So got up early for ding day gave the car a wipe down and I was on my way.
Engine light came on on the A500 flashing every so often then constant s:crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: s:crazyeyes: .
Had to ring RAC come look basically the fault found on the code reader was a misfire in cylinder 1 but swapped coils and still said cylinder one misfire pretty sure he swapped spark plugs and still the same.
Followed me to my local garage he said on Monday he will change spark plugs, if no luck a coil pack maybe compression test s:? :? s:? scared of spending loads going round the houses!
Any of you ever had this before ?
Want take it to matt but sort of been talked into seeing my local garage Monday s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
(he has been good to me in the past but my gut feeling is its going cost me just for him doing process of elimination where as matt will probably get to the problem quicker)
Also after getting to the garage the first time abs light flashing loads but that seems to have stopped now.
Any theories welcome s:) :) s:)
If it's not plugs or coils then you still need to eliminate the injector on No.1
Quote from: "mrzwei"If it's not plugs or coils then you still need to eliminate the injector on No.1
+1
the ABS flashing was the code reader still plugged into the socket when the car was started if so this makes the ABS flash for no apparent reason.
Quote from: "E"the ABS flashing was the code reader still plugged into the socket when the car was started if so this makes the ABS flash for no apparent reason.
Even after the code reader has been removed?
Quote from: "mrzwei"If it's not plugs or coils then you still need to eliminate the injector on No.1
Could I possible do this myself before I have to take it back?
Swap the injectors round to see if the misfire moves to another cylinder.
Chris
Swap the coil packs not injectors they an arse to seal.
I think Amy has already tried switching the coil packs Rich.
Quote from: "loadswine"I think Amy has already tried switching the coil packs Rich.
Yeah I have tried this, how do you swap injectors? Never done this before
There is a simple test you can try without stripping the injectors out, get a long screwdriver and use it like a stethoscope on each injector as the engine is running, you should hear a ticking noise if all is ok..... no tick..... no work s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Then you can replace the faulty injector, but you really need to know what you are doing as leaking seals + petrol ain't a good combination s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
Les
might of missed the coil swap bit. Then its likely the injector, the click is very clear doing les's method. The other thing thinking of it, what side of the engine did mister RAC man play with as its common for mechanics to look into our engine bays and look left for number one, when its actually on the right.
On the right first then just to make sure he tried the left :-/ I was hoping it just b a plug but wasn't to lucky s:-( :-( s:-( il give that screwdriver trick ago s:-D :-D s:-D
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Where am I putting the screwdriver to hear the ticking?
Think it my actually be misfiring now looking and hearing the exhaust it's juddering s:-( :-( s:-(
Place it on the injector itself and the other end of the screwdriver to your ear. You should hear it clicking.
If it's juddering too much to get the screwdriver in place just bring the rev's up a little till it's smoother
All injectors were ticking,
I think mr RAC man had a dodgy spark plug...
Iv just fitted all new plugs wiped down the coils abit disconnected the battery for 30mins. Just gone out for a little run feel like its running better and no light has come on! So fingers crossed its done! Touch wood!
I'm sure I went past you yesterday on the A50 near Crewe - about 2.30, if so do you work in Leek as your car looked familiar.
Plus if you need a second opinion just give me a shout.
Rob.
I now have a noise from the engine trying upload a video but can't s:-( :-( s:-(
No I don't work in leek rob but I'm always at a friends house over here :-) :-) :-)
Iv uploaded to YouTube here is the link
m http://youtu.be/HIyFX6o_dYI (http://youtu.be/HIyFX6o_dYI) m
You can here the engine ticking over but then that noise in the background
Quote from: "amz91"No I don't work in leek rob but I'm always at a friends house over here :-) :-) :-)
I've just noticed you only had it since March so it can't be you - but was that you yesterday on the A50??
Don't think so matey I was on the a500 going to ding put pulled up waiting RAC think I was back in biddulph by half two
Quote from: "FGrob"Plus if you need a second opinion just give me a shout.
Rob.
Do you know what this noise could be
m http://youtu.be/HIyFX6o_dYI (http://youtu.be/HIyFX6o_dYI) m
Quote from: "amz91"Don't think so matey I was on the a500 going to ding put pulled up waiting RAC think I was back in biddulph by half two
Sorry I ment A500 - I was coming back from the Ding Day at around 2.00pm.
That engine still sounds like it's got a misfire, what colour were the plugs when you pulled them out?
Always difficult to diagnose without being there but it almost sounds like the inlet manifold is hanging off???
All abit dirty one was black though
Quote from: "amz91"All abit dirty one was black though
which cylinder?
Quote from: "FGrob"Quote from: "amz91"Don't think so matey I was on the a500 going to ding put pulled up waiting RAC think I was back in biddulph by half two
Sorry I ment A500 - I was coming back from the Ding Day at around 2.00pm.
That engine still sounds like it's got a misfire, what colour were the plugs when you pulled them out?
Could of been driving to ding day again at that point so possibly :-) :-) :-)
Quote from: "FGrob"Quote from: "amz91"All abit dirty one was black though
which cylinder?
Not to sure now s:? :? s:? Possibly 3 or 4
Quote from: "amz91"Quote from: "FGrob"Quote from: "amz91"All abit dirty one was black though
which cylinder?
Not to sure now s:? :? s:? Possibly 3 or 4
Now is that the RAC 3 / 4 or the Toyota 3 /4 (left side of engine looking down at it)?? s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Also does the noise go when you rev it, is the engine smooth still ? Have you checked the new plugs for black deposits since you put them in?
Quote from: "FGrob"Quote from: "amz91"Quote from: "FGrob"which cylinder?
Not to sure now s:? :? s:? Possibly 3 or 4
Now is that the RAC 3 / 4 or the Toyota 3 /4 (left side of engine looking down at it)?? s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Also does the noise go when you rev it, is the engine smooth still ? Have you checked the new plugs for black deposits since you put them in?
Getting confused haha, left side, and yh it goes when driving revving you only notice it when you pull up and no not checked :-/
I remember what the sound is like now, it's the same as when you run the engine with a spark plug out of the cylinder, might be a burned out/sticky valve s:( :( s:(
Just had a quick look at the plugs the one on the left is the dirtiest out of them all, when I got back from the little run out I got out of the car and there was a smell coming from the engine,
so which one do you think the valve or the coil ?
So looking down at the engine the cylinders go in 1,2,3,4 not 4,3,2,1 like the RAC man thought?
Thinking about ringing Toyota for this part
Part no is 12204-22051 (Valve Sub-Assy)
Read on a different thread this cured the misfire ect
So I'm thinking its either that or a coil ?
Quote from: "amz91"so which one do you think the valve or the coil ?
Any chance of a pic of the plugs after a run?
If you've already swapped the coil and the error code didn't move with it, then it's not the coil.
A compression test would probably identify a valve problem but do the easy stuff first.
Right so checked all injectors and there all ticking, changed plugs, RAC swapped coils still cylinder 1. So next should be a compression test.
Why has me changing the plugs stopped the engine light coming on?
A failed injector that is not ticking would have the car running on 3 cylinders, but a partially clogged or fouled injector can still tick, but can also dribble too much fuel, pass too little or fail to atomise the fuel properly. This can lead to a misfire that is obvious at low speed but gets masked at higher speeds. Good luck getting it sorted, hope it is not an expensive fix.
Chris
Thanks chris, I know I'm dreading the bill s:-( :-( s:-( that's why I'm trying do as much as I can first going ask for a compression test today I think.
Never bin this bothered about my other cars iv just dropped it off at the garage and waited for a call but with my 2 I'm stressing and want it done :-) :-) :-)
one mechanic thinks it could be the headgasket s:crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: s:crazyeyes: s:crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: s:crazyeyes: s:crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: s:crazyeyes: s:crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: s:crazyeyes:
Get a second opinion if I was you. Being your location it might be worth it speaking to matt.
Take it to someone who knows these cars. I'm sick of these so called mechanics coming up with all kinds of rubbish. I don't know if its to try and fleece money from you or they pluck stuff out of thin air.
Head gasket would be very unlikely in my opinion.
Been speaking to Matt along with the mechanic all day we think the only other thing could be the injector so think Matt is going send me one as the part alone would of cost £130+vat.
I brought the car off matt so luckily still had his number s:-D :-D s:-D got to say that man is ace!
Aye where all looking for that trustworthy mechanic im lucky to say i have mine and its worth travelling 20 miles for him to do anything i cant manage and if im very nice he will let me skip VAT with cash but sssh s:) :) s:)
Think it's fixed! **touching wood!!**
Injectors!!
Only other thing now is think I need look into my steering! Getting a humming noise when in stationary from power steering but also cranks abit on full lock (crossing my fingers hoping its not the rack or pump! Or worse both!)
Let it stay that way! s:) :) s:)
Quote from: "amz91"Think it's fixed! **touching wood!!**
Injectors!!
Only other thing now is think I need look into my steering! Getting a humming noise when in stationary from power steering but also cranks abit on full lock (crossing my fingers hoping its not the rack or pump! Or worse both!)
The humming noise is VERY common.
How do you stop it ? Swear its started since I disconnected the battery :-s
You don't!
Turn the audio up s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Seriously, it is a known issue and very annoying. Just to check, it should stop if you turn the wheel slightly when you are stopped but it will start again after a bit.
Mine did it for the five + years I had it.
the reason it hums ........................................it don't know the words s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Quote from: "ray835"the reason it hums ........................................it don't know the words s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
s:lol: :lol: s:lol: I like it! s:lol: :lol: s:lol: