This is under development. We are trying to come up with something with the rigidity of a TRD brace.
It will NOT be a repro TRD one, but one of our own design. We'll keep the weight down as much as we can, but it really HAS to be steel to work with the available thread length on the top of the struts.
It will be of welded construction.
Like the TRD it WILL interfere with the frunk lid, but we are working on a hinge system. The lid WILL have to be cut, though.
We're waiting for a quote from the profile cutters, and then we'll make a couple.
THEN we'll come up with a price.
We'll post photos when ready.
This will take a little while. Patience please.
Interested.
My Cusco has nuts and bolts holding it together much prefer the solid TRD sold with my previous 2.
Can it be somehow triangular? Id be up for one too, dont like mine.
Watching with interest
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I'd be keen, although would be sad to cut the frunk Plastic. Is there really no way to do it without removing or cutting?
Quote from: jonbill on June 6, 2019, 18:02
I'd be keen, although would be sad to cut the frunk Plastic. Is there really no way to do it without removing or cutting?
You can remove it no problem but some people prefer the clean look the plastic cover provide.
You can cut it very neatly have seen it done a few times.
The froot lid is best left off IMHO.
Quote from: 1979scotte on June 6, 2019, 18:16
Quote from: jonbill on June 6, 2019, 18:02
I'd be keen, although would be sad to cut the frunk Plastic. Is there really no way to do it without removing or cutting?
You can remove it no problem but some people prefer the clean look the plastic cover provide.
You can cut it very neatly have seen it done a few times.
The froot lid is best left off IMHO.
Agreed. It's also conducive of checking you powersteering fluid and universal joint more frequently.
Looking forward to seeing what this brace will be like
Quote from: jonbill on June 6, 2019, 18:02
I'd be keen, although would be sad to cut the frunk Plastic. Is there really no way to do it without removing or cutting?
'fraid not. The plastic covers the tops of the threads. Can always get a spare on from Deano - for very very little.
watching with interest also
Also interested
Sadly I just got my TRD one but I'm interested to see what you come up with!
Quote from: Snelbaard on June 6, 2019, 21:49
Sadly I just got my TRD one but I'm interested to see what you come up with!
Nothing 'SAD' about getting your hands on left-hand drive TRD brace. Can't do better than that!
Interested to see what you do about the hinge! I would like a front strut brace but I don't think I am prepared to cannibalise the frunk compartment lid (just yet!).
Just what I need (want). I can share my moral support and complete lack of technical knowledge!
Never had a frunk lid. I thought most binned them
Interested also.
Would definitely be up for this :D
Done the sums.
We'll make a short run of six.
I don't want to have to forgo club membership by becoming a commercial supplier, so I would need guidance on this
They will be powder coated in steel grey.
I'll post a pic when we've made one.
They'll cost about £120 plus shipping.
Is that still of interest?
Quote from: Carolyn on June 12, 2019, 14:51Done the sums.
We'll make a short run of six.
I don't want to have to forgo club membership by becoming a commercial supplier, so I would need guidance on this
They will be powder coated in steel grey.
I'll post a pic when we've made one.
They'll cost about £120 plus shipping.
Is that still of interest?
Yes it is.
Would you want payment in champagne bottles? Would that circumvent becoming a commercial supplier? ;-)
No yellow option?
I suppose grey will do.
I've had an idea.
Would a £10 donation to the club for each sale help me to retain my membership status?
Still interested for sure.
Quote from: Carolyn on June 12, 2019, 16:05I've had an idea.
Would a £10 donation to the club for each sale help me to retain my membership status?
Most definitely would
Quote from: Carolyn on June 12, 2019, 16:05I've had an idea.
Would a £10 donation to the club for each sale help me to retain my membership status?
For any of the GB buys that I have set up over the years, I have always given it least 10% back to the club.
Quote from: StuC on June 12, 2019, 18:07Quote from: Carolyn on June 12, 2019, 16:05I've had an idea.
Would a £10 donation to the club for each sale help me to retain my membership status?
For any of the GB buys that I have set up over the years, I have always given it least 10% back to the club.
That's 10gbp per item Stu. That'll do donkey. If people want to contribute more....happily :)
Quote from: shnazzle on June 12, 2019, 18:19That's 10gbp per item Stu.
Yup, GroupBuyPounds! ;)
Price sounds fair to me and happy to make a club donation.
It will come out of the price. Either way - the buyer pays as always!!
Interested once I've seen the finished item.
Mark
I'm also interested.
I'm definitely in. Cash on collection do or do you want $$$s up front?
The road to hell is paved with money up front!! (Thanks for the offer, though).
Payment upon receipt is my preferred method.
I don't know the final price until I've made one. The steel and profiles only arrived today.
We'll start on the prototype tomorrow.
The £120 is an estimate.
Now we're having fun.
Nothing like having a creative project on the go.
We're still a few days away from a finished prototype, but it's starting to look like a winner...
cool cool...
wotcha doing to the supercharged one? Can't help but notice that work appears to be happening to it....
Quote from: jvanzyl on June 20, 2019, 16:00cool cool...
wotcha doing to the supercharged one? Can't help but notice that work appears to be happening to it....
A combination of a bit of fiddling about in the engine compartment and using the front compartment as a template for the brace. There's some subtle angles involved. The strut tower tops do not sit flat. Lot's of measuring, fitting, measuring, sucking teeth, coming up with solutions.
Handy having a guinea-pig car.
Quote from: Carolyn on June 20, 2019, 16:12Lot's of measuring, fitting, measuring, sucking teeth, coming up with solutions.
The distinguishing marque of the thoughful but determined engineer (also whilst holding a cuppa!).
I am positive you will come out with a good solution. :)
"Slots" in a brace you're trying to prevent flex looks like a design flaw . I'd re-think that .
Quote from: phattires on June 20, 2019, 17:01"Slots" in a brace you're trying to prevent flex looks like a design flaw . I'd re-think that .
Same as TRD.. cars are not identical. They are required for fit.
Rethink if you want....
Quote from: phattires on June 20, 2019, 17:01"Slots" in a brace you're trying to prevent flex looks like a design flaw . I'd re-think that .
Clamping force from the nuts holds it in place, not a tightly fitting hole.
I'll post a pic of my brace I'm working on .
(https://i.imgur.com/c247Meu.jpg)
Quote from: phattires on June 21, 2019, 01:23I'll post a pic of my brace I'm working on .
(https://i.imgur.com/c247Meu.jpg)
Good brace. Definitely more for track purposes though. No way the plastics or lid for cubby would fit over that
Quote from: phattires on June 21, 2019, 01:23I'll post a pic of my brace I'm working on .
(https://i.imgur.com/c247Meu.jpg)
That's a serious race conversion you're doing. You should give us a 'Reader's Ride' thread on that. Got my curiosity!!
Quote from: Carolyn on June 21, 2019, 09:44Quote from: phattires on June 21, 2019, 01:23I'll post a pic of my brace I'm working on .
(https://i.imgur.com/c247Meu.jpg)
That's a serious race conversion you're doing. You should give us a 'Reader's Ride' thread on that. Got my curiosity!!
Yes!
That definitely looks like a Reader's Ride needed.
Quote from: StuC on June 20, 2019, 16:49Quote from: Carolyn on June 20, 2019, 16:12Lot's of measuring, fitting, measuring, sucking teeth, coming up with solutions.
The distinguishing marque of the thoughful but determined engineer (also whilst holding a cuppa!).
I am positive you will come out with a good solution. :)
Meant to respond to this yesterday and got side-tracked (again!).
Yes - teeth sucking is utterly required. We're getting there.
Input required.
We'll be making decisions on powder coating shortly.
To keep the price down, they have to be done as a batch.
Colour preferences everyone? I've already got yours, Scotte.....
Bright Silver? More conservative silver/grey? Bright red?
Quote from: Carolyn on June 21, 2019, 11:53Input required.
We'll be making decisions on powder coating shortly.
To keep the price down, they have to be done as a batch.
Colour preferences everyone? I've already got yours, Scotte.....
Bright Silver? More conservative silver/grey? Bright red?
Sable of course :) not really any argument there
Quote from: Carolyn on June 21, 2019, 11:53Input required.
We'll be making decisions on powder coating shortly.
To keep the price down, they have to be done as a batch.
Colour preferences everyone? I've already got yours, Scotte.....
Bright Silver? More conservative silver/grey? Bright red?
You need something distinctive as I see this as a the beginning of a range of products that you might deliver... ;)
Colours currently used are:
TRD is sable
Ultra Racing is White
Barbarian have gone for a deep red
Cusco is Blue
General suspension struts though are:
Tein Green
Meister R are red
K Sport are orange
Yellow Speed are .. yellow
Ohlins are blue and orange..
BC are black and brass?
What about that greenish colour (pastel?) that is on the Spirit MR-S? That'd be unique to the suspension world...
Would I like to see pale green when I open the frunk?
Hard to visualise that one. One colour not mentioned and (seemingly) unique - gloss black?
David had nixed that one.
Bright whore-house red??
One vote for bright red here 👋
I'll vote red as well
Quote from: Carolyn on June 21, 2019, 14:30Would I like to see pale green when I open the frunk?
Hard to visualise that one. One colour not mentioned and (seemingly) unique - gloss black?
David had nixed that one.
Bright whore-house red??
As it is your vision, can you not dictate the colour? Lol
I don't have red on my car! .. well apart from the Polybushes...
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Quote from: StuC on June 21, 2019, 15:35Quote from: Carolyn on June 21, 2019, 14:30Would I like to see pale green when I open the frunk?
Hard to visualise that one. One colour not mentioned and (seemingly) unique - gloss black?
David had nixed that one.
Bright whore-house red??
As it is
your vision, can you not dictate the colour? Lol
Yeah but, no but...
People can be very fussy about this stuff. I'll look into how much extra for custom colours perhaps....
Quote from: jvanzyl on June 21, 2019, 15:38:(
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LOL
love that
@jvanzyl
Why did David nix black? I would think black would upset least number of peeps.
What JB said.
Would prefer sable or a grey...but as Second wish a nice red would be also great
Can I add Smarty orange for consideration please?
Quote from: The Other Stu on June 24, 2019, 09:15Can I add Smarty orange for consideration please?
Phwoar!
I like it!
OK I'm a fan of smarty orange!
Silver, blue and flashes of smarty orange will do nicely thanks!!
Black, silver or blue would be my preference, but as long as it is not something super flashy, will be ok.
Quote from: jvanzyl on June 24, 2019, 09:39OK I'm a fan of smarty orange!
Silver, blue and flashes of smarty orange will do nicely thanks!!
Veto will clash with my yellow
Quote from: 1979scotte on June 24, 2019, 22:54Quote from: jvanzyl on June 24, 2019, 09:39OK I'm a fan of smarty orange!
Silver, blue and flashes of smarty orange will do nicely thanks!!
Veto will clash with my yellow
What are you on about? Your car is black!
Quote from: jvanzyl on June 24, 2019, 22:59Quote from: 1979scotte on June 24, 2019, 22:54Quote from: jvanzyl on June 24, 2019, 09:39OK I'm a fan of smarty orange!
Silver, blue and flashes of smarty orange will do nicely thanks!!
Veto will clash with my yellow
What are you on about? Your car is black!
Yes John and the moon is purple and chocolate doesn't make you fat
I visited my powder-coaters yesterday, and looked at the colour chart. Then I asked which colours they kept in stock. Bright orange was not one of them.
For such a short initial run we must go with that which is to hand. So...
After much input from you all, and a bit more thought, it's either bright red or gloss black. Please choose from those two options and express your opinion. We will only be able to provide one colour.
On another note; below is a pic of my TRD front brace (which really DOES improve the handling of my car). It's a close-up of one of the slotted holes. You can see (if you look closely) that the bolt is at one end of the slot. That's how the brace goes on my old car!!
Thanks for trying for the Orange Carolyn!
Guess it'll be gloss black from my side...
Hmm.. Torn between red and black... I'm going for black in the engine bay and frunk.
Good pic of the TRD slots. Mine is the same. Whatever it is. Allegedly a Corky or copy of. It's very very hard to get off because it's so tight on the bolts.
Quote from: Carolyn on June 25, 2019, 11:51I visited my powder-coaters yesterday, and looked at the colour chart. Then I asked which colours they kept in stock. Bright orange was not one of them.
For such a short initial run we must go with that which is to hand. So...
After much input from you all, and a bit more thought, it's either bright red or gloss black. Please choose from those two options and express your opinion. We will only be able to provide one colour.
On another note; below is a pic of my TRD front brace (which really DOES improve the handling of my car). It's a close-up of one of the slotted holes. You can see (if you look closely) that the bolt is at one end of the slot. That's how the brace goes on my old car!!
Glad you're at least giving the slots a little thought . Wouldn't the slot being maxed out on one side only be beneficial for turning one way not both ?
As to the TRD brace improving handling I agree it does , but with that I'd also say something is better than nothing .
Quote from: phattires on June 25, 2019, 16:18Quote from: Carolyn on June 25, 2019, 11:51I visited my powder-coaters yesterday, and looked at the colour chart. Then I asked which colours they kept in stock. Bright orange was not one of them.
For such a short initial run we must go with that which is to hand. So...
After much input from you all, and a bit more thought, it's either bright red or gloss black. Please choose from those two options and express your opinion. We will only be able to provide one colour.
On another note; below is a pic of my TRD front brace (which really DOES improve the handling of my car). It's a close-up of one of the slotted holes. You can see (if you look closely) that the bolt is at one end of the slot. That's how the brace goes on my old car!!
Glad you're at least giving the slots a little thought . Wouldn't the slot being maxed out on one side only be beneficial for turning one way not both ?
As to the TRD brace improving handling I agree it does , but with that I'd also say something is better than nothing .
We gave the slots a lot of thought. Why would you think we didn't? The fact is, there are no witness marks providing evidence that the bar has moved in its slots. It's been on there several years, if there had been movement, there would be corresponding wear and evidence thereof. None are present.
Please don't respond with further argument. You've made your point.
We disagree, can we, please leave it there?
Quote from: Carolyn on June 25, 2019, 17:20Quote from: phattires on June 25, 2019, 16:18Quote from: Carolyn on June 25, 2019, 11:51I visited my powder-coaters yesterday, and looked at the colour chart. Then I asked which colours they kept in stock. Bright orange was not one of them.
For such a short initial run we must go with that which is to hand. So...
After much input from you all, and a bit more thought, it's either bright red or gloss black. Please choose from those two options and express your opinion. We will only be able to provide one colour.
On another note; below is a pic of my TRD front brace (which really DOES improve the handling of my car). It's a close-up of one of the slotted holes. You can see (if you look closely) that the bolt is at one end of the slot. That's how the brace goes on my old car!!
Glad you're at least giving the slots a little thought . Wouldn't the slot being maxed out on one side only be beneficial for turning one way not both ?
As to the TRD brace improving handling I agree it does , but with that I'd also say something is better than nothing .
We gave the slots a lot of thought. Why would you think we didn't? The fact is, there are no witness marks providing evidence that the bar has moved in its slots. It's been on there several years, if there had been movement, there would be corresponding wear and evidence thereof. None are present.
Please don't respond with further argument. You've made your point.
We disagree, can we, please leave it there?
I'd just like to politely point out that you brought it back up not me . It was not an argument just a question !!
And yes we disagree and I can leave it at that !
So, back to powder coating.
Gloss black it is.
I have a suggestion believe it or not and it's just a suggestion that work well for me . When I was selling Crash bars I would offer them 2 ways , bare metal if they wanted a color other than black and that way they didn't have to pay for PC.or they could buy it PC'd black for an upcharge , that seemed to make everyone happy . Also the PCer I was working with shot black almost everyday so he gave me a good price whether I had one or twenty at a time . That probably wouldn't happen if it was any color but black .
I'd say that's a plan! Especially if we do a bigger batch.
Right now, we're only doing six, to see how they go.
So we're taking the Henry Ford approach for now.
If it goes over well, then an un-coated option might well be a winner.
This fabrication lark is hard and dirty bloody work, isn't it?
Quote from: Carolyn on June 25, 2019, 19:01I'd say that's a plan! Especially if we do a bigger batch.
Right now, we're only doing six, to see how they go.
So we're taking the Henry Ford approach for now.
If it goes over well, then an un-coated option might well be a winner.
This fabrication lark is hard and dirty bloody work, isn't it?
Yes it is , welding is probably the worst !!
I know Henry preferred gloss black but I think semi-gloss actually looks better , can't see the imperfection as easy .
I honestly don't mind if it's bright green. It's not on show :))
Red!
Black....
The first batch of 6 is nearing....
Here is a list of expressions of genuine interest in order of appearance.
Those left out will go on a reserve list for the next batch.
Please confirm if you still want one: (Pending photographs of finished item.)
Scotte
Jonbill
Steve Ash
Potge
Other Stu
JVZ
I confirm.
I confirm!
I confirm also.
Of course I want one black please ( that means yellow really doesn't it )
@Carolyn
Not sure it's been discussed before... will it be LHD-compatible?
I can confirm (I typed conform. I definitely don't conform)
Confirmed!
Quote from: inside on July 1, 2019, 14:00Not sure it's been discussed before... will it be LHD-compatible?
Yes.
The first six are ready. Take a look before you decide.
They are not as pretty as the TRD but they ARE stiffer both in bend and twist.
The cross bar is two 25mm box sections welded side by side, diving four vertical walls to resist bending. The big overlaps onto the plate resist bending and the reinforcing ring in the centre (hard stainless) ensures minimum flex at that point.
The TRD used tube, which is fine, but not as rigid as box section. The welds are a tad 'industrial' but this is a case of function first.
Edit: Oh, final price £125 plus £10 to the club. Postage extra.
Hey Carolyn,
Just to confirm - can you slide the frunk cover in and out under the bar or is literally not usable? I hadn't realized that the cross bar wouldn't sit cockpit side of the power steering fluid.
As with the TRD brace, if you want the Frunk cover (which I do), it has to be cut. (I did point this out early on...)
I can put 5mm threaded inserts into the top of the bar, to allow for a couple of hinges.
Pics below give you an idea.
The simply is not space above the brake reservoir to allow for a strong brace in that position the wiper motor gets in the way.
Looking good!
More info.
Weight: 3.2 Kg..(TRD 3.4 Kg)
That rules Petrus out!!
If you're concerned about cutting plastics. I can get a few spares from Deano next time I go up. I'll pass them on at cost.
Or, you could just put the plastics to one side and run without (many TRD brace users do), and you'll have them intact for the future.
Stop Press. We have just trial fitted all six onto the blue car.
One has warped in the welding process and is not for for sale.
That means only five are available from this batch.
Sorry.
I'm in Carolyn even if they aren't yellow.
Quote from: Carolyn on July 2, 2019, 17:24More info.
Weight: 3.2 Kg..(TRD 3.4 Kg)
That rules Petrus out!!
Yup :-)
Actually, I would have signed up for a LHD one from the second batch if I would not have fitted one of those white ones earlier in the process. I am not particularly pleased with how it looks and the TRD replicas sure dó look the dog´s bollocks!! but is does sómething and instead of spending twice on the same, now have lighter fiber seats coming from Portugal.
Waiting for threaded inserts so I can do the hinging. I've come up with a very traditional, but elegant and reliable hinge...
I'll post pics when done.
in the meantime,
Here's how the brace and plastics go together:
plastics with brace..jpg
@Carolyn what a really neat install. Credit to you. :)
Quote from: StuC on July 3, 2019, 14:54@Carolyn what a really neat install. Credit to you. :)
Thank you. Still refining things....
Leather hinges.
Quote from: StuC on July 3, 2019, 14:54@Carolyn what a really neat install. Credit to you. :)
I must agree that does look very impressive - excellent work....
Fabulous job Carolyn, I'm very impressed. It wouldn't sway me either way, but I'm guessing they're black and its the lighting that makes them look dark green in some of the photos?
Quote from: steveash on July 3, 2019, 22:36Fabulous job Carolyn, I'm very impressed. It wouldn't sway me either way, but I'm guessing they're black and its the lighting that makes them look dark green in some of the photos?
Black. I see what you mean about the photos.
What solution did you go for regarding the frunk plastic lid? I'm keen for a front brace but ideally would like to keep the frunk lid in some useable state
Quote from: househead on July 4, 2019, 10:26What solution did you go for regarding the frunk plastic lid? I'm keen for a front brace but ideally would like to keep the frunk lid in some useable state
See page 4 of this thread.
Quote from: Carolyn on July 4, 2019, 10:46Quote from: househead on July 4, 2019, 10:26What solution did you go for regarding the frunk plastic lid? I'm keen for a front brace but ideally would like to keep the frunk lid in some useable state
See page 4 of this thread.
Apologies that I missed that. The hinges look good enough for me! What about the larger outer plastic cover, does this need to be dumped? I saw in one of those pics of the TRD brace that it was left on but it's off in all of your brace photos. I like the clean look with it on ... is there anything to consider in permanently removing it?
Thanks and good work!
Quote from: househead on July 4, 2019, 12:12Quote from: Carolyn on July 4, 2019, 10:46Quote from: househead on July 4, 2019, 10:26What solution did you go for regarding the frunk plastic lid? I'm keen for a front brace but ideally would like to keep the frunk lid in some useable state
See page 4 of this thread.
Apologies that I missed that. The hinges look good enough for me! What about the larger outer plastic cover, does this need to be dumped? I saw in one of those pics of the TRD brace that it was left on but it's off in all of your brace photos. I like the clean look with it on ... is there anything to consider in permanently removing it?
Thanks and good work!
No it's not off in all the photos. You're as bad as me!! I tend to scan things.... There's a pic with it all in place. And I much prefer it that way.
Here's the pic:
Ok, you had me at "not off in all the photos" 🤣
I can be terrible for scanning so thanks for your understanding!
I'm in the market for one of these then! Is there one of the original 6 left for grabs? If not then please take this as interest in getting one from the next run. Happy with the price and donation too!
Quote from: househead on July 4, 2019, 12:22Ok, you had me at "not off in all the photos" 🤣
I can be terrible for scanning so thanks for your understanding!
I'm in the market for one of these then! Is there one of the original 6 left for grabs? If not then please take this as interest in getting one from the next run. Happy with the price and donation too!
All of this batch are gone. I'm starting a list. When I've got six or more interested, we'll do another batch.
Quote from: Carolyn on July 4, 2019, 12:17Here's the pic:
Hi Carolyn,
In that pic it looks like the frunk plastic has the cut outs for the brace to fit but the Lid seems intact with no extra hinges, leather or otherwise. Have I missed something?
Greg
Quote from: H1GRM on July 4, 2019, 14:08Quote from: Carolyn on July 4, 2019, 12:17Here's the pic:
Hi Carolyn,
In that pic it looks like the frunk plastic has the cut outs for the brace to fit but the Lid seems intact with no extra hinges, leather or otherwise. Have I missed something?
Greg
that pic was taken before the hinges were added. The frunk lid has been cut in that pic, though.
The first batch are all spoken for.
So we're starting a new list for the next batch. If you want to be on the list:
Please copy and add your name.
1) Househead
1) Househead
2) litr0m
3)
I have to say, having driven the car with the brace now for a week it makes a real difference over bumps and into corners. Much more controlled. I've always been sceptical when people say a cheap bolt on has transformed their car, but on this occasion I think I'll join them.
It's a nice piece of kit.
Noticed the difference instantly.
Always been a fan of strut braces and this is a good one.
I had mine hand delivered to my dining table yesterday.
Has anyone else ever had such great service?
1) Househead
2) litr0m
3) Richard41
Sorry remind me what's the price for one of these in black or Toyota yellow?
Mark
I already have one (and prompt delivery and service from Carolyn).
One of the original takers didn't confirm, much to my delight!
1) litr0m
2) Richard41
£135 (which includes a £10 donation to the club).
Plus £15 p&p.
Black only at this time.
1) litr0m
2) Richard41
3) Gaz2405
One more order, and we'll make another batch.
Come on...one more to go 😊
Quote from: litr0m on August 3, 2019, 22:00Come on...one more to go 😊
Your lucky day. One more order.
1) litr0m
2) Richard41
3) Gaz2405
4) Mikeymead
Woo hoo! Let me know when you need payment Carolyn.
Looking forward to getting it!
Finally...say when and how much you Need. I will pay via PayPal 😁
All who want one from this batch, please PM me with your email address.
I only take payment when it's in the post. I won't start on these 'till next week, so expect about three weeks to get them...
Is it too late to put my name down please?
Quote from: ThePhilSProject on August 6, 2019, 16:47Is it too late to put my name down please?
No it's not too late. I'm doing six, four are spoken for. You make number five....
1) litr0m
2) Richard41
3) Gaz2405
4) Mikeymead
5) The PhilSProject
A little feedback if I may :)
I know it sounds funny, because I only fitted it on Saturday, but I actually forgot it was going to handle a little differently when I took her out on Monday night.
Definitely has an improved, less flexible feel. Car does what I tell it to do with a lot more certainty.
What it has made me realise is that I should a) look at a rear brace and b) should have bought some of those engine shock mounts. If someone can bump me the thread, I'll see if I can make my own.
@The Other Stu That's kinda confirming one of my fears. That adding a great front brace will lead to chasing braces everywhere else on the car!
Quote from: The Other Stu on August 7, 2019, 13:55A little feedback if I may :)
I know it sounds funny, because I only fitted it on Saturday, but I actually forgot it was going to handle a little differently when I took her out on Monday night.
Definitely has an improved, less flexible feel. Car does what I tell it to do with a lot more certainty.
What it has made me realise is that I should a) look at a rear brace and b) should have bought some of those engine shock mounts. If someone can bump me the thread, I'll see if I can make my own.
Don't worry too much if you have a mid brace.
I liked my TRD rear but it didn't make that much difference I think you need coilovers to tell.
Quote from: The Other Stu on August 7, 2019, 13:55A little feedback if I may :)
I know it sounds funny, because I only fitted it on Saturday, but I actually forgot it was going to handle a little differently when I took her out on Monday night.
Definitely has an improved, less flexible feel. Car does what I tell it to do with a lot more certainty.
What it has made me realise is that I should a) look at a rear brace and b) should have bought some of those engine shock mounts. If someone can bump me the thread, I'll see if I can make my own.
The best bang for the buck, is to tigerseal your fore and aft engine mounts. Less vibration and more positive gear change...
Glad you like the brace, though!! Back strut brace - not so much. I have a TRD, well engineered, but little noticeable difference with it on or off the car.
This is what you could have :)
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My name is down for one of those!
1) litr0m
2) Richard41
3) Gaz2405
4) Mikeymead
5) The PhilSProject
6) Househead.
That's all six spoken for.
Hang on. I have a brace :) it's a set of hinges I want :)
AH... I'll sort a set for you £15 ok?
Quote from: Carolyn on August 8, 2019, 22:22AH... I'll sort a set for you £15 ok?
Done deal!
Quote from: shnazzle on August 8, 2019, 17:31This is what you could have :)
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Must be Helen's car it doesn't look all.... bodged! ;)
Looks like it's meant to be there! Nice install fella. :D
I agree with
@1979scotte original colour choice. A yellow strut contrasting in there would look just dandy. 8)
1) litr0m
2) Richard41
3) Gaz2405
4) Mikeymead
5) The PhilSProject
6) ??
Quote from: 1979scotte on August 7, 2019, 17:36Quote from: The Other Stu on August 7, 2019, 13:55A little feedback if I may :)
I know it sounds funny, because I only fitted it on Saturday, but I actually forgot it was going to handle a little differently when I took her out on Monday night.
Definitely has an improved, less flexible feel. Car does what I tell it to do with a lot more certainty.
What it has made me realise is that I should a) look at a rear brace and b) should have bought some of those engine shock mounts. If someone can bump me the thread, I'll see if I can make my own.
Don't worry too much if you have a mid brace.
I liked my TRD rear but it didn't make that much difference I think you need coilovers to tell.
If we are talking of a rear brace from turret to turret I cannot see how that would improve on the standard brace. If you look at most forms of bracing (bridges etc) they run diagonally just like the standard one in our cars.
Am I missing something? Greg
Quote from: H1GRM on August 9, 2019, 08:15Quote from: 1979scotte on August 7, 2019, 17:36Quote from: The Other Stu on August 7, 2019, 13:55A little feedback if I may :)
I know it sounds funny, because I only fitted it on Saturday, but I actually forgot it was going to handle a little differently when I took her out on Monday night.
Definitely has an improved, less flexible feel. Car does what I tell it to do with a lot more certainty.
What it has made me realise is that I should a) look at a rear brace and b) should have bought some of those engine shock mounts. If someone can bump me the thread, I'll see if I can make my own.
Don't worry too much if you have a mid brace.
I liked my TRD rear but it didn't make that much difference I think you need coilovers to tell.
If we are talking of a rear brace from turret to turret I cannot see how that would improve on the standard brace. If you look at most forms of bracing (bridges etc) they run diagonally just like the standard one in our cars.
Am I missing something? Greg
well... yes... but... While the triangulated bracing makes sense, a brace straight across stops what's known as lozenging. However in the case of our engine bays, they are already pretty rigid from side to side, with the massive sub-frame, the upper cross-member above the silencer, and the firewall. That tubular brace really would not have any affect to pure -side-to-side movement (lozenging), as it's only two sides of the triangle.
Fine, I'll take the last one :)
Quote from: Carolyn on August 9, 2019, 05:431) litr0m
2) Richard41
3) Gaz2405
4) Mikeymead
5) The PhilSProject
6) inside
Btw, did we had any install on LHD car?
No we have not tried it on an LHD car. But, having looked at the TRD brace for LHD, this one should fit no problem.
'Hinges': Well they aren't really hinges per se, they are bridging plates that allow the frunk lid to hinge.
I'd like to make these in batches too.
Please put your name down if you want these sent. For buyers of the second batch of braces, I can post them in the packaging for the brace.
£15 extra, I'm afraid....
Hinges...
1. househead
;D
Looks nice but i will throw it Away anyway;)
Have to say, my 'Carolyn brand' strut brace makes quite a noticeable difference. My facelift car has no other additional bracing but does have Miester R coilies so the difference is probably magnified. I've had it on the car but it was only until last night that I could give it a proper test. From day one I could feel a difference over rougher roads and had noticed my mirror wobble had gone. When pushing on I have to say there is a clear difference. I find the car far more confidence inspiring.
Many thanks Carolyn and David. Your hard work has proved well worth it.
Quote from: steveash on August 14, 2019, 16:35Have to say, my 'Carolyn brand' strut brace makes quite a noticeable difference. My facelift car has no other additional bracing but does have Miester R coilies so the difference is probably magnified. I've had it on the car but it was only until last night that I could give it a proper test. From day one I could feel a difference over rougher roads and had noticed my mirror wobble had gone. When pushing on I have to say there is a clear difference. I find the car far more confidence inspiring.
Many thanks Carolyn and David. Your hard work has proved well worth it.
Thanks for that endorsement, Steve. Very gratifying.
@Carolyn when will the next batch be ready for shipping O:-) can't await mine...
Quote from: litr0m on August 15, 2019, 10:06@Carolyn when will the next batch be ready for shipping O:-) can't await mine...
Sometime next week.
Yay ;D
Just delivered to the powder-coaters. They're backlogged. So I'll be getting them back on Friday.
They will go out soon after that.
Right. They're back from the powder coaters.
They can go out on Monday.
Addresses, please and email contact.
If you want hinge plates, please say so, so I can put them in the package.
Just had a visit from Richard 41. What a lovely feller! Typical club member.
He's got a quite high mileage black facelift that is a real little beauty. It's living proof that condition is everything.
Anyway. We fitted a brace and sorted his frunk plastics. Job well done.
Richard took it for a drive and was happy with the result.
Thank you Richard!
Thank you so much!
It looks great & not having had any extra bracing before today really noticed the difference driving home, all feels a bit tighter, plus smoother over pot holes/speed bumps etc.
Got stuck behind quite a lot of slow traffic heading home so need to find some twisty roads this week, could feel the benefit at a few roundabouts ;) ;D
Hi Richard, now aren't you pleased you kept it after that idiot ran into the back of you? Result today. :)
Still needs some work on the back but yes very glad I kept it ;D
All being well I'm off to do North Coast 500 at the end of next month, didn't think I would doing that 6 months ago!
Brace has just arrived, may pop it on tonight and compare to my trd one.
Woo hoo!
My brace arrived also today and is allready installed. Couldn't Test ist but the Quality is astonishing and fits Perfect. Unfortunatelly i cut out to much material from the plastic 😂
Quote from: litr0m on August 29, 2019, 18:55My brace arrived also today and is allready installed. Couldn't Test ist but the Quality is astonishing and fits Perfect. Unfortunatelly i cut out to much material from the plastic 😂
I made a similar mistake down to a measuring error... DOH
I agree the quality is excellent. I've also had a chance to test mine now and cornering is even more lovely than before and definitely more rigidity going over bumps. Very happy.
This alongside
@Snelbaard breastplate and
@Dev door bushes and I'm now fully braced-up!
I made that mistake as well, sadly.
Also thanks for the shout out Househead! Much appreciated.
2 hrs in the car yesterday, first time on lots of twisty roads, just started second part of advanced driving course so got quite a good work out!
Really like how it feels more rigid & planted in the bends, still the same rattly old car ;D but does soak up most of potholes & bumps so much better.
Big thumbs up from me.
Quote from: litr0m on August 29, 2019, 18:55Unfortunatelly i cut out to much material from the plastic 😂
Simply take the whole lot out so it stays unmolested.
Quote from: Richard41 on August 30, 2019, 07:232 hrs in the car yesterday, first time on lots of twisty roads, just started second part of advanced driving course so got quite a good work out!
Really like how it feels more rigid & planted in the bends, still the same rattly old car ;D but does soak up most of potholes & bumps so much better.
Big thumbs up from me.
I've got another plastic.... or two... thought this might happen.
If it helps, here's how I cut mine out without disaster:
First,
Batter the plastics with a rubber mallet where you know the strut top studs are so they make an impression on the under side of the plastics.
Then take the plastics off and drill m10 where the 3 stud imprints are, on each side.
Then put the plastics back on with the strut studs poking through and you can lay the brace on over the studs and draw round it.
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The take it off and cut it out.
Quote from: jonbill on August 30, 2019, 17:36If it helps, here's how I cut mine out without disaster:
First,
Batter the plastics with a rubber mallet where you know the strut top studs are so they make an impression on the under side of the plastics.
Then take the plastics off and drill m10 where the 3 stud imprints are, on each side.
Then put the plastics back on with the strut studs poking through and you can lay the brace on over the studs and draw round it.
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The take it off and cut it out.
Damn, I wish I had thought of that.
That's not a bad (if brutal) method.
I did provide instructions for doing it by measuring one point on each side, marking those on the plastic, and using those to position the brace and trace around it.
Of course, one must measure accurately.
Quote from: jonbill on August 30, 2019, 17:36If it helps, here's how I cut mine out without disaster:
First,
Batter the plastics with a rubber mallet where you know the strut top studs are so they make an impression on the under side of the plastics.
Then take the plastics off and drill m10 where the 3 stud imprints are, on each side.
Then put the plastics back on with the strut studs poking through and you can lay the brace on over the studs and draw round it.
DSC_0262.JPG
The take it off and cut it out.
Difficult to better/ batter that method.
Quote from: Carolyn on August 30, 2019, 17:45That's not a bad (if brutal) method.
I did provide instructions for doing it by measuring one point on each side, marking those on the plastic, and using those to position the brace and trace around it.
Of course, one must measure accurately.
There where no such Instruction in my package...
Attached to your email, buddy....
Quote from: Carolyn on August 30, 2019, 19:55Attached to your email, buddy....
... thánk you. Grrrrr.
Just spat beer on my screen.
Hi Carolyn,
Me again! Just posted on your under-body brace, if you can put me down for one of these also, that would be great. Again, as this is my second post I understand if you'd require some kind of deposit.
Will there be another run of these please? 😁