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Title: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: keljon on February 16, 2016, 15:27
first mock up of turbo /  chargecooler plumbing

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final spec will be
r33 gtst ball bearing turbo
ebay cast t3 manifold
sports cat
single silencer with bumper outlet for tailpipe
ebay sandwich plate for oil feed
pace chargecooler
forge dumpvalve
AEM wideband with gauge
Greddy emanage ultimate with pressure sensor
MWR 630 injectors (thanks MattPerformance)
ACT Clutch
ultimate shifter bushes
PU strengthened engine mounts

Hardtop
Facelift front bracing
Matts chassis brace
KYB shocks with tein springs
Rota Grid 17x9 rear, 17x8 front
Braided brake hoses and rebuilt calipers with decent fluid

odb2 bluetooth adaptor with android tablet for torque and racingmeter pro apps

so far costs have been quite low as been picking up used parts where i can
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: shnazzle on February 16, 2016, 16:03
Well done. Looking forward to the end result
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: stupink on February 16, 2016, 22:31
Mine got from that stage to on the road pretty quick, looks like most the parts are there now.  mines on the road nearly all the time now if you want a spin to see what they're like boosted.
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: keljon on February 16, 2016, 22:45
I have most of the bits, need to order and build the exhaust, just finding the time as putting a bathroom in as well at the moment, yeah be good to see what yours is like, how's the traction control?
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: secla on February 16, 2016, 23:55
Quote from: "keljon"Rota Grid 17x9 rear, 17x8 front

Are you extending/pulling the archs ?
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: CrazySX on February 17, 2016, 08:54
I am in the same boat as you, except I have a house to redecorate and a 200sx to sort out for MOT before I can fully concentrate on turboing the 2. I don't wanna end up with 2 cars off the road  s:( :( s:(
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: stupink on February 17, 2016, 09:06
Quote from: "keljon"I have most of the bits, need to order and build the exhaust, just finding the time as putting a bathroom in as well at the moment, yeah be good to see what yours is like, how's the traction control?
The TC I'd well worth it at this power level, less so in the summer but in the cold/damp it makes such a difference. It's switchable so if you pop out for a ride I can turn it off
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: Jrichards20 on February 17, 2016, 09:27
Think I picked up a rear spoiler from you wayyy back! You had a few mk2s didn't you? How long have you had the roadster?
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: keljon on February 17, 2016, 09:37
possibly but the current tyres are stretched so no clearance issues (not my doing, i bought them off a member on here)
i may roll the arches when the rubber needs replacing so i can run some wider tyres


Quote from: "secla"
Quote from: "keljon"Rota Grid 17x9 rear, 17x8 front

Are you extending/pulling the archs ?
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: keljon on February 17, 2016, 09:40
Quote from: "Jrichards20"Think I picked up a rear spoiler from you wayyy back! You had a few mk2s didn't you? How long have you had the roadster?

yeah had a few mk2 turbos but always wanted a roadster, bought one and loved the chassis but not the power
had it ages, has paint damage all over from what looks like brake fluid or similar, didnt pay much for it and has a hard top so i sold all the bits i didn't want (fancy head unit, style bar, wheels) which gave me  a very cheap platform to build something better from
had it a couple years where it has been parked up while i concentrated on other things and collected parts
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: Mark A on February 22, 2016, 23:21
Could you give me anymore details on the injectors? EV1 or EV6 and any part numbers?

Mark
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: jeffsimply on February 22, 2016, 23:41
Brilliant!

There's me trying to find a kit for however many grand.

Wish I had the balls to do this!
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: keljon on February 23, 2016, 09:56
i bought them off Matt Performance, they are the 630cc injectors Monkey Wrench Racing sell, plugs need changing but drop straight in


Quote from: "Mark A"Could you give me anymore details on the injectors? EV1 or EV6 and any part numbers?

Mark
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: keljon on February 23, 2016, 09:58
PM domtheplumb
he has most of a turbo kit for sale that i was going to buy but in the end i wanted to change so much of his kit it wasnt much more hassle to just piece it all together myself

Quote from: "jeffsimply"Brilliant!

There's me trying to find a kit for however many grand.

Wish I had the balls to do this!
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: Mark A on February 23, 2016, 16:17
Thanks but I was looking to see of I could source them in the UK and avoid shipping and customs charges etc. I think they are Siemens 630cc injectors but was looking for a part number so I could try to order some.
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: keljon on February 24, 2016, 09:57
i noticed the part numbers are different on the injectors i have so they will be modified items rather than something you can buy off the shelf, best bet for a budget setup is Astra VXR 470 injectors as they drop straight in with a bit of plastic trimmed from the top and cost £50 - £80 for a full set used (search stupinks build thread)
 

edit.... could be these,  m http://fuelperformance.co.uk/index.php? ... ct_id=5287 (http://fuelperformance.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=367_738&product_id=5287) m
i will get the numbers off them later for you

Quote from: "Mark A"Thanks but I was looking to see of I could source them in the UK and avoid shipping and customs charges etc. I think they are Siemens 630cc injectors but was looking for a part number so I could try to order some.
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: Mark A on February 24, 2016, 18:17
Cheers, interestingly those are the ones i'd been following on Ebay
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: keljon on February 29, 2016, 10:35
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tacked the flexi and sports cat ready for final welding
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: keljon on April 4, 2016, 14:57
most of it done now, just waiting for some small parts to arrive

most of the plumbing is done
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air filter installed under rear light
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exhaust mocked up
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bumper exit
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Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: s12vea on April 4, 2016, 16:21
It's coming a lone nicely mate. Boost is not far away
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: keljon on April 11, 2016, 10:41
chargecooler RAD fits nicely under front bumper bar
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Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: keljon on April 11, 2016, 11:01
glass wrapped the silencer and anything near the bumper to (hopefully!!!) stop it melting
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emanage ultimate is wired in and working after tracking down a wiring problem, spent ages trying to figure out why the idle was high, i have a bigger maf tube so figured it could be that so tested with the original part, swapped out my o2 sensor (i have both manifold sensor plugs running off one sensor) checked about 10 times for vacuum leaks and in the end concluded it has to be the IAC valve so stripped it all down and yeah seized solid, cleaned and reassembled and idle is perfect when warm at 800rpm

took it for a quick drive and turbo looks to be a really good choice as spools up around 2.5k so should make a really responsive car, clutch is slipping (i have a new one to fit but was hoping i might get away with the standard one on stock boost lol)
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: Anonymous on May 7, 2016, 06:18
This topic gave me a lot of ideas. Thanks dude
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: keljon on May 9, 2016, 12:25
no problem, glad you found it helpful
Quote from: "Baloo"This topic gave me a lot of ideas. Thanks dude
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: keljon on May 9, 2016, 12:27
new clutch fitted
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modified the engine mounts while it was all in bits
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also fitted an AEM wideband as the innovate one i had was giving me some odd readings
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: 1979scotte on May 9, 2016, 14:04
Good work.
Not heard anything bad about innovate gear before.
Do you think you just got a dodgey sensor?
Is the AEM ?
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: stupink on May 9, 2016, 15:09
Innovate certainly used to need calibrating in fresh air, *then* install the sensor. Bit of a pain in the bum really. Aem just plu and play.
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: keljon on May 9, 2016, 16:14
possibly a dodgy sensor but if you google it, you will see a lot of people have problems with the innovate kit so i decided to replace it with an AEM wideband which i have heard great things about.  certainly very easy to install
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: Mark A on May 9, 2016, 21:10
Good progress

What clutch you using?

How did you do this and does it work ok?  "i have both manifold sensor plugs running off one sensor"
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: stupink on May 9, 2016, 22:17
Quote from: "Mark A"Good progress

What clutch you using?

How did you do this and does it work ok?  "i have both manifold sensor plugs running off one sensor"

Been  running mine like it, works well, just put the signal to both inputs, and put a resister across the one that doesn't have a sensor so it thinks the heater is working(or leave old sensor plugged in)
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: keljon on May 9, 2016, 22:38
Quote from: "Mark A"Good progress

What clutch you using?

How did you do this and does it work ok?  "i have both manifold sensor plugs running off one sensor"

It's an ACT HDSS rated for 150 - 299hp and upto 233 lbft
Initial impressions are great, slightly heavier pedal but feels stock apart from that.

Both manifold plugs are wired to a single sensor and I have a resistor on the post cat sensor.
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: Mark A on May 10, 2016, 07:28
Sorry, I was interested to hear if you'd spliced and joined the wires, which ones or did you by a plug & play option?

Just interested in a bit more detail as I think this is a neater option than another sensor in the downpipe for me.
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: keljon on May 10, 2016, 08:20
Yeah spliced and joined the wires for the manifold sensors so it's all wired to a single sensor
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: keljon on May 10, 2016, 16:47
here you go, second post down shows you how to wire it all to one sensor
i used crimps and shrinkwrap because you cant really solder the cables very well as they are stainless i think
 m http://www.spyderchat.com/forums/showth ... x-solution (http://www.spyderchat.com/forums/showthread.php?56490-PPE-OBX-O2-sensor-exhaust-header-fix-solution) m
Title: Re: Driveway Turbo Build
Post by: Mark A on May 10, 2016, 22:03
Cheers