Has anyone tried Goodyear Eagle Ventura's? I was going to go with the F1's but apparently the 185/55x15 is being discontinued.
Thanks, Paul.
Quote from: "paul russell"Has anyone tried Goodyear Eagle Ventura's? I was going to go with the F1's but apparently the 185/55x15 is being discontinued.
Thanks, Paul.
That would be markiii's cue to comment - he has these at the moment and let's just say they are *INTERESTING* s:evil: :evil: s:evil:
Why not try Toyo Proxes - might work out cheaper and have a good reputation.
DO NOT, I say again DO NOT buy venturas for the roadster.
They are very grippy, and very progressive, and brilliant in the wet.
They do however have teh softest sidewall known to man.
End result is that unless you run them way over pressure (which has some nasty side effects of its own) the tyre will start to roll on th wheel.
This feels like the car is going to flip.
I would term them as dangerous. The only reason I'm still running them is I can't afford to change them yet.
I'm sort of used to it now. But there are far far better tyres you can buy for this application.
Ref the F1's they are a little narrower than it would suggest on paper, go with 195/50 on the front and you'll be fine.
Thanks for the advice. My local tyre fitter can't get hold of any Eagle F1's until next week and I really need them asap. Looks like I might have to go with the Bridgestone RE040's again. To be honest, I haven't found them that bad. It's only since they have been getting a bit worn that the handling has deteriorated, but I guess that would be the same for any tyre. What are the Toyo's like? Would they last as long as the Bridgestones?
Ive started using them and im still experimenting with pressures etc, but i think Liz has had a set of toyos on her car for AGES!
if your desperate for tyres, i think you could do a lot worse than trying the toyos.
The toyos' are supposed to be very nice, though I've never had them. I would suggest though if your looking at the Bridgestones get the S03, it's a really good road tyre, and teh RE040 is pants.
I love my Toyos, had them on since July 02, still got loads of tread - but I don't do track days and I have only given them one blat at North Weald, got a new near side rear after the accident though, but asked my tyre supplier and they said that the others were ok and not to worry about changing them. As a point, Simon had a set of god knows what on his Eunos and had a few hairy experiences in the wet with them, I bought him a new set of 15" alloys which came with a set of Toyos for £350, look nice and he says that he feels alot safer in the wet now, no back slip around corners.
Quoteno back slip around corners
thats half the fun
s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Can someone tell me how the yokohamas compare with the other tyres available for the mr2?
I can't compare, but I like them in the wet, and they are allright in normal/fast driving, but when pushing hard (in the dry) the front tyres bend, like Markiii said about the Venturas, with a sound like breeeeeeeee. It's not dangerous but takes all the fun, and you can not reach the limits of the car.
This thing happens with the other tyres, at 26psi?
Quote from: "pp"Can someone tell me how the yokohamas compare with the other tyres available for the mr2?
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Quote from: "Tem"Quote from: "pp"Can someone tell me how the yokohamas compare with the other tyres available for the mr2?
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Thanks...lots of information, s:D :D s:D but very little on tyrewalls (I hate soft tyrewalls).
Willow said that the Yokohamas are inapropriate for any spirited driving, and I agree. He bought F1s and said they are good but could have stiffer tyrewalls and Juansolo said Yokohamas Advan are very good with almost no roll.
Can I conclude from this that tyrewalls from Advan are stronger than the ones in F1s? s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
probably.
Best bet for really stiff sidewalls is Bridgestone S03
Stiffer than the Bridgestone RE040's to the point you need to run them with much lower pressures. Ride suffers because of it though.
I'm not sure I'd run them unless you were planning on using it on circuit though. They're a great allrounder but the Bridgestones are probably better road tyres.
Edited: I meant RE040 not RE030 doh! s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
Hi late picking this thread up,
but I concour with Kris on the Good Years, you Roll all ove, its dangerous coming off a roundabout fast.
When I got my Roadster in 2000, I got a puncture and the RE040's where difficult to get hold of I opted for Good Year ventura, after a week I spoke to goodyear direct who categorically told me that they SHOULD NOT BE USED on a Roadster and with that agreed to buy them back, had to wait about 2,000 miles for the RE040's to come in so I crawled around on the venturas......
you have been warned.....
Answer this though, why if they are so bad on Mid Engined, Rear Wheel Drive cars, do MGF's have them as standard ??????????????? maybe MGF's drivers would be well informed to change to harder wall tyres.
If you go for the RE040's look to pay about £130 per pair fitted and balanced.
Cheers
MR J
not so, the MGF uses F1's as standard equipment.
a whole different fettle of fish.
ah.....
That new model or old ?
I'm sure when we went to Thruxton a coupe of years back they had venturas on, well certainly felt like it on track LMAO!!!!!!
Quote from: "juansolo"Stiffer than the Bridgestone RE030's to the point you need to run them with much lower pressures. Ride suffers because of it though.
I'm not sure I'd run them unless you were planning on using it on circuit though. They're a great allrounder but the Bridgestones are probably better road tyres.
Thanks Guys.
Markiii talks about s 03, you talk about reo 30.
A little confused, the Bridgestones S 03 are the same as reo 30?
If not what is the best for a spireted drive.
nope S03 or RE040, I'm assuming the RE030 was a typo.
I decided to play safe and had another pair of RE040 rears fitted (the fronts still have a fair bit of tread left). The handling is transformed compared with when I had the worn ones on there. Which goes to show that you really have to compare like with like, ie not compare worn out RE040's with new F1's or whatever. I think after getting used to driving on worn tyres you tend to forget what they were like when they were new.
good price ??
Quote from: "darrenjuggins"good price ??
£136.
Quote from: "paul russell"Quote from: "darrenjuggins"good price ??
£136.
s:shock: :shock: s:shock: I can get RE040's for £70 and S-03's for £95
Quote from: "Peter Laborne"s:shock: :shock: s:shock: I can get RE040's for £70 and S-03's for £95
That's quite cheap Peter! Where's that from then?
Sundance s8) 8) s8)
Quote from: "Sundance"Quote from: "Peter Laborne"s:shock: :shock: s:shock: I can get RE040's for £70 and S-03's for £95
That's quite cheap Peter! Where's that from then?
Sundance s8) 8) s8)
RE040's from Jemca Metro. They have said that they will do them for £75ea (all inc) for MR2 ROC members
S-03's from Cambridge Performance Tyres or Jemca Metro (same price each (all inc) for MR2 ROC members)
S03's are about the same over here s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
You guys might wanna think about ordering from US. The 195/50/15 is under $100...that's under £50.
No idea about shipping only tyres, but 4 tyres and 4 wheels were about $250. If you're not in a hurry, a sea freight should be a lot less..
(needless to say that wheels are bloody cheap in US at these rates as well)
Quote from: "paul russell"Quote from: "darrenjuggins"good price ??
£136.
That was £136 for the pair, by the way.
Quote from: "pp"Quote from: "juansolo"Stiffer than the Bridgestone RE030's to the point you need to run them with much lower pressures. Ride suffers because of it though.
I'm not sure I'd run them unless you were planning on using it on circuit though. They're a great allrounder but the Bridgestones are probably better road tyres.
Thanks Guys.
Markiii talks about s 03, you talk about reo 30.
A little confused, the Bridgestones S 03 are the same as reo 30?
If not what is the best for a spireted drive.
My bad, I meant RE040 (or whatever they're called). As for whats best for spirited driving that depends what you mean by spirited.
The Bridgestones were fine tyres: grippy, good in the wet and predicatble when they let go. But they melt and fall apart on track. On a road they'd be my choice though as you'll never get them hot enough to do that sort of damage to them.
Which is why I'd probably avoid the Nova's for road as they're a little harder and the ride suffers. Also they're not as grippy when cold and not quite as good in the wet. They are a massively progressive and communicative tyre though and amazingly durable.
I've not tried the Proxies so can't compare.
Quote from: "juansolo"I've not tried the Proxies so can't compare.
Both Markiii & SteveJ tried my car at the weekend with the proxes on them so hopefully they will tell you what they thought. It was the first time i gave it a little extra since having them on the car and both me and mark (as passenger) could feel the car just gently sliding at the back, very progressive and gives you so much confidence.
Cant wait till they are scrubbed in now! s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
Well die hard F1 fan as I am I must admit they were very impressive.
They are as communicative as teh venturas but theyre not lethal like the venturas.
They are also cheaper thans cheap stuff in a sale. Reading teh mytyres review they are a little behind teh F1's in al respects but at half the price (I kid you ot) you can change them twice as often.
I'm seriously thinking of trying these next instead of the F1s now.
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Cheers...
GSB
im running a set of dunlop SP1 on the front at the minet and they seem fine good drip in the dry and wet, and road noise is down aswell
i payed £51.00 each for them which was a good price i think as they were new tyre from dunlop for 2003
After reading the available information, and listening to your sugestions (thanks Guys) I would say that probably the best tyre for my kind of driving (if I can, I will do some track time, so I don't want tyres you can't use for that) are the Bridgestone 03.
I've got a 2003 with 185/55/R15 and 215/45/R16. The 03 have the following sizes:
195/50/R15, 195/55/R15 and 215/55/R16, 225/45/R16, 225/45/R16
Do you think the 195/55/R15 and 225/45/R16 are the best option?
Do you think the balance of the car will be maintained?
(I'm waiting for the turbo from TTE, and I will have one soon, that or Lampka, so, the extra width can be a good idea.)
I know that some of you know a lot more than me on this, so I would apreciate your comments.
Thanks
Go for 195/50/15 & 225/40/16 if you can... going wider and not lower on the rears will put your speedo out quite a bit.
Thats what im running in Toyos and its super fine.
Quote from: "krisclarkuk"Go for 195/50/15 & 225/40/16 if you can... going wider and not lower on the rears will put your speedo out quite a bit.
Thats what im running in Toyos and its super fine.
Using 225/45/16's in place of the original 215's
Speedo reading will be 1.5% too slow. (vehicle will be travelking 1.5% faster than it says on the clock.)
Using 225/40/16's in place of the original 215's
Speedo will be 2.3% too fast (vehicle will be traveling 2.3%slower than it says on the clock.)
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Thats why i went too fast... i would rather be going slower than i think than faster! s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
Quote from: "krisclarkuk"Thats why i went too fast... i would rather be going slower than i think than faster! s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
Same here (think I already am, GPS says my speedo is already 5mph over reading).