necessarily feel on a track. They're very susceptible to side winds being so light too think on so you can get a floaty feel from steering against that when it drops off.
Mine's felt a lot more planted on motorways since I added the braces, although I fitted the "splitter" around the same time..[emoji23]


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[wotugonado]

I'm running exactly the same set up as you, albeit with a turbo. Seriously throw some weight in the spare tyre well and take it for a spin, if it makes the difference  you should do what topdown man suggested and put the battery in the front. You're not gaining any extra weight but you've added the weight to the front where you need it. Also I have the Meister's on different settings front and back to compensate for the weight difference.