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Title: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on July 25, 2016, 09:57
Hi all, some of you may have heard about my project from my new members thread. I'm currently about two weeks away from getting started on it and I can not wait!! The main issue has been that I've been waiting to move house so that i'll have a garage to build it in.

(http://www.tributeautomotive.co.uk/images/PicsMrs200/mrs200main.jpg)

Theres a company called Tribute Automotive that make a panel swap kit using an MR2 Roadster as the base car. It will turn my little MR2 into quite a convincing replica of an RS200 although obviously missing the whooshy "BaaaaaaAAAAAAA (gear change) do do do do do bababang flame" to start with. The eventual plan is to gather enough bits to do a turbo conversion. According to the website, this would seem a perfect starter kit car for someone to take on. So, perfect for me.

http://www.mrs200tribute.wix.com/details

Heres my base for the project.

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/MR2_zpszeipumwd.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/MR2_zpszeipumwd.jpg.html)

A standard facelift roadster bought from James and his MR2 on this site. On the outside, apart from having a little hole in the exhaust flexi pipe and a missing spare wheel making the steering at speed a little less accurate than I'd expect, it would appear to be a happy little car. We'll see a bit more in depth what needs replacing when I get round to removing the panels and plastic frunk bits. Various bits will be sold off as they are removed which will help to fund the stuff I need below:

1. Headlights - Mk2 Golf
2. Sierra Sapphire tail lighs, seals and lamp holders
3. wheel spacers or 0 offset wheels
4. Rear window
5. Sierra door handles
6. Hard top (need this a bit sharpish so I can get going with the project!!)
7. Bonnet fasteners
8. Expanding foam, sealants, rivets, tech screws, nuts, bolts, rivnuts, random spare bits of wood and metal, and rose joints
9. Fraud badge for the front, MRS200 badge for the back
10. Paint..... too many options!
11. Loads more stuff to be added as I find I need it.........
12. Ford Sierra door handles
13. Wing mirrors off of er..... something...
14. Fog lights
15. Indicators

So, all I'm waiting for now is my house to complete this coming Friday, my mate to get round my mum and dads with his trailer to transport the car to its new home and lastly, the delivery of the body kit which will be ready as of this coming Friday. As its a new house though, I dare say the wife will require me to get on with some painting and DIY before she'll actually met me crack on with it all. I'll also need to secure the garage with some new door locks and wooden paneling before that happens!

Now before any of you start to tell me that a 1.8 or even a 1.8 turbo will be rubbish, upgrade to a 2zz with a blower, drop a V6 in etc etc. This is a project which is being done to a budget. I'm not made of money so it will be spent when available. Initially, I just want to replace knackered/worn parts and get it looking right. If cheap bits come up (manifold, exhaust etc) then I may splash out. The noisier the better!
Title: Re: Fraud MRS200
Post by: Jrichards20 on July 25, 2016, 10:16
Looking forward to following this!
Title: Re: Fraud MRS200
Post by: s12vea on July 25, 2016, 10:19
Should make some interesting reading, lots of pictures as well I hope  s;) ;) s;)
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on July 25, 2016, 11:33
I'll be watching this closely as I'm about to order the same for mine to do over the winter.

I am also going to turbocharge mine to get the full fire spitting group B experience

Shout if you need any Vinyl cutting as I have a 600mm cutter  s:) :) s:)
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on July 25, 2016, 21:59
(http://ih1.redbubble.net/image.5535681.3311/fc,550x550,black.jpg)

There you go  s:) :) s:)

My son wants to deck ours out with Fake sponsors ala Top Gear
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on July 25, 2016, 22:13
Man that's exactly what I want!!! That's awesome!

I'll certainly bare you in mind if I decide to go for full on decals. At the moment I just want white but... I do like a sticker!
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on July 25, 2016, 22:44
I'll see if I can find pics of son's RC Touring car..... it was a replica of the Top Gear Britcar

Will see about getting them made up as proper Releif badges
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: James and his MR2 on July 26, 2016, 18:23
Cant wait to see the progress of this  s:) :) s:)
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on August 2, 2016, 17:24
At last, moved into the new house last weekend. Collecting the car from my folks place on Thursday and will start taking bits off it on Friday as the wife won't be around barking orders at me. Hopefully I can get all the bits off in time for a very large delivery on Tuesday!!!! I can not wait to get started on this!!!!!
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on August 2, 2016, 17:57
Quote from: "Nostromo"At last, moved into the new house last weekend. Collecting the car from my folks place on Thursday and will start taking bits off it on Friday as the wife won't be around barking orders at me. Hopefully I can get all the bits off in time for a very large delivery on Tuesday!!!! I can not wait to get started on this!!!!!

When you get the parts, can you let me know the dimensions of the Recess for the ford logo in the front bumper?
I have a man who can make up the Fraud badges in 3D relief like the originals
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on August 3, 2016, 22:41
Will do chief!
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on August 4, 2016, 20:00
She's on the move!

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/20160804_135935_zpsx5ttdiqe_edit_1470337101371_zpsz1unp5ag.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/20160804_135935_zpsx5ttdiqe_edit_1470337101371_zpsz1unp5ag.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on August 5, 2016, 18:35
Most of the front end is off. Just one more wheel arch and wing then I can get started on the back! Had to stop cos my hands are in bits   s:shock: :shock: s:shock:   also the wife was on her way home and I hadn't finished the decorating   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/Mobile%20Uploads/20160805_142335_zps0mqwsdis.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160805_142335_zps0mqwsdis.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Newbie57 on August 5, 2016, 23:02
Used to do some work with Ford SVE. Supplied steering components on cosworth sierras and the RS 200. Some of the leftover cars were converted by  Tickford. One turned up at the local pub recently. Must be an interesting road car.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on August 8, 2016, 13:09
Just the soft top left to remove now. T minus one day to body kit delivery!!!!

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/Mobile%20Uploads/20160808_111401_zps7ukkebi2.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160808_111401_zps7ukkebi2.jpg.html)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/Mobile%20Uploads/20160808_111348_zpszj7i8bfv.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160808_111348_zpszj7i8bfv.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on August 8, 2016, 13:11
Quote from: "Newbie57"Used to do some work with Ford SVE. Supplied steering components on cosworth sierras and the RS 200. Some of the leftover cars were converted by  Tickford. One turned up at the local pub recently. Must be an interesting road car.

I can imagine it'd be quite a scary road car. More for the fact of worrying about anyone hitting it! I really need to see a real one so that I can try to get the details right. There's only so much you can get from a photo.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on August 9, 2016, 18:14
The kit turned up today and for now it's been plonked on top of the car. Not sure I'm going to have much of a chance to pley with it for a week or so as I'm back to work tomorrow and have house decorating duties. Here it is though.

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG-20160809-WA0010_zpsm1x0vcpu.jpeg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG-20160809-WA0010_zpsm1x0vcpu.jpeg.html)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG-20160809-WA0008_zpsmbyu3mqr.jpeg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG-20160809-WA0008_zpsmbyu3mqr.jpeg.html)

I've very quickly run out of room in and around the garage due to now having one chassis and two bodies.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on August 9, 2016, 20:29
I'm gonna have to arrange a trip down to you so I can take a look
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on August 9, 2016, 22:37
Yes mate you'd be welcome to have a look around it. Have you ordered yours yet?
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on August 9, 2016, 22:56
Quote from: "Nostromo"Yes mate you'd be welcome to have a look around it. Have you ordered yours yet?

Not yet..... I have decided to keep this one as an MR-S and buy another one in poorer condition.
I have a lead on one that I'm going to take a look at this weekend.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on August 13, 2016, 21:02
Unfortunately, in removing the soft top, I managed to miss a very small plastic clip and put a great big tear in it so thought I might as well make the most of the bits left over. I cut these off it:
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/Mobile%20Uploads/20160813_201256_zpsh9zojao9.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160813_201256_zpsh9zojao9.jpg.html)
These are the seat belt mounts. Hopefully the side covers will hide the cut off bits.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on August 16, 2016, 19:00
I have a roof upon my roof! Just need to spray it black then it can go be drilled, bolted and stuck on the car.

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/Mobile%20Uploads/20160816_183145_zps9is1w1kv.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160816_183145_zps9is1w1kv.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: lamcote on August 17, 2016, 14:53
I've just been to buy some bits and the seller has just completed one of these, he's not a member on here apparently. Have to say it looks absolutely stunning. It took him 15 months, he said he had to make a few improvements along the way in the way it fits. Looks like a really good project, most people think it's the real thing.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on August 17, 2016, 21:06
Is that one round Northampton way?
Theres a chap on another forum (TwoBrutal) who's building one
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on August 17, 2016, 21:23
Quote from: "Essex2Visuvesi"Is that one round Northampton way?
Theres a chap on another forum (TwoBrutal) who's building one

Lamcote, I don't suppose you'd like to share some contact details for him? I could do with talking to someone before I go cutting bids off of the kit.

Essex2Visuvesi, you're gonna be out of luck if you wanted to buy one of these kits. The company is selling the moulds on so I doubt very much if any more kits will be put together.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: lamcote on August 17, 2016, 21:44
I'll ask him, he didn't seem that keen on forums for some reason. It wasn't around Northampton.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Jrichards20 on August 18, 2016, 14:02
Apart from the LP kits, I wonder whether there are any other replica bodykits (excluding the likes of JDl etc that aren't a full change) for a similar price to this one.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on August 18, 2016, 14:53
Quote from: "Nostromo"
Quote from: "Essex2Visuvesi"Is that one round Northampton way?
Theres a chap on another forum (TwoBrutal) who's building one

Lamcote, I don't suppose you'd like to share some contact details for him? I could do with talking to someone before I go cutting bids off of the kit.

Essex2Visuvesi, you're gonna be out of luck if you wanted to buy one of these kits. The company is selling the moulds on so I doubt very much if any more kits will be put together.


I had heard this, but I would think that whoever buys them will be looking to continue selling them
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on August 31, 2016, 00:14
So things are moving really slowly on this due to decorating the house but I've ordered a few bits and pieces. Got my indicators and side repeaters through today. Rear lights and wiring is on order. This is our current state of affairs.

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/Mobile%20Uploads/20160829_140444_zpst9jvkuk1.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160829_140444_zpst9jvkuk1.jpg.html)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/Mobile%20Uploads/20160829_140456_zpskavn1ukh.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160829_140456_zpskavn1ukh.jpg.html)

It looks like a car which is great! Decided to cut some holes out as I had a spare 20 minutes.

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/Mobile%20Uploads/20160830_200457_zpsoglat259.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160830_200457_zpsoglat259.jpg.html)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/Mobile%20Uploads/20160830_201320_zps6jammyia.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160830_201320_zps6jammyia.jpg.html)

Knackered my hole cutter though (cheap crap).

One of my mates is coming round tomorrow to help remove the shell so that I can fit my hard top. Once the lid is on, I can set about cutting the roof section away from the main clam as I want the rear section to lift like a boot lid. Also, the doors need to come off so that I can fit the side skirts. They are the datum for the rest of the kit. I spent a couple of hours smoothing them down.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on August 31, 2016, 00:17
I'm not sure what to buy to cut up the shell. Am thinking a reciprocating saw rather than a jigsaw as I'll have better control. My brothers father in law is very kindly donating a compressor so I may end up going for air tools instead. Thoughts anyone?
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: 1979scotte on August 31, 2016, 07:58
I dont usually feel qualified to comment but in this case i will.
Recip saws arent the eaiest things in the world to control.
They can be a bit of an animal.
Jigsaw will give you much finner control.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on August 31, 2016, 08:47
I would suggest a hand locksaw, it will give you much more control and a lot less dust.  Downside obviously is its a lot slower
(http://static.axminster.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/5/1/510012_xl.jpg)
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: cabbydave on August 31, 2016, 09:40
Air saws and angle grinders rule
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on August 31, 2016, 13:49
The problem with a jigsaw is that most of the holes I'm cutting are already recessed so it's not gonna be like cutting a piece of wood. I was wondering about a hand saw like the one above but that won't be great for getting round corners. 1979Scotte, I was looking at one of these:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/361266694776
I thought it looks like something a bit more aimed at being easier to control than the big 240v jobbies.

At the end of the day, there's no instructions on how to do it so maybe I just need to try a few different things until I find the right tool.

Cabbydave, they also sound awesome  s:) :) s:)
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on August 31, 2016, 14:36
Quote from: "Nostromo"The problem with a jigsaw is that most of the holes I'm cutting are already recessed so it's not gonna be like cutting a piece of wood. I was wondering about a hand saw like the one above but that won't be great for getting round corners. 1979Scotte, I was looking at one of these:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/361266694776
I thought it looks like something a bit more aimed at being easier to control than the big 240v jobbies.

At the end of the day, there's no instructions on how to do it so maybe I just need to try a few different things until I find the right tool.

Cabbydave, they also sound awesome  s:) :) s:)

If you have a compressor then I'd suggest on like this:-
 m http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/401062338599 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/401062338599) m

I have one it can be a bit of a handful to cut neatly

Also it might be worth looking up 2 series from the Mark Evans is born series. The one where he builds the Cobra replica and also a Westfield
There are some good tips on manipulating fibreglass.
 m https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is_Born_series (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is_Born_series) m
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: 1979scotte on August 31, 2016, 16:32
Quote from: "Nostromo"The problem with a jigsaw is that most of the holes I'm cutting are already recessed so it's not gonna be like cutting a piece of wood. I was wondering about a hand saw like the one above but that won't be great for getting round corners. 1979Scotte, I was looking at one of these:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/361266694776
I thought it looks like something a bit more aimed at being easier to control than the big 240v jobbies.

At the end of the day, there's no instructions on how to do it so maybe I just need to try a few different things until I find the right tool.

Cabbydave, they also sound awesome  s:) :) s:)

Never used that dewalt.
Once used a hitachi 10v which was so weak we ended up using a hacksaw.
I personally reccomend any makita 18v lxt range.
You may have to suck it and see.
Certainly the pictured dewalt is smaller than what i had in my mind.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on September 1, 2016, 00:21
The hard top is on! The kit appears to be quite a good fit. It's certainly gonna need some fettling but it's better than expected.

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/Mobile%20Uploads/20160831_181915_zpsrx4ysz4e.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160831_181915_zpsrx4ysz4e.jpg.html)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/Mobile%20Uploads/20160831_181855_zpsg0d7jwkj.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160831_181855_zpsg0d7jwkj.jpg.html)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/Mobile%20Uploads/20160831_181809_zpsc8hwlgsk.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160831_181809_zpsc8hwlgsk.jpg.html)


That is some back end!!
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: tomh on September 1, 2016, 03:46
This is brilliant  s:-D :-D s:-D
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on September 3, 2016, 16:31
Essex2Visuvesi, your suggestion could well be the winner. Although I feel that I should buy myself a recip saw anyway just because I think my garage needs one   s:D :D s:D  

Haven't got a fitting kit for the hard top so made up some brackets for the clamps on the sides. All they need to do is hold it all down tight... might work:
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/Mobile%20Uploads/20160903_092007_zpsxcuq0l84.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160903_092007_zpsxcuq0l84.jpg.html)

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(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/Mobile%20Uploads/20160903_103212_zpssmqdi4th.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160903_103212_zpssmqdi4th.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on September 3, 2016, 16:49
Quote from: "Nostromo"Essex2Visuvesi, your suggestion could well be the winner. Although I feel that I should buy myself a recip saw anyway just because I think my garage needs one   s:D :D s:D  


You can never have too many power tools!
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b167/slugbug55/toolman.gif) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/slugbug55/media/toolman.gif.html)
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on September 6, 2016, 20:05
Got a little upset today thinking that nothing was gonna fit as well as it should so had to have a quiet word with myself. After pulling myself together I decided the best course of action would be to get the center of everything and line it all up as best as I could The original idea was that the side skirts were the datum and you lined everything up via them. They're supposed to be ready prefabd to fit. To me, something just didn't look right. It turns out I was panicking about nothing. After centering the bonnet and bumper, I fitted the side skirt and clamped it into place.

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/Mobile%20Uploads/20160906_163433_zpsnqm3jvqq.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160906_163433_zpsnqm3jvqq.jpg.html)

I know it's a little dark but you get the idea. The rear clam will need trimming before it sits right. It'll also need the roof section separating from the rear (not looking forward to that). Anyway, I congratulated myself by cutting out my first hole.

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/Mobile%20Uploads/20160906_162921_zpsel15pbhe.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160906_162921_zpsel15pbhe.jpg.html)

Again, sorry it's dark. It still needs filing and smoothing down. Used a padsaw for this one which took a while and wasn't easy on corners. Will try the jigsaw next. I'll keep trying different tools until I find one that works well.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: 1979scotte on September 6, 2016, 21:37
Dont get down get it done!

Nice fine blade for the jigsaw on a slow speed would be what i would try.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on September 6, 2016, 22:14
That's the problem with working nights but not having much to do. Too much time to worry aboyt stuff!

  s:) :) s:)  That's the plan. I've got a couple of blades to try and now that I've cut out that air vent, I've got something (albeit only a tiny piece) to test them on. To be honest, now that I've cut a hole and realised it'll all fit together, I just wanna crack on!
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on September 8, 2016, 12:55
Set about cutting some more holes:

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/Mobile%20Uploads/20160908_114716_zps893e7h1b.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160908_114716_zps893e7h1b.jpg.html)

And a headlight:

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/Mobile%20Uploads/20160908_123148_zpsfml2busa.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160908_123148_zpsfml2busa.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on September 27, 2016, 10:23
Having only been back from my holiday for a few days and getting over a bit of food poisoning (thanks a lot hotel restaurant!) I can finally get on and play with the car again. Am just focusing on cutting holes at the moment so the headlights are cut and I did one of the ears. My rear lights are finally being delivered today so I can see about cutting holes for them too. The big day for separating the roof section will be coming on Monday or Tuesday.  Not looking forward to it but I'll at least have one of my mates next to me for a bit of moral support or just to laugh at me.

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/Mobile%20Uploads/20160926_175314_zpspf6twdoi.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160926_175314_zpspf6twdoi.jpg.html)

The best way I've found to cut the holes is using a cone drill to make loads of nice big hole and cut as close to the edge as I dare, then cut one hole to the next with a pad saw and file the lumps down. Bit long winded but I just don't feel that I've got enough control with a jigsaw.

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/Mobile%20Uploads/20160926_175822_zpsxuyq28kf.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160926_175822_zpsxuyq28kf.jpg.html)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/Mobile%20Uploads/20160926_180340_zpscozh1tyr.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160926_180340_zpscozh1tyr.jpg.html)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/Mobile%20Uploads/20160926_181027_zpsdw7wnohq.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160926_181027_zpsdw7wnohq.jpg.html)

Tadaa!

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Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: 1979scotte on September 27, 2016, 16:18
Like the cone bit idea would a multi tool be any good do you think?

 m http://www.wickes.co.uk/Wickes-Oscillat ... pkw||pmt|| (http://www.wickes.co.uk/Wickes-Oscillating-Multi-Tool-250W-240V/p/235510?CAWELAID=120135120000008293&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=37524968332&CATCI=aud-142955627092:pla-75918350782&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping%20-%20Power%20&%20Hand%20Tools&tmcampid=&tmad=c&tmplaceref=EPnnKmrh&utm_content=sEPnnKmrh%7Cpcid%7C102693175732%7Cpkw%7C%7Cpmt%7C%7C) m
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on September 27, 2016, 16:40
Yes! My dad suggested this to me and I completely forgot about it! Nice one Scotte!
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: StuC on September 27, 2016, 17:30
Not gonna lie, I thought you were cutting out a mirror section to start with!  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on September 27, 2016, 21:04
Haha! Nope, no major fails just yet.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: 1979scotte on September 28, 2016, 07:05
Quote from: "StuC"Not gonna lie, I thought you were cutting out a mirror section to start with!  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

He isnt?!!!
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on October 9, 2016, 03:34
New things I've done:

Separated the roof from the rear clam. Was an absolute sod but really glad I've finally managed to get it done.

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/20161004_114332_zpsbmm1kzpb.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/20161004_114332_zpsbmm1kzpb.jpg.html)

Ordered my rear lights. When I got my box in the post, I opened it to find two drivers side rear lights. Thanks nob end on ebay. It's actually come as a bit of a blessing to have a spare as I've had to cut bits off to get them to fit. Still waiting for a passenger side one to turn up buy here's how the rear end is looking at the minite:

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/20161008_154409_zpsx1trs2nv.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/20161008_154409_zpsx1trs2nv.jpg.html)

I apologise for the lack of exciting pictures. It should start to get a bit better as I'm starting to have to fabricate bits and bobs for the hinges so that the rear clam will lift.

On a side note, the car has sat idle for about 2 months and not been started. Connected the battery and still had plenty of juice. Started first time and gurgled away quite happily for 15 mins  s:) :) s:)
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: wozzy on October 9, 2016, 13:41
that's coming along nicely,we need plenty of detailed pics.I am thinking about doing one of these myself. Have you got more detailed info on seperating the clam?, as it looks pretty scary and you only get one shot at it.
Do you get a build manual with the kit?
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: MR TWO on October 9, 2016, 15:16
My only thoughts are its coming together and keep posting updates and pictures! Its going to be great.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on October 9, 2016, 21:27
Thanks Mr Two   s:) :) s:)  

Wozzy, nope, no instructions. I'm just going by pictures and things I've been told by the guy who made the kit and another guy who has built one. If you're alright at bodging things together then this is probably the kit for you. It's a lot of guess work and using my imagination. So far, the only power tool I've used is my brill with a cone cutter and a dremel which came in handy with cutting the roof away which started off being quite scary but I had a plan so just jumped in. Everything else has been done with a cone drill and a pad saw. Saying you only get one try isn't technically true. I've not had any mishaps yet but if I do, I'll buy myself a fiberglass kit and rebuild it then have another go or if I've put a cut or hole in the wrong place, filler will be my friend. I can do some close ups of the cuts I've made for you if you like. It's enjoyable seeing it take shape, especially the rear end. I think it looks awesome and can't wait to get the other light on!
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: wozzy on October 10, 2016, 10:53
Quote from: "Nostromo"Thanks Mr Two   s:) :) s:)  

Wozzy, nope, no instructions. I'm just going by pictures and things I've been told by the guy who made the kit and another guy who has built one. If you're alright at bodging things together then this is probably the kit for you. It's a lot of guess work and using my imagination. So far, the only power tool I've used is my brill with a cone cutter and a dremel which came in handy with cutting the roof away which started off being quite scary but I had a plan so just jumped in. Everything else has been done with a cone drill and a pad saw. Saying you only get one try isn't technically true. I've not had any mishaps yet but if I do, I'll buy myself a fiberglass kit and rebuild it then have another go or if I've put a cut or hole in the wrong place, filler will be my friend. I can do some close ups of the cuts I've made for you if you like. It's enjoyable seeing it take shape, especially the rear end. I think it looks awesome and can't wait to get the other light on!
if i end up with a kit, would it be possible to have a chat with you if i need any info.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on October 10, 2016, 11:21
Yes mate, no problems. You may find it hard to get hold of one of these kits now though. They've stopped producing them as the owner wanted to do a new one so he was selling off the moulds. Not sure if that's still his plan or not though. Best give them a call to see.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: swiftyds on October 11, 2016, 13:12
I was looking into buying a MRS 200 kit and ended up talking to the guy who owns the moulds (Tribute Automotive do the fabrication and handle the sales) with a view to buying them. I understand there is another potential buyer in the mix but just trying to get a sense for how many potential buyers there are out there.

One of the issues is that the kit was structured to sell at £2,500 and there isn't really any margin in it. I've not yet got any quotes from other fabricators but there is a chance the kit price would end up increasing just because Tribute were able to fabricate it so cheaply.

It looks a fantastic project that I want to build myself, but would be happy to buy the moulds along the way if that's the only way of getting a set of panels if I can at least break even with a couple of other panel sales.

Let me know if there's any interest with folks here.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on October 11, 2016, 14:01
You might want to talk to Nigel Smith on here.
He might be in a position to help laying up a run of these
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: wozzy on October 11, 2016, 18:38
Are there any pics anywhere of the car from all angles with the kit on? i would like to see how it looks side on and with the bonnet and boot open
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on October 11, 2016, 22:36
Have a look here:
 m http://mrs200tribute.wixsite.com/details/media (http://mrs200tribute.wixsite.com/details/media) m

And also search m r s-200 (written like that) on Facebook.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: swiftyds on October 12, 2016, 09:01
Nick, your build and pictures here show what a great result you can achieve with the kit.

Have you decided what door mirrors you are going with yet - I've seen one built  with Mondeo mirrors which look a bit angular. Andy also used Celica mirrors I believe on his second build?
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: wozzy on October 12, 2016, 10:10
Thanks
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: nads1978 on October 12, 2016, 11:50
Some nice work there, cant wait to get mine back on the road too.
Here are some motivational images taken last year!!!


(http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o428/nads1978/MRS/asdfgh.jpg) (http://s342.photobucket.com/user/nads1978/media/MRS/asdfgh.jpg.html)

(http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o428/nads1978/MRS/asdf.jpg) (http://s342.photobucket.com/user/nads1978/media/MRS/asdf.jpg.html)

(http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o428/nads1978/MRS/asdfghj.jpg) (http://s342.photobucket.com/user/nads1978/media/MRS/asdfghj.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: wozzy on October 12, 2016, 15:06
Very nice
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on October 12, 2016, 17:31
Nads, stick up the little video of your rear clam release! It's awesome. I pm'd you on twobrutal (scruff). Any chance you could have a go at those photos for me?

Swifty, not sure about wing mirrors. I was wondering drink if a set of carbon race type mirrors would look any good.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: nads1978 on October 12, 2016, 18:34
Quote from: "Nostromo"I pm'd you on twobrutal (scruff). Any chance you could have a go at those photos for me?
I replied this morning, didn't you get it? If not, I'll send you it on here, let me know...

Quote from: "Nostromo"Nads, stick up the little video of your rear clam release! It's awesome.
This one?  s:D :D s:D

 m https://youtu.be/Dr2tE11eW_Q (https://youtu.be/Dr2tE11eW_Q) m

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Dr2tE11eW_Q" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on October 12, 2016, 20:13
Yeeeeah! Awesome  s:) :) s:)

I haven't looked actually. It doesn't email me to let me know. I'll have a look now!
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on October 13, 2016, 07:35
Nads, photos received. Thank you very much, really helpful.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: wozzy on October 13, 2016, 20:46
Quote from: "nads1978"
Quote from: "Nostromo"I pm'd you on twobrutal (scruff). Any chance you could have a go at those photos for me?
I replied this morning, didn't you get it? If not, I'll send you it on here, let me know...

Quote from: "Nostromo"Nads, stick up the little video of your rear clam release! It's awesome.
This one?  s:D :D s:D

 m https://youtu.be/Dr2tE11eW_Q (https://youtu.be/Dr2tE11eW_Q) m

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Dr2tE11eW_Q" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


Thats great,
how did you acheive that?
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on October 14, 2016, 07:49
Wozzy, Nads has a thread on Two Brutal which might be worth a look. He's done a LOT of work to the rear of his car. Basically rebuilt it all following a little accident involving the rear window and a bit too much downward force. His is a very close replica to an RS200, not just in the outside.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: wozzy on October 14, 2016, 08:20
Quote from: "Nostromo"Wozzy, Nads has a thread on Two Brutal which might be worth a look. He's done a LOT of work to the rear of his car. Basically rebuilt it all following a little accident involving the rear window and a bit too much downward force. His is a very close replica to an RS200, not just in the outside.

Have you got a link for the thread please, i have also been in touch with tribute and hopefullythey are doing me a kit before the moulds are sold, if not i will have to find out the new owner of the moulds
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: nads1978 on October 14, 2016, 08:38
Quote from: "wozzy"Have you got a link for the thread please

 m http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/showth ... -on-giving (http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?23288-1MZ-Mk3-The-gift-that-just-KEEPS-on-giving) m


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Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: wozzy on October 14, 2016, 11:44
Quote from: "nads1978"
Quote from: "wozzy"Have you got a link for the thread please

 m http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/showth ... -on-giving (http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?23288-1MZ-Mk3-The-gift-that-just-KEEPS-on-giving) m


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I like that a lot,   s:D :D s:D
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: swiftyds on October 20, 2016, 07:54
I ended up managing to convince Chris at Tribute to produce me a final set of panels from the moulds (I think I'm either 3 of 3 or 3 of 4 of what has turned out to be the "last" set before Andy sells !) so going the new build route, and not going after the moulds themselves.

Sourced an 06 car complete with hard top which has full Toyota SH, is a bit shabby body wise (paint mainly) but that's irrelevant given the panels are coming off and who knows there may be some interest in lights, fog lights and bumpers to sell second hand.

Will start a build thread when the kit arrives and things get going - just assembling various Ford parts now for lights etc.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: 1979scotte on October 20, 2016, 10:33
Good luck to you guys but i have to be honest why do you have to use late model cars.
Arent there enough PFL out there for cheap?
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on October 20, 2016, 11:05
For me it was because I knew I could make a bit of money back on selling the more sought after parts. Made it easier to justify it to the wife. But also you'd like to think a newer, lower mileage model will last longer and you want the best base car you can get to start.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: swiftyds on October 20, 2016, 22:07
Ditto ... my aim is to build a RS200 replica (ok, more of an "homage") that isn't just eye candy but actually drives decently and the aim is to build something, take my time with it, but keep it at the end.

Guess we've all got to blame Mr Toyota for building such a great handling car that pretty much all of the panels bolt of easily
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: wozzy on October 23, 2016, 19:47
Quote from: "nads1978"Some nice work there, cant wait to get mine back on the road too.
Here are some motivational images taken last year!!!


(http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o428/nads1978/MRS/asdfgh.jpg) (http://s342.photobucket.com/user/nads1978/media/MRS/asdfgh.jpg.html)

(http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o428/nads1978/MRS/asdf.jpg) (http://s342.photobucket.com/user/nads1978/media/MRS/asdf.jpg.html)

(http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o428/nads1978/MRS/asdfghj.jpg) (http://s342.photobucket.com/user/nads1978/media/MRS/asdfghj.jpg.html)
that looks the dogs nuts haha
what wheels are those?
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on October 23, 2016, 21:30
Awooga365

Someone on this forum will understand that.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: swiftyds on November 1, 2016, 17:04
Red Dwarf fan?
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on November 2, 2016, 06:38
Yes, but thats not what its about   s:) :) s:)  

A small update on the car. I've not really done a great deal recently as I've been spending a lot of time decorating the house so that's also where most of my money is going at the minute too   s:roll: :roll: s:roll:  My wife doesn't seem to understand   s:| :| s:|   One thing this project has highlighted to me is how many things I'm missing in my garage that before now I've not really needed. Big vice, welder, compressor, air tools, clamps, trays for nuts and bolts etc. I've also just realised that to make it a proper workshop, i'll be needing a nudey calendar.

So what have I done? I've removed the rear end, ordered some big strips of mild steel, rose joints, packs of nuts, bolts and washers so that I can start on the hinges at the rear end. I've also started drilling some holes in the side skirts so that I can fit them in roughly the right place to get the rear end in place. Everything will have a small amount of adjustment as I fully expect to get it wrong. I'm borrowing a welder as I'm possibly going to have to re-weld the rear frame as its not centered. I'm also going to be turning the exhaust hanger for the cat 90 degrees to the left as the bodykit sits on it otherwise. I've got a new (second hand) cat coming to me on Saturday which will be rubbed down, sprayed black and also have its hanger turned 90 degrees. Am hoping I can just bend that one! The cat is purely for MOT purposes. I've been eyeing up the mandrelled sections of exhaust available on ebay with the intent of building my own - clamps and putty rather than welded. Oh, I've also cut out the vents on the side and blew up my dremel (actual sparks and fire) in the process. The vents look awesome though!   s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce:
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: swiftyds on November 2, 2016, 08:27
I know what you mean - I cleared the garage out ready for the MR2 donor and the kit (which is due to arrive in a couple of weeks) and by the time I got the MR2 in I discovered just how little room is there around the car for the build! OK panels are still on which will give me more space when they come off, but I think I'll be need to free up space on the other side of the garage for working on panels.

On hinges I've been speaking to Bill who owns the Evo200 kit - he makes a set of bespoke front and rear clam hinges which are adjustable and seems reasonably priced, so I'm about to place an order with him. I've also been looking at cutting the intercooler pod in half as well as the clam to make fitting the hinges easier to the rear clam itself. Looks to have been done this way on the original and with a lip around the inner edge of the top looks like it would make a decent panel join.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on November 2, 2016, 13:30
Can I ask where the hinges mount to? I was going to go with sticking a hinged plate to the roof (inside obvs) of the pod and rose joints mounted on the hardtop. As the hardtop is curved, rose joints seem a safe way of doing it. If there's a purpose built hinge already made then I'm all ears!
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: swiftyds on November 2, 2016, 14:17
I'm having to put a support bar in that will be either be bolted or bonded to the hardtop for the hinges to mount to
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: nads1978 on November 8, 2016, 00:51
Quote from: "swiftyds"I'm having to put a support bar in that will be either be bolted or bonded to the hardtop for the hinges to mount to

The rear clam is quite heavy, I also added bracing to mine for rigidity. Originally I made a bracket to mount to the OE hardtop, that resulted in the rear window shattering. It shattered when I was tightening the bracket up, must have pulled it out of shape, pretty much the same forces which will act upon it when opening the clam. Be warned!



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Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: swiftyds on November 8, 2016, 08:49
Yes, I'm also worried about this and saw what had happened with yours on your other posts.

I'm now reconsidering the hard top mounted bar (I've yet to order the hinges from Bill who owns the Evo200 kit) and have been looking at hinging the other way from the back/bumper bar. It seems the first couple of Ford original cars (up to chassis #3) hinged this way until an accident with one of them in transit and the rear clam opened and was ripped off.

I had a GTM Libra kit in the past which hinged this way and was pretty heavy itself so may be a better alternative.

Either that or just bond the clam in and accept I need to remove the rear screen to get engine access! To be honest, the GTM Libra rear clam was secured by 5 - 6 bolts that looked fine and probably wasn't that much quicker than removing the bolts for the rear screen would be .

Decisions decisions ......
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on November 9, 2016, 03:16
Nads, I did wonder how you managed that! I assumed you'd just lent on it or something. What you've written is now making me think along the same lines as swiftyds now. I really like the idea of the rear end lifting up, it looks cool more than anything but as he's written, would it be a terrible hardship to just remove a few bolts to get access? I'm also now thinking of bonding the supports instead. I want to try to save as much space under the inake pod as possible so thinking of making up a frame that will spread the load. Not sure if its a bit dodgy sticking it on rather than bolting? Could always put a couple of small bolts, nuts and washers at each end as well as glue.

Swiftyds, what sticky stuff would you suggest?
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: swiftyds on November 9, 2016, 07:58
I think there's a couple of options here that I'm still contemplating - when the kit arrives (hopefully next couple of weeks) I'll be able to see how much strengthening the rear clam needs which will have a bearing on which route I end up going:

1 - Bond/permanently fix the rear clam leaving the only access to engine, rear lights, suspension being either under the car or through the rear screen which would be bolted in and removable (Nads I understand your rear screen is bolted in as are the other MRS200 kits built today). I suspect this isn't a great route in terms of the durability of the rear screen as it won't stand up to constant removal, and will be a pain for checking the oil etc, but the kit was originally designed that way with the fuel filler flap being retained.

In terms of bonding/bolting then I would use Sikaflex to bond it down to the hardtop edge and then tekbolts into the sill area and rear bumper area.

2 - Bolt/fix the rear clam to the car but not hinge it - if you look at some of the Evo/Rally versions of the original car you will see bonnet / retaining pins on a number of them on the rear bumper area (below the number plate but above the grill areas. There's also a couple where the bonnet pins are on the top of spoiler on the clam. With the frame that comes with the kit I believe there is scope here to have a clam which can lift off for maintenance/access that is bolted/pinned with a set of four - six bonnet pins/bolts - two - three across the bumper area and the same under the intercooler pod. You would need to fabricate a set of stricker plates for the bonnet pins to lock into on the hard top again or a frame but the load would be less than with the hinging it from the top, also the intercooler will need cutting from the roof so this is removable to access the bonnet pins (otherwise these will look a mess if they are visible).

3 - Hinge from the roof and opening upwards .... Nads has shown how to do this properly with a frame and achieve a result that's pretty damn close to the original, but I think this goes beyond my welding skills to be honest.

4 - Hinge from the rear bumper and opening backwards ... this would need a frame fabricating at the back of the clam to install the hinges on but there won't be such a load on the hardtop this way. I need to see the clam to check where it would lock into

In options 2 - 4 I believe the rear clam will need strengthening itself - I was going to go the route of fibreglassing support struts on the underside of the clam itself and then paint black or with the special paint you can get which protects underside of GRP panels from stone chips and creating crazing. Needs to be something flexible if going this route, and in the past I've used various sizes of rubber hozes to do this - sounds crazy but you can get quite some strength going this route without too much weight. I spoke to Andy when I was considering buying the moulds and the original plan was the clams would be provide would strengthening along these lines as well as the more expensive screen when the KIT was originally priced at > £3k.

Hope this makes sense ... as I said I'll get more of an idea of the route I'm taking once the kit arrives. I may go with option 2 first given option 1 is a lot of work once the car is painted to reverse. Be interested to hear from Nads how his clam was originally attached before he went the route of hinging it given it was the original prototype car and whether this was option 1 or actually option 2 or a combo of both.

Going back to the point I made about how the GTM Libra clam worked, here's a link to a picture of the fastenings for that - stainless hex bolts that actually looked pretty good but achieved the same principle as bonnet pins albeit you got a pretty tight fit (second picture from bottom where you can see the captive threads and then on the clam you see the recess for the bolt/washer ...  m http://www.drawmer.net/libra/stringing.htm (http://www.drawmer.net/libra/stringing.htm) m )
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on November 10, 2016, 01:10
I'm taking this as an omen. was just checking out the scrap metal bin at work and found these right on top. Lovely bits of aircraft spec alloy just waiting to be stuck to the top of the inside of the pod. Nice big footprint that I can make a little wider with some stainless. I'm going for hinged roof, decision made. Think i'll stick them on.

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/20161110_010150_zpsjcas0cky.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/20161110_010150_zpsjcas0cky.jpg.html)

Might be useful for fitting the piston for lifting the clam too!
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: swiftyds on November 10, 2016, 08:53
Wow they look pretty industrial and what a fantastic place you must work at to have this floating around in the scrap metal bin!

Looks like the dimensions should work ideal for mounting on the clam itself .... let me know if you have any spare once you've done yours as I'd be more than happy to buy a pair of you even if I end up hinging from the rear, as these would ideal for that too.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on November 12, 2016, 10:16
Aircraft parts! Very light and well made... makes me wonder why they were in the bin. They'll be from a  scock cock scock pit of a 320, 737 or maybe even a Herc or an Atlas. Will check the part number for fun. Interesting bits and pieces turn up every now and then. They came out of a bin so would be pretty unfair to charge for them! I'm sure I could pass a set your way  s:) :) s:)

Got the car out and into the daylight for the first time since I bought it yesterday. Daylight really shows up how much work there is to do. Have temporarily bolted the side skirt on . There's a tapped hole near the door light switch which is perfect. Have oversized the hole as no doubt I'll need to adjust the skirts. It's very difficult to match them up. I think all body parts will need to be temporarily attached then adjusted to fit right at the end.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: swiftyds on November 15, 2016, 08:03
That would be great if you're OK to pass on - will PM you my details, and of course happy to pay postage and a donation to a suitable charity of your choice.

I've built a couple of kit cars over the years and restored a couple of old classics, including a 1966 TVR Grantura. I tend to enjoy the body work more than mechanicals (hence the MRS200 choice), but there are always times in the build where you wonder why the heck you bothered and you just want to throw the towel in. That's usually a good time to give it a rest for a couple of days/weeks, wheel it back into the garage then take a look at pictures of the finished article to renew your enthusiasm.

As for lining the body work up, it will be a bit of trial an error and trying to find some parts (sills ideally) that you can use as reference points. Don't know if it makes it harder splitting the rear clam - I was going to look at trying to line sills/roof/clam up first, secure the sills and possibly the roof part and then cut it/split it. I also think copious amounts of gaffer tape can help line things up.

Hang in there ... it will be worth it in the end!
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on November 16, 2016, 20:20
The problem with lining all that lot up first is then you've still got the doors which will also hopefully line up with everything else. My plan is to make everything so that it has some level of adjustment until I'm ready to stick / bolt it down for good.

Just picked up a set 17 inch of old school Konigs for £60!!   s:) :) s:)  they'll do... for now  s;) ;) s;)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/20161116_184720_zpsho5p9ukh.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/20161116_184720_zpsho5p9ukh.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on November 16, 2016, 21:07
(http://www.imagewheels.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/image-wheels-rs200-17.jpg)
 m http://www.imagewheels.co.uk/rs200-alloy-wheel/ (http://www.imagewheels.co.uk/rs200-alloy-wheel/) m

I was going to go for these until I found out the price   s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on November 16, 2016, 21:23
Yeah I saw them too, ridiculous price! How about a set of knackered rs200 revolutions for £900?
Look at this on eBay  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252606794461
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on November 16, 2016, 22:53
Dent

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/20161116_223548_zpsaxplr74k.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/20161116_223548_zpsaxplr74k.jpg.html)

Hydraulic press

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/20161116_223635_zpszrwzr3jj.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/20161116_223635_zpszrwzr3jj.jpg.html)

No dent  s:) :) s:)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/20161116_223825_zpsie3f7el6.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/20161116_223825_zpsie3f7el6.jpg.html)

Best get it checked before I drive on it...
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on November 16, 2016, 23:20
Quote from: "Nostromo"Dent

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/20161116_223548_zpsaxplr74k.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/20161116_223548_zpsaxplr74k.jpg.html)

Hydraulic press

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/20161116_223635_zpszrwzr3jj.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/20161116_223635_zpszrwzr3jj.jpg.html)

No dent  s:) :) s:)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/20161116_223825_zpsie3f7el6.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/20161116_223825_zpsie3f7el6.jpg.html)

Best get it checked before I drive on it...

We must deal with it!
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Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: swiftyds on November 17, 2016, 07:58
I also got a quote for the ImageWheels RS200 replicas ... wow, I expected them to be expensive but not that much!

Great bargain there with the Konigs - I'm struggling to find something that is a fair price but in keeping with the 80s. If I can justify new I'd probably go for Team Dynamics Pro 1.2s in white at 17" but that eats a large part of the build budget so I suspect I'll wait for a bit a keep checking eBay!
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on November 18, 2016, 02:39
As nice as the replicas are, this was always going to be a budget build for me. Maybe i'll be able to afford a set when I retire... can I wait 30 years?

Remember to factor in that you'll probably be needing a set (or two) of spacers to get the wheels lining up nicely in the wheel arch. There doesn't seem to be many wheels out there with an offset of less than 25 (or is it more than?) but you'll need an offset of 0 to not need spacers. The konigs, if I stick with them will need 40mm hubcentrics. They're gonna look beautiful in a coppery bronzy colour and I think ought to suit the car! They're fairly well beaten up, the worst being that dent which isn't there anymore but they'll need a lot of work to get them looking nice. A friend of a friend does hydro dipping so I may see what he can do rather than spraying them myself.
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/IMG-20161116-WA0004_zpsijrfkbet.jpeg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/IMG-20161116-WA0004_zpsijrfkbet.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: wozzy on November 18, 2016, 20:43
Are you guys dooing build threads?
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on November 18, 2016, 20:48
This is kind of it. There's no definitive way of building it so I expect everyone's will be different.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: wozzy on November 19, 2016, 09:42
Have i to start adding my build to this thread when i get round to the build?
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on November 19, 2016, 10:37
Quote from: "wozzy"Have i to start adding my build to this thread when i get round to the build?

or start your own

I did look at this style of wheels for mine:-
(https://wheeltemple.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/p3086155edit1.jpg)
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: wozzy on November 19, 2016, 11:30
Quote from: "Essex2Visuvesi"
Quote from: "wozzy"Have i to start adding my build to this thread when i get round to the build?

or start your own

I did look at this style of wheels for mine:-
(https://wheeltemple.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/p3086155edit1.jpg)
They are what i'be been thinking of

i now have a 2005 6speed roadster as the base, im now looking at turbo options   s:D :D s:D
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on November 20, 2016, 21:54
Probably better off starting your own thread Wozzy. Just so it doesn't get confusing with people adding pictures and answering questions n that. Visuvesi, you have expensive tastes don't you pal! They will look spot on though.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on January 18, 2017, 09:49
I've been a bit quiet recently. Mostly focusing on the house, very occasionally on the car.

Spent a little bit of time trimming the roof section. The top right and left corners where it meets the windscreen weren't the right angle so have cut them away and will need to fiberglass the correct shape once it starts to warm up!

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/20161213_150209_zpsv2fzdz5e.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/20161213_150209_zpsv2fzdz5e.jpg.html)


Had the tyres removed from the old wheels and set about respraying two of them for the rear end. I've ordered some 40mm spacers which will hopefully be with me this week. These will bring the offset to 0 with the new body on the car. Once the spacers and wheels are on, I can set about getting the rear end properly lined up!

Primed
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/20161228_164454_zpshxwoqvil.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/20161228_164454_zpshxwoqvil.jpg.html)

Sprayed
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/20170112_002126_zpsuckcgwol.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/20170112_002126_zpsuckcgwol.jpg.html)

Finished
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/20170114_112401_zpsarwg0jwx.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/20170114_112401_zpsarwg0jwx.jpg.html)


Brought my bumper to work and cut some holes for the indicators. Now, I can indicate  s:) :) s:)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/IMG-20161218-WA0040_zpsrdf1dgho.jpeg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/IMG-20161218-WA0040_zpsrdf1dgho.jpeg.html)

I may have also set the building fire alarm off in doing so. It apparently works on dust as well as fire :bolt:


Using a couple more bits I found in my recycle bin at work (box section) these will be my brackets for the clam. They will be reinforced with some 3mm stainless plate to give the footprints a larger surface area then bolted and glued through the hardtop.

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/20161227_211153_zpsdikndomy.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/20161227_211153_zpsdikndomy.jpg.html)

This is my hinge which will go inside the clam. The bits of box section (not in the picture) will be bolted through another piece of plate, through the hardtop then through another bit of plate underneath in a cross shape for a bit of extra rigidity.

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/cossienick1/20170103_234548_zpskllvoq9r.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/cossienick1/media/20170103_234548_zpskllvoq9r.jpg.html)

That's where I am now and i'll probably set about doing the other couple of wheels over the next couple of days.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: MR TWO on January 18, 2017, 15:29
Keep it up amigo...
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: James and his MR2 on May 2, 2017, 18:04
Hows the project, still going strong?
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: StuC on May 3, 2017, 09:58
Quote from: "James and his MR2"Hows the project, still going strong?

+1

Four months spent on the house is quite enough, without an update on this interesting build!  s;-) ;-) s;-)    s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce:
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on May 12, 2017, 20:41
Didn't notice that anyone had written on here, sorry. Not that much has gone on recently. Still doing a lot of work to the house and having a big push for the next month at least before the new carpet is put down. If I never see another pot of paint, I'd be a happy man!

I now have four matching wheels but am waiting for my front spacers to be returned - found hat one had been cut wrong and had a 2mm difference between sides. Originally thought it was a massive buckle on the wheel!! Apart from hat, have done a little more painting around the doors and frunk. I so badly want to get out and work on it but just don't have the time at the moment  s:( :( s:(
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on September 20, 2017, 20:15
Photobucket not working, will try to repost the pics and uodate
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: The Other Stu on September 20, 2017, 22:00
Imgur is a good place  s;) ;) s;)
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Treboeth on September 21, 2017, 00:01
Just add them using the img button.

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Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on October 14, 2017, 10:24
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We're getting somewhere. Bought my rear window, that was expensive! Sprayed a couple of bits and fitted a nice little air filter. The car now has an odd hoooooooooooo noise on tickover.

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Doing some work on the shutlines. Door and sideskirt match. Since then, the rear clam is also taking good shape. Just to note, the clam and rear edge of the skirt are on the wonk in this picture. The wheels aren't actually that far in.

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It's coming together. Had a bit of a revelation that if I don't just grow some balls and start cutting bits off and making them fit, it'll never get done.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on October 14, 2017, 10:27
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Rear lights and indicators all round are now working.

Had a bit of a hit at home when someone tried to break into my garage. It's now been mega reinforced with door bolts, padlocks and a medieval door brace. Bastards.
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: wozzy on November 21, 2017, 22:02
Looking good, keep up the good work
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: Nostromo on November 4, 2018, 08:09
So I've not been on for some time but just thought I'd show you all what I've been up to. This is a bit of a brief overview as its been a couple of years in the making now.

Window fitting and racey mirrors

(https://i.imgur.com/YE21ilLh.jpg)

Headlights were a ball-ache

(https://i.imgur.com/mUfwcPNh.jpg)

Modified the roof

(https://i.imgur.com/kbcpXazh.jpg)

Sprayed and fitted

(https://i.imgur.com/uDvmoCJh.jpg)

Not bad for a rattle can job

(https://i.imgur.com/oUxEgIUh.jpg)

Spraying up the rear end

(https://i.imgur.com/CNzuw6Dh.jpg)

Fitted and lifted

(https://i.imgur.com/l7CaDKCh.jpg)

Nice new exhaust

(https://i.imgur.com/qQ3kQb1h.jpg)

Almost finished, just a few bits to sort before the MOT now - rear fog light, rear inner wheel arches, exhaust mounts, a service

(https://i.imgur.com/xigrnxkh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/fQ9C5xvh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/UEG4gVQh.jpg)
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: MR TWO on November 4, 2018, 15:15
Thats quite a result - congratulations!
Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: CrazySX on November 4, 2018, 15:24
Looking good. Just needs dropping a few inches Now;)

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Title: Re: Fraud RS200
Post by: alancdavis on May 29, 2022, 00:39
Interesting project ,,would like to do one of these