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The Workshop => Maintenance, Problems & Troubleshooting => Topic started by: Mr2paul on October 10, 2020, 17:00

Title: Steering joint replacement
Post by: Mr2paul on October 10, 2020, 17:00
Hi, before I order one I thought I'd check first with you guys and do you have any recommendations on supplier and price?   Yep it's that Yorkshire " thing" again 😄
Looks nasty to me 😟image.jpeg
Title: Re: Steering joint replacement
Post by: Gaz mr-s on October 10, 2020, 17:16
If it works ok clean it up & protect it.  Toyota ones are the best quality, but expensive.  If you don't like the price TCB do a pattern one.  Facebook messenger is probably best contact method.
Title: Re: Steering joint replacement
Post by: AdamR28 on October 10, 2020, 17:23
Looks a hell of a lot better than mine on Mr Poo! As above, if no play clean up and protect with thick grease or a boot.
Title: Re: Steering joint replacement
Post by: Mr2paul on October 10, 2020, 19:02
Thx, I'll take that advise then. Can't see any play as such but when wheel is turned I could feel the faintest of clicks, but that could come from anywhere. Thx for your inputs, I will clean up, degrease and regressed hopefully with some type of boot. 👍
Title: Re: Steering joint replacement
Post by: Mr2paul on October 10, 2020, 19:32
Ignore my last comment. After a wire brush it does show some play that I didn't see before so I'll change it. Thanks.
Title: Re: Steering joint replacement
Post by: 1979scotte on October 10, 2020, 19:46
Quote from: Mr2paul on October 10, 2020, 19:32Ignore my last comment. After a wire brush it does show some play that I didn't see before so I'll change it. Thanks.

Always best to get fresh 😌

Why are you wire brushing at 6 o'clock on a Saturday night?

Its most certainly drink o'clock.
Title: Re: Steering joint replacement
Post by: Mr2paul on October 10, 2020, 20:37
Haha, yes I no what you mean 😄 But don't want another heart attack o'clock. Don't believe the common thing that smoking is the worst,
Anyway for anyone wanting to change this joint for genuine Toyota iv seen them for sale and a bargain,   Wait for it,,,,,,, £340 only 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Title: Re: Steering joint replacement
Post by: 1979scotte on October 10, 2020, 20:41
As Gaz said TCB do a pattern part was around 80 last I looked.
Title: Re: Steering joint replacement
Post by: 1979scotte on October 10, 2020, 20:43
Or take a chance on ebay for £30
Title: Re: Steering joint replacement
Post by: Mr2paul on October 10, 2020, 20:53
 Just to wrap up this for others, tcb I found for £60, as you say, eBay £30 
Title: Re: Steering joint replacement
Post by: Mr2paul on October 10, 2020, 21:11
Got one coming from a proper auto spares shop,  £35 delivered.
Title: Re: Steering joint replacement
Post by: Joesson on October 10, 2020, 21:20
Quote from: Mr2paul on October 10, 2020, 21:11Got one coming from a proper auto spares shop,  £35 delivered.

Sharing is good.
Title: Re: Steering joint replacement
Post by: 1979scotte on October 11, 2020, 08:32
Quote from: Joesson on October 10, 2020, 21:20
Quote from: Mr2paul on October 10, 2020, 21:11Got one coming from a proper auto spares shop,  £35 delivered.

Sharing is good.

It'll be the same part as on ebay id imagine.
Title: Re: Steering joint replacement
Post by: Mr2paul on October 11, 2020, 14:39
Could be, although it's a different colour and a make. Also got a physical shop which is good. Year quarentee also so I'll give it a go.
Title: Re: Steering joint replacement
Post by: Mr Lazy on October 11, 2020, 15:33
Coincidentally, I've just been trying to replace mine and I could do with some advice. I was going to start a new thread, but then I saw this one and thought it would be more useful to post here instead.

I've got the old UJ off. It actually seems to move nice and smoothly, so perhaps my creaky steering is due to something else. Oh well, I've passed the point of no return and have a new one in my hand (so to speak) so I may as well fit it.

The trouble is that I can't get it to fit into the UJ fitting below the steering column, which should be the easiest bit of the whole job. The UJ I'm fitting in is new (a TCB part) and the part I'm fitting it to is inside the car and therefore completely free from any corrosion or dirt. I therefore thought it would just slide on, but it doesn't. I tried opening the slot with a screwdriver but it was too stiff to move. I had also contorted myself so that I was upside down with my head in the footwell and my legs sticking out the top of the car (no photos, sorry!) so everything was quite awkward. Does anyone have any tips? I'm out of ideas.
Title: Re: Steering joint replacement
Post by: Joesson on October 11, 2020, 15:46
@Mr Lazy,
Never having fitted this item I can only generalise. When I looked at mine I thought the hard part would be getting  the old one off and having examined the inside gaiter, which needs replacing, I can empathise with your contortions  necessary to get at that area.
I suggest that you are part way there with "opening the slot with a screwdriver", I would try just a light tap on the screw driver to wedge it into the slot at the bottom of the slot and open it up and leave it wedged as you start it onto the column end.
Title: Re: Steering joint replacement
Post by: Topdownman on October 11, 2020, 15:49
Quote from: Mr Lazy on October 11, 2020, 15:33Coincidentally, I've just been trying to replace mine and I could do with some advice. I was going to start a new thread, but then I saw this one and thought it would be more useful to post here instead.

I've got the old UJ off. It actually seems to move nice and smoothly, so perhaps my creaky steering is due to something else. Oh well, I've passed the point of no return and have a new one in my hand (so to speak) so I may as well fit it.

The trouble is that I can't get it to fit into the UJ fitting below the steering column, which should be the easiest bit of the whole job. The UJ I'm fitting in is new (a TCB part) and the part I'm fitting it to is inside the car and therefore completely free from any corrosion or dirt. I therefore thought it would just slide on, but it doesn't. I tried opening the slot with a screwdriver but it was too stiff to move. I had also contorted myself so that I was upside down with my head in the footwell and my legs sticking out the top of the car (no photos, sorry!) so everything was quite awkward. Does anyone have any tips? I'm out of ideas.

You havent said if you have read the "how to" so heres a link below. Afraid I have nothong to add!

https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?topic=32611.0
Title: Re: Steering joint replacement
Post by: Mr Lazy on October 11, 2020, 16:04
Thanks @Topdownman. I had read the how to beforehand, as well as viewing a useful Youtube video. Nothing much is mentioned of this though, as if it is so straightforward that it doesn't need mentioning.

@Joesson, I think the slot is too wide to wedge it in, but I'll go and take another look, thank you.
Title: Re: Steering joint replacement
Post by: Joesson on October 11, 2020, 17:01
Quote from: Mr Lazy on October 11, 2020, 16:04Thanks @Topdownman. I had read the how to beforehand, as well as viewing a useful Youtube video. Nothing much is mentioned of this though, as if it is so straightforward that it doesn't need mentioning.

@Joesson, I think the slot is too wide to wedge it in, but I'll go and take another look, thank you.
I can't recall the width of the slot but if your available screwdriver blade, a stubby would perhaps be best, is too thin a washer or a low value coin could be used to thicken it up.
Title: Re: Steering joint replacement
Post by: Mr2paul on October 11, 2020, 17:31
I assume the new one is correct, have you compared to the old ?
You no that it can only fit in one way with the column ? Apart from that iv no idea. Did the old one come out ok ? Check the new one closely for machining faults ???
Title: Re: Steering joint replacement
Post by: Mr Lazy on October 11, 2020, 18:29
It's very strange. I had another go earlier but I've given up for now. Comparing the two, the new one is painted black (which could be adding to the problem) and it doesn't have the filled in splined sections, so it could be positioned incorrectly and still go in. However, the old one, which slid out easily, was also impossible to get back in when I tried to fit it as a comparison. Since then, I have tried to prise the clamp apart further using a screwdriver with another one through the hole in the handle to give me more leverage. I could actually see the clamp prising apart slightly, bit the shaft still wouldn't go in. I don't swear online, but lets just say it's starting to annoy me.
Title: Re: Steering joint replacement
Post by: Snelbaard on October 11, 2020, 19:39
I feel your pain, replacing mine was also quite an ordeal. Anyway if you're interested in protecting your replacement steering joint, I make dust boot kits for those:

https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?topic=69674.0

(apologies for the shameless self promotion)
Title: Re: Steering joint replacement
Post by: Mr Lazy on October 11, 2020, 20:43
 ;D Slightly shameless, but I don't blame you. I'll leave it for now thanks.
Title: Re: Steering joint replacement
Post by: Mr2paul on October 14, 2020, 12:43
Hi, did you fit the joint ok ? I've just done mine, taking off was a pain but new one went on fine after a bit of prep. I can post my own experience doing this tho maybe long winded so won't unless you need some help.
Title: Re: Steering joint replacement
Post by: Mr2paul on October 21, 2020, 23:49
did this get sorted in the end ?
Title: Re: Steering joint replacement
Post by: cptspaulding on October 22, 2020, 10:16
Quote from: Mr Lazy on October 11, 2020, 18:29Comparing the two, the new one is painted black (which could be adding to the problem)

Speaking from experience, that is indeed your problem. You'll need to take a wire brush to the splines & get the paint off. My mechanic flat out refused to fit it as it basically didn't fit. Ended up taking the paint off & doing it myself. Two years later there was so much play on that knuckle it was scary so I replaced again with a genuine Mr T unit.