Hi,
As the first part of my MR2 history is the same as Patrick's (shnazzle), I'm going to shamelessly copy-paste the first paragraph from him:
Thanks for visiting my RR thread.
My love affair with the Toyota MR2 Roadster started in 2012 when we impulse-purchased a 52 plate black pre-facelift MR2.
It was in a hell of a state, but after a good service, some new tyres and some love and care I absolutely loved it to death. I resurrected it from near-scrap and it felt great.
It fueled a love for the MR2 and soon after, "Snuggles" was traded in for a facelift Sable MR2 with the intention of keeping it for good.
The Sable was registered to Patrick, so this kind of became "his" car, even though it's ours and we went to all MR2ROC events together.
I had little say in what was done to it.
Too many "who's going to drive" arguments ensued so...started looking for my own.
After being enticed by a few MR2s on AutoTrader, Matt (mattperformance) came with a once-in-a-lifetime offer to buy a mint condition SP240 turbo converted MR2 from him.
I went for it! Seemed silly not to.
Without further ado!...
IntroductionJack the Ripper (to be explained later), my 2005, black, full carbon-wrapped, SP240 turbo MR2 with only just under 21,000 miles when purchased. Obviously full service history, most of which done by Matt himself.
The interior is a bit marmite, but I love it! I even said before buying this that I'd want an MR2 with a white/red interior. It was meant to be.
SpecPerformance/Longevity- Silverstone Performance (SP) SP240 turbo kit (est. power = 235hp)
- SP12 17" alloys
- SP dual exit exhaust with 200 cell sports cat.
- Dastek Unichip ECU
- Dastek Injector Overdrive module
- Dastek MAP sensor
- Boost Control solenoid
- Uprated clutch assembly
Handling- TTE lowering springs
- TRD quickshifter
- Toyota Team Europe (TTE) middle chassis brace
Exterior- Zunsport stainless steel grill kit (front and rear)
- Full carbon (black and silver) wrap
- Ducktail spoiler
- TRD "Roll"/Style bar
- C-One side intake scoops
Interior- Pioneer double-DIN headunit
- Full interior re-trim with red and white leather (consoles, door cards, etc)
- Removable dashcam
- Screaming chicken Midship Runabout steering wheel badge
HistoryIt was a 4hr drive down to Matt's to pick up the car, but we organised a trip down quickly! Drove down in the Sable and picked up "Jack".
Matt had cleaned it up nicely and it was sitting in his courtyard ready to be admired by us. Test drove it, paid the man, had a chat and 4hrs back home.
Half way down, the dreaded EML came on... bets were placed on o2 sensor.
Correct we were.
o2 sensor replaced a couple days later, car ran nicely again.
Also noticed that the boost solenoid was disconnected when we got home! The whole time it was only running at about 30% power.
Plugged that in and all and blasted myself into the next dimension on the first test drive with the solenoid plugged in.
Then, inevitably, Patrick had a go. Came back home with the wonderful news that not all was well.... it was hitting "boost cut". So there was an issue.
Phone calls with Matt etc etc, couldn't find the solution. Nooooooo....
The next day, I decided to take Jack offroading. It wasn't entirely intentional I must say. I decided the MR2 wasn't suitable for offroading when it couldn't get through a bush. So backed it out and admired the newly scratched carbon vinyl.
Not so pristine anymore! I'll get it sorted...
After a few more days, a new code! P0420...lovely!
I've been introduced to OBD2 and code readers. There probably aren't many women out there with Torque app on their phones to read error codes on their car.
Patrick logged the fueling and o2 sensors and established that the cat was gone. ARGH!!!
So, replaced the cat and it was like a new car! Drove so sweet. And...boost cut gone!
Called Matt, everybody rejoiced.
Loving the car. It's so fast (and a bit scary) and requires a very light right foot. NO use of the accelerator in the corners lest thee be in a hedge (again).
But having said that, it's perfectly controllable. If you treat it with respect, it's tame and linear. Put your foot down and the kn0b end in Jack comes out.
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so today we decided to start removing the vinyl from the car, I know this seems like an odd thing to do, however, it looked an utter mess since I 'off-roaded' it, the bumper was covered in scratches as was the bonnet. The plan is to have a full respray at some point in the near future, so the vinyl has to come off. We trooped off to B&Q this morning to get a heat gun and set to work this afternoon, its not the easiest job in the world, and i would say that patience is key. As you can see from the pictures we managed to get a decent way through it in 2 hours.
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Looks nice I think I have a set of seats that used to be in that car sides are the greyish colour and the centres are red
Quote from: "cabbydave"Looks nice I think I have a set of seats that used to be in that car sides are the greyish colour and the centres are red
Oh really? The seats that are in there now are a bit crap tbh
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I think it will look better once removed, I imagine there is plenty of hours left removing the wrap.
Keep the pictures coming
I will send Patrick a photo
Quote from: "s12vea"I think it will look better once removed, I imagine there is plenty of hours left removing the wrap.
Keep the pictures coming
I think it will aswell, and the paint work is in canny nick underneath (for its age). I think theres probably about another 8 man/woman hours to go on it
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Quote from: "cabbydave"I will send Patrick a photo
Can't believe you actually have the original seat covers custom made for this car!!
But as Helen says, it would definitely make the red/white scheme too much to handle. PRob going to put the CElica seats in
Progress is being made
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Hi Helen
Who is the ugly bugger attacking your car with a heat gun?
Looks foreign to me.
A more subtle exterior for sure.
Yep, that's the weird foreign bloke that follows me about, thought I'd have him doing some jobs today.
It's definitely looking more subtle, I think I prefer it with the wrap off
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It's looks much better, the foreign guy has done you proud
Cheeky sods.
It does look much better. And, the interior looks miles better now. I think the interior was very in-your-face because the car was so matte. Now that the car's shiny (from a distance) the interior totally comes into its own
Quote from: "s12vea"It's looks much better, the foreign guy has done you proud
What do you think of the silver vents on the sides? I'm not sure about them, but they aren't painted underneath the wrap, so I'd have to get them resprayed
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I'm not a fan of those vents I would have the standard ones, maybe body colour would work better if your keeping them.
Its coming along nicely, I prefer it "without" and would also have those vents sprayed body colour.
Looking forward to seeing that interior in the flesh at Ding day!
The interior looks a lot better without the wrap, which sounds strange, but I think it was too lairy with the wrap and the 'in your face interior'. Think I will take the wrap off the vents and have them sprayed black. My plan is to have the entire car resprayed, but that will happen in time
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Is the paint damaged from removing the wrap?
Quote from: "s12vea"Is the paint damaged from removing the wrap?
A little bit, but just around the headlights, and its very slight. Patrick says it will fix easy with a touch up pen. The rest is grand, there's a few scratches that were there before the wrap was put on. Wrap is a bit of a swine to get off, we've both got sore hands
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He doesnt have much choice but to follow you does he.
I mean he has no chance to overtake in his non TURBO 2. s;) ;) s;)
If keeping the c2 style vent you need some kind of body kit or spats and skirts at a minimum.
Body colour would be the way to go eventually but they look ok for now.
I'm not a massive fan of body kits tbh, but I agree that it does need something. Patrick gave the bonnet a polish today and its starting to look pretty nice
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Quote from: "HereComesTheWife"I'm not a massive fan of body kits tbh, but I agree that it does need something. Patrick gave the bonnet a polish today and its starting to look pretty nice
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Something or they have to come off for me.
How deep are the scratches on the paint? Will they buff out
Most of them are OK, but the one on the door is pretty deep. We will have to see what we can do with it
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I like the side vents a lot. Mold them and sell me the molds ahaha
Quote from: "Baloo"I like the side vents a lot. Mold them and sell me the molds ahaha
No need haha. The maker of them is on this forum hahaha! "headcase" is his username
I like! I don't envy the task though! I bought a 3.5t box van for my single seater 3 years ago and have only managed to strip one side of the old companies logo off so far!
Quote from: "Swan_Connery"I like! I don't envy the task though! I bought a 3.5t box van for my single seater 3 years ago and have only managed to strip one side of the old companies logo off so far!
I can see why, taking the wrap of a tiny little mr2 is one thing, I wouldn't fancy doing an entire van!
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Wrap completely off now, and the paint work all polished. Its looking pretty nice if I do say so myself
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That looks so much better. Are you going to paint the side scoops?
Quote from: "mxcum167"That looks so much better. Are you going to paint the side scoops?
Yeah i think so, I'm not so keen on them being silver. I was going to have the whole thing resprayed, but I think that will come later
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Quote from: "HereComesTheWife"Quote from: "mxcum167"That looks so much better. Are you going to paint the side scoops?
Yeah i think so, I'm not so keen on them being silver. I was going to have the whole thing resprayed, but I think that will come later
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Why dont you wrap it? s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Quote from: "1979scotte"Quote from: "HereComesTheWife"Quote from: "mxcum167"That looks so much better. Are you going to paint the side scoops?
Yeah i think so, I'm not so keen on them being silver. I was going to have the whole thing resprayed, but I think that will come later
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Why dont you wrap it? s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
I never want to see wrap again!
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Jack was crashed into a few weeks ago by some numpty who couldn't stop at a roundabout. His insurance have admitted full liability, so at least that bit sorted out.
Car is off to the garage on Wednesday for a full check to see exactly what's broken, we know it had a bent strut (we've put a new one on), the hub is bent, alloy is a little chipped, panel is bent and scratched, side scoop has dropped off and oddly the passenger seat belt will no longer go back in (don't know if that is crash related)
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How difficult was it to get the side vent off? Do any damage to the vent? (presuming it wasn't damaged in the accident?)
When the guy crashed into the car it dropped off! So not hard to get off at all. It got a tiny little chip in it and that's all
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Hope you get Jack back up and running soon, wishing you the very smoothest of insurance resolutions.
Looking at that first photo is truly upsetting! Some people just go into autopilot and don't think!
Hope you get sorted quickly to enjoy the summer!
Hope he comes back straight!
That seatbelt could be a worry. s:-( :-( s:-(
Quote from: "jinxedkitten"Hope you get Jack back up and running soon, wishing you the very smoothest of insurance resolutions.
Thanks JK, dealing with insurance companies is the worst
Quote from: "nadeemxb"Looking at that first photo is truly upsetting! Some people just go into autopilot and don't think!
Hope you get sorted quickly to enjoy the summer!
The guy said he pressed the accelerator instead of the brake! Not sure how that happens tbh. I'm hoping he's fixed soon too, I can't wait to get out in the sun.
Quote from: "StuC"Hope he comes back straight!
That seatbelt could be a worry. s:-( :-( s:-(
I have no idea what's up with that. Seat belt seems to be working ok, but it won't go back in without manual intervention, it's weird
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Quote from: "HereComesTheWife"dealing with insurance companies is the worst
Amen to that sister! s:-( :-( s:-(
Quote from: "HereComesTheWife"Quote from: "StuC"That seatbelt could be a worry. s:-( :-( s:-(
I have no idea what's up with that. Seat belt seems to be working ok, but it won't go back in without manual intervention, it's weird
I viewed a 2 once with the exact same issue. Someone suggested that the pre-tensioner could have fired causing the issue. I didnt fully understand this, but thought I'd throw it out there.
Quote from: "StuC"Quote from: "HereComesTheWife"dealing with insurance companies is the worst
Amen to that sister! s:-( :-( s:-(
Quote from: "HereComesTheWife"Quote from: "StuC"That seatbelt could be a worry. s:-( :-( s:-(
I have no idea what's up with that. Seat belt seems to be working ok, but it won't go back in without manual intervention, it's weird
I viewed a 2 once with the exact same issue. Someone suggested that the pre-tensioner could have fired causing the issue. I didnt fully understand this, but thought I'd throw it out there.
I'm going to ask the garage to have a look at the seat belt when it goes in, so hopefully I'll find out what the issue is. Could do without finding any more issues for a while s:D :D s:D
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Anymore updates on this helen?
Has your dutchmen got that boost gauge hooked up yet?
Least he could do after murdering your car.
No update at all! Car went into garage for a full quote on Wednesday, and we are STILL waiting for the quote to be sent to us. First they were typing the email address incorrectly, now I have no clue what they are doing. I just need it to send to the insurance company so they can send me a bunch of cash to fix it
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Quote from: "HereComesTheWife"No update at all! Car went into garage for a full quote on Wednesday, and we are STILL waiting for the quote to be sent to us. First they were typing the email address incorrectly, now I have no clue what they are doing. I just need it to send to the insurance company so they can send me a bunch of cash to fix it
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I am sorry to say this, but i think they will write it off based on the amount of damage and money required to repair.
A new quarter
Wheel
hub
shock
Seat belt reel.
whats the car worth? 5k? 40% of 5k is 2k. I reckon when you factor in paint and labour it will come to more that 2k.
You could look at this as a good thing, cash in on insurance, buy the car back for pennies, and use the cash from insurance for a bigger turbo s:D :D s:D
As for the seatbelt, sounds like the seat belt re-tensioner has popped. Did you have a passenger in the car at the time? I have a spare passenger one if you need it.
Tis exempt from write-off. So won't happen.
They just need to decide on the cash in lieu amount
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Quote from: "shnazzle"Tis exempt from write-off. So won't happen.
They just need to decide on the cash in lieu amount
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I am puzzled, never heard of that before. How do you get said exemption?
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Quote from: "CrazySX"Quote from: "shnazzle"Tis exempt from write-off. So won't happen.
They just need to decide on the cash in lieu amount
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I am puzzled, never heard of that before. How do you get said exemption?
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By having a "specially modified" policy, a 2005 and low mileage. Basically they recognised that the car is worth more than the book value, i.e....they can sell it for a lot more than 2500. So, they weren't going to write it off and pay out instead.
The confusion still lies around the difference between cash in lieu and just paying it. I think the simple difference is that with cash in lieu, you pick the garage. Otherwise it'll jsut go to a (as cheap as possible) repair man linked to the insurance.
Hopefully you can get things sorted quickly so you can get the car back on the road for the "British summer"
Quote from: "s12vea"Hopefully you can get things sorted quickly so you can get the car back on the road for the "British summer"
Pretty sure that was last week.
It was nice while it lasted lol
Even the hot tropical countries get monsoons, that's all it was today! s;-) ;-) s;-)
Weather was terrible today. Heavy downpour for most of the afternoon, BBC weather shows a few dry days
Let's hope so.
Quote from: "shnazzle"Quote from: "CrazySX"Quote from: "shnazzle"Tis exempt from write-off. So won't happen.
They just need to decide on the cash in lieu amount
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I am puzzled, never heard of that before. How do you get said exemption?
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By having a "specially modified" policy, a 2005 and low mileage. Basically they recognised that the car is worth more than the book value, i.e....they can sell it for a lot more than 2500. So, they weren't going to write it off and pay out instead.
The confusion still lies around the difference between cash in lieu and just paying it. I think the simple difference is that with cash in lieu, you pick the garage. Otherwise it'll jsut go to a (as cheap as possible) repair man linked to the insurance.
Aha ok.. but surely there must be a value to work with. Maybe I am being thick. How much is a sp240 worth nowadays? I wouldn't had thought more that 6k?
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This is a very nice low mileage example. I'm sure an agreed value would of been arranged as part of the policy.
It's hard to say what it's worth in reality isn't it? I would guess you are right at about 6k. The insurance said they would go up to 2.5k for repairs
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Whats the news on this?
I'm hoping back on the road by now.
So far this is the fun history;
- Dude crashes into car.
- Car gets picked up the next day from parking lot near accident scene and dropped home
- Car sits around while we mess around with insurance. New strut put on at home in the meantime
- D1ck around with insurance and garage to get quotes for fixes. Insurance decides on cash in lieu but require a breakdown of costs
- Garage 1 becomes unresponsive and provided questionable diagnosis of repairs and I give up on them.
- Garage 2 involved through recommendation. Quickly assess the car correctly and put in a full quote to insurance company
- quote not received by insurance. Garage sent to wrong insurance company (within same group...computer system FAIL)
- reminder to get quote
- quote not received by insurance (garage sent to wrong place again it seems)
- reminder to get quote
- Quote received!!! Hazza!! Assigned to engineer at insurance
- ...waiting...
I made my 10th call to the insurance today to make sure the quote arrived and that they're working through it quickly to send the approval to the garage.
Fingers crossed for next week...
Yay insurance companies. s:-( :-( s:-(
You have my empathy.
Well its moving forward that is good.
Anyway Patrick its been nice knowing you.
When will you be heading back to Holland?
It should move along quite quickly now that the quote is being processed. Has Patrick got to wear his pants of shame every day until its repaired?
It least that long I reckon.
Quote from: "1979scotte"Well its moving forward that is good.
Anyway Patrick its been nice knowing you.
When will you be heading back to Holland?
As I'm not a registered resident of Holland I'm not sure where I stand there haha!
Things are definitely going to be a pain in the ass for me in a few years... But I'm staying to annoy you s:) :) s:)
Quote from: "shnazzle"Quote from: "1979scotte"Well its moving forward that is good.
Anyway Patrick its been nice knowing you.
When will you be heading back to Holland?
As I'm not a registered resident of Holland I'm not sure where I stand there haha!
Things are definitely going to be a pain in the ass for me in a few years... But I'm staying to annoy you s:) :) s:)
Your staying?
But surely you are one of those nasty foreigners who are taking all our jobs and ruining our NHS.
We voted out you HAVE to leave. s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
But what will those benefit families do that I've been supporting with taxes for all these years? It wouldn't be fair of me. I need to support the jobless beer-swilling,Jeremy Kyle watching porch dwellers.
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His little bag is being packed now, it consists of 2 tshirts and pants of shame....just had a thought, our daughter is half Dutch, I think she should go too [GRINNING FACE WITH SMILING EYES]
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Hold on....
Why isnt he wearing the Pants Of Shame? Get them out of the bag quickly!
Quote from: "shnazzle"But what will those benefit families do that I've been supporting with taxes for all these years? It wouldn't be fair of me. I need to support the jobless beer-swilling,Jeremy Kyle watching porch dwellers.
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Why pre-fl vents were put on we'll never know...
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I think we are all very pleased for both of you.
Hope those pants arent itching!
Quote from: "Topdownman"I think we are all very pleased for both of you.
Hope those pants arent itching!
I'm so pleased I've got it back. Went for a nice little drive around the roads of Northumberland, couldn't be more happy
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New nerbs arrived today. They look great, so happy with them
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Glad youve got jack back helen.
Whats happening with the turbo.
Quote from: "1979scotte"Glad youve got jack back helen.
Whats happening with the turbo.
We need some vacuum hose clips to get the boost gauge fitted. The boost solenoid is disconnected for now, just until I know what's going on with it
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Quote from: "HereComesTheWife"Quote from: "Topdownman"I think we are all very pleased for both of you.
Hope those pants arent itching!
I'm so pleased I've got it back. Went for a nice little drive around the roads of Northumberland, couldn't be more happy
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Very pleased to read this! Great news Helen.
PS. A quick note to Patrick
Just to be clear I do hope the "pants" are on and itchy...
Scoops now sprayed black, and being left to stick overnight. Hope they look good when it's finished
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No pics of Jack's new shoes and vents without tape? s:) :) s:)
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I cant help but say that i think perhaps the priority should be getting the car running correctly.
Quote from: "1979scotte"I cant help but say that i think perhaps the priority should be getting the car running correctly.
Getting wheels and side vents painted doesn't require a few days off work and a long journey.
To be fair, the ride and handling was making it an absolutely unenjoyable experience. So, if anything, this has been the more important of the things as it is perfectly driveable engine-wise.
Next thing; Essex! Or... Aberdeen.
I can't understand why you disliked the handling with the 17" I think mine drives perfect and a marked improvement over stock sizes.
As long as your happy with the swap that's all that matters s;) ;) s;)
Quote from: "s12vea"I can't understand why you disliked the handling with the 17" I think mine drives perfect and a marked improvement over stock sizes.
As long as your happy with the swap that's all that matters s;) ;) s;)
Likewise I can't understand why you think 17s are better. After the new wheels went on it was like a revelation. It felt like an mr2 again.
Each their own I guess
Quote from: "shnazzle"Quote from: "s12vea"I can't understand why you disliked the handling with the 17" I think mine drives perfect and a marked improvement over stock sizes.
As long as your happy with the swap that's all that matters s;) ;) s;)
Likewise I can't understand why you think 17s are better. After the new wheels went on it was like a revelation. It felt like an mr2 again.
Each their own I guess
Very true!
Quote from: "s12vea"I can't understand why you disliked the handling with the 17" I think mine drives perfect and a marked improvement over stock sizes.
As long as your happy with the swap that's all that matters s;) ;) s;)
Theyre not the only ones.
For me its the price of the tyres that really puts me off.
Quote from: "shnazzle"Quote from: "1979scotte"I cant help but say that i think perhaps the priority should be getting the car running correctly.
Getting wheels and side vents painted doesn't require a few days off work and a long journey.
To be fair, the ride and handling was making it an absolutely unenjoyable experience. So, if anything, this has been the more important of the things as it is perfectly driveable engine-wise.
Next thing; Essex! Or... Aberdeen.
Essex!
Its warmer for a start.
Quote from: "1979scotte"Quote from: "s12vea"I can't understand why you disliked the handling with the 17" I think mine drives perfect and a marked improvement over stock sizes.
As long as your happy with the swap that's all that matters s;) ;) s;)
Theyre not the only ones.
For me its the price of the tyres that really puts me off.
Agreed another factor.
I paid £220 for my tyres which want too bad.
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2454018
Wont get AD08R for that money.
Im not going back to T1R.
Great for the money and a sedate cruise but not the way i drive.
Your just so hardcore now a days s;) ;) s;)
Oy! Thread destroyers...
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Quote from: "shnazzle"Oy! Thread destroyers...
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Get stuffed MOD :p s;) ;) s;)
Quote from: "s12vea"Your just so hardcore now a days s;) ;) s;)
Didnt realise what a difference it made tbh. I think they are worth the outlay unless its your commuter.
So has Jack got new shoes?
It is funny how there have been a few non-believers of the AD08(R)s, which very reluctantly got them in the end, and then saw the light.
Yes they're expensive, but so worth it.
Although the handling on Jack is now immeasurably better since the Monzas went on, it's hard to say how much of it is also related to the tyres.
It's obviously a combination, but by jingle has it made the car come alive.
There are some very interesting facts here though:
SP12 7.5j et45 + Uniroyal Rainsport 3s 205/40/17 weighs 15.5kg-ish (Front)
SP12 8j et50 + Uniroyal Rainsport 3s 245/40/17 weighs 18kg-ish (Rear)
MonzaR 6.5j et38 + AD08R 195/50/15 weighs 15.5kg-ish (Front)
MonzaR 7j et38 + AD08R 225/45/16 weighs 19kg (Rear)
Size differences
Front: m http://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php?wi ... offset2=38 (http://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php?width=205&aspect=40&diameter=17&wheelwidth=7.5&offset=45&width2=195&aspect2=50&wheel_size=15&wheel_width=6-5&offset2=38) m
Rear: m http://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php?wi ... 8#isPage=1 (http://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php?width=245&aspect=40&diameter=17&wheelwidth=8&offset=50&width2=225&aspect2=45&wheel_size=16&wheel_width=7&offset2=38#isPage=1) m
As you can see, a massive difference in size.
The conclusion being, weight isn't everything. The TD Pro 1.2/SP12s are very strong and very light, the MonzaRs are from the "style" range, but are still quite light for such an alloy.
You didn't happen to weigh a stock Rim and tyre by chance? I recall stock and falken to be significantly lighter than 17s n to yo. Tend to recall about 3kg diff.
I will do when I can be bothered to whip mine off s:) :) s:)
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Whats happening with this?
Not sure how your old man finds the time to muck about with LEDs when there are turbos to fix.
Eeh I know. So ive been running the car with the boost solenoid disconnected, and its running like a dream, I'm happy now that the 'only' issues are when it's all connected up. Next step is to get it down to Essex and get redline to have look, getting Xmas out the way and some money (and holidays) saved up, and off we go
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Just realised I haven't posted any pictures of the new wheels!
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Very nice. :-) :-) :-)
Blatantly on behalf of Helen: s:) :) s:) s:) :) s:)
Car went to The Exhaust Doctor in Newcastle for a full exhaust leak check, tear-down and put back.
Tried as they might, they found no leaks. So, good news!
Boost gauge wasn't reading at all anymore so took the bins apart again and had a look at the electronics.
Turns out the boost pipe to the gauge was clamped between a bolt and the bin plastics. Explains the boost readings being off.
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Also, there was a sharp bend in the boost pipe into the boost controller. No kink, but didn't look great. So straightened that up and had a look at all the wiring.
The wiring could do with a bit of a clean up. Some exposed wires and iffy connections over time.
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Also found a surprise harness! Any clues what it might be?
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So the plot thickens; exhaust is fine, intake has been cleaned, no leaks. Stock wastegate works (holds nicely to 6psi) as it should.
But:
- Odd t-piece with cut boost and blocked off boost pipe was originally on the car between on the boost line from the engine to the boost controller
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- Odd expensive-looking harness found in bins that goes all the way to the front of the car by the radio, under the carpet.
- Wiring looks like it has been hacked a bit. The original soldered connections can be seen, but then there are some dirtier taped splices.
Took it for a drive with the solenoid disconnected; boosted nicely to 6psi with spikes to 7-7.5psi when you put you put the accelerator down quickly. Gauge working perfectly now and not misreading by 3psi.
Took it for a drive with the solenoid connected; boost was a bit more stunted. Progressive then sudden lurches and spikes as it climbed. Tried to put a bit more accelerator on quickly andit spiked to over 11psi!!!
Drove it while watching the boost gauge and feathering the throttle constantly to keep it below 10psi while accelerating and the car pulled like an absolute monster (albeit a slightly drunk monster).
Theory and probably the most likely scenario now;
Before the card was sold to Matt the car had a separate boost controller (hence the harness to the front of the car). When it was sold to Matt, the boost controller was kept.
The mystery T-piece was there to reconnect the boost line to the Dastek boost controller instead of the other one when the car was sold. I removed this when I put the gauge in.
The issues we're having are 100% map related. The external boost controller obviously took over some functionality of the dastek and I wouldbn't be surprised if the dastek unit was cleared.
So, next stop; mapping to get it all sorted out.
Been a hell of a journey to get to this point but we think the above is exactly what happened and explains the issues. The boost solenoid is just not being fired, so the boost just builds and builds until the boost cut kicks in and slams your face into the wheel. We were probably about a dozen such events away from total engine failure, especially with spikes as high as 12-13psi.
Quote from: "shnazzle"Blatantly on behalf of Helen: s:) :) s:) s:) :) s:)
Car went to The Exhaust Doctor in Newcastle for a full exhaust leak check, tear-down and put back.
Tried as they might, they found no leaks. So, good news!
Boost gauge wasn't reading at all anymore so took the bins apart again and had a look at the electronics.
Turns out the boost pipe to the gauge was clamped between a bolt and the bin plastics. Explains the boost readings being off.
Glad to know it's not just me who's been trying to use the bit where it opens up to a national speed limit (right turn next to the Ford dealer where the Exhaust Doctor's estate is located), as my MR2 fault-finding road! s:) :) s:)
Sounds like you're getting there at least, theory seems sound. I'm a bit disorientated by the photos but given one of them is near the console uprights, there's no chance one of those 'spare' connectors is for a CD changer, or sat nav/traffic unit?
Haha it wasn't actually. It was the A1 in this case. Stannington on-ramp to A1. Incline gradient to national speed limit. Perfect to testing load.
The cable definitely went from the bins to the radio. It's ecu-control related for sure.. But what...?
Is that mystery cable a Toyota cd /sat nav changer lead?
Quote from: "s12vea"Is that mystery cable a Toyota cd /sat nav changer lead?
That is a very very plausible option.
Hmm... Yes that's gotta be it.
Theory busted haha. Thanks Steve
Quote from: "shnazzle"Quote from: "s12vea"Is that mystery cable a Toyota cd /sat nav changer lead?
That is a very very plausible option.
Hmm... Yes that's gotta be it.
Theory busted haha. Thanks Steve
Glad to be of service s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
I still stand by the "needs a remap" though.
I'm sure it will help but the only thing I will say ..... why should it need remapping? What's changed since it was mapped?
Well that's the big unknown.
But we can't find any mechanical issues. And there is no physical reason why, with a boost controller, the boost should just continue to climb indefinitely.
I really shouldn't be seeing boost spikes like that.
The wastegate is fine, you can hear it. And the actuator arm moves very freely.
So, is the boost controller shafted? Is the boost solenoid shafted? Or is the map shafted?
Gotta be one of them. It runs absolutely fine without the solenoid.
So something is causing that solenoid to clamp shut, stopping the wastegate from opening
Are you going to take over to redline?
Quote from: "s12vea"Are you going to take over to redline?
Nah. Well, depending on the response I get. I've gotten in touch with RA Motorsport in Perth. Much much closer and they recently took on Russ Paton, who used to be part of DastekUK. And he's a bit of a Jap tuning legend up north.
So, if Russ still has his Dastek kit, we'll go there. If not, Redline.
Boost control solenoid must be shot.
Well thats what i would put my money on.
Was 13psi the most you saw before the boost cut?
Wonder if thats the most a t25 can make.
Well I wasn't going to try for more haha. 13psi was enough for me to know sh1t ain't right.
Solenoid or map/boost controller is my guess as well. Might be an idea actually to test the solenoid and wiring. If the car is throwing voltage down the line then the controller is fine (might still be map). Then I can try putting voltage down the solenoid to see if it opens.
13psi isn't something I would like the gauge to be reading. Most I've seen from any of mine has been 10.5psi
Be interesting to see what the solution is / outcome
I've just done a bit more "schooling" on boost controllers/solenoids and feel suitably enlightened.
Basically the effects we're seeing are that similar to a manual boost controller set incorrectly.
If you build up boost slowly it's fine, but then it lets it build too much. Your foot is the boost controller.
If you quickly build boost, it spikes to 12-13 for a millisecond and then drops. By that time the cut has kicked in and your head is sent flying over the steering wheel. But not before the intake sees that spike.
Solenoid testing next week s:) :) s:)
Lend us yours Scott? s:) :) s:) haha
Need it back by monday week. lol.
Quote from: "shnazzle"I've just done a bit more "schooling" on boost controllers/solenoids and feel suitably enlightened.
Basically the effects we're seeing are that similar to a manual boost controller set incorrectly.
If you build up boost slowly it's fine, but then it lets it build too much. Your foot is the boost controller.
If you quickly build boost, it spikes to 12-13 for a millisecond and then drops. By that time the cut has kicked in and your head is sent flying over the steering wheel. But not before the intake sees that spike.
Solenoid testing next week s:) :) s:)
Lend us yours Scott? s:) :) s:) haha
Which one do you need?
Got an SBC ID Kit you can have a lend of
Quote from: "Essex2Visuvesi"Quote from: "shnazzle"I've just done a bit more "schooling" on boost controllers/solenoids and feel suitably enlightened.
Basically the effects we're seeing are that similar to a manual boost controller set incorrectly.
If you build up boost slowly it's fine, but then it lets it build too much. Your foot is the boost controller.
If you quickly build boost, it spikes to 12-13 for a millisecond and then drops. By that time the cut has kicked in and your head is sent flying over the steering wheel. But not before the intake sees that spike.
Solenoid testing next week s:) :) s:)
Lend us yours Scott? s:) :) s:) haha
Which one do you need?
Got an SBC ID Kit you can have a lend of
Really generous of you dude but it's just the solenoid we need. Guess it has to be compatible with the Dastek boost controller
can you post up a pic or some specs of the solenoid?
Might have something in the [strike:d0xltiii]crap[/strike:d0xltiii] might come handy one day section
Just tried to put voltage through it and it definitely clicks audibly.
That doesn't mean it works though. But it is one half finger pointing towards the map again.
Also, when disconnected its definitely open towards the wastegate, so the valve does open/close.
Hence my suspicions are once again at the map
Here it is disconnected
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It could be that the solenoid is working as it should but there's an iffy seal inside somewhere allowing some leakage
But then again you mention that if you are gentle and progressive with the loud pedal its fine.
Yeah basically if I go f'kin Mikka Hakkinnen style on the accelerator and feather it keep it up to 10psi,it's a beast.
But I don't want to have to rely on my foot to be the boost controller s:) :) s:) And Helen really doesn't
This arrived today...no more tyre scraping for me
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Quote from: "HereComesTheWife"This arrived today...no more tyre scraping for me
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I don't know what it is but if you're that happy to receive it you've taken it to bed then it must be very special![emoji23]
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At a guess I'd saying it's something for rolling the wheelarch.
Yeah, It's an arch roller! I cracked my paint with mine! Lots of heating and lots of care and patience needed I think.
I wish you well with that. s:-D :-D s:-D
Heat and patience are not 2 words I'd normally put in the same sentance. s;-) ;-) s;-)
If I had known you wanted one I would have sold you mine!
Perhaps you can donate it to the club Simon, much like the luggage rack. Even better you could do arch rolling at DD!! Especially as your car will be with the paint guy all day as per usual!! s;-) ;-) s;-)
Quote from: "Topdownman"If I had known you wanted one I would have sold you mine!
I didn't know you had one. It wasn't too expensive anyway
Quote from: "JoeCool"Yeah, It's an arch roller! I cracked my paint with mine! Lots of heating and lots of care and patience needed I think.
Oh dear! That's made me worried. We managed to take the entire vinyl wrap off my car, so I'm hoping it doesn't require much more patience than that
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I'm expecting a "Patrick rolled my arches for me...went off talking" anytime soon! [emoji23]
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Quote from: "Call the midlife!"I'm expecting a "Patrick rolled my arches for me...went off talking" anytime soon! [emoji23]
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Ha ha ha! You're probably right
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You definitely need a heat gun to help the paint flex without cracking. Because of the inner arch stopping the roller you are only rolling the top 300mm or so of the arch but probably best to heat beyond this. I just ran the gun over the arch (keeping it moving) until the arch was warm/hot to the touch then rolled for a short while then a few more seconds with the heat gun and repeat. I was advised to unclip the rear bumper to allow the arch to move.
The inner arch will melt though so have to watch you dont get that part too hot.
Not sure I would want to do this to someone elses car!
PS Stu, Andy has resprayed quite a bit of my car since last Ding Day so hopefully there wont be too much for him to do this year!
Helen's auto maintainer here;
Yesterday she took it out for a spin (with me in my car) and she said it was just lagging. I pulled away from her on a 2nd gear pull, which obviously isn't right. Also said it felt flat in the higher revs.
So I said I'd look at it, and like a good husband, I did today. I plugged in OBD2 and mounted my phone up with Torque and went for a drive. -25 fuel trims basically all the damn time. Not good. Did indeed drive like a pile of poop. Hesitating.
Took it home and thought what we always think; first things first, clean the maf.
Pulled MAF out (easier said than done on the SP240 btw), went to clean it. For some reason I grabbed my spare MAF and put it alongside. It had different part numbers. Found this a bit odd so thought I'll try putting in the spare MAF.
Forgot the all-important computer reset and went for a drive.
Night/day. Fuel trims creeping slowly back up to -17, -15, -12, -11, and up it went. It was the damn maf!! Anyway, now hovering around -8 to -11 to 3 or 4, so, happy times.
Let that be another lesson people; clean and check yours MAFs! There's a reason why this is our first go-to when the car isn't fueling right.
Plugged the boost solenoid in to see if that solved the overboost issues. It definitely improved it by a fair bit. I had a good ol' hoon about in the back roads and scared the living bejesus out of myself. I forgot what 235-240hp felt like in the MR2.
I did get it to overboost once though so...unplugged again.
That is the tale of the Jack the MR2 for today s:) :) s:)
Great post Helen!
Interesting find.
I'll get the part number. See if I can get any wiser. I don't think the part is wrong, it's just that it was knackered s:) :) s:) Or very dirty. Could be that if I put it in now (I've cleaned it) the car is fine
EDIT:
22204-0J010
MB197400-3010
According to ToyoDIY this MAF is used in
Date range Model Frames/Options
01/2001-10/2005 TOYOTA YARIS SCP1*,NLP10
11/2005-06/2011 TOYOTA YARIS KSP90,NLP90,NSP90,SCP90
11/2001-01/2007 TOYOTA COROLLA CDE120,NDE120,ZZE12*
01/2002-01/2007 TOYOTA COROLLA CDE120,NDE120,ZZE12*
02/2004-01/2009 TOYOTA COROLLA VERSO AUR10,CUR10,ZNR1*
01/2003-10/2008 TOYOTA AVENSIS ADT25*,AZT25*,CDT250,ZZT25*
The 22204-22010 is the one used in the MR2 (officially, and is also the same as the one I now put in the car)
I'm assuming that someone put that MAF in by accident then??
No don't think so. It's a different part number but in that list of cars is a Corolla 1.8 1zz-fe. So must be compatible. The car was built by Matt, so this is highly unlikely. I'm assuming he wouldn't have MAFs for a Yaris or Corolla lying around for the fun of it.
Maybe it broke earlier and whoever owned it had it replaced by Toyota or another garage, and they got this part, which must have shown up as compatible
Or this is the MAF from factory and it's just dirty, or knackered.
Exciting day today. After a long time of having a car with odd symptoms, we inadvertently came to the solution today.
During Ding Day, our trusty ChrisGB had a go in an attempt to get closer to solution.
Between him and Carolyn, the next steps were to remove the boost solenoid and plug the turbo housing into the wastegate,and get the injectors cleaned.
On the drive back from Ding Day two outcomes were decided; get rid of the car (yes that's how sick we were) , or take it down a peg. Turn it into a TTE turbo basically.
Today in a spare 20 mins I unplugged the hose into the boost solenoid and plugged it into the wastegate. Then undid the cable tie on the hose when, to my surprise, the hose fell down and I noticed the other end wasn't attached to the turbo!
The boost hose had broken off at the turbo side,just after the jubilee clip.
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Connected it back up, went for a long drive.... Enjoying every second of the car as it should have been.
Next step, connect up the solenoid again. If we have a healthy SP240.. Happy says! If not, solenoid will remain off the car.
Now...
Can someone explain how it boosted to 6psi on the gauge (and not higher) even though the wastegate actuator wasn't even connected to the turbo housing?
What's it boosting now connected you have connected it up? I'm surprised it made 6psi + without it being connected.
Quote from: "s12vea"What's it boosting now connected you have connected it up? I'm surprised it made 6psi + without it being connected.
That's what puzzling the crap out of me.
Unless the hose was very brittle around that connector and it snapped when I undid the clip on the solenoid side.
And it was the solenoid at fault...
But then if it's that brittle that it would snap from me just undoing the other end, then it would never have held 10+ psi would it?
Was going to say brittle but like you said it wouldn't hold 10psi + very well.
The mystery continues I guess
Great read :-) :-) :-) and I don't really understand all the technical bits, hope you get it sorted soon. Your definitely working hard at it, reminds me I have time to get mine to where I want to be.
What does a 230 bhp MR2 feel like?
Quote from: "Garfy"Great read :-) :-) :-) and I don't really understand all the technical bits, hope you get it sorted soon. Your definitely working hard at it, reminds me I have time to get mine to where I want to be.
What does a 230 bhp MR2 feel like?
It feels bloody fast!!!
Quote from: "Garfy"What does a 230 bhp MR2 feel like?
Think supercharged lotus elise.
0 to 60 in under 5 if you want.
Its ok. s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Quote from: "shnazzle"Exciting day today. After a long time of having a car with odd symptoms, we inadvertently came to the solution today.
Connected it back up, went for a long drive.... Enjoying every second of the car as it should have been.
Now...
Can someone explain how it boosted to 6psi on the gauge (and not higher) even though the wastegate actuator wasn't even connected to the turbo housing?
Sorry I can't explain anything, but I am glad to hear the car is running really well!
Haha that'll do me
Sometimes Patrick, you just have to take the win! s;-) ;-) s;-)
Really pleased to see that you have a solution and the car is closer to what it should be. s:-D :-D s:-D
Yes indeed! I'm puzzled on one hand and on the other hand... F*** it!
Sweet! They are awesome, the smile on your face every time from the normal car plus a manic grin if you want it.
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Good news, Helen. Glad to hear it's finally doing what it's supposed to.
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Another interesting progression in the life of Jack.
Since bypassing the boost control solenoid, it's been running significantly better.
Ever the skeptic, today I let it warm up and got some readings on it. Not sure how I never noticed this but timing advance at idle was 25deg... that's rather over spec.
I added a few PIDs to Torque to read misfires and misfire advance degrees.
I revved the engine to 3.5k-ish a few times and looked at the screen.. 5 misfires. Well damn.
Reset the counter and revved it again... 3 misfires.
Heart sunk... ."NOW WHAT?!?!"
No codes. No fuel leaks from injectors. Nothing at first glance.
Then I remembered the spark plug ordeal a few months back. I was never comfortable with it running the BKR7E plugs. Not when other TTE/SP240 members were using BKR6E.
But we got BKR6Es and the car just stumbled and stalled all over the place. So put some new BKR7Es in and put the 6s in mine. All seemed fine.
Decided to give it another try. Pulled the 6s out of mine, put new BKR5Es in (as per stock spec) that I had in the garage. Took the 7s out of Helen's and put the 6s in.
Connected battery and fired her up.
No issues. In fact...quieter. Much quieter. Revved it. No misfires. Revved it harder. No misfires. Sounds more like a stock 1zz now. The deep heavy rumble is gone.
Took it out for a spin. Smooth. So smooth.
WHY THE F*** DID IT HAVE BKR7E plugs in?!??!
So far we've had a blocked 200 cell cat, replaced with a new one
2 dead o2 sensors
1 brittle and finally snapped wastegate hose
Loose bolts on turbo to cat pipe causing leak and dodgy o2 readings post-cat.
Duff MAF (tried the old one in my car after a clean. Didn't check maf reading because I'm an idiot, but fueling went sky high).
Colder plugs than necessary
The good news is...it's running more and more like a proper 1zz turbo. We'll get there. There's not a hell of a lot left is there? s:) :) s:)
Youve have had a bad run of luck, hopefully more of the good luck coming your way now.
Are you running boost controller yet?
Quote from: "shnazzle"Another interesting progression in the life of Jack.
Since bypassing the boost control solenoid, it's been running significantly better.
Ever the skeptic, today I let it warm up and got some readings on it. Not sure how I never noticed this but timing advance at idle was 25deg... that's rather over spec.
I added a few PIDs to Torque to read misfires and misfire advance degrees.
I revved the engine to 3.5k-ish a few times and looked at the screen.. 5 misfires. Well damn.
Reset the counter and revved it again... 3 misfires.
Heart sunk... ."NOW WHAT?!?!"
No codes. No fuel leaks from injectors. Nothing at first glance.
Then I remembered the spark plug ordeal a few months back. I was never comfortable with it running the BKR7E plugs. Not when other TTE/SP240 members were using BKR6E.
But we got BKR6Es and the car just stumbled and stalled all over the place. So put some new BKR7Es in and put the 6s in mine. All seemed fine.
Decided to give it another try. Pulled the 6s out of mine, put new BKR5Es in (as per stock spec) that I had in the garage. Took the 7s out of Helen's and put the 6s in.
Connected battery and fired her up.
No issues. In fact...quieter. Much quieter. Revved it. No misfires. Revved it harder. No misfires. Sounds more like a stock 1zz now. The deep heavy rumble is gone.
Took it out for a spin. Smooth. So smooth.
WHY THE F*** DID IT HAVE BKR7E plugs in?!??!
So far we've had a blocked 200 cell cat, replaced with a new one
2 dead o2 sensors
1 brittle and finally snapped wastegate hose
Loose bolts on turbo to cat pipe causing leak and dodgy o2 readings post-cat.
Duff MAF (tried the old one in my car after a clean. Didn't check maf reading because I'm an idiot, but fueling went sky high).
Colder plugs than necessary
The good news is...it's running more and more like a proper 1zz turbo. We'll get there. There's not a hell of a lot left is there? s:) :) s:)
You could consider this?
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Might as well s:D :D s:D
Quote from: "shnazzle"Might as well s:D :D s:D
The second part is right on the money about ramping up dealer charges!
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I've bitten the bullet and Saturday I dropped the car off at AK Automotive. Patrick went there for his wheel alignment and they're kind of the place to go around here for M X 5 work. Yes I know, I said it. Shame on me. But they do tons of engine builds and build race cars so we decided it was worth a shot.
So far they've been great!
Dropped the car off 3pm Saturday and got a call today at 1:30 to discuss the first findings.
We've fixed tons on the car that wasn't right, mostly from it standing on wasteland unused for so long, but the big issue turns out to be the ECU.
They found no obvious mechanical issues at all besides some small oil leaks which they will fix.
They plugged in the boost solenoid, took it for a good drive and measured stuff using complicated equipment stuff and it all works as it should, but the ECU is telling the car to be silly.
Needs a remap. Why?!
Any suspicions we had about the car having been tinkered with has been confirmed. It has definitely had a remap, and most likely for different parts that were taken off the car before it was sold to me.
So, getting prices now for a standalone ECU and getting it mapped how I like it.
Oil leaks were from an aged oil return feed and the sump seal. All else given the thumbs up.
They work mostly with MegaSquirt and Emerald K6 ECUs for their customers' MX5s/Evos/etc and their own Ginettas are running MegaSquirts as well.
Waiting for their quotes. Fingers crossed it's somewhat friendly.
Helen
initial observation is looking good. They appear to know what they are talking about. I'm pleased for you.
looking fwd to further updates.
and will look to blag a passenger ride so time next year
Great news Guys.
Hope you get him back soon in full health.
Shame you are missing full boost with the current driving conditions eh?
It's a shame someone chose to sell you a car with suspect tune.
Glad you are getting it sorted.
Bigger turbo and a charge cooler too? ;p
Hopefully they will be in touch today with a price to sort it all out. I was really disappointed to find out that the map is the issue, I was hoping for it to be something small and cheap (nee chance) once we've got that sorted in will start saving up to add extras to it.
Jason, hopefully it will be running a lot better by ding day next year so we can have a spin
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Thankfully Simon we have no snow here, it's pretty icy but nothing like what you have. Mr2 weather it is not!
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To give the benefit of the doubt, it's wholly possible the seller didn't know as it was the previous owner that did funny stuff with it.
And not enough not-so-funny stuff with it, like driving it s:) :) s:)
Wouldn't it be easier to just get your ecu mapped correctly?
Garage just called;
- sump removed, cleaned and resealed
- oil return pipe replaced
- waiting for oil filter to arrive; "The Big Freeze" strikes again....unbelievable.. and then fresh oil and fire it up
- alignment fixed. Some odd camber on the nearside front sorted (not sure how)
- MegaSquirt and Emerald not advised. The MegaSquirt has VVT, but can be a bit of an arse to get running with the 36-2 and 3-1 triggers on the crank and cam shafts, along with the kind of injection it has. Then there's the fact that it'd have to be run in-line with the existing ECU. Syvecs advised but not gone into because we'd be talking over 2k. So final conclusion was (as above) get it remapped and that should solve the problems. They also recommended getting an eManage Ultimate instead, if anything just to be able to allow access to more tuners while losing very little in the way of functionality (if any).
So, next port; remap or find EMUltimate, put a base map on myself and get it power mapped by a pro on dyno with boost control (either in EMU or via external boost controller).
Quote from: "shnazzle"Garage just called;
- sump removed, cleaned and resealed
- oil return pipe replaced
- waiting for oil filter to arrive; "The Big Freeze" strikes again....unbelievable.. and then fresh oil and fire it up
- alignment fixed. Some odd camber on the nearside front sorted (not sure how)
- MegaSquirt and Emerald not advised. The MegaSquirt has VVT, but can be a bit of an arse to get running with the 36-2 and 3-1 triggers on the crank and cam shafts, along with the kind of injection it has. Then there's the fact that it'd have to be run in-line with the existing ECU. Syvecs advised but not gone into because we'd be talking over 2k. So final conclusion was (as above) get it remapped and that should solve the problems. They also recommended getting an eManage Ultimate instead, if anything just to be able to allow access to more tuners while losing very little in the way of functionality (if any).
So, next port; remap or find EMUltimate, put a base map on myself and get it power mapped by a pro on dyno with boost control (either in EMU or via external boost controller).
I Have an EMU, P&P 1ZZ harness and the required boost sensor if you want to borrow them for testing porpoises? Can't do anything till the new year tho as its in the UK and I'm off to Finland for Christmas tomorrow
No testing will take place anymore s:) :) s:) In it for resolution now. But thanks!
Quote from: "shnazzle"No testing will take place anymore s:) :) s:) In it for resolution now. But thanks!
No worries
The offer is there if you want to go down the EMU route and see if it helps
Quote from: "Essex2Visuvesi"Quote from: "shnazzle"No testing will take place anymore s:) :) s:) In it for resolution now. But thanks!
No worries
The offer is there if you want to go down the EMU route and see if it helps
It would help for sure, but only because we'd have to get it mapped. But might as well spend that money mapping the stupid Dastek s:) :) s:)
Glad to see it getting sorted.
Keep forgetting about AK- has the experience even if it's on the wrong car! Lol
A proper map should see you right and able to enjoy the full power safely
Did you find someone local to map?
Decided for remap. Most likely from RA Motorsport in Perth.
The cost of a standalone (2000+) just isn't something I want to spend.
I know it's better, but plenty Sp240s out there running my ecu just fine.
So, as Steve says, a good map will sort it out. But I don't want it to be running full boost permanently. 240 is too much, most of the time. I want it to be as it is now, but without issues.
It will get a map selector thing so I can choose.
See what else they recommend at RA and go from there. Now to book a weekend away to get it done.
If you do go for a map selector see if they can sort you a viable map for 95 Ron fuel.
I know most places do it these days but sometimes you get caught out.
Can come in handy.
Good call.
Good shout Scott, trying to find 98 sometimes is a nightmare
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Quote from: "HereComesTheWife"Good shout Scott, trying to find 98 sometimes is a nightmare
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Tbh I don't have any issues around London.
However I have had to go to 3/4 different stations in the Midlands.
Scotland isn't good away from the big cities.
And someone told me Ireland is a nightmare.
There aren't many in Northumberland, and as we have no cities we have to stumble across one if we are out and about. The octane boost stuff has been a life saver on more than one occasion
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Quote from: "HereComesTheWife"There aren't many in Northumberland, and as we have no cities we have to stumble across one if we are out and about. The octane boost stuff has been a life saver on more than one occasion
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If it's that hard maybe just have it mapped to 95.
It will make less power which you would be happier with and be lighter on the wallet.
Hoooorrrraaaaayyyyyy! It's finally happened, my car actually runs like a proper car should.
We took my car down to RRR on Friday, where Gregg got started straight away and we enjoyed Carolyn's hospitality (I would give this hotel 5 stars on trip advisor).
On Sunday lunch time the car was ready. Gregg has given me a few settings to choose from: 95, low and high boost. I took Patricks silly hat from him and insisted we start at low boost (5 psi) ....even in this mode its like a different car; no stalling, no cutting out, no stuttering, it feels like a stock mr2 with a bit more power. Once we started the trip home on the motorway I had a go at hight boost (10 psi) which was great, it doesn't kick you in the arse, it's nice and progressive. For anyone who didn't know my car before, it was mental, it took off boosting at 13psi and there was nothing progressive about it, it was a hooligan. That is gone, its fast now but not rip your face off fast.
Here's the boring bit written by Patrick:
.. How rude...
For once Helen actually managed to cover most of it, even some technical stuff.
Gregg really worked his ass off. To give an example, the last stored log started at 23:30 last night. So he was at it until past midnight.
That's dedication.
He hit some issues with AC, immobiliser, fuel pump and wiring and for two of those there were easy outs. But instead he got the wiring diagrams for the MR2 and sat there and engineered a solution.
His words; "this is a daily car, everything needs to work as it does. I will figure it out". And by jingo the bugger did.
What this means is that everything works. It's as if the car came from factory with a turbo. Few little bumps in the map, but I've already sent logs for him to smooth out the VE table.
The power isn't anywhere near what it used to be on max boost, but that's a good thing! While 13psi was fun, the engine was probably not enjoying it.
It's max setting is 0.69bar ( 10psi) running a healthy 190hp measured at the wheels (230hp flywheel). But it's how it gets there where Gregg showed his understanding of what we wanted.
It's gear and load-based; 1st and 2nd limited to 5psi. Then all gears are limited to 5psi up to a certain throttle position. So, if you want nuts, you mash your foot and you get nuts progressively building to 10psi and holding.
That's it really. It's the MR2 a lot of people want. Worth every penny spent.
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Sounds like a job well done! :D
Might have to have a passenger ride.
Helen
Very happy for you.
Best hide the key now. ;)
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Sounds like a job well done! :D
Might have to have a passenger ride.
You are more then welcome to, think I'm going to use any excuse the drive it for a while
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Helen
Very happy for you.
Best hide the key now. ;)
Thanks Jason. I think he's been put off taking my car
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Have I?
Yes. I've been put off taking the freshly mapped perfectly running 200hp car.. That's right
Why am I reminded of that scene at the beginning of Mr & Mrs Smith.....
Very happy for all 3 of you.
(PS We all know he wants those sexy pants back)
Congrats Helen
Will we get to see your celebrity SP at Ding Day?
Glad you are both happy.
190 @ the wheels is a nice ammount.
Hopefully a happy reliable drivable car for the foreseeable.
So you could say it's "boosted your confidence "?
Proper made up for the 3 of you!
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Ah thanks everyone. Yep he will be at ding day, we were meant to be taking Patricks car this year but it doesn't seem wise with the issues it's having
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Quote from: Call the midlife! on June 3, 2018, 22:08
So you could say it's "boosted your confidence "?
Proper made up for the 3 of you!
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He's here all week ladies and gentlemen. Even though you're joking, it really has, car didn't feel like it's randomly going to be a wolly at any given moment, which is nice
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Quote from: Call the midlife! on June 3, 2018, 22:08
So you could say it's "boosted your confidence "?
Proper made up for the 3 of you!
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He's here all week ladies and gentlemen. Even though you're joking, it really has, car didn't feel like it's randomly going to be a wolly at any given moment, which is nice
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I remember our conversation on the Dales Drive when you said it genuinely frightened you at times so can only imagine how happy you must be to have a much more predictable car now.
I suppose it's going to be like learning to drive a new car now? That'll be fun!
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Quote from: Call the midlife! on June 3, 2018, 22:08
So you could say it's "boosted your confidence "?
Proper made up for the 3 of you!
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He's here all week ladies and gentlemen. Even though you're joking, it really has, car didn't feel like it's randomly going to be a wolly at any given moment, which is nice
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I remember our conversation on the Dales Drive when you said it genuinely frightened you at times so can only imagine how happy you must be to have a much more predictable car now.
I suppose it's going to be like learning to drive a new car now? That'll be fun!
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Yes it's like a whole new car, I can't wait to get it out on some proper roads and learn to drive it properly
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Quote from: Call the midlife! on June 3, 2018, 22:08
So you could say it's "boosted your confidence "?
Proper made up for the 3 of you!
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He's here all week ladies and gentlemen. Even though you're joking, it really has, car didn't feel like it's randomly going to be a wolly at any given moment, which is nice
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I remember our conversation on the Dales Drive when you said it genuinely frightened you at times so can only imagine how happy you must be to have a much more predictable car now.
I suppose it's going to be like learning to drive a new car now? That'll be fun!
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Yes it's like a whole new car, I can't wait to get it out on some proper roads and learn to drive it properly
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Recall Patrick saying and posting his is not well, There was the suggestion of parking next to his to compare zorsts.
I know I am on you poo list for going TTE but would still be good to put them side by side.
I might be on the look out for an SP
Congrats Helen!
So glad you have got the car working so well...now about that Sportivo suspension that Patrick was going to get you.,,
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@HereComesTheWife (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=23368) glad you have the turbo car/set up that suits your needs better.
Like your "not rip your face off fast". No point in having that if it results in 'reupholstering your seats fast' at the sne time.
I hope you can encourage Patrick to not take the boring motorway option to DD! 8)
I am also encouraged that you were in safe hands with Gregg. Some of those comments really help to build confidence in someone working on your pride and joy. :)
Great news. Glad to hear you finally have a working solution to your car & everything is now running as it should.
Lord knows you've waited long enough.
Chuffed for you.[emoji16]
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Quote from: Ardent on June 3, 2018, 23:13
Recall Patrick saying and posting his is not well, There was the suggestion of parking next to his to compare zorsts.
I know I am on you poo list for going TTE but would still be good to put them side by side.
I might be on the look out for an SP
You would never be on my poo list! Yesterday when we drove 5 hours up the A1, the sound of the SP was getting on my nerves, sometimes something a bit quieter would be nice!
Quote from: jvanzyl on June 3, 2018, 23:19
Congrats Helen!
So glad you have got the car working so well...now about that Sportivo suspension that Patrick was going to get you.,,
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Thank you! I don't think Patrick is going to buy me anything else again, I've had all my presents for the next 10 years :)
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@HereComesTheWife (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=23368) glad you have the turbo car/set up that suits your needs better.
Like your "not rip your face off fast". No point in having that if it results in 'reupholstering your seats fast' at the sne time.
I hope you can encourage Patrick to not take the boring motorway option to DD! 8)
I am also encouraged that you were in safe hands with Gregg. Some of those comments really help to build confidence in someone working on your pride and joy. :)
Ah Gregg was great and he's set it up exactly as I wanted it, he asked loads of questions and worked super hard on it. I'm a very happy camper
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Great news. Glad to hear you finally have a working solution to your car & everything is now running as it should.
Lord knows you've waited long enough.
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Eeh haven't I just! Im looking forward to getting out on the country roads and seeing what it does there. Hopefully there will be no more concking out in random places and worrying about getting home!
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Happy days Helen Whooooooo hooooooo!
Great news!
I just took Helen's car out (with her permission!) for the first time since it got the EMUBlack and since last night's slight tweaks by Greg from RRR.
All I can say is...I pooped myself a little.
These cars have no business having 10psi (10.7 actually) blasting through its little pipes.
I did a full boost and full throttle pull onto the A1 (up an incline) and let's just say that A) I'm glad there were no spying eyes and B) I was kicking off the adrenaline for the next 20 minutes.
The boost selector will remain firmly in position "Low". There's no call for that much power in a 2!
:D :o
Jack is for sale :)
https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?topic=66406.0
Simple reason; I never drive it.
Where is that "dislike" button!
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Jack is for sale :)
https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?topic=66406.0
Simple reason; I never drive it.
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Jack is for sale :)
https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?topic=66406.0
Simple reason; I never drive it.
Never thought I`d see this one for sale :o
I know, I just don't have time to drive it. I intended to drive it to work, but there's 11 speed bumps that I struggle to get over
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Quote from: HereComesTheWife on November 9, 2018, 19:46
I know, I just don't have time to drive it. I intended to drive it to work, but there's 11 speed bumps that I struggle to get over
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I kinda understand Helen
It's not really a daily driver.
Shame as you have finally got it sorted.
I hope it's bought by someone who can look after it properly and knows what a cracking piece of machinery it is.
I know, I finally got it sorted and now I'm getting rid of it. I've been thinking about it for a while, but I wasn't going to sell it to someone when it wasn't running nicely.
I'm not in a mad rush to get rid of It, so I'm happy to wait for the right buyer to come along
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Topic locked as obviously Jack is gone and is no more.