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The Workshop => Performance Related => Topic started by: Ilogik on January 29, 2011, 13:31

Title: Will the front crash bolts work for the rear?
Post by: Ilogik on January 29, 2011, 13:31
Due to my car being very very low on the bcs im struggling to get the best camber set up. Can anyone recommend a kit?
Title: Re: Camber adjustment kit for BC coilovers?
Post by: Wabbitkilla on January 29, 2011, 13:47
You shouldn't have a problem at the front.

For the rear Megan racing or Che adjustable linkages (available from Prolex these days).
Or Crash bolts.

All have been well covered on the forum

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Title: Re: Camber adjustment kit for BC coilovers?
Post by: Ilogik on January 29, 2011, 13:55
Quote from: "Wabbitkilla"You shouldn't have a problem at the front.

For the rear Megan racing or Che adjustable linkages (available from Prolex these days).
Or Crash bolts.

All have been well covered on the forum

Is this the right thing? getting confused. Seem to be two different kits?

(http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/7927/2d661.jpg)

But then there are these

Can you explain difference between, trailing arms, control arms and track arms.
Title: Re: Camber adjustment kit for BC coilovers?
Post by: Wabbitkilla on January 29, 2011, 14:02
Quote from: "Ilogik"
Quote from: "Wabbitkilla"You shouldn't have a problem at the front.

For the rear Megan racing or Che adjustable linkages (available from Prolex these days).
Or Crash bolts.

All have been well covered on the forum

Is this the right thing? getting confused. Seem to be two different kits?

(http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/7927/2d661.jpg)

But then there are these

Can you explain difference between, trailing arms, control arms and track arms.

Simply put;

Trailing arms are the ones that go from the hub towards the front of the car. (Hence they trail from the car)

Control arms are the ones you will want and they are the ones that go from the bottom of the hub to the subframe.

Track arms are the ones you've shown there and they connect from the side of the hub nearest the back of the car and go to the subframe where the tracking adjusters are. (Hence track arms).
Title: Re: Camber adjustment kit for BC coilovers?
Post by: Wabbitkilla on January 29, 2011, 14:07
I think these are the lower arms although in the description stuff it calls them trailing arms -- they are very similar, just different lengths.
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Could be worth talking to Dave and checking they are the right ones.

Depending on the amount of adjustment you need, you may get away with crash bolts that would be cheaper
Title: Re: Camber adjustment kit for BC coilovers?
Post by: Ilogik on January 29, 2011, 14:08
Sounds good, will drop him a PM/
Title: Re: Camber adjustment kit for BC coilovers?
Post by: Wabbitkilla on January 29, 2011, 14:09
Picture courtesy of Fgrob

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h70/FGRob/IMG_0339.jpg)
Title: Re: Camber adjustment kit for BC coilovers?
Post by: Ilogik on January 29, 2011, 14:16
Wicked, its the front they said they had the biggest problem with, where can crash bolts be bought from? Just spoke to the alignment place and they said to try the bolts first.



Found these
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Would they be identical front and back?
Title: Re: Camber adjustment kit for BC coilovers?
Post by: Wabbitkilla on January 29, 2011, 14:21
You must have real problems if they're unable to get your front camber adjusted, or they don't know what they're doing!

Can't remember f the fronts and backs are the same, but I would guess they are.

Anyone?
Title: Re: Camber adjustment kit for BC coilovers?
Post by: Ilogik on January 29, 2011, 14:24
Quote from: "Wabbitkilla"You must have real problems if they're unable to get your front camber adjusted, or they don't know what they're doing!

Can't remember f the fronts and backs are the same, but I would guess they are.

Anyone?

haha my car is v v v low, the monocraft kit eats suspension. If you look at a recent bc thread you will see what i mean.

The best they could ajust the rear to was -2 camber and the front was 1 i think, i forgot my print out. I also have 17s with et 0.   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  if it makes any difference.
Title: Re: Camber adjustment kit for BC coilovers?
Post by: Ilogik on January 29, 2011, 16:09
current set up

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v709/Alessiogallo/GEOMSETUP.jpg)
Title: Re: Camber adjustment kit for BC coilovers?
Post by: markiii on January 29, 2011, 16:18
if teh bc don't already have them and if you can get them top adjustable pillowball mounts are a much better solution than crash bolts
Title: Re: Will the front crash bolts work for the rear?
Post by: Ilogik on January 30, 2011, 21:01
I have bought 2 sets just incase, but Toyota only list the crash bolts for the front only, can they  be interchanged with the rear or not is my question?
Title: Re: Will the front crash bolts work for the rear?
Post by: markiii on January 30, 2011, 21:10
No

Front bolts are smaller from memory
Title: Re: Will the front crash bolts work for the rear?
Post by: FGrob on January 30, 2011, 21:17
Front O/D bolt ranges from 14mm down to 12mm, with lengths of 50mm and 54mm, rear bolt O/D is 15mm not sure about the length though.
Title: Re: Will the front crash bolts work for the rear?
Post by: markiii on January 30, 2011, 21:18
i think the rearsd are rated higher in terms of tensile strength as well
Title: Re: Will the front crash bolts work for the rear?
Post by: Wabbitkilla on January 30, 2011, 22:17
BC's come by default with camber adjustable pillowball topmounts for the front.
There are multiple holes for the bolts so they can be adjusted significantly if required by moving the bolts around.
For the front if that's not enough then crashbolts are your only remaining option.

For the rear Magean racing type arms are probably the best and strongest solution.
Title: Re: Will the front crash bolts work for the rear?
Post by: Ilogik on January 31, 2011, 18:36
looks like i have two sets of crash bolts coming back up for sale then if the fronts do indeed have adjustables, have got myself a good deal on toe, trailer arm and track arm.  Will have to start selling organs soon.