Sorry to hear this, I am sure the day will come to us all when we have to get rid of the '2 for whatever reason, hope that you are happy with your ride in the future, whatever that may be.....who's up for gutting my cats then!!
Quote from: "Liz"who's up for gutting my cats then!!
You supply the car, somewhere to do it, and a post gutting beers, and I'll supply the know-how, swear words, and tools to remove the inevitable sheared studs...
Quote from: "GSB"Quote from: "Liz"who's up for gutting my cats then!!
You supply the car, somewhere to do it, and a post gutting beers, and I'll supply the know-how, swear words, and tools to remove the inevitable sheared studs...
you can both use my drive/garage if it helps
Quote from: "markiii"Quote from: "GSB"Quote from: "Liz"who's up for gutting my cats then!!
You supply the car, somewhere to do it, and a post gutting beers, and I'll supply the know-how, swear words, and tools to remove the inevitable sheared studs...
you can both use my drive/garage if it helps
Have you done yours yet Mark, we could get a production line going if there were a few of us there!? That of course depends on how long it takes, would it be best to lube the nuts first?? Nice offer though, may take you up on that if its OK with Grant. I will help you know what a good gofer I am now, I may not always bring the right tools but I get there in the end! s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
No problem Liz, any time is good, but weekdays are better for me... Just let me know.
Marks only just had a new manifold under warranty, so his cats should be ok. The whole job should only take a couple of hours assuming all goes well, but just in case I'll bring a shed load of drill bits and some taps to rethread anything that requires it.
we can put my manifold on as well :-) :-) :-)
Quote from: "markiii"Quote from: "GSB"Quote from: "Liz"who's up for gutting my cats then!!
You supply the car, somewhere to do it, and a post gutting beers, and I'll supply the know-how, swear words, and tools to remove the inevitable sheared studs...
you can both use my drive/garage if it helps
I don't suppose there is ANY chance that I could possibly jump on this wagon too is there? I will supply loads of beer, food, whatever it takes.... These pre-cats frighten me s:shock: :shock: s:shock: Hopefully Liz will vouch for my honesty and integrity s:D :D s:D
Quote from: "lilylaville"Quote from: "markiii"Quote from: "GSB"Quote from: "Liz"who's up for gutting my cats then!!
You supply the car, somewhere to do it, and a post gutting beers, and I'll supply the know-how, swear words, and tools to remove the inevitable sheared studs...
you can both use my drive/garage if it helps
I don't suppose there is ANY chance that I could possibly jump on this wagon too is there? I will supply loads of beer, food, whatever it takes.... These pre-cats frighten me s:shock: :shock: s:shock: Hopefully Liz will vouch for my honesty and integrity s:D :D s:D
don't see why not :-) :-) :-)
Quote from: "markiii"Quote from: "lilylavilleI don't suppose there is ANY chance that I could possibly jump on this wagon too is there? I will supply loads of beer, food, whatever it takes.... These pre-cats frighten me s:shock: :shock: s:shock: Hopefully Liz will vouch for my honesty and integrity s:D :D s:D
don't see why not :-) :-) :-)
Indeed, 2 manifolds in one day should be do-able...
Ahhhhh.....see. NOW I wish I had come to some of the meetings..............(not my fault I wasn't there may I add). I don't have the tools, the nouse or the space to do this joba nd really could do with someone who knows what they are doing at least GUIDING me through the process, if not doing the job for me! BUT, seeing as though I haven't met anyone, and it being a big job and living so far away from pretty much everyone, I am not sure I am going to get this job done ever.
Woe is me...............and worried about a time-bomb. Anyone got any suggestions? s:? :? s:?
Quote from: "John Woodward"Woe is me...............and worried about a time-bomb. Anyone got any suggestions? s:? :? s:?
Yeah... get your ass to JAE to meet some of us! s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
Quote from: "John Woodward"Woe is me...............and worried about a time-bomb. Anyone got any suggestions? s:? :? s:?
Dont worry about it... I've never been to any of the meets either.
One suggestion would be to make your way down to Marks on the day in question, where you can at least meet a few members. And then even if there isnt time to get to your car, you'll at least have seen in minute detail how to do it yourself once you've invested £30 in a trolley jack and a set of axle stands at Halfords.
Quote from: "krisclarkuk"Yeah... get your ass to JAE to meet some of us! s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
Also a very good suggestion... s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
I can bring my own trolley jack as well, I will beat the cats out myself once the manifold is off! And I can vouch for Kelly! s:D :D s:D
Quote from: "Liz"I can bring my own trolley jack as well, I will beat the cats out myself once the manifold is off!
So I get all the burns and skinned knuckles, and you get all the fun?
AAAARRRRGGGHHHH!!!! Not sure about JAE, although I would like to go. I have to check on that one. As for getting to Marks, possibly.........might not be a bad idea. I will check with the other half on that one too!!!
Will get back to all. This might not be a bad idea..........
Sounds fair to me s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
I can make the 11th June after work - I finish at 15.45 can get to Marks by about 4.30?
Mods can this topic be split, I have the power to mod but frightened I may break something!!
Quote from: "Liz"I can make the 11th June after work - I finish at 15.45 can get to Marks by about 4.30?
Mods can this topic be split, I have the power to mod but frightened I may break something!!
No can do... Heading out to Le Mans for the 24hr race...
18th????
Nope, no good either. And the week after is just a nightmare...
Given the need to get the car on the road again on the same day, and the potential for bolts to shear and cause many hours of grief, it'd be better to start a bit earlier anyway, especially as we're going to do two cars. I've got the 14th and the 17th off, and I'm not doing anything yet, so either of those days is good, and a 10am start would be good too, as we really dont want to be rushing the job, or waiting to long for cars to cool down enough to work on them...
Can do the 14th!! Off all day
14th it is then, Hows that for Lilly and John?
Where are we going to do them????
Where's my avatar!!
14th of this month? Thats a Monday isn't it? I am going to need directions and I should be there, if that is Ok?
You guys are stars!
Is there any prep on the car that might need doing beforehand, like freeing oil or things before I get there?
Better go and ask the boss if I can have the day off, but I don't think it is going to be a problem. Mark me in!!!
Just need those directions......... s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Quote from: "Liz"Where are we going to do them????
Where's my avatar!!
Mark, are you okay with this? There will be;
Me,
Liz,
Lillylaville (if she can make it)
and John Woodward.
i.e. 2 or 3 decats, plus your manifold whcih should be the quickest of the bunch to do... I'll bring along some of my special F'in High Temperature grease s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
is a trolley jack neccesary?or will the standard jak do the job?
was going to attempt to gut mine today, but it hasnt stopped raining all day s:( :( s:( s:( :( s:(
Not neccesary at all, you could use ramps if you prefer.
I use a trolley jack to lift the whole rear end onto axle stands, simply because I dont have any ramps.
Whatever you do, dont get under the car if its just supported on a jack.
14th Ok with me, I'll book teh day off :-) :-) :-)
Well, that is me and Kelly up for that day!
Excellent, now all we need is the weather...
I'll bring along:
A trolley jack of pathetic proportions that fits in the back of my car,
A set of axle stands,
A drill and several drill bits,
Taps and dies, to re-cut any damaged threads.
high temperature grease
High temperature anti sieze compound.
General Tookit.
Anything I dont have, Mark will have in his garage, so its unlikely anyone will need to bring thier own tools.
One thing everyone will need is new gaskets. The part number and price is in my original post from when I gutted my cats.
Anyone of a sensitive dispostion should be aware that I'm an engineer. As such any F, B or C words (or indeed any combination of F's, B's, C's plus others you probably wont have heard before) you hear uttered from beneath your car are in fact very technical engineering terms, and not the common or garden olde english vulgarities you might hear in the more un-savoury pubs of the area... s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
My boss isn't around right now to ask about the 14th, but I really don't envisage it being a problem, so put me down as a 99% defo.
I shall look into getting the gasket ASAP ready for the day and will look forward to it.
And don't worry about the expletives either. I am a scientist and if you work in an envirnment where 99 times out of 100 NOTHING WORKS, you get to hear the best of the Queens language, I can tell you. I may have to just join you in a rant in frustration!!!
Cheers guys. This is going to take a lot off my mind...........
Will PM about directions nearer the time.........
And I work in IT so no problem with expletives there! Yep I'm back online!! Decided that allowing the whole of the Education network to be able to access Match making sites was far less of a problem than me not being able to join in on this conversation! s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
The 14th is fine with me as Liz says and I REALLY do appreciate it. Should I bring anything apart from loads of moral support, praise and encouragement? oh yeah and beer and cake s:) :) s:)
Girl question time......Do Kelly and I need to get gaskets, if so what do we ask for???
Quote from: "Liz"Girl question time......Do Kelly and I need to get gaskets, if so what do we ask for???
Liz, you of all people should know how to use the search button by now... s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
You need a pair of Manifold to main cat gaskets, held in stock by most main dealers, £5.22 for a pair.
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Part number is T90917-06065[/quote]
One other thing...
Not only will I be requiring refreshing beverages delivered to me throughout the day, as well as unquestioning sympathy every time I graze a knuckle, and compulsory wearing of very short skirts for all ladies present s:wink: :wink: s:wink: , (Well, there has to be some incentive to spend half the day lying on a very-very uncomfortable gravel driveway!) I would like to politely request that if any of you wish to express your gratitiude for works carried out you do so by making a donation to the club. If you dont like the sound of that, blame MR Mike, it was his idea!!!!
Quote from: "GSB"One other thing...
I would like to politely request that if any of you wish to express your gratitiude for works carried out you do so by making a donation to the club. If you dont like the sound of that, blame MR Mike, it was his idea!!!!
But of course! Not sure about the short skirt bit though, I think you'd prefer to keep your breakfast down wouldn't you s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
ah well looks like skimpy tops the s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Quote from: "markiii"ah well looks like skimpy tops the s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
A slightly better option! s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Thanks for providing the venue et al s:D :D s:D
I will bring an exercise mat for you to lay down on, that will save your back!!
As for short skirts, cellulite is an ugly word!
I will put another donation into the club for sure, more than worth it!
I can wear a short skirt if you like? Comedy value and bring a light hearted moment to what is a most serious situation................. s:( :( s:( s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Already donated, but will be MORE than willing to donate again for this mate. Not a problem. I was going to ask you personally if you wanted anything for it anyway cos its a big job and I thought it only fair (me being so crap and all.............. s:roll: :roll: s:roll: ). If you are willing for the donation to go to the club, then fair enough, but I am more than willing to make a donation directly to your good self if you like?
Right, will look into getting the gaskets later. Cheers for posting that again. Saves me that extra click on the search button and me using energy to move my wrist that one more time........ s:roll: :roll: s:roll: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
You turn up in a skirt John, and I will be charging...
Right, Iam coming in a suit then!!! s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Going to pop out in my break to get these gaskets, John, Kelly do you want me to pick u up some, you have until 11.00am to answer!
Watch out, looks like I'll be around to get in the way as well... s:) :) s:)
Hmm... havent you already gotten rid of your pre-cats Martin? s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
You'll have to take me up the road in the infamous turbo'2...
My NA manifold is untouched in Mark's garage as it so happens - well that's what he's been telling me..
hypothetically, what are ebays rules rergarding getting back stuff you've sold? s:cry: :cry: s:cry:
Want some gaskets Martin - 19 mins to go!
No, just a car Liz - still waiting for the garage to get around to fixing the SMT s:? :? s:?
Err, not enough in the bank for that one!
Been out and got them, I got 6 of them so a set for Kelly and John, if they have them already, then I have a few spares, I am sure that they will come in useful
Superb...
Now, If I can once again ask really-really nicely... Can everyone make sure they've liberally soaked the lower cat to manifold bolts in plusgas or some other penetrating oil before they come round?
Yes, you will have to get dirty to do it, and yes you do have to crawl under the car. Try parking with one wheel up on the kerb for to make it easier. You need to get to the three nuts that hold the front of the cat to the manifold, the joint lies inbetween the back of the sump and the offside driveshaft where it passes behind the engine.
Its a pain, but believe me when I say 10 minutes of your time can save a couple of hours of mine!
Cheers!
Quote from: "GSB"Superb...
Can everyone make sure they've liberally soaked the lower cat to manifold bolts in plusgas or some other penetrating oil before they come round?
Yes, you will have to get dirty to do it, and yes you do have to crawl under the car. Try parking with one wheel up on the kerb for to make it easier. You need to get to the three nuts that hold the front of the cat to the manifold, the joint lies inbetween the back of the sump and the offside driveshaft where it passes behind the engine.
Its a pain, but believe me when I say 10 minutes of your time can save a couple of hours of mine!
Cheers!
Eeek! Do you have a map? Only kidding I'll locate the bolts. Would baby oil do for the penetrating oil? s:P :P s:P s:wink: :wink: s:wink: Don't worry I understand (barely).
liz - Thanks so much for picking up the parts for me, just managed to sort out this filtering problem as it went all bandy again.
Quote from: "lilylaville"Would baby oil do for the penetrating oil?
s:shock: :shock: s:shock: Errr... Yes it would, but I'm not entirely sure we're talking about the same thing anymore! Feel free to bring some along anyway s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
I'll get me coat...
Whey HEY!!! BABY OIL!!!!............
I just got here, can you tell? s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
Liz, you are a star. I haven't been around on the board for a little while cos, beleive it or not, I was actually working! So I have only just got to this thread.
But a BIG thanks for getting those gaskets Liz. That is brilliant. I was going to go and pop to the local MrT this weekend (which ISN'T very local at all), but you have saved me a good hours journey. Cheers for that. Do you want the money in advance or do you want it sent to you?
Let us know, but cheers again Liz!!!
Pay me on the day, £2.22 each + VAT, no worries, whilst I got mine no problems buying 2 more sets. Only around the corner from where I work!
Baby oil? Did I miss summink? s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Finally fathomed out this filtering problem - it filters out the w www.mr2roc.org (http://www.mr2roc.org) w website but not the .co.uk weird but our ISp support are on the case. At least I can get back to viewing these pages!
Do you want me to bring my trolley jack then?? I am going to buy some axel stands as well
No need really Liz, I'll have some and So will Mark
GSB, where do i get this pusgas stuff from? halfords? is it better that the ol' WD40? it is a lubricant isnt it? s:? :? s:?
Try Halfords. Its a penetratiing oil.
I bought some penetrating oil from Halfords to do mine (can't remember which brand, but may have been Castrol) and it was the nuts - I only sprayed some on half an hour before attemting the job, and not one nut / bolt was seized or any trouble to get out s:D :D s:D
Just had a thought, I've got this new Diagnostics port reader with a built in dyno program. Think of it as a poor mans dyno with all the human error removed and you get the idea of what the software does.
Now, whilst the numbers should in no way be considered definitive in real terms, they are accurate enough for comparison of before and after runs which will give us a very good idea of what precat gutting does to power outputs. Especially if carried out on 2 or 3 different cars. Mark can also use it for the job he wants to do.
Theres just one thing we need to complete my master plan, a laptop that can remain unplugged for longer than 10 minutes without running out of juice!
Anyone?
Quote from: "GSB"Theres just one thing we need to complete my master plan, a laptop that can remain unplugged for longer than 10 minutes without running out of juice!
Anyone?
I would've thought Mark's got one, if not I'll bring either the laptop or the tablet with me.
i do indeed, what ports do we require?
Just a serial port and a CD rom drive...
easy, tis done.
Martin, are you coming along now for definiate!!? s:) :) s:)
As definite as I can be, yep, I should be along s:) :) s:)
I'll be there, but not in the '2, soz.. s:cry: :cry: s:cry:
still arriving on sunday?
Yep. Can't give you a time yet as it's dependent how well Sat goes..
I am just about to go outside and lube my nuts!
Quote from: "Liz"I am just about to go outside and lube my nuts!
Nice! s8) 8) s8)
Whatever you do tomorrow, don't cross-thread your O2's.... I did and now I'm screwed to say the least, as I completely knackered the manifold trying to correct the problem s:cry: :cry: s:cry:
on gutting cats, mine passed the mot with no pre-cats so good luck and happy guttin. s:D :D s:D
Quote from: "Slacey"Whatever you do tomorrow, don't cross-thread your O2's.... I did and now I'm screwed to say the least, as I completely knackered the manifold trying to correct the problem s:cry: :cry: s:cry:
I already did s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
I just went to get a new bolt instead of trying to fix it. It was only euro.something and luckily the threadin the manifold was still ok..
Quote from: "Tem"....luckily the threadin the manifold was still ok..
Unfortunately mine wasn't and the car is now undriveable - an appeal for a spare manifold will be appearing later today if I don't turn up anything soon s:? :? s:?
I'm seeing Martin tonight I'll ask him for you.
Just about to lube my nuts too!!!!
to all lubing, please do teh nuts around teh heatshield and your 02 sensors as well.
thanks
Quote from: "Slacey"Unfortunately mine wasn't and the car is now undriveable - an appeal for a spare manifold will be appearing later today if I don't turn up anything soon s:? :? s:?
Surely spare manifold is the easiest option...but I'm sure you could just drill the hole open and use a general bolt+nut instead of the stock ones. Already thought of that when I was buying the new bolt...
Sean actuallycross threaded the 02 sensor itself, so uit's teh 02 bung thats is knackered.
might be worth ringing a loal exghaust shop and seeing if they could weld a new bung on for you?
I have tried to get underneath to lube em but I had trouble without taking the nappy off s:oops: :oops: s:oops: , I will spray as much as I can though.
Quote from: "markiii"Sean actuallycross threaded the 02 sensor itself
Oops, should've read more carefully, he even said so s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
You're probably right, muffler shops can make O2 bungs to pipes where they don't exist, so surely they can replace an existing one as well.
It looks like you may have an extra visitor tomorrow as Grant may well be my saviour.... s:D :D s:D
Yeah!! More the merrier, be good to see you there and hope that the car gets sorted out s:) :) s:) Will anyone else be offended if I wear my baseball cap!?
Confirmed, I will be there - although in the Yaris s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
Right, Iam about to set off in about half an hour. I will be there hopefully in about 1 1/2 hours. Hope this is OK with everyone?
Will be good to meet a few people!!! Oh, and get the pre-cats out hopefully........... s:oops: :oops: s:oops: s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
See you in a bit!!
A Big big big thankyou especially to Grant for taking time out to do this today, my car sounds bloody awesome now, lovely bubbles and burbs when slowing down and sounds great on acceleration.
Thanks to Mark for the hospitality as usual, and to Martin the fastest sandwich maker in the west, oh, and driver s:shock: :shock: s:shock: ! Great to see you again Kelly and to meet Phil (hope his cold gets better soon) and nice to meet you John, you went on your test run, we waited for a while and had to go.
Hope that yours goes on OK Sean...
Thankyou all very much for a nice day! s:D :D s:D
Donation on its way
Just got back. I would also like to say a BIG thank you to both Mark (nice place you have there!) and to grant who worked his much admired arse off (Kerry?!!!! s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol: ) to get the cars done. Seriously, seriously appreciated and there is going to be another large donation going to the club for it. I feel I should have repaid you in person (oo-er), but not sure how or what would have been suffice.
As for the car? What a lovely burble it has now and it really has some lovely improved 3rd gear pick up. I think there may be a case to say the torque may have increased a little. Definately felt like it.........
And I am sorry I didn't get to see Kerry, Phil and Liz go and it was good to meet Martin. I got lost on my test drive (I was half way up the A1 slip road before I realised I had gone the wrong way and ended up in Stevanage!!! s:roll: :roll: s:roll: s:oops: :oops: s:oops: ), but it was great to put some faces to names. Hope you find your bulbs Kerry! And hope the cold goes soon Phil! And NICE sounding motor now Liz!!! Thanks all once again for a really good day and now I have no worries about my motor going bang now.
All of you, get out there and do it!!!!
Thanks again guys!
Just to let you know, I got back and started work straight away... and then struggled for an hour with a rounded off bolt (which came off no problem last time), eventually fixed the problem though. So, the borrowed header is on and all is well again - just got to find somewhere to fix my original one now.
Thanks again to Grant for saving my bacon, and I hope you guys now enjoy your gutted cars without worry s:) :) s:)
Repeating all of the above - THANK YOU, THANK YOU Grant for your hard work (and no, I wasn't looking at his butt, just wondering how he was going to get all of that grease out of his shorts - honest guv!),Mark thank you for the great hospitality (fantastic pad you have there), Martin, thank you for the fantastic passenger ride s:shock: :shock: s:shock: s:wink: :wink: s:wink: . John, thank you for driving me round unsuccesfully for bulbs but succesfully for ice lollies s:D :D s:D . Liz, thanks for the gaskets and for the perforated eardrums in the tunnels s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Sean it was great to meet you too!
Looking forward to seeing more faces at JAE. I'll post some pics of today when I get to work tomorrow. Take care all!
Quote from: "lilylaville"(and no, I wasn't looking at his butt, just wondering how he was going to get all of that grease out of his shorts - honest guv!),
Get the
what of of my shorts? s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
Ahh yes, the grease... well most of its already out. When I got in I threw everything I was wearing into the washing machine (including the shoes!) and then jumped in the shower and washed 4 cars worth of grime, grease, penetrating oil and rusty bits out of my hair... Unfortunatley, this seems to have written off the bath, and resulted in a failed attempt to get to the shops to get some bathroom cleaner before my tidier, better half came home!
Thanks to Mark for the constant stream of chilled Stellas, and the use of his driveway. And thanks to the builders whose skip now contains the remains of no less than 5 sets of precats!
How's the PPE Mark, or are you still out driving!!?
GSB wrote:QuoteAhh yes, the grease... well most of its already out. When I got in I threw everything I was wearing into the washing machine (including the shoes!) and then jumped in the shower and washed 4 cars worth of grime, grease, penetrating oil and rusty bits out of my hair... Unfortunatley, this seems to have written off the bath, and resulted in a failed attempt to get to the shops to get some bathroom cleaner before my tidier, better half came home!
DOH!!!!!!!!!If its any consolation Grant, it was worth it............ s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Tell his better half that when she has to scrub the bath out, tell her sorry from us! s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
And here's me thinking Grant was a modern man and would clean up after himself............. s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Quote from: "Liz"How's the PPE Mark, or are you still out driving!!?
don't ask,
lets just say when you add the slight marigin of error of teh PPE, to teh slight margin of error of the H7s 9in teh opposite direction) you have a downpipe that won't actually fit. s:-( :-( s:-(
so the old stuff (minus precats) went back on for now.
This will require some thought.
Sorry to hear that s:cry: :cry: s:cry: , would of sounded great, hope that you get a way around it.
Photos as promised:
Spot the worker!
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All cars nervously waiting.....Please excuse the micra in the background s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
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Quote from: "lilylaville"Photos as promised:
Oh Martin I want to get my hands on your manuifold :-) :-) :-)
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This will teach him to turn me down :-) :-) :-)
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Like 'em!!! Glad I wasn't on many of them!!!
Which one are you then John, cos im sure you dont really exist! s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Quote from: "markiii"Oh Martin I want to get my hands on your manuifold ... This will teach him to turn me down
OY!
...and yet there's no pics of Liz post test drive...
John - far left of pic
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SORRY! Those photos were massive. s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
Just making sure the girlie gets it right....
http://www.spydermagazine.com/files/kwoversee.jpg
Hammer action
http://www.spydermagazine.com/files/kwhammeraction.jpg
Blimey, John is a short arse! s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
(just kidding mate!)
I've just noticed the logo on Liz's cap, very nice.
HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH..........LOL!!!!
I TOLD you I was!!!!!
Yep, thats me. I was kinda hoping the piccies wouldn't become available (not really into showing myself off), but I suppose a face to a name is a good thing..............
Just check out the T0-shirt. its my favourite.......... s8) 8) s8) Oh, and the rapidly reddening neck........still sore now!
And I have just had another look at the first pic. That really DOES make me look like I am SOOOOO much shorter than everyone else........... s:shock: :shock: s:shock: I'm not THAT much shorter. Must have been on a downslope cos I am SURE I was taller than Liz!
Confidence slowly slipping away.............. s:cry: :cry: s:cry: [/b]
Blimey I'm being edited all over the place. I'll give up on the pics.... s:cry: :cry: s:cry:
Quote from: "lilylaville"Blimey I'm being edited all over the place. I'll give up on the pics.... s:cry: :cry: s:cry:
Simple... dont post hude images, dont keep replying to your own post when you can simply edit your last one s:) :) s:)
Quote from: "John Woodward"Yep, thats me. I was kinda hoping the piccies wouldn't become available (not really into showing myself off), but I suppose a face to a name is a good thing..............
Sorry John, I guess I should have asked all before posting.
NAHHHHH!!!!! Don't worry! I was only kidding sort of. Its no big deal, honest!!!
Perhaps I should have re-phrased it really. Just re-read what I posted and it does sound a little off........apologies. I don't mind really........I meant lightheartedly.........
Nope, if there are any more, post away! I don't mind really. I just worry I am going to crack peoples computer screens with my ugly mug sometimes, thats all!!! Just precautionary really.......... s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
No wonder you rave about the Lotus if you're small and not heavy. An Elise would fly with just you in it!!
Quote from: "krisclarkuk"Simple... dont post hude images, dont keep replying to your own post when you can simply edit your last one s:) :) s:)
I was rushing to post the photos and didn't realise how big they were. I'll do better next time.....promise s:D :D s:D
Quote from: "Comer"No wonder you rave about the Lotus if you're small and not heavy. An Elise would fly with just you in it!!
Oh yeah............ s8) 8) s8) s:D :D s:D
Slight topic drift, but you would be suprised at how much it does make a difference. My mate got out of his and left me with the keys and the difference in the performance without the passenger was definately very noticable. And as you have pointed out, I don't tend to add a lot of weight to motors................ s8) 8) s8) s:lol: :lol: s:lol: All just adds to the fun........... s8) 8) s8)
I'm so gutted I missed the gutting!
Looks like a fantastic day, really disappointed I couldn't make it.. and of course I still have my pre-cats worrying me! s:( :( s:(
John, you look about the same build as me... and I'm only 9 stone, nothing to be ashamed of! Power to weight and all that... s8) 8) s8)
Tim
Yep, about right. 5'5" tall and about 9.5 stone. Less weight the better eh? s8) 8) s8) s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Weird that. For some reason, I assumed you would be 6 foot plus Tim. Don't know why...........perhaps its my inherant paranoia that everyone is going to be taller than me......... s:oops: :oops: s:oops: s:roll: :roll: s:roll: s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Blimey, we're being invaded my Middle-Earth dwelling folk! s:lol: :lol: s:lol: I'm only 5'9" myself, though weigh a tad more than 9.5 stone... s:cry: :cry: s:cry:
6 feet, 15 stones (or is it "15 stone"). http://www.metric-conversions.org/weight/stones-to-pounds.htm Learned something new today.
Gutting precats is probably close to a TRD header... 2-3 HP... but FREE. I wish I had thought of that before I bought my TRD header. A guy on SpyderChat (I think it was JoeSchmoe) did this a long time ago, but I thought he had just done it to prevent possible precat deterioration problems.
Quote from: "Darth Paul"Blimey, we're being invaded my Middle-Earth dwelling folk! I'm only 5'9" myself, though weigh a tad more than 9.5 stone...
LOL!!!!
Quote from: "Beanie"Gutting precats is probably close to a TRD header... 2-3 HP... but FREE. I wish I had thought of that before I bought my TRD header. A guy on SpyderChat (I think it was JoeSchmoe) did this a long time ago, but I thought he had just done it to prevent possible precat deterioration problems.
I wouldn't like to comment on the technical spec, but I can believe that this does hold up. There is a definate change in the "feel" in the car, especially in the midrange. I wouldn't say it was significantly faster, but its pick-up does seem more "urgent" for some reason. Mind you, after seeing the matrix of the cat come out when doing the work and seeing the tightness of it, I am not suprised that there was obstruction to the airflow!!!! s:shock: :shock: s:shock: Really small diameter holes all the way through. Would be interesting to see how the car behaved without the MAIN cat in too...........
Thanks for the pictures Kelly, I am now on a diet! s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
It was a good day though, thanks again everyone s:) :) s:)
Quote from: "Liz"Thanks for the pictures Kelly, I am now on a diet! s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
Maybe I'll come along to the next one, then you can all feel good about your weight in comparison s;) ;) s;)
At least I won't be the shortest person there if John comes s;) ;) s;) (I'm only 5'9", just a tiddler really..) (Sorry John s:) :) s:) )
Aaron
Something that hasn't been stated loudly and obviously enough for my liking is how amazing Liz's '2 sounds now. The combination of the A'PEXi intake, decatted manifold and H&S exhaust should be considered a must have for those who long for that real sports car sound.
Quote from: "aaronjb"Quote from: "Liz"Thanks for the pictures Kelly, I am now on a diet! s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
Maybe I'll come along to the next one, then you can all feel good about your weight in comparison s;) ;) s;)
At least I won't be the shortest person there if John comes s;) ;) s;) (I'm only 5'9", just a tiddler really..) (Sorry John s:) :) s:) )
Aaron
Heh heh......don 't worry about it Aaron. There are few that ARE shorter than me, so I am used to whatever gets thrown my way!!! s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol: I wish I was 5'9"!!!! s:roll: :roll: s:roll: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Quote from: "mph"Something that hasn't been stated loudly and obviously enough for my liking is how amazing Liz's '2 sounds now. The combination of the A'PEXi intake, decatted manifold and H&S exhaust should be considered a must have for those who long for that real sports car sound.
Damn right, Having heard the stock exhaust the other day for the first time in a very long time, I couldnt be happier that mine is gathering dust in the corner rather than bolted to the back of my car... It truly is a piece of crap. The H&S is enough to assure you of 100% sportscar credibility on its own, add a decatted manifold, and you get it in Dolby Digital 5.1. For seasoning, add Intake system to taste, its certianly not nessesary, but theres no denying that it adds a certain enrichment to the sound.
How sad is this, I have been driving around with the radio off just so I can listen to it s:oops: :oops: s:oops: , it sounds sooooooo good s8) 8) s8) , deliberately changing down gears and booming off and laughing out loud at the pop sounds when slowing down, people must think that I escaped from a local asylum!! Thankyou again for making my car sound so much better!
Quote from: "GSB"Quote from: "mph"Something that hasn't been stated loudly and obviously enough for my liking is how amazing Liz's '2 sounds now. The combination of the A'PEXi intake, decatted manifold and H&S exhaust should be considered a must have for those who long for that real sports car sound.
Damn right, Having heard the stock exhaust the other day for the first time in a very long time, I couldnt be happier that mine is gathering dust in the corner rather than bolted to the back of my car... It truly is a piece of crap. The H&S is enough to assure you of 100% sportscar credibility on its own, add a decatted manifold, and you get it in Dolby Digital 5.1. For seasoning, add Intake system to taste, its certianly not nessesary, but theres no denying that it adds a certain enrichment to the sound.
I take it you mean mine then Grant? s:oops: :oops: s:oops: s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol: I know now. Only had the cats done and its made enough of a difference for me to start seriously considering doing something with the exhaust.............and here is me. Mr Anti-Mod eh? s:roll: :roll: s:roll: You're all a bunch of swines making me want to spend money!!! s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
And Liz's car DEFINATELY sounded pretty wicked! Don't worry Liz. Any car that sounds that good now should have no stereo at all! The engine is music enough!! Enjoy it! s:D :D s:D
Quote from: "John Woodward"I take it you mean mine then Grant?
.........and mine s:( :( s:(
Quote from: "GSB"Quote from: "mph"Something that hasn't been stated loudly and obviously enough for my liking is how amazing Liz's '2 sounds now. The combination of the A'PEXi intake, decatted manifold and H&S exhaust should be considered a must have for those who long for that real sports car sound.
Damn right, Having heard the stock exhaust the other day for the first time in a very long time, I couldnt be happier that mine is gathering dust in the corner rather than bolted to the back of my car... It truly is a piece of crap. The H&S is enough to assure you of 100% sportscar credibility on its own, add a decatted manifold, and you get it in Dolby Digital 5.1. For seasoning, add Intake system to taste, its certianly not nessesary, but theres no denying that it adds a certain enrichment to the sound.
I like mine at the minute with the A'pexi and H&S but please let me know of a future decat meet s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Quote from: "lilylaville"Quote from: "John Woodward"I take it you mean mine then Grant?
.........and mine s:( :( s:(
Dont fret, Its not the end of the world... I suffered great pains so that others may benefit. (Well, I lived without the car for a week while they made the prototype, not exactly suffering, but it was sunny and I had to drive a tin-top, so it was pretty bad...)
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Quote from: "Liz"How sad is this, I have been driving around with the radio off just so I can listen to it :
Not sad at all ....
I am known to roll down the windows to listen to passing alfas, ferraris, astons, lambos ....
Just wish my '2 sounded as good, or my wallet could support such grin-tastic mods
Does it really sound that much better without precats along with the H&S system s:?: :?: s:?: I may have to get rid of them earlier rather than wait another two years for the warrenty to end s:? :? s:?
Call me biased if you like, but if you think of where the pre-cats were is now like an echo chamber now they are empty, the airflow is no longer restricted and booms around the empty area, not a very technical description but how it appears to me.
And people notice it....
I had to have my wheel alignment done...didn't I Martin.. s:lol: :lol: s:lol: ... and when I was reversing out of the garage where I had it done, the man said that sounds really good what have you had done...they do know my car there so he noticed a difference. And today going down a country lane , nearing a bend I had to pass two cyclists, slowed right down and the lady said to her husband, that sounded nice...never had compliments before about how it sounds before and that has been two in a week....do it!
Quote from: "Liz"Call me biased if you like, but if you think of where the pre-cats were is now like an echo chamber now they are empty, the airflow is no longer restricted and booms around the empty area, not a very technical description but how it appears to me.
And people notice it....
I had to have my wheel alignment done...didn't I Martin.. s:lol: :lol: s:lol: ... and when I was reversing out of the garage where I had it done, the man said that sounds really good what have you had done...they do know my car there so he noticed a difference. And today going down a country lane , nearing a bend I had to pass two cyclists, slowed right down and the lady said to her husband, that sounded nice...never had compliments before about how it sounds before and that has been two in a week....do it!
Nice one; must sound awesome s:shock: :shock: s:shock: