Hi,
These few posts are dedicated to the Sony XAV - AX100 Head unit - it's fits in place of the Original Pre-Facelift unit. If you've got a single did, then jusy get hold of the surround for the Pre Facelift from Dean or Dick - cost you about £30 to £40... but well worth it.
So, I wanted to replace my head unit, i've had several over the last 18 years of ownership - a single Din Unit - Yes thats right, my car came originally from Europe, so I didn't get the Toyota UK Sony Double Din unit, but Toyota when I registered it in the UK sent me a single DIN unit and install kit for FREE. Thank you....
Moving on, i've had several units including Sony DAB (Original DAB before most people knew what it was), then Alpine (I wanted Ipod Control) then back to Sony for a great single DIN unit and then finally I decided I wanted a Double Din Unit.
The Full Screen units have moved on and I wanted access to Apple Car Play (it does come with Android Auto as well).
I took my time researching the different units, Kenwood, Alpine or Pioneer - All units i've owed in the past.... the Sony won out, party because I've got the Remote Stalk for it from years ago - the RM - X4S - wired.
Now the Unit I chose, was originally around £600, far too much for my budget, so when I found it via Amazon for £299.00 I thought... hmmm... interesting....
It required a couple of updates when it arrived and subsequently it's needed an update, which has made it boot faster and removed the need to press the Accept button because it has a screen on, it automatically goes off after 5 seconds or so...
The unit is great - easy to use, with some physical buttons and rotary volume knob... Then the buttons for Car Play are large and easy to prod when driving.
also the apps are pretty good and will get better with IOS 12....
below on the images you will see the unit.
1. With Cover and Remote
2. Off
3. Turn on - You can add a load screen - i resized a nice promo shot of the MR2
4. Turned on - with Standard Controls
5. Turned on - with Apple Car Play Buttons
6. Apple Maps
7. Music
8. BBC iplayer
9. Other Apps
SO things to note - the unit will use your data on your phone if you allow it... this was brilliant for me, the aerial of the MR2 is A. Huge and i've had birds hit it before and B. the reception on an 18 year old car isn't brilliant.... So being able to feed all the radio stations you need and also play all the music you want over data is perfect - i've got 45GB for less than £15 a month, you won't use that amount, but don't try running it with 500mb data allowance, you'll be disappointed lol.
Finally the Sound - it's great the MR2 isn't best acoustically but I have this unit in another vehicle as well and the added amplification is noticeable and as you would expect from Sony, the sound is very nice..
So enjoy the pictures and for anyone seeking to upgrade, get Digital Quality Sound and have a lovely useable screen.... then just buy this, or similar, it's a no brainer....
Kindest Regards
Darren
More Pictures..
More Pictures...
Note the unit doesn't come with a remote - if you want the stalk, a hand held one or a IR one, you'll need to search, find and buy it, just to clarify.
Also the Standard Aerial - I've taken the relay out and haven't even bothered to plug it into the head unit, as everything can be accessed via the apps and data, there is no need to use FM or need to move to DAB, as long as you have a data signal 3G / 4G you'll be fine.
Kindest Regards
Darren
Darren, looks great!
I fitted the XAV AX200 this weekend (same unit but with a CD/DVD slot) - all wired in fine (once I figured out I need to take the cage off it!).
Temporarily mounted the mic in the coin holder but will drill a hole there for the wire to go through before sticking it down, iPod/USB Cable comes out under the centre console but will route it up the dash once i get a phone holder.
I have a post facelift car so the surround I have doesn't fit the Sony Unit (I've just stuck on the once that came with the Sony just now) but I assume if I can get a PFL one it would?
Quote from: chrismscotland on August 26, 2018, 23:03
Darren, looks great!
I fitted the XAV AX200 this weekend (same unit but with a CD/DVD slot) - all wired in fine (once I figured out I need to take the cage off it!).
Temporarily mounted the mic in the coin holder but will drill a hole there for the wire to go through before sticking it down, iPod/USB Cable comes out under the centre console but will route it up the dash once i get a phone holder.
I have a post facelift car so the surround I have doesn't fit the Sony Unit (I've just stuck on the once that came with the Sony just now) but I assume if I can get a PFL one it would?
If you can get a surround from a PFL then yes, it would fit. Alternatively there are 'wings' which fill the gap at the edges so you can use your FL surround. The wings are probably easier to get
Something like these - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00T5IOFOA/?coliid=I224QO10UPT1TM&colid=JDBSVSK3PRBI&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
Or these - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000K52CY2/?coliid=I24MW6OSWZQ98X&colid=JDBSVSK3PRBI&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
As for mic location - each to their own. I fitted mine in the instrument binnacle by the rev counter. It seems to channel my voice straight into it, so sounds well the other end even at motorway speeds with the roof down. I just popped the shroud off to run the wire in behind. I do have a pic somewhere - I'll see if I can find it and post up
Quote from: chrismscotland on August 26, 2018, 23:03
Darren, looks great!
I fitted the XAV AX200 this weekend (same unit but with a CD/DVD slot) - all wired in fine (once I figured out I need to take the cage off it!).
Temporarily mounted the mic in the coin holder but will drill a hole there for the wire to go through before sticking it down, iPod/USB Cable comes out under the centre console but will route it up the dash once i get a phone holder.
I have a post facelift car so the surround I have doesn't fit the Sony Unit (I've just stuck on the once that came with the Sony just now) but I assume if I can get a PFL one it would?
Chris - Great Choice. For the Mic, mine is positioned in the Rev counter, no drilling, just pull the Boni Le off, three the wire through and it's really neat, hidden and works great, plus it's shielded if you have the roof off.
As for the surround - get one off Dean Rozier , I paid £40and he through in the old Sony double dim plus stealth front as well.
As for the connector, I drilled a small hole for my previous iPod connector into the glove box, put a grommit on it and now put my phone in the glove box and just use the Sony when in the car, saves me from the penalty points brigade.
I'll post a couple more pictures up about the mic and glovebox.
Pleased your happy with the install.
D :)
Quote from: Justin.D on August 27, 2018, 06:56
Quote from: chrismscotland on August 26, 2018, 23:03
Darren, looks great!
I fitted the XAV AX200 this weekend (same unit but with a CD/DVD slot) - all wired in fine (once I figured out I need to take the cage off it!).
Temporarily mounted the mic in the coin holder but will drill a hole there for the wire to go through before sticking it down, iPod/USB Cable comes out under the centre console but will route it up the dash once i get a phone holder.
I have a post facelift car so the surround I have doesn't fit the Sony Unit (I've just stuck on the once that came with the Sony just now) but I assume if I can get a PFL one it would?
If you can get a surround from a PFL then yes, it would fit. Alternatively there are 'wings' which fill the gap at the edges so you can use your FL surround. The wings are probably easier to get
Something like these - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00T5IOFOA/?coliid=I224QO10UPT1TM&colid=JDBSVSK3PRBI&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
Or these - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000K52CY2/?coliid=I24MW6OSWZQ98X&colid=JDBSVSK3PRBI&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
As for mic location - each to their own. I fitted mine in the instrument binnacle by the rev counter. It seems to channel my voice straight into it, so sounds well the other end even at motorway speeds with the roof down. I just popped the shroud off to run the wire in behind. I do have a pic somewhere - I'll see if I can find it and post up
Great minds... exactly how I have mine, works a treat.
Cheers
Darren
Finally got my surround fitted today, delighted with the XAV-200 seems a great unit, Sony Remote Arrived too and is all plumbed in.
You mention the "stealth front" does that fit ok with the Sony unit?
Hi,
Yes but you need to get your dremmal out and remove some of the plastic inside the stealth cover.
Couple of minutes and some duck tape / insulation tape to cover up any sharp edges and your sorted... don't want to damage that lovey 6.4" screen 👍
Hi Darren, just been reading your post and viewing your pics re the install of the Sony Headunit. I've just installed the Sony XAV 1000 in my fl MR2 but it appears to sit too far forward so when I put the pfl radio surround on there is a gap behind it. Looking at your pics, the stereo sits further back, did you use the standard radio brackets to secure the Headunit and did you have to modify them?
Apologies for replying to an older post but any help would be appreciated
Thanks
Hi Darren, what sim plan are you using, lucky if I can find 10G data at £15 ::)
Quote from: MR2crisis on January 14, 2019, 18:05
Hi Darren, just been reading your post and viewing your pics re the install of the Sony Headunit. I've just installed the Sony XAV 1000 in my fl MR2 but it appears to sit too far forward so when I put the pfl radio surround on there is a gap behind it. Looking at your pics, the stereo sits further back, did you use the standard radio brackets to secure the Headunit and did you have to modify them?
Apologies for replying to an older post but any help would be appreciated
Thanks
Hi Fella,
No modifications, I just took everything out, then bolted in the new unit, I didn't use the cage, it wasn't necessary.... off the top of my head I got the PFL surround off Dean and then went to work, not sure it that had brackets on, possibly, but I didn't have to do anything special at all.
Weird your's is sitting too far forward - are you sure you put the screws in the correct mounting holes, as it shouldn't fit proud...
without taking mine to bits again, it's hard to remember exactly, but I was very straight forward....
Maybe worth, taking apart and just checking, i'm sure it's something simple you have done.
Cheers
Darren
Quote from: moredun on January 14, 2019, 20:02
Hi Darren, what sim plan are you using, lucky if I can find 10G data at £15 ::)
Hi,
my plan is with Virgin Media - I get 45GB of Data plus Roll over of 20GB a month if I haven't used all my data, so pretty much I get 65GB a month...
Price for SIM plan.... £18 (bought via quidco, got £49 back), so makes the plan equivalent of £15 a month.....
you also get 5,000 mins (83.3 hrs!) and Unlimited Texts...
4G and runs off the back of EE, so pretty good... only thing you loose from EE is Wi-Fi Calling...
Hope this helps.
Cheers
Darren
Have you considered Giff Gaff, they use the O2 network and offer various contract free deals.
Quote from: darrenjuggins on January 14, 2019, 21:48
Quote from: MR2crisis on January 14, 2019, 18:05
Hi Darren, just been reading your post and viewing your pics re the install of the Sony Headunit. I've just installed the Sony XAV 1000 in my fl MR2 but it appears to sit too far forward so when I put the pfl radio surround on there is a gap behind it. Looking at your pics, the stereo sits further back, did you use the standard radio brackets to secure the Headunit and did you have to modify them?
Apologies for replying to an older post but any help would be appreciated
Thanks
Hi Fella,
No modifications, I just took everything out, then bolted in the new unit, I didn't use the cage, it wasn't necessary.... off the top of my head I got the PFL surround off Dean and then went to work, not sure it that had brackets on, possibly, but I didn't have to do anything special at all.
Weird your's is sitting too far forward - are you sure you put the screws in the correct mounting holes, as it shouldn't fit proud...
without taking mine to bits again, it's hard to remember exactly, but I was very straight forward....
Maybe worth, taking apart and just checking, i'm sure it's something simple you have done.
Cheers
Darren
Thanks for replying Darren, spent an hour last night trying to fit the brackets a different way but they would only fit in one position. Not one to admit defeat, I decided to modify the brackets, so 4 holes and some filing later, new head unit installed securely in the correct place!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190115/4429696b938c7c0c6996cdd4a7656285.jpg)
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Quote from: darrenjuggins on January 14, 2019, 21:48
Quote from: MR2crisis on January 14, 2019, 18:05
Hi Darren, just been reading your post and viewing your pics re the install of the Sony Headunit. I've just installed the Sony XAV 1000 in my fl MR2 but it appears to sit too far forward so when I put the pfl radio surround on there is a gap behind it. Looking at your pics, the stereo sits further back, did you use the standard radio brackets to secure the Headunit and did you have to modify them?
Apologies for replying to an older post but any help would be appreciated
Thanks
Hi Fella,
No modifications, I just took everything out, then bolted in the new unit, I didn't use the cage, it wasn't necessary.... off the top of my head I got the PFL surround off Dean and then went to work, not sure it that had brackets on, possibly, but I didn't have to do anything special at all.
Weird your's is sitting too far forward - are you sure you put the screws in the correct mounting holes, as it shouldn't fit proud...
without taking mine to bits again, it's hard to remember exactly, but I was very straight forward....
Maybe worth, taking apart and just checking, i'm sure it's something simple you have done.
Cheers
Darren
Hi,
if you purchased before the 31st Jan - Virgin are doing a £20 - 120GB! Data, Unlimited Calls, Texts!!! Mental... but true... you could replace your home BB with this amount of data available lol :)
Quote from: MR2crisis on January 15, 2019, 14:58
Quote from: darrenjuggins on January 14, 2019, 21:48
Quote from: MR2crisis on January 14, 2019, 18:05
Hi Darren, just been reading your post and viewing your pics re the install of the Sony Headunit. I've just installed the Sony XAV 1000 in my fl MR2 but it appears to sit too far forward so when I put the pfl radio surround on there is a gap behind it. Looking at your pics, the stereo sits further back, did you use the standard radio brackets to secure the Headunit and did you have to modify them?
Apologies for replying to an older post but any help would be appreciated
Thanks
Hi Fella,
No modifications, I just took everything out, then bolted in the new unit, I didn't use the cage, it wasn't necessary.... off the top of my head I got the PFL surround off Dean and then went to work, not sure it that had brackets on, possibly, but I didn't have to do anything special at all.
Weird your's is sitting too far forward - are you sure you put the screws in the correct mounting holes, as it shouldn't fit proud...
without taking mine to bits again, it's hard to remember exactly, but I was very straight forward....
Maybe worth, taking apart and just checking, i'm sure it's something simple you have done.
Cheers
Darren
Thanks for replying Darren, spent an hour last night trying to fit the brackets a different way but they would only fit in one position. Not one to admit defeat, I decided to modify the brackets, so 4 holes and some filing later, new head unit installed securely in the correct place!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190115/4429696b938c7c0c6996cdd4a7656285.jpg)
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Looks Great - Well done the unit looks great, enjoy getting used to it.... it's got some power, next you'll be changing the speakers, or at least padding the doors to stop them rattling.
Enjoy...
Cheers
Darren
I've had the bracket issues as well with my unit,where it wouldn't sit back enough. Basically I had to get creative and make some new holes. It worked.
Quote from: shnazzle on January 15, 2019, 18:22
I've had the bracket issues as well with my unit,where it wouldn't sit back enough. Basically I had to get creative and make some new holes. It worked.
Glad I wasn't the only one, thought I was going mad when I couldn't get the brackets to fit! :D Yes the "new holes modification" worked a treat for me too!
Out of curiosity, is there a difference between fl and pfl radio brackets? Just wondering as my car is a fl and I had to source brackets from the ever reliable Mr Sloan. The only thing I can think off is that I was using pfl brackets in a fl car? :-\
The original outer frame is missing on mine, but I'm still confused whether it needs to be fl or pfl (or if they are both the same?) and what else is needed to fix my single DIN head unit in place. And this thread has done nothing to make that any clearer, lol.
I've got to say, that Sony unit looks awesome, well played that man!
Quote from: darrenjuggins on January 15, 2019, 17:04
if you purchased before the 31st Jan - Virgin are doing a £20 - 120GB! Data, Unlimited Calls, Texts!!! Mental... but true... you could replace your home BB with this amount of data available lol :)
120Gig would last me about 2 days tops ....
Ha ha
I thought I was a heavy user at home, think I get through a couple of Tera Bites, but for most mortals 120GB a month would work for the phone and home.
Cheers
Darren
Quote from: Davey P on January 16, 2019, 07:34
The original outer frame is missing on mine, but I'm still confused whether it needs to be fl or pfl (or if they are both the same?) and what else is needed to fix my single DIN head unit in place. And this thread has done nothing to make that any clearer, lol.
I've got to say, that Sony unit looks awesome, well played that man!
FL and PFL surrounds are very different. If you look at the above photo of Darren's radio, that is a PFL surround, and in my opinion looks the best.
If you look at the same photo and look at the cup holder / ashtray part, there is a surround around that area - that is the same as the FL surround, and you will notice that is bigger than the radio. You then need a couple of in fill parts to bridge the gaps. I'll try find a photo of what that looks like.
Quote from: tricky1138 on January 16, 2019, 10:43
Quote from: Davey P on January 16, 2019, 07:34
The original outer frame is missing on mine, but I'm still confused whether it needs to be fl or pfl (or if they are both the same?) and what else is needed to fix my single DIN head unit in place. And this thread has done nothing to make that any clearer, lol.
I've got to say, that Sony unit looks awesome, well played that man!
FL and PFL surrounds are very different. If you look at the above photo of Darren's radio, that is a PFL surround, and in my opinion looks the best.
If you look at the same photo and look at the cup holder / ashtray part, there is a surround around that area - that is the same as the FL surround, and you will notice that is bigger than the radio. You then need a couple of in fill parts to bridge the gaps. I'll try find a photo of what that looks like.
Thanks very much mate, that would be a great help. I've seen the 2 plastic end pieces for sale on ebay & Amazon, and mine has already got a single DIN fascia plate thingy fitted, but it's still a mystery to me how it all fits together. I think I might also need a different fascia plate, as the ones I've seen have got a separate cubby hole under the head unit, whereas mine has got the stereo located in the middle of a plate, which also looks wrong.
I was hoping to get a complete assembly with all the parts I need from Rutland MR2, but after a few Facebook messages I am still no closer to that. I think it might be easier to just go down to see him and explain what I need face to face... But in the meantime, I really appreciate you guys taking the time to explain things, cheers.
Finally found a photo showing the FL surround and the infill bits.
Can't find any photos of when I had a single din one in, but I do remember it sitting at the top of area, with a cubby underneath.
If you try eBay for "mr2 single din radio adaptor" it should show up what you need, if you're sticking with the single din. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190116/16a21e33bfb2836d27d49335a01430ac.jpg)
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Quote from: tricky1138 on January 16, 2019, 13:12
Finally found a photo showing the FL surround and the infill bits.
Can't find any photos of when I had a single din one in, but I do remember it sitting at the top of area, with a cubby underneath.
If you try eBay for "mr2 single din radio adaptor" it should show up what you need, if you're sticking with the single din. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190116/16a21e33bfb2836d27d49335a01430ac.jpg)
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That is perfect, thanks very much for taking the time to post this mate, I really appreciate it.
I might be tempted to change for a double DIN unit like yours at a later date now I can see how brilliant it looks, but I think my existing Pioneer unit will be good enough for now. I haven't checked out the Bluetooth functionality yet, but if I can get the hands-free calling to work OK - and assuming I can play MP3's via a memory stick in the Aux input at the front - that will do nicely. I generally drive without the stereo on anyway, it's just annoying to see the gaps around the head unit, so I want to get it done ASAP. The rest of the interior is pretty clean, but this is letting it down a bit.
Quote from: Davey P on January 16, 2019, 14:02
Quote from: tricky1138 on January 16, 2019, 13:12
Finally found a photo showing the FL surround and the infill bits.
Can't find any photos of when I had a single din one in, but I do remember it sitting at the top of area, with a cubby underneath.
If you try eBay for "mr2 single din radio adaptor" it should show up what you need, if you're sticking with the single din. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190116/16a21e33bfb2836d27d49335a01430ac.jpg)
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That is perfect, thanks very much for taking the time to post this mate, I really appreciate it.
I might be tempted to change for a double DIN unit like yours at a later date now I can see how brilliant it looks, but I think my existing Pioneer unit will be good enough for now. I haven't checked out the Bluetooth functionality yet, but if I can get the hands-free calling to work OK - and assuming I can play MP3's via a memory stick in the Aux input at the front - that will do nicely. I generally drive without the stereo on anyway, it's just annoying to see the gaps around the head unit, so I want to get it done ASAP. The rest of the interior is pretty clean, but this is letting it down a bit.
No problem mate. Think this was the one I used for the single DIN:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOYOTA-MR2-ROADSTER-CD-RADIO-STEREO-FASCIA-FACIA-PANEL-FITTING-KIT-FP-11-03/282567497281?hash=item41ca55d641:g:MJAAAOSwY3dac3QM:rk:8:pf:0
Hi,
Pleased the post is helping people (sorry if it's confusing).
If it helps I'll explain a little...
Once upon a time Toyota brought out the MR2 Roadster... in the UK all UK purchased Roadster know as PFL now came with a double din Sony unit and surround that followed its contours... looked great....
Then when they facelifted the car in 2003, they decided to put a Toyota own make unit it, it was sort of double din, but specific to Toyota....
These are commonly know as the fisher price units.... in the FL models...
Imported from Europe models came with a black space, like mine did (it was imported from Belgium).
I had a single did unit fitted (FOC) by my local Toyota dealer (very nice people)...
So I have the the single did kit from toyota, the same as shown earlier by one of the member (but with a double din in it and the pen holder removed from the bottom).
All you need to move from single din to double for a FL car is the PFL surround and the stereo as well if you can from someone like Dean or Dick, this way you get the mounting brackets and the surround... just take the old Sony Stereo out of the surround and mounts and replace it with your new unit and then fit... (like mine at the beginning of the thread).
I think people have maybe struggle or had to modify things because they just got the front surround not the mounting brackets from the original double din Sony unit (I'd be racking my brains why mine was such a straight forward install compared to others and I think that is why, as I got the PFL surround with the stereo from Dean as opposed to just the surround).
I hope this helps to explain things ?
Having the double din in makes a huge difference in terms of looks and with car play it just makes the unit a dream to use....
Hope this makes sense, I've written on my mobile so apologies if I've made some errors.
Cheers
Darren
Totally makes sense and sorry if we've hijacked your thread.
How are you getting on with your radio after a few days of use?
I'm totally considering getting one, but just wondering how you find it in day to day use, as a few have complained that the screen is too low to see and operate?
Hi,
I've had mine in since middle of last year, I think the other poster on the thread has recently fitted his unit, which is a similar model.
My experience is it's brilliant, I found it that good I bought another one and fitted it to my Civic Type R (FN2).
I ran the lead into the glove box (drilled a small hole) so just connect the phone and up pops Car Play for me....
Mapping is great now with Waze, Apple Maps and Google Maps working....
The big buttons offered by car play allow easy low distraction use...
I use BBC Radio Player, Tunein Radio Apple Music plus any other Car Play enables App I can find....
The unit is very cleared, I can discount halfway through listening to a show on Radio Player and when I plug back in, it remembers and carry's on (it's like magic).
As for the position, I don't mind it, with the physical volume button and the big buttons on screen it works fine.
The addition of the Stalk remote (good luck finding a used one) it's even better as you can control volume, track selection, att (sound reduction) and many other features in a multi function stalk (unfortunately this isn't included)
As for price - £300 for my model and now they have added / modified the range, like the one the other poster has included....
Check out amazon, £300 for the unit is a steal compared to its original price.
It's also got some power, so works great combined with good speakers and the correct sound insulation... the MR2 has never had great acoustics, but with a little bit of patience and padding, they can sound nice.
Cheers
Darren
Quote from: darrenjuggins on January 16, 2019, 15:39
Hi,
I've had mine in since middle of last year, I think the other poster on the thread has recently fitted his unit, which is a similar model.
My experience is it's brilliant, I found it that good I bought another one and fitted it to my Civic Type R (FN2).
I ran the lead into the glove box (drilled a small hole) so just connect the phone and up pops Car Play for me....
Mapping is great now with Waze, Apple Maps and Google Maps working....
The big buttons offered by car play allow easy low distraction use...
I use BBC Radio Player, Tunein Radio Apple Music plus any other Car Play enables App I can find....
The unit is very cleared, I can discount halfway through listening to a show on Radio Player and when I plug back in, it remembers and carry's on (it's like magic).
As for the position, I don't mind it, with the physical volume button and the big buttons on screen it works fine.
The addition of the Stalk remote (good luck finding a used one) it's even better as you can control volume, track selection, att (sound reduction) and many other features in a multi function stalk (unfortunately this isn't included)
As for price - £300 for my model and now they have added / modified the range, like the one the other poster has included....
Check out amazon, £300 for the unit is a steal compared to its original price.
It's also got some power, so works great combined with good speakers and the correct sound insulation... the MR2 has never had great acoustics, but with a little bit of patience and padding, they can sound nice.
Cheers
Darren
Thanks for the great reply.
I'd be using Android Auto, so hoping that is as as good as Car Play, things like Google Maps and Waze are the main reasons for looking at it.
As it happens I picked up a remote commander off here not so long ago, as my current double din is a Sony.
Also have my doors sound deadened, but must still get round to new speakers!
Thanks again - its on the Christmas list! :o
I managed to fit a 7" screen in my pfl, also got the rearview and dashcam to go with it. I like the fact you can set up the dashcam to start recording as soon as the ingnition is powered on.
Being an android device, your not short for apps ;D