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Title: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 19, 2018, 19:35
Ok, southern is sure true in the south of Andalucia.
Belle, not unanimous; my son thinks she looks like a flattened frog...

Here is my introduction: https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?topic=66561.0

Bit of an odd one this car. Imported by Toyota Spain late 2003, it is a 2002 model and also it has a special mention of the vehicle specs that 205/50R15 up front is homologated.

Dove grey with hard top, smt box, LSD, AC and an OEM radio/cassette/dvd, no other options.

Bought with 112k kms on the clock.
Almost 90k by the first owner in 8 years time. The rest by the second owner; a car salesman who had it for himself but aways used sales vehicles.
Some of the panels have had a simple overspray. No bondo, no panels replaced.
Looks like it has seen veryvéry little rain.

Thought the light grey way to ... grey so added some vinyl. I weelyweely wanted the red flutes but with the grey, the car looked too much like a Porsche 550.

(https://myalbum.com/photo/8v0V1vpoJTGM/1k0.jpg)

Better add some ´touge drift´ and ´Manga´!!!

Son, his mom and my gfs were horrified. For one about the silly mid life crisis (thanks for the compliment ladies), secondly for the pubescent comic thing.
Once I had it done, they were all again in agreement; that it did work on this car.

Next was sort the ´lean mixture´ fault that had appeared. First an OBD port reader plug and app.
Told the resident female that it was related to the pre-cat. Easily enough solved but best buy a decat manifold. Did not make her any the wiser about the Goodrich brake lines ordered.
The fault was sorted by cleaning the MAF sensor.
Oh and swapped the paper element for a Pipercross foam one. Better or not; for me it is a go to left over from the eighties when TwinAir and PolyAir were all but mandatory replacements.

Brake lines are mounted.
Manifold almost done. Fiddling with the heat shields. A shame to hide the shiney manifold but it avoids trouble at the ITV (Spanish MoT).

(https://myalbum.com/photo/XSdUMUNC6zQb/1k0.jpg)


Next on the list are a strut brace up front and the MAP mod.

Would lóve to replace the heavyweight OEM muffler with something featherweight, but do most definitely NÓT want more noise!
Will come up with something. I still have a carbon outer tube supermono and ditto superbike ´mufflers´ lying about. Up from the cat., transvers mounted like the OEM one, exit on the  other side and down under the rear skirt. Just need someone local to bend me the neccessary large diameter tubing. Could probably use the OEM pipes, but don´t want to cut that set-up.

Also on the list is a Li-Fe battery. Truely awesome new battery chemistry. Not just 10 kilo lighter but they also hold charge way better, charge quicker and have higher cold crank amps. A must really for an MR2. Bit costly though so best when the lead-acid one gets iffy.

Thanks for your time.

Petrus

Update about mods per 10/´21

Mod overview sofar:

Deletes:
Frunk and bucket
Power steering
Airbags
Antenna
Sound system incl. speakers
Rear cubby lids
Softtop shelf
Carpet and damping matts
Rearview mirror
Sunvisors
Rear plastic guards aka nappies
Petrol vapour canister
Intake duct through mudguard
Deleetd front crash bar.
Lightened rear crash bar.
Swapped OEM washer fluid reservoir for lightweight bag.
Miscelaneous stuff

Swapped/fitted:

Front strut brace
Mid belly brace (Snelbaard)
Front lower arm braces (Snelbaard)
TRD rear low arm braces

TRD Sportivo subframe spacers
TRD Sportivo shocks & springs
Enkei RPF1 wheels
Brembo front discs/pads

Lightweight wheel nuts
LiFe battery 0.8 kg.
Wooden steering wheel
Hard shell bucket seats
Higher wattage main beam bulbs
Battery quick (dis)connect

´Tuning´:
Decat manifold (heatshield refitted)
Decat mid pipe
DIY muffler
Cap Weir´s MAF mod.
Iridium plugs
TwinAir filterfoam
Funneled 76mm air horn
90mm bell mouth
Lightweight underdrive alternator pulley
Lightweight cranshaft pulley

Aero:
Hood vents
Under bumper lip
Rear lip
3D rear wing with ultra light side plates.
Mongos

Aesthetic:[/]
Bonnet wrap.
Side decals
Tsurikawa
Chrome interior accents
Engine bay bling
Pokeball shift knob
Doraemon belt pads
Hello Kitty exhaust tip

Bottom line:
under 900 kilo
some 155-160 hp
from 8.4 to 5.6 kg/hp
sharper handling, improved roadholding

Wish list:
Lightweight bonnet
Lightweight rear lid

(https://myalbum.com/photo/xjhBFcdSsKkh/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on December 19, 2018, 22:07
Li-Fe you say....

Tell.me.more
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on December 19, 2018, 22:43
+1
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 19, 2018, 23:02
Lithium-Iron or more accurately LiFePO4, LithiumIronPhosfate.
Not thé lightest but very much more resistant to discharging and overcharging than the mobile phone type lightweights popularly called LiPo.
They have found their way into automotive application as racing batteries but also after market for motorbikes.
I have one in our rally car for 2 years now and am AWED!

As a perspective; have always lóathed batteries for any sporting/racing application and for over 30 years always sought for a magnet/electronic ignition solution or lightweight battery alternative. Always a trade-of  :'(  The LiFe batteries are simply all advantages.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 20, 2018, 11:46
Found both motorcycle dampers.

Thinking of swapping the LiFe from the rally car for the lead-acid in MR2. Rather iffy capacity though. Saving 10+ kilos is only good if the car starts in the first place.
I will have a look at the connectors as those are bound to be different as well as the wrong way around. There is a law about that  ;)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: jonbill on December 20, 2018, 12:15
From what I read, you have to make sure your charging system    doesn't go above 14.4 volts. Does the MR2 alternator guarantee to keep under that?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 20, 2018, 13:57
Quote from: jonbill on December 20, 2018, 12:15
From what I read, you have to make sure your charging system    doesn't go above 14.4 volts. Does the MR2 alternator guarantee to keep under that?

The LiFe is not so picky. Max voltage in real life is 15V for initial charge and 14.8 for subsequent chargings. Also they do not explode/burn like LiPo.

The regulator on the alternator should stop charging at 14.4.

If you are in doubt/unsure then install a volt meter.

Seems I coulb be in luck. The battery poles are on the correct sides and the MR terminals look like they can be easily adapted to fit.

The battery I have is tíny. Not really enough. The car shoúld start ok enough but with the slightest discharge, whether you left the radio on or whatever, it will become iffy.
Still worth a try I think. Weighs only 0.8 kilo.
Hence my question about the key off discharge. May need to fit a small solar panel charger.

Back to the current state of affairs.
Just back from a test ride.

The brakes are initially disappointing; no noticeable change UNTILLLLL you push harder; then they are rock solid with nó squishiness whatsoever.
This is what you want really. Not like the old Citroen on/off button. Not immediately full on when you start to feel contact with the pedal but perfect modulations from there.

The exhaust. Well, both hidden and not audibly modified either. Again both ´disappointing´ and just what I want.
I did not expect ány noticeable difference and indeed there is hardly any. If you would not knów you would not be aware of just that bit more, well growl is not the word, so sound betreen 3 and 5K revs.
Same thing the smoothness. It ís there, the difference, at those revs but not showing on the seat of the pants torque graph.

Anyone know what the standard muffler weighs?
The carbon ones I have are 2 kilos including a bit of pipe. Cannot imagine they will muffle a lot though. If I decide to have a goo, I will most definitely do a temporary mounting sound check first.


Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 20, 2018, 15:58
and gone  ;D


(https://myalbum.com/photo/5uP4fGmiN0Sv/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 20, 2018, 19:08
Quote from: Petrus on December 20, 2018, 13:57
Anyone know what the standard muffler weighs?

Found it; just under 13 kilos incl. the bits of pipe. That is rather a lót sitting that far up and back. It is nicely quiet too though.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on December 20, 2018, 19:42
While you're at it, I don't suppose you could weigh the stock exhaust manifold couldyou?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 20, 2018, 19:55
Quote from: shnazzle on December 20, 2018, 19:42
While you're at it, I don't suppose you could weigh the stock exhaust manifold couldyou?

Could do and will.
´Weighing´ by hand I think it must be about 6 kilos.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on December 20, 2018, 22:25
Quote from: Petrus on December 20, 2018, 13:57
The battery I have is tíny. Not really enough. The car shoúld start ok enough but with the slightest discharge, whether you left the radio on or whatever, it will become iffy.
Still worth a try I think. Weighs only 0.8 kilo.
:o :D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 21, 2018, 10:42
Quote from: shnazzle on December 20, 2018, 19:42
While you're at it, I don't suppose you could weigh the stock exhaust manifold couldyou?

5.85 kilos.

At you service  ;)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on December 21, 2018, 10:46
Quote from: Petrus on December 21, 2018, 10:42
Quote from: shnazzle on December 20, 2018, 19:42
While you're at it, I don't suppose you could weigh the stock exhaust manifold couldyou?

5.85 kilos.

At you service  ;)
Thank you very much! Quite a weight saving then on my new manifold at 3.6kg
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 21, 2018, 11:56
Quote from: shnazzle on December 21, 2018, 10:46
Quite a weight saving then on my new manifold at 3.6kg

Am having a look at the battery this afternoon. I hope. Will put the electricity-vats on the scales. Fingers crossed the little one packs enough of a punch.

Will also replace the spare wheel/jack with a can of foam. While the weight reduction is nice, the extra luggage space for the charming company is of greater importance beyond comparison  :))

In my book, weight reduction is ever so more important than more power. On the road even more so if the extra oompf comes at higher revs. at the price of low end grunt.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 21, 2018, 13:07
Wow :o
You guys are probably well aware but I was surprises that there was 15 kilo to be saved by swapping spare&stuff for a can of foam. Will add a basic tool roll but that is not going to scare the scales. :o
With the wheel from the well, that is a surpringly ´large´ space  :notworthy:

The LiFe Lead-acid swap looks feaseble. Have the LiFe on the charger.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on December 21, 2018, 13:47
Have a read of the alarm move in the how-to.
I do a full shop with that front bin empty.

Bear in mind that removing the extra weight in the front does affect handling. The rear is now relatively heavier.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 21, 2018, 14:14
Quote from: shnazzle on December 21, 2018, 13:47
Have a read of the alarm move in the how-to.

Will do.

Quote
I do a full shop with that front bin empty.
:D

Quote
Bear in mind that removing the extra weight in the front does affect handling. The rear is now relatively heavier.

Thanks for the pointer.
Yes, though any clear infor on whether the lighter front increases or decreases understeer?

Shedding weight at the rear is a work in progress  ;)

3 kilos from the manifold ticked off.

Will know later this afternoon íf I can swap the batteries and what it does.

What I am  :o about is the weight of the exhaust system:
Stock muffler weights close to 13 kilo. Stock midpipe weights 7.3kg and the stock manifold 5.85kg. Say 26 kilo.
The midpipe with cat is not thát heavy and not a lot can be saved there, but the muffler...
A JDM street legal titanium cat back is as silent as stock and weighs 3,5 kilo. Ok, the cost is silly but it does proove a point.
As the muffler sits high and what´s more BEHIND the rear axle any weight shed there is also ´re-loading´ the front.
I am só looking at this.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 21, 2018, 14:41

Quote from: shnazzle on December 21, 2018, 13:47
Have a read of the alarm move in the how-to.



(https://myalbum.com/photo/6tQUB37cD08q/1k0.jpg)


:)


p.s. Theoretically, less weight up front should deminish understeer. Same as a bit of extra air in the front tires.
Following some theoretic logic, less weight could be compensated by a bit less pressure.
I currently run .1 bar more up front.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 21, 2018, 17:38
Since the LiFe is VÉRY much smaller there are some minor mods to the OEM clamp needed. I decided not to cut to size so I can revert to the lead-acid.

LiFe-ly junior started the engine with at least as much gusto as (t)aciturn big brother.
No fault messages, sofar so good.
Proof of the pudding is in the daily use though. Nights are currently some 5 C. below zero.

Standard lead-acid battery 12.6 kg.
LiFePo4 from de rally car 0.8 kg.
Weight loss 11.6 kg.

That makes;
2 kg. manifold,
15 kg. spare&stuff,
11.6 kg. battery,
Say 28.5 kg. total.
Níce!!

Right, back to the little things  ;)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on December 21, 2018, 18:14
Impressive

Well played
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on December 21, 2018, 19:14
Loving the idea of that battery. Will be watching progress on that
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 21, 2018, 23:42
-2 inside the car, windscreen frosted; again started at least as energetically as usual. I am tentatively positive. If this prooves reliable, then that is an easy fat gain.

If only the muffler would go as simple. I think I must have a socalled ´decibel killer´ somewhere too. If not, then 15€ or so would get one.
When I get round to that, the steel rear bumper could easily be lightened by about 1 kilo. Again; because that is behínd the rear axle, it shifts the balance forward by móre than 1 kilo.
The latter is why the muffler gets so much of my focus; any weight loss behind the axle shifts móre than that loss forward; it equals adding weightless % to the front = double win.

For the less technical inclined; weight behínd the rear axle gives a momentum around that rear axle, lífting the front: 10 kilo some 24 cm. behind the rear axle lifts the front axle by 1 kilo.
Rounding it off, removing this 1% from the rear, shifts the balance by 1,1%.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 22, 2018, 08:02
Went down to the village to set up the market stall for mountain love; -5. Started no problem.

Back to the farm took the lady home. The ccccóld el cheapo rubber gave lots of way and ´Wow, that is not much grip at all!! You need better ones indeed.´ so that is sorted too  ;)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 22, 2018, 20:58
Took a break from market preps and dozed off for a moment, woke up realising that the MAF modification may not be compatible with smt: The very same fooling of the ECU into advancing the ignition might see the shift mode changed to lighter  load than reality too. Any first hand experience on here?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 23, 2018, 12:40
Little one punching 15 weight categories higher  ;D


(https://myalbum.com/photo/jMUv9C9Ow06p/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on December 23, 2018, 12:52
Quote from: Petrus on December 23, 2018, 12:40
Little one punching 15 weight categories higher  ;D


(https://myalbum.com/photo/jMUv9C9Ow06p/1k0.jpg)
Ha! That's tiny!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 23, 2018, 13:00
Quote from: shnazzle on December 23, 2018, 12:52
Ha! That's tiny!
and the (lack of) weight is weírd. Like lifting an empty milk carton when you expect it to be full. It weight léss than a 1l. milk carton!!

Think of it; you need to seriously lift to get the OEM one out. This one you put in clamped between thumb and two finger. It is ...well, like I wrote, weird.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on December 23, 2018, 13:56
Quote from: Petrus on December 23, 2018, 13:00
Quote from: shnazzle on December 23, 2018, 12:52
Ha! That's tiny!
and the (lack of) weight is weírd. Like lifting an empty milk carton when you expect it to be full. It weight léss than a 1l. milk carton!!

Think of it; you need to seriously lift to get the OEM one out. This one you put in clamped between thumb and two finger. It is ...well, like I wrote, weird.
If it works well, I'm a convert
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: jvanzyl on December 23, 2018, 14:31
Don't suppose you could post a link to the exact battery?

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Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: 1979scotte on December 23, 2018, 14:34
Quote from: jvanzyl on December 23, 2018, 14:31
Don't suppose you could post a link to the exact battery?

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+1
Although I will need something with much higher CCA to get my V6 going.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on December 23, 2018, 15:23
Quote from: 1979scotte on December 23, 2018, 14:34
Quote from: jvanzyl on December 23, 2018, 14:31
Don't suppose you could post a link to the exact battery?

Sent from my Moto G (5) using Tapatalk

+1
Although I will need something with much higher CCA to get my V6 going.

@1979scotte (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20268) and when is that likely to happen again?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 23, 2018, 15:50
Which exáct battery you want depends on how far you want to jump  ;)

Have a look at the brand Shido, type LiFePo. Something 7,5 or 8 Ah (or plus if you want). Say BMW 1200 or Harley 1450  compatible.

They are not cheap but then it saves a lót of weight and you get a better, longer lasting battery.


Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: 1979scotte on December 23, 2018, 16:47
Quote from: Joesson on December 23, 2018, 15:23
Quote from: 1979scotte on December 23, 2018, 14:34
Quote from: jvanzyl on December 23, 2018, 14:31
Don't suppose you could post a link to the exact battery?

Sent from my Moto G (5) using Tapatalk

+1
Although I will need something with much higher CCA to get my V6 going.

@1979scotte (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20268) and when is that likely to happen again?

I really don't know Tony.
I expected it months ago passed caring now the weather is cold and wet.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on December 23, 2018, 18:42
Tis said "absence makes the heart grow fonder" , when the sun again has his hat on I'm sure  you and Bee6 will be coming out to play.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 25, 2018, 11:34
Btw, the battery I mounted is nót the one I would have bought for the MR. I would have opted for a larger one. It is just that I had this one for ´free´.
Like with the superbike carbon cans. Would go for an aluminium* one but I have these two lying about.

* less temperature issues: the carbon tubes are bolted/riveted to metal bits and this wíll move since the carbon hardly expands with heat. As such the combination is less sturdy/durabel.
Also the carbon looks conspicuously modified.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: idnan on December 27, 2018, 16:01
This one seems a good shout:

https://www.tayna.co.uk/motorcycle-batteries/shido/ytx20l-bs/

Only 1.4kg but the higher AH ones are close to £200
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 27, 2018, 17:20
I´d say go for it.
The one I have fitted is smaller still, 3 years abused and so far is up to the winter job.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: idnan on December 27, 2018, 17:27
I actually do need a new battery but I'm 50/50 about spending three times what i was going to originally on a normal battery
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on December 27, 2018, 19:12
Quote from: idnan on December 27, 2018, 17:27
I actually do need a new battery but I'm 50/50 about spending three times what i was going to originally on a normal battery

@idnan (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=25551) -This Colin Chapman quote from the Lotus website may help your decision.
Throughout the company's eight decades, it is innovation on road and track that has been key in delivering success. At the root of our DNA is Colin Chapman's obsession with light weight.
"Simplify, then add lightness", he said.
It was his philosophy, way before 'minimalism' became fashionable.

"Adding power makes you faster on the straights; subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere", was another of Chapman's premises.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 27, 2018, 20:20
Quote from: Joesson on December 27, 2018, 19:12
-This Colin Chapman quote from the Lotus website may help your decision.
Throughout the company's eight decades, it is innovation on road and track that has been key in delivering success. At the root of our DNA is Colin Chapman's obsession with light weight.
"Simplify, then add lightness", he said.
It was his philosophy, way before 'minimalism' became fashionable.

"Adding power makes you faster on the straights; subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere", was another of Chapman's premises.

I have ancient roots in motorcycle racing and there is no substitute for lightness.
It also makes you stop shorter; a lót, meaning you can keep it floored for longer.

Now that is track talk. On the road less is more because it is safer; you stop shorter and steer quicker.
No need to go overboard on the road though as a lighter car is bumpier unless you get the unsprung weight down too.

Anyway, still looking for a muffler to add more lightness  ;)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 28, 2018, 14:13
Bit of a set back here.
Mountain love said she would contribute 200€ recieved notice that a company she has business with has júst gone into recievership so she wll not get het outstanding bills paid.
´Only money´ and missing out on the 200€ for mods a luxury problem really.

The newby info on these pages I find extremely helpful in determaining priorities. Best first buy a front strut brace while looking out for an OEM muffler.


p.s. strut brace ordered. And a technical manual, and a bag of those plastic push pins for the front vanity shroud.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 1, 2019, 14:58
First of Januar 2019; wónderful weather, out for a spin through the mountains during the extended lunch ´hour´ over here.
Over 150 kms of twisty bits steeply up and down, almost all in 2nd and 3rd, with at móst a dozen other cars.
The charming company has a sore throat; what is there not to like  :))

(https://myalbum.com/photo/E87Ga9Kgn5zA/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/LIYm1wTplgOk/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 7, 2019, 15:30
Been out at the coast all weekend with the 5 doors, so today being a very quiet bank-holliday and absolutely gorgeous weather, took out De Kikker.

Took a lovely route with as many flowering almond trees as possible, seesawing between sea level and 1100 meters, crossing half dozen mountain passes.

This is a snapshop taken above Lake Viñulea climbing to the Puerto del Sol (1086m.). A bit hard to see but from where I take the shot to the sky it is all zigzagging up: Perfect tarmac, ober 600 hight meters of switchbacks.

(https://myalbum.com/photo/MB172a2yyxa9/1k0.jpg)

Two more of the views

(https://myalbum.com/photo/0iIMDVMvCsdP/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/EPthDALapimk/1k0.jpg)

A rather funny footnote is that at both stops underway someone asked if he could take a photo of the car  ;D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 10, 2019, 11:48
Cccccóld south.

For those thinking I was kidding about the cold:
Seven days of sun, 0% rain, in the weather forecast, so planning a long weekend at the coast.
Pushed my car out in the sun to thaw out and wash with time for it to dry. No water, all outside water lines frozen stiff  :-\

Yesterday evening, when the sun was already setting again, there was still frost on the ground on the shade side of the farm.

Going to split some logs now, hoping there will be water when I finish.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on January 10, 2019, 11:53
Not a bad place to drive a 2! Nice
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 10, 2019, 12:56
Quote from: shnazzle on January 10, 2019, 11:53
Not a bad place to drive a 2! Nice

As I explained in the new members intro, the roads here are THE one and only reason for buying the MR2. There are véry few vehicles beter suited to the southern mountain/country roads.
With the 300 days son/year it is a joy to drive a cabrio and more so with my life style of ´dating´ as a hobby. The MR2 is a not at all practical option among cabrios and thus midship concept needed to be rather a serious driving fun argument and it is.
The down side of not being able to take much luggage has the inherent advantage of the charming company not being able to haul along much luggage  ;D

Anyway, done some log splitting, changed in dry clothes and ... still no water  :(
Right where is the measuring tape? Got an idea for the front number plate.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 10, 2019, 13:14
The front plate sits right in front of the cooling air entry.
If you look at the numbers it is actually scary:
The effective grill opening is 780 x 100 mm.
The Euro spec plate covers over 50%.
Over here in Spain there is a reduced plate for special cases. p.e. when it cannot be mounted in the middle as in the case of Alfas.
This is explained in an instruction to police and inspection stations. This letter also mentions that the list of exceptions is not closed and that restriction of cooling capacity is a valid reason for excepton.
The problem is that it does not mention where you can obtain the exception.
I have drawn up the request, added calculations and refer to the document. Now, the where to send it to....

p.s. one step further. Found a request form on the central DGT (DoT) site. Also the department which should deal with it according to the organogram.
Forwarded the info to the gf who has the necessary digital certificate ánd knowledge to submit the request.

Checking the water again...
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 16, 2019, 12:55
The gf told me that she had received email from the DGT central office in Madrid that they had accepted the request and had forwarded it to the Málaga office to investigate.
The good news being no bad news  ;D
Málaga is notoriously slow so I don´t expect any response from them soon.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on January 16, 2019, 13:16
I believe the word for this is  mañana ;)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 16, 2019, 13:29
Quote from: Joesson on January 16, 2019, 13:16
I believe the word for this is  mañana ;)

Mañana, Málaga; close enough  ;D

Found a nice video about the TRD door thingamies; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb7hKPY_oI4
At 1:05 is the crux imo.
Hoping Dev finds his OEM strikers; want this one ánd his bushings.
Now, the resident female received her present today; a weallywéally gurly HelloKittyesque transparent pink moble phone cover with glitters floating in suspension and the edge coverd in sparklies. Her being over the moon with it, tickled pink is the apt expression, was thé right moment to bore her with the door thingamies and she gets it she says  :)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 16, 2019, 13:33
and now for something completely different  ;D

Parked along a bit high sidewalk yesterday. The floor was at least 5 cm lower and the door only júst cleared it. You should have seen me get out  :P I nearly wet myself* laughing at me, myself and I.

* could be my age tóó  :))
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 16, 2019, 18:51
Oh my.

Doing farm chores is quality time to let the brain simmer on a problem. It is like not trying hard to remember a detail that keeps júst beyond your recollection, the draw a cappuccino and find the detail creeping up and jump to the fore of the brain unexpectedly.

So, while looking after the animals and bringing fire wood in, I worked out whý Dev´s door bushing works so good.
Mulling that over I checked the oil level of De Kikker. Topped it up.

Then went down to the village to collect my son from free style climbing. On the camino I hear a new rumbling rattle. Stopped and gone. Turned up the road. Still gone. Turned left towards the village and heard something roll and fall. WOAAAAHHH: stopped under the next road light.
Popped the enging lid open and
@##@||@!!!!
Oil smell, and oild dripping dowm ... everything. I had forgotten to put the oil filler cap back in.
Had no mobile so... hollered the nearest bloke to shine me a light with his.
After some educated guesswork found the cap on the chassis!!!!

The Good (working out of Dev´s thingamy), The Bad (forgetting the filler cap) and The Ugly (me)...
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on January 16, 2019, 20:11
Oil cap, radiator cap, dust cap! Petrus you must be the first on here to ever leave a cap off and you choose the messiest!


;)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 16, 2019, 23:06
Quote from: Joesson on January 16, 2019, 20:11
Oil cap, radiator cap, dust cap! Petrus you must be the first on here to ever leave a cap off and you choose the messiest!
;)


The older the sillier, which makes it my birth right  :D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on January 17, 2019, 11:01
Quote from: Petrus on January 16, 2019, 23:06
Quote from: Joesson on January 16, 2019, 20:11
Oil cap, radiator cap, dust cap! Petrus you must be the first on here to ever leave a cap off and you choose the messiest!
;)


The older the sillier, which makes it my birth right  :D

Petrus, we are both likely in the exclusive Veteran section of an Elite Forum  :)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 17, 2019, 11:18
Quote from: Joesson on January 17, 2019, 11:01
Petrus, we are both likely in the exclusive Veteran section of an Elite Forum  :)

Is that so?
Grey hair (or what is left of it) covered by a cap seems to be quite common in second (third) youth cabrios  ;)

The ´classic´* car club at the coast is exclusively order blokes, pensioners, almost all older then me.

* between brackets as anything luxury branded is seen as classic; even modern mass produced Ford engined Jags. Ditto ánything cabrio.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Carolyn on January 17, 2019, 11:32
I resorted to putting a string on mine.  It's called geriatric prevention.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 17, 2019, 11:45
Quote from: Carolyn on January 17, 2019, 11:32
I resorted to putting a string on mine.  It's called geriatric prevention.

That is hilarious  ;D
and realistic  :(
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on January 17, 2019, 14:52
Quote from: Petrus on January 17, 2019, 11:45
Quote from: Carolyn on January 17, 2019, 11:32
I resorted to putting a string on mine.  It's called geriatric prevention.

That is hilarious  ;D
and realistic  :(


It's likely that it is only Service  Mechanic's and  "enthusiast" motorists that ever check/ top up the oil in a car and that is why the manufacturer's have not fitted some device to prevent leaving the oil cap off. Possibly the same thoughts with the other filler caps.
Only the fuel cap is used on a regular basis by less than enthusiastic drivers.
I do recall seeing various aftermarket plastic replacement fuel caps and even rags stuffed into the filler ( rather like a molotov cocktail) where the filler cap had been left by the pump at the petrol station.
More recently, our 2's have the fuel filler cap attached to the car with a variant of @Carolyn (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=22891) 's geriatric preventer and my newer daily does not have a filler cap, it has some sort of automatic closure.
We are told "The future is electric" and there should be less need for "caps" so less chance of forgetting to replace them. But as my "Thought for today" how this will be generated is becoming a concern.
I suggest they will "keep us in the dark" or put a "cap" on its use to eke out the supplies.


Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on January 17, 2019, 15:23
Ya'll oldies... Funny stuff :)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: jvanzyl on January 17, 2019, 15:53
Quote from: Petrus on January 17, 2019, 11:45
Quote from: Carolyn on January 17, 2019, 11:32
I resorted to putting a string on mine.  It's called geriatric prevention.

That is hilarious  ;D
and realistic  :(

Quality reading today! love it!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Topdownman on January 18, 2019, 13:11
When I take a cap off I like to leave it on top of the engine lid catch receiver.

That way the lid doesnt shut and I remember to put them back on.

Not very funny but practical!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on January 18, 2019, 14:57
Quote from: Topdownman on January 18, 2019, 13:11
When I take a cap off I like to leave it on top of the engine lid catch receiver.

That way the lid doesnt shut and I remember to put them back on.

Not very funny but practical!

That would work just fine but you would need a longer "geriatric preventer"  piece of string to enable the cap to reach the engine lid catch receiver. ;)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Topdownman on January 18, 2019, 15:43
Ah, how long is a piece of string?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 18, 2019, 16:25
The weather forecast said rain as per Saturday so hurried down to the coast yesterday after feeding the kid. The resident female had already offered to collect him from the cinema Friday night so no need to ask that.

Sunny so top down, cap up.
Right, that cap. Not as bad as they come; a ´Pike´s Peak´ one from a gf who drov up it. Still, a baseball cap is not my thing.
However sensible and useful to keep the sun out of your eyes, imo it takes a lot to pull it off and I do not. Ok, I have it neatly adjusted so the wind does not blow it away and I can still pull it off with ease but that is not what I meant; it is not my style, imo not compatible with the MR2 either.
When I arrived at the charming Malageña host she observed the same thing. That she did not want to because it was a present and means something to me but... a baseball cap? No!
All good and well but what else??
Sofar she has not come up with anything.

This morning she and I went for some shopping on her Makro card; we both needed some stuff and the resident mountain company needed parafin paper.
The route thataway has a lót of up to 5 lanes! roundabouts..... ;D
With the frump empty it is surprising how much one can stow away in the MR. Three bags in the rear cubbies, over 25 kilos of varied stuff in the frump and the 10 kilo pack paper vertical behind the passenger seat.
Off for a drink at the beach. Again wide roundabouts and I was positively surprised that the car still behaves predictable and easy to control two up with 60 kilos of luggage. It remains nót a drift car; you can drift it, but you knów the angle of drift is limited; consequence of concept; you cannot hooligan it. Anyway, I appreciate the forgiving way the cheap road rubber lets go.
On a near empty parking lot gave the charming company the steering wheel. She lóves it! Extremely agile she says but without being nervous. She was a bit anticipative about the latter but was positively surprised.

Right, let´s have a look for headgear on the web...
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on January 18, 2019, 16:56
Quote from: Topdownman on January 18, 2019, 15:43
Ah, how long is a piece of string?


A piece of string is exactly twice as long as it is from one end to the middle.


Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on January 18, 2019, 17:08
Petrus said:
-"let's have a look for headgear on the web"

I found this for you Petrus, it would sem to fit the bill for your variable temperatures.
The front peak will shade your eyes from the bright sunshine, the rear peak will keep the sun's rays from burning the back of your neck. The side flaps can be pulled down to keep your ears warm when you are up towards the snowline— perfect!

https://www.christys-hats.com/sherlock-hat-tweed-green-orange-check?fee=7&fep=830&utm_source=google_shopping&utm_medium=feedspark&utm_campaign=christys&utm_term=pla&utm_content=fs_pla&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2rLqm-f33wIVirftCh1_pQoFEAQYASABEgL7afD_BwE
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: delhusband on January 18, 2019, 17:35
Quote from: Joesson on January 18, 2019, 17:08
Petrus said:
-"let's have a look for headgear on the web"

I found this for you Petrus, it would sem to fit the bill for your variable temperatures.
The front peak will shade your eyes from the bright sunshine, the rear peak will keep the sun's rays from burning the back of your neck. The side flaps can be pulled down to keep your ears warm when you are up towards the snowline— perfect!

https://www.christys-hats.com/sherlock-hat-tweed-green-orange-check?fee=7&fep=830&utm_source=google_shopping&utm_medium=feedspark&utm_campaign=christys&utm_term=pla&utm_content=fs_pla&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2rLqm-f33wIVirftCh1_pQoFEAQYASABEgL7afD_BwE (https://www.christys-hats.com/sherlock-hat-tweed-green-orange-check?fee=7&fep=830&utm_source=google_shopping&utm_medium=feedspark&utm_campaign=christys&utm_term=pla&utm_content=fs_pla&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2rLqm-f33wIVirftCh1_pQoFEAQYASABEgL7afD_BwE)
I realise I'm probably going to get into BIG trouble for suggesting this, and I promise I mean no offence, but the hat that Walter Matthau wore in "Grumpy old men" would do the job, without making you look like a super sleuth (*and runs for cover...*)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 18, 2019, 18:44
Yéééars ago got a black cotton version fake fur lined version of a russion type winter cap. Used it a lot. Also when in Poland, near the Russian border catching wolves to put on a radio collar.
Not used it much since I moved south; simply too warm. The only time I nééded it was when I went up to the Granada ski station on a winter night. It was unbelievably clear with another week of 100% forecasted so top down I went with my son.
We took the secundairy GR3201 road from Cenes de la Vega to Quéntar. Stayed with the ski instructor gf. Early next morning continued the GR3201 with her and her daughter, to Lopera, the left to Sol y Nieve. Mán what stunning road.
I did not need the russian hat in the morning; remember that the southern sun is as hot as the northern summer sun.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 20, 2019, 15:13
Ohhhh my.....  :o


(http://www.oldtimer-bekleidung.de/images/product_images/popup_images/222_0.jpg)



and no, definitely NOT!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on January 20, 2019, 15:25
Hahaha. Do. It! For the club
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 20, 2019, 15:33
Ok, we have established that the older the sillier but thát old I am not.

There is no denying age though and a baseball cap is just not on anymore either.
I have a cloth flat cap which is pratical I admit but the problem is that I have seen many episodes of ´One foot in the grave´...  :-X


(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/08/05/00/000070D600000258-0-image-m-63_1470354616717.jpg)



The Malagueña gf said that on the Sanday morning market of the recinto de ferias there is a stall with a húge, wide offer of head gear. I remember a sort of ´panama´ straw cap but not quite the exact model. Could be just what I want ... or not.
Good reason to stay the weekend with her  :D
Mountain love wants me to change the parafin paper for a larger size so win-win.


(https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1p2Y3QpXXXXc2XFXXq6xXFXXXG/228386612/HTB1p2Y3QpXXXXc2XFXXq6xXFXXXG.jpg?width=754&height=740&size=54749&hash=56243)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on January 20, 2019, 18:24
How many girlfriends are you entertaining exactly?
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190120/19d78eaaa7cefdbeec451ecec2c4471a.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 20, 2019, 19:20
Three:


(https://opentextbc.ca/clinicalskills/wp-content/uploads/sites/82/2015/09/SliderBoard2-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 21, 2019, 15:25
Oh my....

The strut brace is in and...  does not fit. Apparently it is asymetric and thus LHD/LHD specific. The wiper motor is the crux. Not by much, but almost = not at all.

Ok, I should have made sure and asked the vendor, but since my address is SPAIN!!! I think they are at least as much at fault.
That does not solve the fitment issue though and sending it back is more hassle than modding the brace.

I was thinking about not refitting the vanity panel anyway so that is one thing that needs not be cut up more.

First greasing the strut bearings. Have a neat, very multi purpose syringe that will be of use.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 22, 2019, 15:30
Ok,  cut & rewelded.
Hopefully-1 the cubby lid still opens far enough.

Paint in a moment.
Hopefully-2 it dries a bit quick so I can to fit it before I leave for the coast: It´s the Malagueña´s birthday and she wants to visit Grazalema. It is a jaw dropping drive so would lóve to try feel the difference.



Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on January 22, 2019, 15:51

Petrus saidFirst greasing the strut bearings. Have a neat, very multi purpose syringe that will be of use.

@Carolyn (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=22891) suggested using the rubber cap as a " force pump" to do that job -fill the cap with grease and push it into place.
Not tried that myself as I regreased the bearings when off the car, but they did need grease and that was at around 60K.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 22, 2019, 16:26
Thanks for the cup-pump tip.
With the syringe I can ínject´ it in the bearing. Then with the space filled up the cap push should do the rest.

One of the next things on the to-do list, is changing power steering fluid for which the syringe will do service again  ;)

About the hopes...  the second did not apply as no, it did not fit. Got to cut & weld a bit more. Maybe tomorrow. If not then later. My agenda for the coming days is rather taken up by the girls  8)

Pretty sure the lid will not fit anymore. Well, fit yes, but not open. So it will have to go. The good side is that without the vanity shield and lid, adding the brace will amount to adding lightness as they weigh more than the brace  :D

The sunvisor plugs did not pan out either: The envelope was in the mail box mas pronto que pronto but only the envelope. It was not international travel proof and the plugs had fallen through the seam that opened up.
Still taken the sunvisors off though; piece of black tape over the hole, screws back in:  If you don´t look at it, you don´t see it  :) and I do see more. All sky ofcourse but it does add up to the perception of more space. 

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 23, 2019, 09:27
All near bláck sky  :o

Stormy to boot.

Still going up to Grazalema.

The downside is that it will be slippy so take seriously longer.
The upside is that it will be slippy and thus sliding at lower speeds  :D

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on January 23, 2019, 13:08
Always appreciate that aspect of slippery roads :) Fun without speed. Safe fun!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Topdownman on January 23, 2019, 13:40
I use my froot lid with a front strut brace that only allows it to open a few centimetres. I just ooen it and pull forward as the hinges just pull off and on.

To refit I just push it onto the rear hinges and close.

i wouldnt want to be without a lid for it!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 23, 2019, 20:08
GREAT ride.
Málaga - Ronda - Grazalema - Ubrique - Cortes de la Frontera - Manilva - Málaga.
So we crossed the Serranito de Ronda, Sierra de Nieves and anther national park I forgot the name of.
Just about deserted secundary road só quiet that we saw a Genet Cat cross the road!
On days like this you feel living like a prince in Andalucia.

The ´car´ did only one step wrong on a véry undulated broken patch of wet tarmac mid corner in the clouds.

Near Ronda we saw a plaque on the wall of a venta so just hád to stop and have a laugh..

(https://myalbum.com/photo/NgCtBTzgJWne/1k0.jpg)

Grazalema:

(https://myalbum.com/photo/P8GytMsV9QpM/1k0.jpg)

The one of three who actually is a nurse:

(https://myalbum.com/photo/0HtYWehN7Jc2/1k0.jpg)

and a patented solution for the toilet paper roll...

(https://myalbum.com/photo/TRapRZA6uLok/1k0.jpg)


Long day of driving with some rain so a good test for no-lid on the frump bucket.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 24, 2019, 10:20
Quote from: Topdownman on January 23, 2019, 13:40
I use my froot lid with a front strut brace that only allows it to open a few centimetres. I just ooen it and pull forward as the hinges just pull off and on.

To refit I just push it onto the rear hinges and close.

i wouldnt want to be without a lid for it!

Just tried it and no go. Not enough space even for thát.
Not a speck in it though after several 100 kms.

Right, time to paint the brace now.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Carolyn on January 24, 2019, 10:45
I have the advantage of being close to an excellent breaker, so getting another cover for very little dosh is no problem for me.

So I got the jig saw out:
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 24, 2019, 11:13
Quote from: Carolyn on January 24, 2019, 10:45
I have the advantage of being close to an excellent breaker, so getting another cover for very little dosh is no problem for me.

So I got the jig saw out:

Thanks for that; looks seriously trick!!

I am more of a simpleton and thought it a good argument to shed the lid weight. Remember the 300 sunny days/year here. Currently using up the grey/damp ration quickly  ;)

The numer of breakers with MR2s in the UK does make me a bit envious. Last month I sourced quite extensively and found thréé in the whole of Spain; with most pieces gone and silly, I mean SILLY! prices.

The upside is that it is a very rare car. On the road trip yesterday counted a dozen Porscháhs (proper ones; not counting the Cayenne or Panamera) and two Fewwawis.
Al of those serious road blocks as they are simply too wide to go off the main through routes. Only two of the upmarket VWs driven by a male. Both Fewwawis were not driven; parked at the official restaurant.

Meanwhile painted the brace a second time.
First coat I dried in front of the fire. The salon and kitchen smell richly of solvent so will no doubt get a lecture from the resident female when she gets in.
Hello dear, happy to see you too  :P ;D

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 24, 2019, 12:13
(https://myalbum.com/photo/WMDZuOz5b5iS/1k0.jpg)

Unfortunately no time quite yet to try it out. Also wet roads with plenty of mud coating.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: moredun on January 24, 2019, 14:09
With the right brace ....

(http://brollachan.net/images/brace.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 24, 2019, 14:32
Quote from: moredun on January 24, 2019, 14:09
With the right brace ....

(http://brollachan.net/images/brace.jpg)

Nice one indeed!
Asymetric as well and would have been impossible to make fit.

As I wrote every advantage has its corresponding disadvantage; the two sides of a coin.
The vanity cover looks réally neat and the cubby cover is icing on that cake. I like that attention to detail a lot.

The downside is that is covers everything but fluid bottle caps meaning it needs to be taken out for anything else ánd, although only plastic, it is not weightless.
Same thing the cubby lid.

Also, any brace demands the cover to be cut and now I have not.

Was thinking, well, still am, about taking the cubby out as it is ever so easy to refit if a charming company would want to take an overnight bag along. Sofar have used it only once; for shopping which I really should not have been doing with the car.


Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Call the midlife! on January 24, 2019, 15:25
Quote from: moredun on January 24, 2019, 14:09
With the right brace ....

(http://brollachan.net/images/brace.jpg)
Tidy that, if you haven't already done so, I got some U channel rubber trim for mine, rubber coated wire clipping that just sleeves over the cut edge of the frunk plastic.
You might have to round the corners out a bit so it doesn't kink but it goes round a fairly tight corner well.


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Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 24, 2019, 17:54
It cleared up here so asked my son to do the horses and I went out for a spin.

First down to/through the village (cobbles), then up the Molinillo (switchbacks), back over the highway and then the test track.
About 12 degrees C., around sundown so everything getting rather damp. Got the cheapo rubber up to about 45 degrees and had great fun before going back to the farm.

Obviously too light an experience to go by but yes the difference is rather notable:
Immediately, just going down the track and later on the cobblestones the ride at the front is firmer. It is like a heavier set of springs. Rolling at more speed it stays more tought with less perceived bit roll; not the actual roll through the corners as the initial movement upon steering in; less delay in the car ´setting´.
Notably easier to keep the inside line thus more confidence inspiring which leads yoú to keep the inside line better, etc. and ... the movement of the doors in the frames is more obvious. Bring on the door spacers!



Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on January 24, 2019, 17:58
Good stuff! That front brace is magic.
Speaking of which... Have you got the lower center body brace?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 24, 2019, 18:26
Quote from: shnazzle on January 24, 2019, 17:58

Speaking of which... Have you got the lower center body brace?

Nope and probably not going to.
I plan to stop the stiffening at the door spacers.

Next is origami with the rear muffler.

Lighter wheels are very much on the want list.

I´d also like a front splitter to get a bít less lift on the highway. At 180 cm. wide, 10 cm. deep, even at 20 degrees angle it is effectively downward force of the wind pressure on 360 cm2. At 120 km/h that amounts to 25 kilos pulling the bumper down without adding áctual weight.
At 60 - 80 through a corner it still is 12 - 15 kilos more load on the tyres without any extra centrifugal push.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Carolyn on January 24, 2019, 18:35
I was a sceptic when it came to the underbrace.  Got one stupid cheap and tried it.  Made a huge difference, not so much to cornering as smoothing out the potholes!

As for less air under the car....

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on January 24, 2019, 18:45
Lift at speed is often due to the air dams missing off the front bumper. They make an odd amount of difference
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 24, 2019, 19:37
Wow Carolyn, that number plate would see my car overheat in summer! It is blocking half the radiator opening!!
Mine is the oblong shape so sitting pretty high, leaving more open area but stíll hampering enough for me to ask the Spanish Ministry of Transport  for a reduced sized on the ground of cooling problems.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on January 24, 2019, 19:46
Look at the great big slot in the bumper though to compensate :)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 24, 2019, 20:27
Quote from: shnazzle on January 24, 2019, 19:46
Look at the great big slot in the bumper though to compensate :)

If only the cubby would not sit behind it  ;)

The cubby out and a slot in the bonnet would be a cooler option. Literally.

Anyone have a lightweight bonnet with a slot for cheap?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 25, 2019, 13:19
The OEM muffler pipes are in the post; thanks to Idnan.

Dug out the carbon bike muffler.
Straight through absorbtion damping.
Effective internal length 47 cm, 52 mm. internal diameter with a turbulence inducing´venturi´ restriction at 2/3s.

Not sure how effective it wil be on a, for a bike, low tune slow revving engine. Still 140 hp after all.
It was quite loud on an 800 4-cil with 125 hp.

How much does the cat. do in this respect?


p.s. found a direct with/without cat comparison;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MY_IqMwrs0

I´d say it reduced the level with about half and takes the sharp rasp off. The restriction it constitutes, indicates much the same. Stands to reason as it basically is a ´filter´.

I am véry curious about it.
It should make for a neat deep sound; fingers crossed it is moot enough to pass periodic inspection.

While at the subject of the exhaust and following the previous cooling theme; what would taking out the black heat shield do?
Seems that it would result in a lót more ventilation of the engine compartment.
Cannot see an obvious problem when running with the OEM muffler heay sink. Do I miss something?

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 25, 2019, 17:49
Also on the list are two:


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/q4AAAOSw2gxYnz1d/s-l1600.jpg)


Thanks to Lee´s tube,  now know to get the driver one out with a torx through two holes  :-[
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on January 25, 2019, 18:38
Quote from: Petrus on January 24, 2019, 20:27
Quote from: shnazzle on January 24, 2019, 19:46
Look at the great big slot in the bumper though to compensate :)

If only the cubby would not sit behind it  ;)

The cubby out and a slot in the bonnet would be a cooler option. Literally.

Anyone have a lightweight bonnet with a slot for cheap?

@Topdownman (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=18717) cut two holes in his bonnet and fitted louvre panels from another marque. (His engine does need plenty of cooling as he has 1.5 times the regular number of cylinders)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on January 25, 2019, 19:50
That rx8 sounds pretty lovely :)
I actually prefer it with cat haha
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 25, 2019, 20:32
Quote from: shnazzle on January 25, 2019, 19:50
That rx8 sounds pretty lovely :)
I actually prefer it with cat haha

So do I and a lót too!

Btw. removing the front surround, spare bucket & lid, sun visors and two airbags results in surprising lightness added. Deducting the weight of the strut brace it stíll is >10 kg.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 26, 2019, 16:26
Found another 1100 gramms of lightness.

All in all over 38 kilos now.
4 + 3 + 0.5 plus the exhaust to go.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 27, 2019, 11:30
Oh mán what fun.
Thoroughly relaxed, the most wonderful sunny weather and a tight car on uphill drive into the mountains with no traffic worth that name. The vauum valve thing gave no unexpected bugs and the tighter front inspires confidence.
Só looking forward to the door spacers!!


Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on January 27, 2019, 11:33
He's got the bug ladies and gentlemen...
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 27, 2019, 11:55
Quote from: shnazzle on January 27, 2019, 11:33
He's got the bug ladies and gentlemen...

Never not had it  :D
regardless of the car.
Why do think I got fined for drifting in a 2K kilos coach-on-chassis 4x4?! ;D

The gfs´s responses to de-airbagging are wonderfully different btw.
Life is wonderful; all those different facets!!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 27, 2019, 14:59
(https://myalbum.com/photo/seAg7WA48rNU/1k0.jpg)

...and anóther kilo bites the dust  :)

Another valued little thing; bring on the biggies  :-)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 28, 2019, 18:16
And Steward agaín made short work of sending the covers for the sunvisor hole.
This time in a Jiffy-bag.
5 mins. later they moved from the bag into the frame!

Ordered a panel with Volt meter and USB ports to fit in the ugly hole where th ashtray assy sat.
Too ugly to wait for that though so spraying the mounting stuts matt black.

Cannot get the Oz rims here  :'(

I will have a look whether I can source something light in Spain.
I would prefer stock size; that is the lightest combo.
Also a bit more air is easier on whichever rim is fitted.
The advantage of larger diameter is a lower = stiffer sidewall = more direct steering. Hardly something the MR2 lacks and the price is comfort and weight.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 28, 2019, 22:44
By Jove... I should nót have looked at JDM leightweigh wheels  :P
You can shed 4 kilos per rim! But the cost is keeping up with that in nót saving  (:< >:)

Still... just imagine the exact same set up but with 4 kilo less in the wheel; UUUFFFF!!!

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on January 28, 2019, 22:49
Had a look at König or Enkei? :)

Enkei RPF1... I love them so much. Just not enough to slap down 900gbp vs the Team Dynamics 1.2 I ended up going for.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 28, 2019, 23:47
Quote from: shnazzle on January 28, 2019, 22:49
Had a look at König or Enkei? :)


Yes, but am a worse sinner still  :-[
Under 10 lbs....

Even heard of Racing Hart CP-035? In 6.5 x 15 we are talking 8.6 lbs.  :o

Those are no way rugged enough for the potholes of the public road but mán what cool!!

Found a streetable set under 10 lbs. unfortunately making the account lighter still so, nope  :'(

It is just that I am a genuine weight weenie and wheels are with a distance thé singlemost counting part you can save weight on.
Your valued Enkei claim that 1 kilo on a wheel equals 20 on the car and they do have a scientifically founded point.
Imagine 8,0 lbs off a wheel x 4 x 20.... hmmm, maybe it ís worth that sucking sound on the bank account.
Looking at it thát way it is only a few €s per kilo  ;)
Nah, it is just a road car  ;D

Oh btw. dó bear in mind that:
- a wider rim has a linear increment in weight
- larger diameter increments with the square

Example:
Volk TE-37   15x6.5   8.8  lbs.
Volk TE-37 15X7   9.15
Volk TE-37   16X7           11.2
Volk TE-37   17X7.5   15
The 17x7.5 weighs almost twíce the 15x6.5!!!


Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on January 29, 2019, 00:47
Yup.
My front 1.2s are actually the same weight as my stock fronts were. The rears are a kilo lighter each
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 29, 2019, 10:23
Quote from: shnazzle on January 29, 2019, 00:47
Yup.
My front 1.2s are actually the same weight as my stock fronts were. The rears are a kilo lighter each

Surprisingly dissappointing no?!
Surprising too the huge differences between models/manufacturers.
I am rather a huge fan of magnesium; over a third lighter than aluminium, but quality mags are rare as hens teeth and as expensive as fairy dust.
Tecnomagnesio made very good ones but under current ownership (since 2002 or so) remake the classics mainly in aluminium without any distinguishing markings. You nééd to check with vinigar.
For the Lotus Elise/Exige/340R there are very cool, light and strong rims to be found, even mags. Off sets are tricky.

Looking at Rota slipstream new or a set of trick used ones but they must be líght or I am not spending the dough.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 29, 2019, 16:46
About weights of the various wheels here a just baout exhaustive list:

https://japan-wheels.ru/static/japan-wheel-weight.xls

Quite informative!

As we know the pre FL wheels are quite light with 6.6 and 6.8 kilos, making 26.8 kilos.

Unfortunately no 6.0 or 6.5 from the major manufacturers anymore, so there is about half a kilo potential lost already.
Enkei RPF1 in 15 x 7 are 4.4 kilos at 1100€ a set = 17.6 kg. = 9.2 kg. lighter at 119.5€ per kilo.
Rota Slipstream 15 x 7 are 5.8 kilos at 590€ = 21 kg. = 5.8 kg. won at 101.7 €/kg.
Tecnomagnesio mags. in 15 x 6.5 are 4.9 at ?????? íf you can find a nice set.




Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 29, 2019, 21:35
Found an interesting comparative test concerning wheel weight.
Ar & Driver did a series of acceleration runs with aMustang GT350R; one set with standard alloy wheel, the other with lightweight wheels.
Same car, same everything; wheels:

Front & Rear 61/61 lbs. vs 46/47 totalling a reduction of 31 lbs.

The car weighs 3950 lbs.

The accelleration was on average 8.3% faster.

To achieve that by weight reduction on the car this 8.3% equals 328 lbs.  :o

So 31 lbs off the wheels compares to 328 off the car = 1 : 10.58

Not the 20% Enkei mentions but still a lót and only acceleration.

Now let´s stick with 10  : 1 as that is a quick and dirty.

One kilo off per wheel = 1 x 4 x 10 = 40 kilo off the car  :P

Oh my, I want the Enkeis; 92 kilos off the car at 11.95 €/kg.

Let me have some more fun with the numbers:

The first 58 kilos can come at 10.17 €/kg and the next 34 kilos cost 15 €/kg.

;)

Oh and thé lightest option are Racing Hart CP-035R at 3.6 and 3.9 kg. = saving 11.8 kg. = 118 kilo on the car.
Unfortunately made from unobtanium.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on January 29, 2019, 22:14
Oooh so I shaved over 20kg off the back? :) nice
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: jonbill on January 29, 2019, 22:19
It would be nice to see some maths to support that surprising assertion.
This guy comes to a different conclusion:

http://www.nsxprime.com/forum/showthread.php/98186-Heavy-versus-Light-wheels-Acceleration-Tests-and-their-results

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 30, 2019, 00:12
Quote from: jonbill on January 29, 2019, 22:19
It would be nice to see some maths to support that surprising assertion.
I just gave you emperical proof.

As to the math, that has more aspects than inertia. Which he has incomplete btw as the kinetic energy which is the basis of inertia is half the mass times the square of the speed with the speed of the tire surface being twice the vehicle speed. So the 1.5 - 1.8 of the wheel mass is about right. now the square of that please.
Also that is the rótating inertia which by traction is transferred to the car. Btw. ever seen a rally car accelerate on gravel? That is inertia of the gravel ´pushing´the car forrward. The lighter the wheel, the easier/faster it propels that grave. Fun!!!


When I did the math some year ago I cam at a factor 8 roughly, which is confirmed by the test published in Car & Driver.

The thing Í would like to know is how Enkei comes up with a factor 20 in their published print!!

Anyway, we can agree that wheel weight has a lót more to add (or not) in several aspects than the weight of the car, because it is unsspung ánd going round at twice the speed. And I am not mentionng the gyroscopic effect yet;  mán what a difference that makes on a bicycle even!!

That 2 c.q. 20 kilo Shnazzle áre real; the 2 on the scales, the 20 in kinetic effects, i.e. on the stopwatch/g-meter. It is just not thát much so it will change the car. Hence me taking my time and only pounce if I can put the money where the weight makes a noticeable difference.
Giving it a month to find something giving more kilos at a lower kilo price and if nothing, will go for the Rota Slipstream.
By that time I hope to have the carbon muffler tried and tested.

Today used the spraycan matt black on sme details and the door sill lip under the car. Is a lót less visible now.
Was huge fun as I had the four Frenchies ´helping´....

Now, I knów I am not going to score the Racing Harts but will for sure dream about shedding another virtual 118 kilos off the car. Well between dreaming of the c-companies :-*
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 30, 2019, 13:17
Quote from: jonbill on January 29, 2019, 22:19
It would be nice to see some maths to support that surprising assertion.
This guy comes to a different conclusion:

http://www.nsxprime.com/forum/showthread.php/98186-Heavy-versus-Light-wheels-Acceleration-Tests-and-their-results

Btw; thanks for that link.
I even recognised that very road!!!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 30, 2019, 15:26
´Found´ another nice set; a set of Rays.
Ofcourse in the UK again which complicates shipment.
Finger crossed the seller will ship....
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 31, 2019, 09:06
Change of weather here and pain kept me awake; hip needs new bushing. Ideal to do some research.

First looked at the weight of modern tyres.
Rather héavy. Then I understood that modern hoops are wíííde and also larger diameter rims add to it as the lightest part of the tyre is the sidewall.
Anyway:
On average a 185/55 R15 is under 9 kilos
a 205/50 about a kilo more.
There is nothing much to be gained/lost there.

Then looked into alloy wheels, how they are made; forged, spun, cast. Nothing changed but the youtubes are nevertheless highly informative.
Was fascinated by Rays Engineering Volk brand. Enkei was/is the bench mark and in the nineties Rays set themselves apart by stepping one up in quality.
Their TE37 set a new standard. The ´37´ referring to the 3.7 kilos the 15" x 6.5 weighed. Some 25 years later it stíll is the top.
For lighter cars they added a lighter still wheel; the CE28 and yes, 2.8 kilos for the 14 x 5  :o

Back to reality; go to go outside again, heavyweight sucking mud plugging to look after the animals  :(

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 31, 2019, 23:23
recieved word that parts for the DIY exhaust have arrived where I am not. Good news but next week thus.
Several other mod goodies are supposed to arrive next week too.
Oh and negotiating a set of trick wheels. Again one I hope to sort next week.
Worse than ´mañana´  :P

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 2, 2019, 16:12
Ok, the muffler fits but....



(https://myalbum.com/photo/f18Bs4In1RO6/1k0.jpg)




the design need some more attention.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on February 2, 2019, 16:14
Quote from: Petrus on February  2, 2019, 16:12
Ok, the muffler fits but....



(https://myalbum.com/photo/f18Bs4In1RO6/1k0.jpg)




the design need some more attention.
Hahaha! I like it! Function over form :)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 2, 2019, 21:28
Found a neat animated illustration

(https://tunerhouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/strut-bar-corner-before.gif)

(https://tunerhouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/strut-bar-corner-after.gif)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 6, 2019, 18:47
Door spacers mounted, explosives removed from dash.

Tacking the bushings into place is a doddle. They are a sliding fit; just the slightest extra push needed. If they settle I may stick in an extra layer of tape but for the moment it is perfect: I don´t want it too tight because I need to explain thréé birds not to start SLÁMMING the door.

Only a short drive around the village; cobblestones, climb up to Molinillos and a vuelta over the test track.
Like with the strut brace, agaín a bit ´harsher´ on the cobblestones. No movement in the doors and more rattle of the luggage compartment doors behind the seats. So without any doubt a tighter tub.
For the rest it keeps yet better still the inside; better still on the line you intend. When sliding the wubbahs, it is easier to keep pointing the way you want.
I don´t want to overanalyse on the base of a vvery short run but the response to the steering input is confidence inspriring.
Definitely to the power of definite worth the peanuts.

Not so confidence inspiring is the large hole in the dash where the trim cover is absent. I have not worked out how to seperate it from the explosive canister  :-\

Anyway, again >4 kg. of lightness added.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 6, 2019, 20:27


(https://myalbum.com/photo/asdwbzns4drz/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/CCp4N1j95ny4/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 7, 2019, 09:51
The cover is back in the dash. The connection was less fine engineering than I expected  :P

Warning light still on and the horn still ... not.

So that is from one thing pending; removing the explosive devices, to two  :o

Ah well, the car drives and I am going down to the coast for an afternoon/evening/night with friends  :D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 7, 2019, 10:32
A bit chilly but bright blue so parked Belle in the sun to fold the hood down when I go.
Leaving a bit earlier because of the above: Needs be enjoyed to the full and going mounting route. Immediately over the Pedrizas pass the exit towards Villanueva de Gauche and from there it is all winding down the southern slopes to Malaga. Looking forward to experience the two 360 degree corners (past the Fuente de la Reina just above Málaga) as she is now.
Will take more than double the time but is obviously not the same order of enjoyment than the highway.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 7, 2019, 17:28
What fun!
Drifting through hairpins steep down is usually rather tricky as bothe braking and lifting makes matter wórse if you overcook it.
Ok, still tricky but with a feeling of control because of increased direct feel/feedback.


(https://myalbum.com/photo/BMfWzATlU9oo/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/wfChNNGIpxlp/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/Uxj8QbpRA3os/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 8, 2019, 14:24
and for breakfast to the beach:


(https://myalbum.com/photo/SppbWxue7v2t/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/5iQajU9pUbex/1k0.jpg)


Back into the mountains was even more fun than the trip down. Down is way more tricky ánd I was gettong accustomed to the feel.
Back in the mountains, through the valley thréw it through the corner, passing several cars till I closed up to a Seat Cupra. Took the bloke two corners before he got the spirit; húge fun! Impressive accelleration btw.
Back in the village took a few of the star of today:


(https://myalbum.com/photo/ClCDomFwdLfC/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/QBXQQ7YgGYY7/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 8, 2019, 16:26
Back at the farm checked the door spacers/bushings. The tape compressed most of it thinness so took the blocks off and added another layer to space the space tighter still. The doors now need a bit of a sprited closing but as I now know the tape will settle quite a bit, no worries there.

Back to the effect on the handling.
Spacing them out shows I am rather pleased with the improvent.
Having slid the thing about hárd through uncountable mountain roads my conclusion sofar is:
The improved integrity of the tub means that suspension is now by the suspension and the tyre, not the flex in the tub.
Since I have not méasure anything I cannot say anything about the actual roadholding, about the corner speeds.
What I díd notice is that now the load is spread better over the foúr wheels/tyres. How much no idea, did not measure.
The control is another matter. Thát is in a different league.
The feedbacl is more direct because you now no feel the chassis moving; it is all the contact patch.
As such you feel the movement éarlier and also there is less euhhhhmmmm, únflex in the chassis when the tyre starts moving.
To understand that it is important to understand that a sliding tyre has léss friction than one that is about to, max deforming.
Past the slide point, the load on the chassis thus gets lower rather rapidly and that gives a reaction.
In etrema it is like the pogo response of a high 4x4 when that breaks out, then grips and spits you out to the other side because you in a reflex overcorrected for the refound grip.
On the MR it is less so but still there.
With the tub flexing less, there is less of that ánd the feel of the tyres is no longer masked by the flex in the tub.
Since you feel more, you can rspond earlier, more measured and drive way closer to  both sides of the limit with an amplitude you can control.
That latter bit is imo the real benefit: With less flex in the chassis, the amplitude of feel of nearing the limit and going over it is way smaller and thus the chance of being too far over is reduced.

Near the farm there is a corner I take umpteen times daily and through which it is too easy to make ány car slide. With the MR it was the corner that made the resident female observe I nééded better wubbahs.
The angle between noticing it going, catching it etc. had a certain amplitude.
The amplitude of catch is not all that far from the beyond catching angle.
Nów that amplitude in not in the same order of tail out. That enlarges the saftey margin, which can also be seen as the play ground, consíderably.
To stay in MR2 jargon; it takes a chunk out of the snap of the snap oversteer.
Do use the slogan Dev; Takes the snap out of snap oversteer!  ;)

I am still not completely happy with the feel in the front. Also the front wubbah gets hotter than the rear. I already put a bit more air in so not going more thataway. Since the outside gets more of the brunt, I will order camber bolts.



Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on February 8, 2019, 16:39
Couldn't have written it better if I tried :)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 8, 2019, 16:57
Quote from: shnazzle on February  8, 2019, 16:39
Couldn't have written it better if I tried :)

Thanks.

Could do a write up about the horticultural and romantic angles to the outing too  :P
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on February 8, 2019, 16:58
Quote from: Petrus on February  8, 2019, 16:57
Quote from: shnazzle on February  8, 2019, 16:39
Couldn't have written it better if I tried :)

Thanks.

Could do a write up about the horticultural and romantic angles to the outing too  [emoji14]
Nah you're alright mate ;) I prefer driving things
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 8, 2019, 22:49
Right; 3.3 Ohm resistors, camber bolts and magnetic camber indicator underway.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 9, 2019, 20:55
Ah well, one has the right to dream  ;)


(https://cdn.snsimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/parts/000/009/573/440/9573440/p1.jpg?ct=f16108648c75)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 11, 2019, 14:04
Had 20 minutes so took the power steering pump off.
Not run the car yet.
Getting rather empty up front  :o


(https://myalbum.com/photo/yczbL0kr8wz7/1k0.jpg)


Not weighing the pump yet as I may very well put it back pronto. No good tempting the gods of lightness.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on February 11, 2019, 14:48
Is the rack now just venting to air? Guessing so or otherwise you'll be fighting against the rack
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 11, 2019, 15:06
I have connected the two lines so there is a loop.
So yes, I am pumping the fluid from one side to the other.
This is the only way I can simply undo it.

Did a small run and while on the move it is ok but it sure needs getting used to. Still on the fence.

Weighed the dry pump:

(https://myalbum.com/photo/cszqKbocug3r/1k0.jpg)


A second quick fix step would be to loop together the two lines from the rack to the steering house and plug the two threaded holes.
Since the displaced volume on the one side in the rack equals the other, there is no need for a reservoir/vent.

The ónly way to avoid the pumping action; to make it a real manual rack, is to get the piston out of the rack. Only if I get a good spare rack cheaply.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 11, 2019, 18:40
Had several errants to run and collect my son from climbing. Each time added my test round and some laps on the ´circuit´:
The first time I was ... unsettled.
Second time thought the car sluggish.
Third time not so much.
Fourth I clipped a few inside corners.
Next I got more and more confidence.

It is a húge improvement and I mean HUGE.
Ok, the steering is rather heavy. Not just below 5 km/h but also through tight corners; all resistance from the road is now directly felt in the steering wheel. Gone is that overly light ´remote control´ which also causes the sensation of instabilty in a straight line.
The electric ps is not just assisting you movng the steering wheel; the other way around it in the same level insulates/dampens the road forces.
On the test circuit the limits through the various corners was a balance between understeer and snap lurking oversteer. The very light steering gave little feedback and over-/understeer was at least as much noticed in the behaviour of the car as in the steering wheel.
NOT ANYMORE! I can feel what is happening and as such have só much more confidence, sliding the thing over four wheels.

Because of the low speed thus max assitence vs non, the cobblestones illustrated the difference simpler: Hands off the wheel, the cobblestones move it 10 - 15 degrees left, right. Before very little to nothing of the sort.

Ok, the car now feels like it weighs say a 1000 kilos whereas before it felt like a go-kart, so that sééms a bad thing. Point is that the car actually weights 1000 kilos and gives the feedback 1 on 1; linear to speed; equivalent to forces on the tyres.
I like it A LOT now.

Had a closer look at the plumbing and it looks like one of the rack to housing can loop the two sides of the rack together. Two threaded plugs in the housing and presto.
If/when I get round to the muffler the car will be out of order anyway so can sort the plumbing.
First now the P/S fault light. Should be simple but not when you are in a hurry.

p.s. 48 kilos of lightness added now.



Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on February 11, 2019, 19:15
That's a fair bit of weight saving.
As a daily I think I'll keep my PS but I can totally see the merit.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 11, 2019, 19:48
Quote from: shnazzle on February 11, 2019, 19:15

As a daily I think I'll keep my PS but I can totally see the merit.

Takes 15 minutes to take it off, 15 to put it back.
I´d say try it for a weekend trip. Worst case the pump will have fresh fluid to flush around and a cool experience.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on February 11, 2019, 20:00
So all you did was connect the input and return line basically? But removing fluid
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 11, 2019, 20:37
Quote from: shnazzle on February 11, 2019, 20:00
So all you did was connect the input and return line basically? But removing fluid

Yes, just taking the pump out of the circuit. Nothing more.
As I write, that is JUST q&d to test it.
Perfectly ok to leave it like that but it has noticeable pumping losses as you need to pump thróugh the steering house.

Connecting both sides of the rack will do away with most resistance (as the one side will suck as much as the other pushes) the flow loss though the 15 cm. pipe is all.


Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 13, 2019, 15:28
Aye and there is Thursday gone too.
The pink & lavender vinyl set for mountain love´s ´new´car.
She has already messaged that she is collecting them first thing tomorow so; can I make time to apply them before noon?  :o
Seeing she has reserved for a Valantine´s diner/night I will do my utmost  ;D






Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 14, 2019, 15:45
Vinyl applied and gf happy bunny.

Found some time to take the instrument cluster out of my frog and put a small patch of black tape on the power steering fault indicator.  Did not want damage the needles so tacked it on the face. Visible when you know but OK enough. I hope.

Nope, I don´t like it. Will take it apart again and split it more. The tape needs to be at the rear side.
No time today though.

Ah, what the h...; now I know how it fits together; 10 minutes and tape is on the inside; no PS light!!

That leaves the airbag light and the horn to sort.

Also no-longer-power-steering plumbing.
Next week when we tackle the exhaust.
Looking forward to both!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 15, 2019, 11:52
I just hád to fit it:


(https://myalbum.com/photo/v03rSBj5oyMC/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/yQj4UduV3WP6/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 16, 2019, 11:09
Remember my quest for a smaller number plate up front?
The central office at Madrid pointed me to the provincial office.
The provincial office has pointed me to the local periodic inspection centre.
Now those never ever take decisions of this nature as they are rule enforcers, not makers.
So that means printing out all of the paper trail from the instruction leter and my request to them being the ones delegated to decide.

The snag is that there is no choice option for such an appointment meaning I will have to knock on the door and ask to talk with the manager. Tricky as that puts them on the defense automatically. I am practising my most disarming smile and putting the best ones in a box to take along.

Íf that pans out positive, I will spring the question concerning the brake calipers.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 16, 2019, 22:15
Quote from: shnazzle on January 28, 2019, 22:49
Had a look at König or Enkei? :)

Enkei RPF1... I love them so much.

Yes they dó look rather good:



(http://autotk.com/photos/project/596/3912/origin.jpg)

and only 4,4 kg.... :)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 18, 2019, 19:36
Things are coming together, not.
Sofar things came apart.
So from a lardy OEM exhaust I am currently not exhausted. A lót lighter but not quite ready yet.
I need the welding apparatus to merry marry the car bits to the motobike bit ánd supporting hangers.

Same thing the wheels; my wishes are pushing reality and budget apart: Decided that the Rotas may be the more economic weight loss but I want to loose more and even the more costly option (which I got down 5€/kg.) is still cheaper per kilo than lightweight calipers.
10 days to go before I decide.

I have suggested taking the passenger seat out but the gf says she is nót sitting on a garden chair cushion so that is a no go.

For the rest the parts man is looking for the plugs in the steering housing, the airbag light is still on and the horn still not.

Mañana....

The Voltmeter and USB port are cool though. Does not do anything towards a better drive but still cool. I think I want a different shift knob.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: litr0m on February 19, 2019, 06:51
@Petrus (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=25573) Wich Wheelsize did you Chose for the enkei's with wich tyre Options?

Regards
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 19, 2019, 08:57
Quote from: litr0m on February 19, 2019, 06:51
@Petrus (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=25573) Wich Wheelsize did you Chose for the enkei's with wich tyre Options?

Regards

I do not háve them yet!
I have a price negotiated but have given fate till the end of the month to make a set of Volks or Harts appear  :)

I would líke 15 x 6.5 but those are not available so I will be going for 15x7 ET35 front and rear. FL would be 16x7 rear.
Tires 195/50 and 205/50.
It will increase the scrub radius at the front but only 15 mm and it cannot be avoided.

Camber bolt are on their way as that I want to sort anyway.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: litr0m on February 19, 2019, 10:16
So good luck with your negotiation and thank you for the reply :D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 19, 2019, 11:58
Meanwhile.....

(https://myalbum.com/photo/BH6vZVghcHaD/1k0.jpg)

..and the weight is staying under 3.5 kilos  :o

The noise... well keeping fingers crossed while mounting stuff is a bit tricky but you get the idea.
Worst case I will need to change back to OEM before the periodic inspection.

It looks áwfully cool btw and it´s a shame that it needs be covered up by the cat from below and heat shields on all other sides.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 19, 2019, 13:04
Not finished quite yet and the no-longer-power-steering needs sorting before I can drive but without load it sounds like it sounds not too loud. Pffffff.
Quite sporty though, a bit raspy.
I am not handy with modern stuff and will ask my son if we can post a video.

Wow, cautiously optimistic but that would be just the ticket; not too loud better sounding and a júst over 10 kilo weight shave.

Right, time to cut the diaper because I want it looking as OEM as possible.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on February 19, 2019, 13:12
I'm a bit concerned about the other parts, in the background/ on the floor, that you may have removed in your search for lightness  ;)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 19, 2019, 13:26
Quote from: Joesson on February 19, 2019, 13:12
I'm a bit concerned about the other parts, in the background/ on the floor, that you may have removed in your search for lightness  ;)


Well, yes, but I will have to put the gearbox and wheels back on  :P

The OEM to DIY muffler swap has reduced a bit more than anticipated so I am on 55 kilos less now.
Not much to be gained anymore. Wheels and that is it. Lighter calipers... cannot see it being approved. Lightweight bonnet, engine cover? Not realistic either. So, it will now have to come off me  ???

Íf I get lighter wheels, I will put the car on the weighbridge accross the road.
If not.... as well  :)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 21, 2019, 10:40
Let the truth be told; you may not séé it, but it is definitely audible. On the outside it is not drawing the attention and and impressively low, on the inside however .... to be honest too loud to my taste but then I have not become accustomed to it.
I will have to measure the decibels but I fear that I need to change back to the OEM to pass periodic inspection.
It máy be below the 95 dB but it is definitely above the 2 dB margin from specs.



(https://myalbum.com/photo/WAN0EkoYCIlQ/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/PZif22oPMtJG/1k0.jpg)


The no-longer-power-assisted steering has markedly improved with the loop on the rack itself. Am quite pleased with how it steers and how it looks now.


(https://myalbum.com/photo/ld8dYepbhVyD/1k0.jpg)


I canot say that I nótice the weight loss from behind/above the rear wheels as the increased sound level (read; noise!) is distracting me ánd the feel in steering has changed anyway.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on February 21, 2019, 14:48
The above photo photo shows there to be little if any rust on the anti roll bar and front cross member, both parts being prone to rust in the UK. Testament to the dry weather your car has  suffered!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 21, 2019, 17:43
Quote from: Joesson on February 21, 2019, 14:48
The above photo photo shows there to be little if any rust on the anti roll bar and front cross member, both parts being prone to rust in the UK. Testament to the dry weather your car has  suffered!

Ok, to say the car has nó oxidation is calling the gods out over that but there is very, véry little.

Took it out for a longer spin.
One issue is that there is fluid leaking from one of the red plugs in the steering box.
The other is that the decibel meter app I downloaded it wáy off, so no useful méasured data. In perspective the wind noise with the hood closed is on the level of the exhaust at around 100 km/h and above that the wind wins.

The way the car drives is very much improved. The steering is more linear as I am no longer pumping fluid through the housing.
The exhaust, wow, thát I had not expected.
When I swapped the OEM precat manifold for a decat manifold I noticed nóthing in this department and barely anything in the noise. If you did not know you would not hear it.
Nów it is like literally having taken a plug from the exhaust. The car revs markedly more freely. Especially at the higher revs it feels suprisingly ´unthrottled´.
Anyone recognise this?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on February 21, 2019, 17:47
What did you put on? Having just fitted an aftermarket manifold I can definitely agree with the "wow".
It opened up the tap a fair bit more.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 21, 2019, 18:56
Quote from: shnazzle on February 21, 2019, 17:47
What did you put on? Having just fitted an aftermarket manifold I can definitely agree with the "wow".
It opened up the tap a fair bit more.

Earlier I put a decat manifold on; see pictures earlier.
Did not feel much of a difference if anything at all. Thought it was just the slight increase in interior sound at wider throttle opening.

Now I swapped the OEM muffler for a DIY straight through absorbtion damper from a superbike. See pictures.
I used the in and out pipe stubs from an OEM pot.
There is zero obstruction in the pot; just 50 cm. of absorbtion damping.

Mán does it now feel different.
Oh and another observation: The exhaust pipe blows a lot stronger and it is coming out fast and the lack of back pressure is blowing a lot of crap built up over the years out.


Been faffing with the 3.3 Ohm resistors and the airbag light is still on. Tomorrow will check if the resistors are pushed in correctly and take the ECU-B fuse out, also AM2 to make sure.

Worked out the horn issue. The airbag housing has the ground contacts. Next a simple solution.

First the steering fluid leak though.

Will try do decibel measuring again too.

Bottom line is seems that with every step ahead I go one or two báckwards.
That is not even mentioning the camber bolts...
...or dropping into the inspection station centre about the registration plate.

p.s. read on Spyderchat about several dyno readings, all claiming power gains which I cannot believe.  Best not speculate; I am content with the engine revving a lót more freely.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: idnan on February 22, 2019, 17:20
Would love to see a pic of your lightweight designed exhaust Petrus
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 22, 2019, 17:39
Quote from: idnan on February 22, 2019, 17:20
Would love to see a pic of your lightweight designed exhaust Petrus

The welding in progress, the engine bay and from the rear are what I have.
Not measured it today; it is pretty loud though and it remains to be seen if the outer tube is heat resitant enough.

Today sorted the horn and tightened the plugs in the steering house with a bit of liquid gasket.

The airbag light is still beating me. Have the 3.3 Ohm resistors in, have the battery disconnected for half an hour but... stays on. Maybe the resistor pins are not long enough? They don´t go in firmly. Do I need to cut the yellow plug a bit back or ???
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 23, 2019, 10:49
Oh btw, the hospital visit yesterday was depressing.
Also visited a lady friend and a female acquaintance of the gf.
The former is going downhill slowly with no chance on recovery and the second is dying. Both younger than me.
The motorbike bloke is in bád shape. Basically his leg is shattered.
Good thing I have become a bit more boring, ....ooops responsible, but CARPE DIEM!!!

The wife of the bloke is like a frightened rabbit on a good day and now as shattered as his leg, laying awake scared most of the night in their lonely farm house. Can´t be helped though as even if we would offer she comes sleep at our farm the local Brit community they are part of wil make that into something worse for her than a few sleepless nights.

Also the above mentiong ´gf´ observed the same about living life and said ´what the heck if you want the wheels; it´s your money and having fun with it!´.
So looking at wheels again; 5 days to till the deadline I gave myself. The UK seller of the Volks is keepin stumm so am writing that one off; an unwilling seller is a loss.
Looks like RPF1´s will happen, still not liking the silver finish. Ah well, a luxury ´problem´. The airbag light though.... (:< >:)


Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 23, 2019, 11:14
Since Enkei publishes that 1 kilo at the wheel is worth 20 on the car, I sent them the question how they arrive at that ratio  :)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on February 23, 2019, 11:31
Not sure whether to be pleased about the above posts or not... Sounds rather bad and I wish the best for them all. But then the positive... RPF1s are a go... Which is pretty sweet
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 23, 2019, 11:47
Quote from: shnazzle on February 23, 2019, 11:31
Not sure whether to be pleased about the above posts or not... Sounds rather bad and I wish the best for them all. But then the positive... RPF1s are a go... Which is pretty sweet

It is real life; every coin has it´s own inverse other side and that applies to good and bad alike.

Am going again Monday; it is a small efort and there are no second chances on things like that; when they are gone they are gone. Unlike golden opportunities on ebay or wherever.

I will ask the bike guy´s wife how far he is in the magazine-book a I have more and would be happy to bring him the next.
It is brainless ´reading´ you do not need a longt attention span for. Ideal for hospital. I know, been there, done that, read them several times  ::)



Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 1, 2019, 19:03
Today drove my son to Alameda for a science project.
Lovely drive through the deep andalucian interior; áncient olive country.
The country where legends have roots. One of the most fanmous it that of the bandolero Jose Maria Hinojosa Cobacho a.k.a. El Tempranillo.
His legend spans from 1820 till 1833.
There is sh@tload of tourist stuff around the bloke.
By 1833 he had turned sides and was killed in an ambush by part of his old band.
The site of this is an old cortijo in Alameda off the main road and unknown to tourism.
As such it is as a century ago. Not even a paved path to it!

So dropped off my son and went look for the old farm.
Ah, there it is!

(https://myalbum.com/photo/3NRYdC1UoQHX/1k0.jpg)

It lies in an olive grove some 100 meters off a local road with a 2 meter wide track going past it.
The track was closed of but not padlocked so with a bit of creativity I gained access and carefully manouvred the car to the farm.

(https://myalbum.com/photo/8i419oTF2dj8/1k0.jpg)

On the way back we did record the sound accellerating up a high(literally)way. It should be here as an attchement.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 2, 2019, 10:20
Right, some more time to write.
Am in the mountains on the farm. Well, in the village at the moment; sunny, going to be 25 degrees, flirted with the post office lady (package with stuff for the MR) and now behind my laptop with a coffee.
Up here because my son is working in the mountains: It is a bank holliday here so there are lóts of people and he is earning good money as a climbing instructor.
His mom is at the coast, in recluse in a hotel to prepare Brexit info for the Brit expat pensioners.
Málaga can´t come up because it is her weekend to look after dementing granny.
Life...

Ok, yesterday, MR.

I started the day with

(https://myalbum.com/photo/rJ8zgMqiSbbu/1k0.jpg)


Sent this ´Flintstone car´ photo to my loved ones with the caption; ´Ok, what to take out next?!´
The reactions were immediate and hilarious.

Next however was my son trying out the LED light set we bought for under the side bars of his mums car. The argument was the panel with USB ports I mounted.
Looks very, véry cool indeed. I may buy one too and have red glow under the car  :D

Left the car in the sun for the hood to soften and later in the afternoon we went top down to Alameda.
My son is determained NOT to like my car as he thinks it is too childish for me. Hence his nickname for it too.
Anyway, some 10 kms up the road there is a series of turns and a passage trhough tunnel ....  :-)
He sat with a smile form ear to ear. ´Yes´ he observed ´that ís cool.´

Further on we had to go through Humilladero to get to Alameda. From the provincial road turn left on a roundabout into Humilladero.
The terrace on the right of that street was filled with youngish people.
My son was late with the instruction so I had to go left racther sharp, on the pedal to oversteer in order to make it, drifting rather angled and loud.
Standing ovation from the terrace.

Alameda is all olive business. Several press coops ín town, the worn shiney tarmac coated with oily residu.
There was no way to keep the rear neatly following the front; hónest  ;D
The local youths again approving.

Dropped off my son and went tourist.
Picked him up at the agreed time and he was on the second!!
Three nerd friends behind him, gleaming at the car.
Son got it cool as a glacier. Narrow street so lots of sound and I had a bit of wheelspin because of the slippy surface; really.

Working our way out of the town had to round the square in front of town hall. Again no possibel way to avoid sliding; I really NEED a spoiler for more downforce  ;)

Once out of the village we recorded the sound.
Up on the highway I had to ease off to pass behind a car on the right lane but by that time we were doing 160 anyway so enough anyway.

Back at the farm he said that yes it is a fun and cool car. Not yet quite convinced about a wing ánd I need something different than the baseball cap.

Ok, time to get some work done now.



Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on March 2, 2019, 10:55
Tell you what... Your life sounds horrible.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Nvy on March 2, 2019, 10:58
^^ totally agree..
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: jvanzyl on March 2, 2019, 10:59
Sounds like a great day!

Sent from my Moto G (5) using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 2, 2019, 11:04
You lot heard the sound yet? :-\
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on March 2, 2019, 11:06
Quote from: Petrus on March  2, 2019, 11:04
You lot heard the sound yet? :-\
I have :) It sounds rather lovely one must say.
So, you took a bike exhaust and just welded it in in place of the stock box?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 2, 2019, 11:20
Quote from: shnazzle on March  2, 2019, 11:06
Quote from: Petrus on March  2, 2019, 11:04
You lot heard the sound yet? :-\
I have :) It sounds rather lovely one must say.
So, you took a bike exhaust and just welded it in in place of the stock box?

Thanks.

Yes. Simply welded it in.

As you can hear it is free revving now; that is wants to rev faster as the revs increase even though the load increases. I was surprised about the difference.

It sounds réally deep, but .... it ís rather loud; totally matching the looks now  ;D
Ah well, if I don´t press the loud pedal it is not obtrusive.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on March 2, 2019, 11:28
Any chance for some more details on that box? It looks to be about the same length as well! I've binned 3 stock boxes but now kind of wishing I kept one :)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 2, 2019, 11:53
Quote from: shnazzle on March  2, 2019, 11:28
Any chance for some more details on that box? It looks to be about the same length as well! I've binned 3 stock boxes but now kind of wishing I kept one :)

Not really.
As I wrote it is just an oridinairy straight though superbike damper.
The tube is 50 cm. long and the inner diameter matches the OEM tube.
You will find a suitable one at any bike breakers yard as the in/out are irrelevant. You cut those off anyway to weld the OEM stubs on.

Now mine is not real carbon and thus is probably not going to last. I think it will get to hot for the uprated plastic tube. We´ll see.
When looking for one, I suggest you go for an aluminium one. That is 1 kilo or so more but still close to 10 lighter and sounding waaaaaayyyy nicer!

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on March 2, 2019, 12:03
Quote from: Petrus on March  2, 2019, 11:53
Quote from: shnazzle on March  2, 2019, 11:28
Any chance for some more details on that box? It looks to be about the same length as well! I've binned 3 stock boxes but now kind of wishing I kept one :)

Not really.
As I wrote it is just an oridinairy straight though superbike damper.
The tube is 50 cm. long and the inner diameter matches the OEM tube.
You will find a suitable one at any bike breakers yard as the in/out are irrelevant. You cut those off anyway to weld the OEM stubs on.

Now mine is not real carbon and thus is probably not going to last. I think it will get to hot for the uprated plastic tube. We´ll see.
When looking for one, I suggest you go for an aluminium one. That is 1 kilo or so more but still close to 10 lighter and sounding waaaaaayyyy nicer!
That's all the info needed :) Thanks!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 8, 2019, 21:43
the forecast for today and five more is 100% sunny = top down!!!!
Had an extremely ejoyable drive back trough the mountain this afternoon.
Tomorrow going down to the coast with it over the véry interior route. Hope to take pictures.
The idea is to take the Málageña blonde on the classic car run through the Axarquia on Saturday.Hope to take pictures.

Hope to fit the camber bolts on Monday. Am curious how much minus they will actually be able to give in the top hole. No pictures neccessary.

Missing the Sunday plan? Well the initial plan was to take mountain love to a cheese festival further still up into the mountains but she has a severe ccccccóld. Better take her comfy ´tank´. Still fun though with the pink/purple flower decals and purple glow under the car  ;D No pictures.

Alas, no aero gadgets have arrived in the mountains yet  :( so no pictures of that either.

I assume you lot will be getting the picture?  :P

p.s. will be ordering a non-baseball cap under guidance of the Málageña as I bow to her taste.


The Friday plan executed:

Went down from Antequera early in the morning to Malageña over the most inland of the routes.
Down the Las Pedrizas about 50 kms of twisty mountain roads.

(https://myalbum.com/photo/OkVTOyNCKXaT/1k0.jpg)

(https://myalbum.com/photo/pXgKojxb63A1/1k0.jpg)

(https://myalbum.com/photo/LovXvy7lpeaq/1k0.jpg)

(https://myalbum.com/photo/qELhYUR5RluW/1k0.jpg)

She heard me downshift coming down the bridge entering the housing estate while under the douche.
As I parked in front she was already on the balcony waving, dressed as nature intended.
Another advantantage of the loud pipe  :D

For tomorrow an outing with the classic car club is planned.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 9, 2019, 20:36
The Saturday plan executed:
Woke up De Kikker early. Folded the hood down and we went west of Málaga to collect the paperwork put in her name for mountain love´s car.
Then back east to the gathering point of the car club.
A meager turn out but then the Marbella dweller don´t venture very far that early in the morning.Or so they say. The real point is that the late lunch is enjoyed/downed with rather a  lot of alcohol and they need to drive back  ::)
Nevertheless a nice variety of cars so I could explain a wide range of difference/aspects to Málaga love. Like a vintage Jag, a Ford one and two from India; an original 356 and a grp replica, The MGA right next to the 370Z so I could point out the hazard of the old steering colomn. Things like that.

The ride out is a bit of a bore. The charming company had laid down some basic rules:
1. NO OVERTAKING
2. NO STOPPING and then make up the distance-
3. NO ROUNDANDROUNDABOUT
I did get ´lost´ though at one point and hád to get back on the route via a shortcut  ;D

Anyway, we also left the group near the end of the route and went further east on the N340 as the bit from Nerja to La Herradura is breathtaking.
Lunch at the beach there and the scenic route back.

I have a proper sunburn in the face   :-[
We will rise up early and visit the Sunday morning flea market. With a bit of luck the hat stand is there.

(https://myalbum.com/photo/UnRUtDrxiaTZ/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/D29iYC7WHXqs/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/UP6MNlNd1yEB/1k0.jpg)

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 10, 2019, 14:45
Woke up De Kikker early and went to the Málaga flea market; it´s huge. Half a dozen stands with cap, hats and such. The gf found a light cotton, grey cap halfway between train machinist and baseball. Looks better than de baseball cap, airy and the whole of 4€

Drove back to the farm, enjoying some interior roads.
Mountain gf wanted to lunch in the village so she hopped in.
Had not yet heard the new exhaust so asked to go for a spin after lunch.
She thought it WAY too loud but could not stop laughing and asked to go past áll the terraces around the village!!!!
We even went up to the climbing park where our son is teaching.
What views  8)

(https://myalbum.com/photo/VKqbkDwM6qj7/1k0.jpg)

So, Sunday plan down too.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 11, 2019, 15:56
Fitted the camber bolts and had the cat alligned/set up.

Unsurprisingly the allignment was all over the place with the worst being 3.5 degrees of toe out on both wheels.
Rather a ´lot´ of difference between the two sides.

Is is now spot on, with -2.0 front camber and -2.2 rear.

Did the standard test run and... not much different, just lighter, easier, giving a confidence.

The weather is jaw dropping good. Good between brackets as it needs to rain and is also wáy to hot with too much difference between day and night. It was around 0 this morning with the windscreen of the car frozen and >25 just now.
Lóvely for living but a horror for nature and crops.

left the hood dawn as I will for sure go enjoy the new settings on the local touge route between Trabuco and Archidona.


Monday plan accomplished.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 11, 2019, 19:10
Back from ´touge´ hunting:
The most direct road from Trabuco to Archidona crosses a hill, then a valley, up a ridge, down into a gully and up a mountain. Apart from the valley bit where it goes underneath the highway, it is narrow and twisty, véry twisty and stéép. With a 34 chain blade and 32 sprocket you can get up the steepest bits with a good cadence íf you are a halfway decently trained cyclist.
Going both ways is vastly different and as such it is a highly emjoyable short drive that totally shows up a car.

Especially the Trabuco -> descend into the gully was nót enjoyable with the MR. Taking out the PAS made it a lot betetr as I you can feel the understeer about to start befor the nose actually slide to the scary side of the black stuff.
With the negative camber it feels planted.
The front is still crazy senstive to braking into a corner but that is a style issue I can change. Also it will be less so with better wubbahs giving more grip.

Bottom line is that the difference is notable.
Tis fun this!  :D

Two parcels at the p.o.
Probaly the shifter knob and the wubbah aero gadget. Can also be the hood vents.

So plan for the week is taking shape.
Have a lazy morning tomorrow with coffee on town square, fit the stuff (if that is what it is), go for a spin.

Print the red tape for the reduced sixe front plate wednesday and go by the periodic inspection centre. Also ask them about rules concerning large rear wings.

Thursday have another go at the airbag light.

Friday. Ah that is different. Have to drop my son of in Antequera at 04.00 so not much sense in going to bed. One has to sleep though so that will take me to late lunch.
Thén things go complicated. Luxury probem though; sunny till Sunday.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 12, 2019, 09:35
Ofcourse, the vents and something unrelated  :-X



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Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Nvy on March 12, 2019, 09:58
Quote from: Petrus on March 12, 2019, 09:35
Ofcourse, the vents and something unrelated  :-X



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Why dont you go with some mesh but not actual vents? That way you will not be bound to the measurements of these vents? Also are you planning to have any ducts from the rad to the hood?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 12, 2019, 10:43
Quote from: Nvy on March 12, 2019, 09:58

Why dont you go with some mesh but not actual vents? That way you will not be bound to the measurements of these vents? Also are you planning to have any ducts from the rad to the hood?

A very good suggestion.

Two draw backs.
For one the plastic inserts cover any ragged edge.
Secondly I cannot find the fine edge piping I want to finish a cut edge without a cover.

Ideally I would want the black wrap to fold around the edge but that is pipe dream.

The by fár easiest is cut and cover.

A side note is that mesh is a surprising air resistance.

No ducting planned. It is meant as a pressure relief, a vent, however small. A lighter hood with intergrated vents would be wáy better, but also wáy more costly. Even just shipping would blow the vents out of the bonnet  ;D

Nevertheless lóath to cut so any affordable alternative is wellcome. The fitted but pristine grp bonnet that blipped up on Facebook at a great price would have done just  :D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Nvy on March 12, 2019, 10:57
Quote from: Petrus on March 12, 2019, 10:43
Quote from: Nvy on March 12, 2019, 09:58

Why dont you go with some mesh but not actual vents? That way you will not be bound to the measurements of these vents? Also are you planning to have any ducts from the rad to the hood?

A very good suggestion.

Two draw backs.
For one the plastic inserts cover any ragged edge.
Secondly I cannot find the fine edge piping I want to finish a cut edge without a cover.

Ideally I would want the black wrap to fold around the edge but that is pipe dream.

The by fár easiest is cut and cover.

A side note is that mesh is a surprising air resistance.

No ducting planned. It is meant as a pressure relief, a vent, however small. A lighter hood with intergrated vents would be wáy better, but also wáy more costly. Even just shipping would blow the vents out of the bonnet  ;D

Nevertheless lóath to cut so any affordable alternative is wellcome. The fitted but pristine grp bonnet that blipped up on Facebook at a great price would have done just  :D

Ill try to copy the Elise hood when modifying the stock one but if i try to get a hold of the guys with fiberglass we can come up with an idea of custom ones. Reason for that is id like to have a slight angle like the elise ones are placed so that the generated down force is not disturbed much. Also ill have ducts to gain some down force from that and also some hood latches will be needed :D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 12, 2019, 11:06
Quote from: Nvy on March 12, 2019, 10:57
Ill try to copy the Elise hood when modifying the stock one but if i try to get a hold of the guys with fiberglass we can come up with an idea of custom ones. Reason for that is id like to have a slight angle like the elise ones are placed so that the generated down force is not disturbed much. Also ill have ducts to gain some down force from that and also some hood latches will be needed :D

I am smitten with the lines of the standard hood. I simply lóve it.
So does the Málaga nurse. She would be fúming if I ruin that. Sunday, when parked at the Classic car thing, she wantyed to see the underhood support structure and was adamant that I should opt for the apertures higher up so as not to ruin de elegant front lines.
I will admit that this, she; her opinion in this, weighs rather heavy  :-[

Not cutting the holes just yet but see no real feasable alternative to this rather simple job I can do myself.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Nvy on March 12, 2019, 11:14
Quote from: Petrus on March 12, 2019, 11:06
Quote from: Nvy on March 12, 2019, 10:57
Ill try to copy the Elise hood when modifying the stock one but if i try to get a hold of the guys with fiberglass we can come up with an idea of custom ones. Reason for that is id like to have a slight angle like the elise ones are placed so that the generated down force is not disturbed much. Also ill have ducts to gain some down force from that and also some hood latches will be needed :D

I am smitten with the lines of the standard hood. I simply lóve it.
So does the Málaga nurse. She would be fúming if I ruin that. Sunday, when parked at the Classic car thing, she wantyed to see the underhood support structure and was adamant that I should opt for the apertures higher up so as not to ruin de elegant front lines.
I will admit that this, she; her opinion in this, weighs rather heavy  :-[

Not cutting the holes just yet but see no real feasable alternative to this rather simple job I can do myself.

Once i get some free time i will start removing the plastics too and will check if we can somehow fit a triangle brace in front. After that ill remove the steering pump because the discovery that you made about the different level of assistance got me quite shocked. I can never get used to it if its 20% or 30% or 40%, seems like a nightmare to me because these cars seem easy to be over corrected to the point of no return. Then will think about tilting the rad and making some ducts and after that some cutting of the hood will start.

There is a channel on youtube that i liked quite a lot, the guy has some idea of aero stuff: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCh3tzzP6n5b1EWcMUpiEhXg

Wanted to post it here and not in pm so the others could also benefit from it. :)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 12, 2019, 14:06
Quote from: Nvy on March 12, 2019, 11:14
There is a channel on youtube that i liked quite a lot, the guy has some idea of aero stuff: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCh3tzzP6n5b1EWcMUpiEhXg


You will find that some of his examples such as the Audi TT and mx-engineinwrongplace  are very much applicable to the SW30.

The SW30 is also a bit of an odd duck in the family as the Mk.1 was off factory offered with up to twó rear spoilers and the Mk.2 was not exactly left alone.


(https://www.autozine.org/Archive/Toyota/classic/MR2_Mk1_3.jpg)
(https://www.autozine.org/Archive/Toyota/classic/MR2_Mk2_2.jpg)



Anyway, I will start (and maybe end) with a boot lit lip and the bonnet vents.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 12, 2019, 19:15
Holes cut, vents stuck in with silicon, piles of books on the corners.

Rather odd perspective that photo  :o

(https://myalbum.com/photo/XRsqloF7GGLA/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on March 12, 2019, 20:36
You don't hang around do you?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 12, 2019, 21:22
Quote from: shnazzle on March 12, 2019, 20:36
You don't hang around do you?


Oh no I don´t; I drive an sw30 :D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on March 13, 2019, 07:11
Quote from: Petrus on March 12, 2019, 21:22
Quote from: shnazzle on March 12, 2019, 20:36
You don't hang around do you?


Oh no I don´t; I drive an sw30 :D
Dutchies doing the mr2 community proud all around the world ;)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 13, 2019, 08:31
Quote from: shnazzle on March 13, 2019, 07:11Dutchies doing the mr2 community proud all around the world ;)

Aye, with free travel in 27 countries!

Seriously; have you lot thought about the consequences for the Alp tour?
Dó have a look at it as worst case there may be a passport issue and quite likely international driver´s licenses needed. If the UK keeps rejecting the visum agreement, even visa.

Anyway, Great weather here again. In a moment going down to village for a coffee on the square with mountain love, a stroll over the market, finish the bonnet, stimp-stamp (Dutch food) for lunch, top down to Málaga love with half a dozen fresh eggs and compliments from mountain love.

Fingers crossed that I have suitable screws for the vents (as the corners need tightening down) and that the other two parcels will be in the post Friday morning. I realyrealyréaly want to fit the rear lip and try the aero difference over the weekend.
The front lift reduced and drag improved should be quite noticeable in straight line stability.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 13, 2019, 09:41
(https://myalbum.com/photo/blyQO17SuGpr/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 13, 2019, 12:20
The strawberries where 5€ for two 2 kg. boxes  :D
One box for the mountain, one box for the coast.


(https://myalbum.com/photo/16EcfTzHFHzC/1k0.jpg)

(https://myalbum.com/photo/QqyOnpCz4sT2/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on March 13, 2019, 12:25
Ooohh

I like!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Nvy on March 13, 2019, 12:31
I have to really find a remove work and just relocate there, shouldnt be too hard for an IT person. It seems like a quite nice place!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 13, 2019, 13:16
Quote from: shnazzle on March 13, 2019, 12:25
Ooohh

I like!

The weather, the strawberries, the harmony .... or???

Looks like I succeeded to retain the sweet front lines ánd have the vents in a low pressure area.
Hope it works.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 13, 2019, 18:05
(https://myalbum.com/photo/e4PS9ErSdZEZ/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 13, 2019, 18:28
Went down the mountain, took a detour and a bit of extra highway; the hígh way, literally; the toll road to Málaga. A piece of road building art linking tunnels to long; high viaduct to tunnels to etc.
Very little traffic, smooth tarmac, wide curves and the occaional STRONG winds through the valley crossed by the viaduct.
Overtook a few lorries with strong crong crosswing at about 160 km/h.

Ok, the difference.
1. With my car the left front corner of the bonnet started to ´lift´ at 60 km/h.
Now it stays put till 160  :o 
2. At 160 passing a lorry with strong sidewind, the car is more stable than before at 140.
3. The surprise was the notable reduction of buffeting. It is logical but unexpected.
More of a difference, wáy more, than expected.

All in all a success. It looks better than I expected and the result is beyond what I could have imagined.
Rather a large difference from a few narrow slits.
Reasoning it; the location and the design probably create a low pessure zone efficiently extracting the air at a higher pressure under the bonnet.
The extra air means more mass of air rushing over the windscreen, thus rolling over just a bit further back behind it.

Hope the rear lip arrives Friday. Can´t wait to try that out now.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 13, 2019, 21:12
Because I like them



(https://images.cdn.circlesix.co/image/1/700/0/uploads/posts/2016/02/626407d0473174ca87e23fe06bcd2e85.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on March 13, 2019, 22:06
They are by far the best alloys in my opinion
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: 1979scotte on March 14, 2019, 07:44
Agreed
Unless we can get something in carbon fibre
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Nvy on March 14, 2019, 08:10
I like the looks of 6UL better to be honest but if i find 2nd hand Enkeis i wont refuse :D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 14, 2019, 08:56
Quote from: Nvy on March 14, 2019, 08:10
I like the looks of 6UL better to be honest but if i find 2nd hand Enkeis i wont refuse :D

They drop in price very little and imo it is not worth the risc.

On the ´same´ subject.
Been looking at lugs. I don´t like the large heady duty OEM ones and on Enkeis (or other) will need the acorn seat nut anyway.
The question then becomes; which ones. There is way more variety than in wheels even!!
Obviously you want the wheels to stay on so not economise on the nuts but there is about 800 grams between steel and duralmin.
I am thinking of simple;

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Fr4AAOSwojdbR3iq/s-l1600.jpg)

Durable, reliable steel yet as light as possible.

These

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ypIAAOSw66Faj5ds/s-l500.jpg)


are eyewateringly beautifull but >100€....
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 14, 2019, 19:34
Back in the mountains again.
It was tough at the coast.


(https://myalbum.com/photo/4k9o5D0MihER/1k0.jpg)


Yes, noticed the difference consistently.
Took the interior ´scenic´ route through the valley. That is a second norm route showing differences. This time the camber/allignment ánd the bonnet vents since the previous time I travelled it.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: delhusband on March 14, 2019, 19:49
Quote from: Petrus on March 14, 2019, 19:34
It was tough at the coast.

(https://myalbum.com/photo/4k9o5D0MihER/1k0.jpg)

That's just cruel, it's cold wet and windy as hell here  :P ;)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 14, 2019, 20:01
Quote from: delhusband on March 14, 2019, 19:49
That's just cruel, it's cold wet and windy as hell here  :P ;)

Let me rub it in then; the lady in the middle paid for the lovely lunch  ;D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: 1979scotte on March 14, 2019, 20:16
Really don't like this bloke.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on March 14, 2019, 20:29
Haha! You seem to have an issue with Dutch people ;)

But yes... Jealousy is an ugly thing but... Fk it.. Jealousy it is
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: 1979scotte on March 14, 2019, 20:38
Quote from: shnazzle on March 14, 2019, 20:29
Haha! You seem to have an issue with Dutch people ;)


Maybe its because my wife lived with one once.   :o
But as is the case most of the time the British won that battle.   >:D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 14, 2019, 20:54
Quote from: shnazzle on March 14, 2019, 20:29
Haha! You seem to have an issue with Dutch people ;)

Well, I was bórn in the Netherlands because of the coincidence of falling out of the vagina of my mother there.
As I don´t do the national or flag thing and most définitely opposed to monarchy ... Dutch? I think it a mega cón to have to be a national of anywhere.
Don´t do the marriage thing either, do do more than one partner.

Quote
But yes... Jealousy is an ugly thing but... Fk it.. Jealousy it is

Decided to buy the Enkeis...

Edit; just ordered them.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on March 14, 2019, 21:14
Quote from: Petrus on March 14, 2019, 20:54
Quote from: shnazzle on March 14, 2019, 20:29
Haha! You seem to have an issue with Dutch people ;)

Well, I was bórn in the Netherlands because of the coincidence of falling out of the vagina of my mother there.
As I don´t do the national or flag thing and most définitely opposed to monarchy ... Dutch? I think it a mega cón to have to be a national of anywhere.
Don´t do the marriage thing either, do do more than one partner.

Quote
But yes... Jealousy is an ugly thing but... Fk it.. Jealousy it is

Decided to buy the Enkeis...

Edit; just ordered them.
Yeah I'm with you Scotte. Don't like this guy ;)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Chilli Girl on March 14, 2019, 21:47
Hmmmm, I'm not a fan either but I do like the red stripe on his car! :D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 14, 2019, 22:25
Quote from: Chilli Girl on March 14, 2019, 21:47
Hmmmm, I'm not a fan either but I do like the red stripe on his car! :D

But the soúnd man, listen to the soúnd  8)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on March 15, 2019, 09:25
Is that " the sound" of the still mountains, " the sound" of the sea, or "the sound" of a motor bike exhausted 2 on it's way between the two?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 15, 2019, 09:42
Quote from: Joesson on March 15, 2019, 09:25
Is that " the sound" of the still mountains, " the sound" of the sea, or "the sound" of a motor bike exhausted 2 on it's way between the two?

The mp3 I attached earlier; the sound of the bike exhausted MR through the mountains. It ríps.

Just collected three parcels from the p.o.; one for me, two for a ´Mark´.... I will ask mountain love to put it on facebook.
Mine is the aero strip. It is quite sturdy quality. Will have to put in in the sun before attempting to fit it.
Yes, ´sun´; it is wonderfull again with thé bluest of skies.
As lvely as that is, we NEED rain. It is bone dry, 25 degrees in the afternoon, frost in the morning; not doing the harvest any good at all  :(
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 15, 2019, 11:35
(https://myalbum.com/photo/yocb3ijEZ2ab/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/2tG4pUhjey85/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/P4l3yEUraJfA/1k0.jpg)


Should work a treat; change drag, create a proper wake, even extract more air from the engine bay.

Ah, and the weight  ;)
The steel cut outs from the bonnet outweigh the vents and rubber strip.



Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 15, 2019, 16:43

Took mountain love for a spin and she volunteered noticing less buffeting from 80 km/h and most markedly at 120; ´did you change something? There is less wind noise, less disturbance!!´

The rear lip is a minor thing but;
- it contributes tothe less turbulant air flow over the tub; that is not subjective
- the rear feels just that bit more planted; that may very well be subjective


For tomorrow we have planned a roud trip to and along the coast, then inland up to Granada and back home.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 16, 2019, 16:54
As planned; inland route to the coast, old N340 eastwards, oldest bit of N340, then from Almuñecar over the N4050 to Granada.

Whereas the N340 is the original Routse 66 so to speak, the N4050 must be one of thé unspoiled riders´ routes; almost 55 kms of varied driving heaven.

On the remnants of the pre war N340 we encountered a Cabra montés; a wild mountain goat. A more extreme example of how out of use those 4 kilometers are would be hard to think of.

Oh and the car was a dream!

Charming company;
´Ooooohhhh I lóve those pop noises´ about the occasional afterburn exhaust sounds on the overrun.
´...and why would you want that wing? For what extra traction/stabilty?? You already ignore speed limits by several factors!!´


(https://myalbum.com/photo/0z1zscRkbmtu/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/sFdmtq2j9ZLa/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/xtco1E7TIy5d/1k0.jpg)

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Chilli Girl on March 16, 2019, 18:28
Great pics.  :)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 18, 2019, 17:32
Today drove the gf´s Peugeot 307cc along the N340. Some of it the same as Saturday.

Also a convertible, 140 ps. about the smae age and mileage.
Being 2+2 versus strictly 2 is small difference, 50% more weight is a bigger difference.
Thé difference however is FF vs. MR; apart from it being a lot heavier, most is up front and being púlled forward.
The FF layout makes the car fundamentally stable in a straight line.

Two compact convertibles from the same era with identical output yet só, almost diametrically, different.

I wanted to take photos but her´s was dirty so no go  :-X
Ah well, summer is near so there will be plenty of opportunities in nicer settings than Málaga suburbia.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 19, 2019, 19:00
The other Malageña has a religious streak so specially for her I drove up the church forecourt and



(https://myalbum.com/photo/CZ25i17Ty6yr/1k0.jpg)



The Enkeis should be here somewhere next week.
Hopefully the wheel nuts too.

Meanwhile anxiously awaiting the Pokeball shift knob  :D

Oh and today was fathers´ day here.
Will save you the details of the but mountain love missed the ball whereas shé is the mother of my kid! To make that up she has offered to buy me the rear wing  :o

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 23, 2019, 18:55
Three days of sun and gfs in the MR. Done close to 100 kms of stunning roads.

Thursday with curly Malageña on the way to her appartment the exhaust reverberated in the moist quiet night air. She got all giggly so I shifted down, rvved it a bit through the next corner. When parked she observed she found the racey note veru sexy and --- euhmmmm... exciting  :D
Thát is a first!

Friday enjoyed a particularly beaútiful lóóóng corner, nicely banked, slighly uphill, with the car controlled júst sliding when mountain love exclaimed ´Jézus!´. So I eased up asked whether it was too fast. ´Oh no, didn´t you notice that stínk of that chicken farm we passed just there?!´

Today with Malaga nurse was just cosey pottering along. Most notable moment was the car parked right in front of the terrace where we sat, a réally good cappuccino and thé best lemon merengue pie icecream I have tasted sofar.
Whát a life.

Here a shot of the Iznajar dam. There is no way to get there other than over the most pittoresque of twisty roads. Low speed high driving fun.


(https://myalbum.com/photo/76HDFBwaVDpm/1k0.jpg)


Now about to leave for Antequera. My son is coming back from the students exchange in France around midnight. It is a very nice place to go out but haven´t been there at night for years so combining that with his mother.
She has purple neon glow under the car  ;D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 24, 2019, 09:08
The region I am based in the northeast of Málaga.  Bordering the provinces of Córdoba and Granada. It comprises of a very varied hilly to mountainous karst region and houses 7 véry different villages. Well, ´different´ not so much the villages itself but because of the varied geography their surroundings and economies.
Most are only connected trough local roads.

This is a minute impression of Cuavas San Marcos.

(http://uk.zooverresources.com/images/E93789L2B2686239D0W900H675/Cuevas-de-San-Marcos.jpg)
(http://uk.zooverresources.com/images/E93789L2B2683921D0W900H675/Cuevas-de-San-Marcos.jpg)
(http://uk.zooverresources.com/images/E93789L2B2683171D0W900H675/Cuevas-de-San-Marcos.jpg)
(http://uk.zooverresources.com/images/E93789L2B2683170D0W900H675/Cuevas-de-San-Marcos.jpg)
(http://uk.zooverresources.com/images/E93789L2B2686702D0W900H675/Cuevas-de-San-Marcos.jpg)
(http://uk.zooverresources.com/images/E93789L2B1733731D0W900H675/Cuevas-de-San-Marcos.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 24, 2019, 11:53
It has been the most dry winter since they started recording rain here.
Thus we nééd rain.
Saw some clouds hanging low around the mountain so decided to wash the cars.
Indeed some drops.
It did not even wet the ground.
Júst enough to leave sand spots on the black car I just dried.

Mine is ok as I dried that under roof.

Still no rain worth that name.
Only 50% probablity Thursday morning.
Good for lovely drives but nothing much else.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 25, 2019, 20:16
F@CK!!!
A glitch with the Enkeis I ordered. Untill the seller sorts it, no deal.  Rather unbe-effing-lievable; am prepared to pay the bucks and this is the thírd time a not at all bargain falls through! So no, not even third time lucky >:(
Right, enough negativity.

Received two bottles of ceramic 9-whatsit wonderstuff to armour the paint.
Will try it out on the MR in the cool of the morning tomorrow before I have a go at the metallic black SUV.

Rain has been postponed till Sunday.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 26, 2019, 13:29
Put the 9H stuff on.
Maybe I am doing it wrong but there seems to be a contradiction in the user info.
It says to apply it on a misted surface using a moist cloth but also that the stuff dissolves in water.
When applying the latter prooved true as any residue in a nook/cranny thwarted the polishing up dûh...
Now if you leave it enough for the crannies to dry out, the stufff does not rub out anymore.
The MR being small and mostly grey, I have sort of sorted it but the big metallic black SUV will need a different approach. Will need to think about that  :(
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 26, 2019, 22:47
Received the wheel nuts. As simple as they come yet high tensile steel and 40 gramms lighter per nut.
Times 16 it is rather more than one would expect just on a set of lug nuts.
At 40€/kg. rotating unsprung weight it is rather cheap too.
Since I was going for different wheels anyway it made sense.
Now the wheel quest has stopped it makes less sense  :(

They may be, veryvéry sad  :'( , mile stone markers too btw.
For the moment I am not ordering anything form the UK to avoid it, whether correctly or incorrectly, being caught up in possible customs hassles per the 29th or 12th or  :-\
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on March 27, 2019, 08:59
So it will be Snr Petrus that affects the UK's trading figures for March!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 27, 2019, 12:51
Quote from: Joesson on March 27, 2019, 08:59
So it will be Snr Petrus that affects the UK's trading figures for March!

Anyone EU-side with a few working brain cells will be aware that any buy arriving over the weekend máy meet with bureaucratic hassle even though it theoretically should not untill 12 April or 22 May or   :-\
Common sense in the brain cells makes them ask; ´why risc it?´
One answer coúld be the pound dropping but that is not nów and again  :-\

Take buying Enkei RPF1 wheels: They have a delivery from UK of 3-4 wheeks min. so which rules will be in vigor is  :-\

Just a real world Brexit example from Spain.

Done a third of the bl@@dy big SUV. Looks good = mountain bird happy  :D

Will drop by the tyre bloke later in the afternoon.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 27, 2019, 20:10
To avoid confusion; not mý photo nor wheels; just something to look forward to  :-*


(https://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg161/juicyjosh701/AD084.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on March 27, 2019, 21:21
Those wheels are huuuuge
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 27, 2019, 21:31
and the tyre thus very little more than a rubber band around them.

I do not at all get the obsession with ever lower ratio tyres. It is no that the road surfaces keep up in smoothness. More like the inverse! (:< >:)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 28, 2019, 06:38
Oh my!!! :o

A heat wave here!
No less than 5,5 degrees this morning  :)
Makes a nice change from just above zero.
Also using warm water to wash the rear of the SUV  :P
Makes a nice change from water just above zero  :withstupid:
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 28, 2019, 12:52
Took the aerial out because it going up/down all the time bothers me big time and it is also up making noise when using the cd whereas I néver use the radio. Ah ánd it removes weight. It is only 1 kilo though  ???
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on March 28, 2019, 13:13
1kg for tbat unit? More than I thought
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 28, 2019, 13:31
Quote from: shnazzle on March 28, 2019, 13:13
1kg for tbat unit? More than I thought

I swapped one in a 4x4 some years back and that was 2 kilos. The MR2 one is just about all plastic housing in a metal bracket though. So lighter than I expected but then the metal I cut from the bonnet was heavier than I expected because I had to cut some of the reinforcing frame too.

All in all just over 60 kilos of lightness added now, counting adding the front strut brace.

Sounds a lot and yes it is noticeable, but it is not even an average passenger.

Just took the rear storage doors out. Indeed surprisingly heavy at a bit over 2,5 kilos.
Leaving the rest in as it looks neat. The doors out adds just that bit of extra space for luggage. It it needs to be stored secure, then they are put back in 10 minutes top.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 31, 2019, 11:59
Ofcourse one could say it applies to any car. Any car that pushes your buttons, any car that sparks you interest, any car that stimulates to mods, is fun, motivating. I have no doubt that say an MX5 is just as satifactory.
I doubt however that it is as rewarding because the MR is véry sensitive to changes. I would not say it is more knife edge as that would suggest it is more tricky and I think it is not. What I mean is that because everything is just that bit more direct, you notice changes more direct.
This motivates to fiddle, call it faff about, with it.

Also it is in concept not designed to be practical, designed to be a runabout toy. Literally too; a Toy.
You don´t need to feel to take it seriously on the estetics. It is fun to nót take it seriously.

When driving the thing about, it provokes, gets smiles. Lots of smíles. Whether they laugh át it, or me, think it odd, ludicrous or fun, smíles it is. I have not taken it out a single time and nót seen a smile or heard a cheer from some kids.

We have fínally some rain here now. Hopefully the whole week as in the weather forecast. Just in time after the dryest winter recorded.
Means I will be doing chores inside the house and not take it out much. Next time I go down to Málaga I need luggage space so it will stay under for that too.
Time to ponder about things to do to it. Even when it is under roof because of rain it is fun :-)

Currently on the list are lighter rims, better rubber, the engine torque damper, shift knob, rear wing, smaller front number plate. Oh and the effing airbag light.
Also would like to chuck the floor mats. If I can find a bit of black cloth that sticks to the carpet so I can place it under the pedals, they are out.
Can´t think of anything more. Till I think of it ;-)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on April 1, 2019, 09:16
Spot on with regards to it being quite sensitive to changes, calling you to tinker. That's my problem :)
Hence my wife often saying "why can't you just leave it alone?".
Because it's fun! Sometimes the results of a change aren't what you hoped for, but then you can undo it, modify it, etc etc.
I love how everything seems to affect the handling, no matter how ridiculous a thing (e.g. Dev's door bracing).
I also love how responsive the engine is to changes in weather, fueling, air, etc. Some cars you could change the entire exhaust and intake and it makes no difference.
Inversely it also punishes you straight away if you do something wrong. But, the punishment isn't always terminal. The wealth of sensors and that watchdog ecu creates a lovely safety blanket.
On that note, did you know that the 1zz is used as the test/learning engine for High Performance Academy?
They chose it specifically because of its responsiveness to tuning and also how easy it is to get it to knock. That sounds like a bad thing but for an outfit that is set up for people to learn how to tune cars, it's perfect!

Gotta love the mr2. The endless money pit if you want it to be and the reliable fun roadster you barely need to touch if that's your bag
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 1, 2019, 11:36
Quote from: shnazzle on April  1, 2019, 09:16
Hence my wife often saying "why can't you just leave it alone?".
Because it's fun!

Fun it is  ;D ;D ;D ;D


(https://myalbum.com/photo/KbNtCAwix9uP/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 1, 2019, 13:20
One observation though, mý gfs think me always modding my cars über 8)
Sent them and a few female friends the above photo and ÁLL  :D it. Totally appreciated the humor.

Shared it with my son, his granddad and some male friends too. None gets it. What is that with blokes? All taking it serious.

Ah well, I like women better anyway  :P
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 5, 2019, 12:10
Ah  what lóvely rain!!!
A whole week of life giving water in the prognostics.

Means less farm work outside so made some time to write anóther intro for Spyderchat. The first got lost in approval by moderators.
Composed a masterpiece I say, with photos matching the story line. Alas, it was received by ´waiting for approval by...´ blurp.
That is IT!
If they cannot recover it, then tans pis for them.

Because the rain was as forecasted, I fitted the hardtop yesterday. It is very .... grey, I think. I know, it ís, but imo it jars a bit with the fun theme of the car.
So I asked the local wrapper about the possibility of a chrome wrap of it. Possible but the stuff is expensive he said.
Next is measuring how much is needed so I can decide it is worth the cost.

The Pokeball knob is nicer in the hand than the OEM one btw. It is slightly larger and feels better to the touch. Win-win-win  :D

One step backwards; yesterday I put the hard top on with my son. I first collected him from the bus stop. Still wonderfully sunny, so top down, enjoying the warming sun on the face.
While waiting for the bus to arive, a véry elderly lady walked up to me for a chat about the lovely car and that she thought I was só right in enjoying it.
Later in the evening mountain girl dropped in with the story that said elderly lady had stopped her in the village to say she enjoyed seeing me enjoy my convertible, life.



Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 8, 2019, 13:01
Seeing the líght!


(https://myalbum.com/photo/CBykuCY1yXhR/1k0.jpg)


And the sticky tape to go around them:


(https://myalbum.com/photo/k2tl8FYJbS9t/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on April 8, 2019, 16:04
Quote from: Petrus on April  8, 2019, 13:01
Seeing the líght!


(https://myalbum.com/photo/CBykuCY1yXhR/1k0.jpg)


And the sticky tape to go around them:


(https://myalbum.com/photo/k2tl8FYJbS9t/1k0.jpg)
Very very nice. The best shoes and feet in my opinion
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 8, 2019, 17:29
Quote from: shnazzle on April  8, 2019, 16:04
Very very nice. The best shoes and feet in my opinion

Bit the bullet last week.
Despite sweet weekend, teeth still hurt.
So thanks for conforming.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 9, 2019, 09:44
Mountain girl went through her box of watches over the weekend and kept two apart for me to give my opinion about.
One she thought too childish for her nowadays.
Right up my street  :D  and totally befitting my take on the MR2  ;)

So I cleaned the watch thoroughly and sport it on the wrist.
It is the first ´Doraemon´ G-shock and I lóve it!


(http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp326/50-gs/Jason/Jason50Multi_07.jpg)


Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 10, 2019, 17:38
(https://myalbum.com/photo/Z0aKDDr8mspd/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/y91omfUZncI3/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/aetVfGJJNSiC/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/SUZOc7aHnEbE/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Carolyn on April 10, 2019, 17:42
I just don't know how you manage in the face of such adversity.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: paulj on April 10, 2019, 19:01
I see blue skies - time to get that hard top off again!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 10, 2019, 19:14
Quote from: paulj on April 10, 2019, 19:01
I see blue skies -

It that all you see? Oh mán  (:< >:)

OK. Out again for another spin; Doraemon hunting Pokeball  :P


(https://myalbum.com/photo/tJBcpljhkgJq/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on April 10, 2019, 22:22
Soooo... A spin on the Enkeis with AD08s... Do tell!
Significantly reduced unsprung weight... It's gotta be good!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 10, 2019, 22:40
Quote from: shnazzle on April 10, 2019, 22:22
Soooo... A spin on the Enkeis with AD08s... Do tell!
Significantly reduced unsprung weight... It's gotta be good!

And véry good it is  :D

Did a few test laps.
First scrubbed them in.
That also gave me the feel of the new set up and put some temperature in the tyres.
Then pushed them gradually more till the car was sliding over all four through the industrial estate corners.
Also did enough laps on the roundabout to get the feel of understeer and pedal lift oversteer.
Now some observations.

The objective ones:
- They are líght. Indeed only 4.4 kg. and with the bonus of the AD08Rs being lighter than the ones I had fitted, 12 kilos were shed, including 0.5 kilo on the wheel nuts.
- Because of the deep bed design giving structural strength, there is véry little room between the brake caliper and the rim. Balancing weights clear only júst; that close they are.
- The different lug seats make that the studs sit deeper in the hole and thus the lugs have significantly less thread than the OEM shouldered ones. I am very happy to have gone for high tensile steel ones.
- The ET37 increases the scrub radius and that múst be the reason for the to my surprise easier steering at parking ´speed´. I can only explain this by the tyre now rolling just that bit more, less twisting. Weird because it is only 10 mm. but noticeable it is and the grippier rubber can not be the reason.

A safe one:
I am convinced that the deep bed profile and six double spoke design in forged/spun high quality alu alloy makes for a structurally very strong wheel. Enkei tests them to exceed the JWL (Japan Wheel Light Metal) standards by 20%.
I would expect them to be stronger than the cast OEM rims. Secondly they are of tougher material so will bend rather than break.

The subjective ones:
I need to start with pointing out that I have gone from cheap tyres on OEM rims to AD08Rs on Enkei RPF1s; meaning the subjective is a bit mixed up.
Nevertheless:
- The Advans are much stiffer in the sidewall. Steering is a lot more direct, lighter and understeer is deminished.
The lighter rims múst have an effect here too but that is all I can say because the AD08R sidewall is the biggy in this one.
- Another biggy is improved road contact and the resulting feel. Now thát is mostly the effect of the lighter rims. Over the cobblestones the stiffer Yokos should give a harsher ride but it is smoother. Thus the lighter rims more than compensate for the stiffer sidewall. Go figure on tarmac.
- Despite the much stiffer tyres, the comfort has improved and the better feel inspires confidence.
- The wheels feel less cumbersome. Undoubtedly from the combination.  Some of the lightness lost by removing the power steering has returned (tyres) but with the incréased feel of the better road contact (wheels).

The no one:
- Because of the waywáy better tyres there is no way to say anything about the effect of the Enkeis on accelleration or braking.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 10, 2019, 23:14
The bonus ones:
- The blokes at the tyre place, mechanics and customers, all thought the car looks different, better; ´lo suyo!´.
- I have received two whatsaps from friends who had seen me, telling me they like the new look so it must be noticeable :-)

The personal one:
I think the OEM wheels look very good. They look lithe but also a bit sweet, dare I say...´nice´.
The RPF1s add a 180 degree different element to the car; I think they look serious, dare I say... F1.


(https://farm9.static.flickr.com/8470/8141273967_70acd15fa4_b.jpg)




Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 11, 2019, 00:13
Just thought of something. In retrospect should have measured it. The deep bed of the rim increases the air chamber inside.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 11, 2019, 16:56
The weather cleared up yesterday with ditto forecasted for the next few days, so took the hardtop off before I went down to the coast.


(https://myalbum.com/photo/pj4OQoS61AQW/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/DhKoFZiRqclX/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on April 11, 2019, 20:50
Not a lot of room for error there! If your 2 is on a public road the Health and Safety Executive, or whatever such an organisation is called in Spain, must take a very different view of potential hazards than in the UK as I'm  sure that unguarded road edge wouldn't be "allowed" here.
But then again we don't try to outrun or fight bulls.  ;)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on April 11, 2019, 21:01
Quote from: Joesson on April 11, 2019, 20:50
Not a lot of room for error there! If your 2 is on a public road the Health and Safety Executive, or whatever such an organisation is called in Spain, must take a very different view of potential hazards than in the UK as I'm  sure that unguarded road edge wouldn't be "allowed" here.
But then again we don't try to outrun or fight bulls.  ;)
And this is exactly what's wrong with the UK.
Too much handholding. Too much "don't worry about it, we'll protect you, no need for common sense and care".

As a foreigner I'm fully qualified to say that the biggest (if not, one of the only) downsides of the UK is the ridiculous nanny-state attitude, "health and safety" and lack of accountability. Things can't possibly be your fault. There's always someone to blame. At no point is it "well shit, there's a gaping hole in in the pavement, I should have paid attention instead of staring at my phone". No. It's "I'M GOING TO SUE YOU FECKERS! I'M going to ruin your life and have your kids taken from you! Hahahaha"


.. And there endeth the dodgy foreigner's rant
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on April 12, 2019, 08:53
Unlike the above Scribe I'm of British birth but partly from Southern European stock, nevertheless I don't disagree with said Scribe's argument.
However, I am of an age where I can remember when "things" were different, you were responsible for your actions. What changed this?
I suggest that the UK took the absolute letter of each and every dictate passed by the European Parliament and applied it here, whereas, perhaps those " dictates were not so strongly applied in other parts of Europe.
The "Blame Culture" that now exists here is exacerbated by the  sharks with their "Cash for crash" and some people do like to take advantage.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 12, 2019, 11:38
Meanwhile, under the southern sun, I am enjoying my life, my car, to the limits under my own judgement, assuming my own responsbilities.

Been doing tthe enjoying bit all morning. Júst finished lateláte breakfast; grated tomatoe on toasted bread covered with a bit of extra virgin olive oil. Sprinkling of coarse salt.... Freshly pressed orange/mandarin juice, hand pulled cappuccino hmmmmm. Oh and some papaya.
Last of the coffee beans btw so will be popping out to get a bag of Ethiopean Arabica in a moment with the southern belle next to me in top down Southern Belle.

Unbelievably clear blue skies so will try take some snap shots if/when I can stop in the scenery.


p.s. about the bridge. The locals are ever so pleased with it. Untill 8 years ago they had to ford this river. Whenever it rained they were cut off.  Made a big stink when an abuelo was washed away in his 4x4 when the water prooved to high.

Also, this country is about 1.000 x 1.000 kilometers, with hígh mountains, with húge bits unihabited; even the only true desert of Europe.
You can still live real adventures here. ´Adventure´ per definition meaning that the unexpected wíll happen, that you need to pack common sense and be sufficiently capable to hold you own.
Did 4.000 kilometers of which 2.400 unpaved, through the least inhabited parts last year with my then 16 y.o. son in a 35 y.o. DAF 77 (Volvo 340).
Dare to live  :D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 12, 2019, 19:50
Quote from: Petrus on April 12, 2019, 11:38
Did 4.000 kilometers of which 2.400 unpaved, through the least inhabited parts last year with my then 16 y.o. son in a 35 y.o. DAF 77 (Volvo 340).
Dare to live  :D

This was the year before with the 55 Marathon...


(https://myalbum.com/photo/8zNtFN0ATk4F/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on April 12, 2019, 23:03
Quote from: shnazzle on April 11, 2019, 21:01
And this is exactly what's wrong with the UK.
Too much handholding. Too much "don't worry about it, we'll protect you, no need for common sense and care".

As a foreigner I'm fully qualified to say that the biggest (if not, one of the only) downsides of the UK is the ridiculous nanny-state attitude, "health and safety" and lack of accountability. Things can't possibly be your fault. There's always someone to blame. At no point is it "well poopoo, there's a gaping hole in in the pavement, I should have paid attention instead of staring at my phone". No. It's "I'M GOING TO SUE YOU FECKERS! I'M going to ruin your life and have your kids taken from you! Hahahaha"


.. And there endeth the dodgy foreigner's rant
As an Englishman, I can not let the above "dodgy foreigner's rant" pass without comment.
You Sir, are spot on.
Though, I tend to blame the Americans for the blame culture. But sadly, it is us, that have followed it.

I'm trying to find a particular section from "Yes Minster" that echoes your observations.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on April 12, 2019, 23:29
Dear @Petrus (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=25573)

Just for clarity
Could you list exactly what I'm looking at re the enkei and tyre combo.

You on stock springs or lowered?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 13, 2019, 09:48
Quote from: Ardent on April 12, 2019, 23:29
Just for clarity
Could you list exactly what I'm looking at re the enkei and tyre combo.

You on stock springs or lowered?

7J 15 all four.
195/55 R15 Front
205/50 R15 Rear
Stock suspension.

I am an ardent  ;) follower of as soft as possible without having the door handles scraping on the ground when cornering hard, long wheel travel for better road contact.
The lowering has downsides that hamper roadworthyness on the open road.

The above featured DAF77/Volvo340 is a perfect example. For the 2400 kms unmetalled going we raised it 5 cms. with longer springs up front and extra ones at the back, nót stiffening up the spring rate nor the damping.
The tyres are 155/80.
The thing wallows like a Spanish galleon but even on tarmac (real word mountain road tarmac) we were a véry hard act to follow because all four tyres kept in contact with the surface. An experienced gentleman racer in a 500 hp Jaguar by Ford had to let us go on the touge route in the South.
Ditto a 911. They very sportingly let us pass when we were on their bumpers. Some others were not so sporting so we had to barge through. Simply shoved it up the inside with nó way of making a proper corner but they could not pass on the exit anyway with us in the middle of the road  ;D We even passed an Elise but that driver had véry nearly lost it over a cliff edge in a descend and was shitting himself.
The thing is you need balls to throw a soft sprung car like that about but it although unsettling to do and scary to watch, it is quite safe as you do have contact with the road.

Again; as soft as possible without wearing the door handles = best road compliance.


Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on April 13, 2019, 11:34
After reading that am I wrong in thinking Renault Citroen2CV suspension, but more of a stallion in the engine department?

Oops, corrected after Petrus's reference to the ( Renault) R4. A car that I liked but never got around to, I thought of it as a "better" built 2CV both cars are very utilitarian but very fit for purpose.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 13, 2019, 11:57
Quote from: Joesson on April 13, 2019, 11:34
After reading that am I wrong in thinking Renault 2CV suspension, but more of a stallion in the engine department?

The 2cv is a good example. Even leaning over at the silliets angles on the skinniest of tyres they keep surprising road contact.

The R4 is another example, better still even. Just that bit less travel with ditto firmer springs/damping, slighty wider rubber and arguably one of the best, if not outright best, engines of all time and they are stíll the cars to beat in raids. They even have the legs of the old 4x4 Pandas!!
Ok, so the cushy concept does not work on a speed racing circuit but again, the real world road is more like narrow track rallycross!!!
Same goes for wide track body of modern ´sports´cars:
The above mentioned Jag. could not go round many corners smoothly because the car hardly fit! The thing is that a 2 meter wide car on a 3,0/3,5 meter wide lint of tarmac looks comfortably fitting but we all know that the rear wheels cut corners = make the car wíder, as does any overhang at both ends. A 90 degree turn before of after a bridge with concret markers is... :o

Between the nauseatingly floppy 2cv on 80 section and a fillings jarring hard M4 on 30 sections lies a world of better real world compromises. The by the motoring press hallowed ´sports´ cars are not in that section. By the more enthusiast than knowledgable readers they are seen as a benchmark they are not.
I very much appreciate the Spitit team videos as is becomes clear that Touge set up and track set up are way different. Now imagine that the Touge competition is the race version of riding on the open road which needs a step softer still!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 13, 2019, 18:17
Back in the mountains and stúnning weather.
25 degrees midday!!

Later in the afternoon asked mountain girl out for a ride. I warmed the rubber up (the increased grip amazed her) and we swapped places on the now deserted industrial estate.
She is not one to throw it round but I told her to brake, bráke , BRÁKE. She could not believe how the thing grips the road and stops.
You ain´t seen nothing yet and I took over. A lap to heat the rubber up and dropped the anchors from about 100 km/h. Eyes wide open, jaw dropped.
Tarmac some 30-35 degree, rubber a bit warmer and indeed stopping short.
She gets the extra grip cornering but is not all that in favour of that, less still at the price it comes at, but the braking... SOLD!!  :D

She suggested a drink and tapas in Talillas restaurant, one of the rally sponsors. Please a detour over town square so she could wave at friends ;)
Antonio, the restaurant owner, came outside for a look and chat about the car. ´If we enter it in any competition´ he said ´count with me!´.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on April 13, 2019, 20:28
 :notworthy:
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 18, 2019, 13:52
Went down to the coast for two days with nurse-love. Had lunch with curly-girly and then back up into the mountains.
At the coast roads were wet, back up wet/damp.
The feel of the AD08Rs is confidence inspiring. That is hpowever a double edged sword as I found myself doing silly speeds on the mountain roads  :-[
Found the limits too  :-[ :-[  On the whettish the ´snap´ is almost back. Still easy to catch though. Even in a corner on a nárrow strip of tarmac. Phew.
The lesson is try it out on the industrial estate track a bit more in the wet.
Áwesome grip though  ;D

Had a notice in the post that the head steady mounting kit is in the post office. Religious festive days though and it ís a mountain village, so it may not open till Monday.

Rain forecasted till at léast Monday, so it´s hard top swap time again.


p.s. just received a link from a friend in the ´city´ up the road, at the other end of a stunning touge route from the village.
Her front door is the half open one on the right.

https://www.laopiniondemalaga.es/municipios/2019/04/16/cabras-montesas-pasean-archidona/1082542.html?fbclid=IwAR01-ZxdUTiai1-z-pZ9fEBYRcD97HPvioQo6HphkOBJWFjW2mokWqjnoMc

These mountain goats; Ibex, were the staple diet of the Neanderthal population that lived here in the region from some 200.000 - 40.000 b.c. in the Boquete de Zaffaraya and the Cueva de la Grajas in Archidona.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Nvy on April 18, 2019, 14:06
Quote from: Petrus on April 18, 2019, 13:52
Went down to the coast for two days with nurse-love. Had lunch with curly-girly and then back up into the mountains.
At the coast roads were wet, back up wet/damp.
The feel of the AD08Rs is confidence inspiring. That is hpowever a double edged sword as I found myself doing silly speeds on the mountain roads  :-[
Found the limits too  :-[ :-[  On the whettish the ´snap´ is almost back. Still easy to catch though. Even in a corner on a nárrow strip of tarmac. Phew.
The lesson is try it out on the industrial estate track a bit more in the wet.
Áwesome grip though  ;D

Had a notice in the post that the head steady mounting kit is in the post office. Religious festive days though and it ís a mountain village, so it may not open till Monday.

Rain forecasted till at léast Monday, so it´s hard top swap time again.


p.s. just received a link from a friend in the ´city´ up the road, at the other end of a stunning touge route from the village.
Her front door is the half open one on the right.

https://www.laopiniondemalaga.es/municipios/2019/04/16/cabras-montesas-pasean-archidona/1082542.html?fbclid=IwAR01-ZxdUTiai1-z-pZ9fEBYRcD97HPvioQo6HphkOBJWFjW2mokWqjnoMc

These mountain goats; Ibex, were the staple diet of the Neanderthal population that lived here in the region from some 200.000 - 40.000 b.c. in the Boquete de Zaffaraya and the Cueva de la Grajas in Archidona.

Mine arrived too. I have filled the front and rear mount with urethane glue and the vibration is not that bad to be honest so its worth to check on that :)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 18, 2019, 14:17
Which urethane adhesive did you use; there is a wide variety of hardness availeble, from window putty-tacky to rock solid.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Nvy on April 18, 2019, 14:41
Quote from: Petrus on April 18, 2019, 14:17
Which urethane adhesive did you use; there is a wide variety of hardness availeble, from window putty-tacky to rock solid.

Thats a good question, ill ask the guys and will let you know once they reply. The others could share their experience too tiger seal is a good choice but no idea how stiff it is.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 18, 2019, 15:03
Quote from: Nvy on April 18, 2019, 14:41
Quote from: Petrus on April 18, 2019, 14:17
Which urethane adhesive did you use; there is a wide variety of hardness availeble, from window putty-tacky to rock solid.

Thats a good question, ill ask the guys and will let you know once they reply. The others could share their experience too tiger seal is a good choice but no idea how stiff it is.


There should be a value in the product details.


(http://www.precisionurethane.com/images/hardness_scale.gif)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 19, 2019, 12:27
Black clouds in blue skies so taken De Kikker out for a spin with the hard top on:


(https://myalbum.com/photo/R23bM5a1h5CE/1k0.jpg)


Mountain girl even shot a short video but sending that with the mountain wifi ... well, may take while. Not sure I can share it here btw.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: 1979scotte on April 19, 2019, 12:29
YouTube and then embed
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 19, 2019, 13:55
Quote from: 1979scotte on April 19, 2019, 12:29
YouTube and then embed

Here´s the link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97tlU3HqnBM&feature=youtu.be

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: 1979scotte on April 19, 2019, 14:34
That first road looked awful.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 19, 2019, 14:40
Quote from: 1979scotte on April 19, 2019, 14:34
That first road looked awful.

Oh nooo!!!!! those tracks are só much more fun than the boooring last bit  :o

Now imagine the first type in steep, stéép variety; MR2 heaven  :D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on April 19, 2019, 17:20
Thought for a moment there was going to be a moment.
Then remembered you drive on the wrong side. Phew!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 19, 2019, 19:13
Quote from: Ardent on April 19, 2019, 17:20
Thought for a moment there was going to be a moment.
Then remembered you drive on the wrong side. Phew!

I can imagine that!

We drive on the right side though.
You on the left.
8)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: 1979scotte on April 19, 2019, 19:18
Quote from: Petrus on April 19, 2019, 19:13
Quote from: Ardent on April 19, 2019, 17:20
Thought for a moment there was going to be a moment.
Then remembered you drive on the wrong side. Phew!

I can imagine that!

We drive on the right side though.
You on the left.
8)

No we drive on the right you lot do everything wrong.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 19, 2019, 22:29
about doing everything wrong....

Over here the periodic MOT inspection is rather particular.
Just read that my frunk mod. will not pass. It is not permitted to cut or mod the reinforcements and....


(https://myalbum.com/photo/QqyOnpCz4sT2/1k0.jpg)


:-[


Hmmm.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on April 19, 2019, 23:07
looking optimistically, are the testers that familliar with the 2 to know a mod?

Glass half full, and looking for a refill type thing.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 20, 2019, 09:52
Quote from: Ardent on April 19, 2019, 23:07
looking optimistically, are the testers that familliar with the 2 to know a mod?

Glass half full, and looking for a refill type thing.

Well, even after several glasses emptied a half blind inspector would notice the frame cut outs.

Also read that a grp or carbon replacement hood is not legal either. Must be metal.

The rear wing is permitted as long as it stays within the outer dimensions of the car BUT the supports cannot be in aluminium   :-\
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: 1979scotte on April 20, 2019, 09:59
What is it with some governments.
Everything is legislated.
Is it Norway that has similar rules? Anywhere else?
Definitely good old blighty wins this one.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on April 20, 2019, 10:10
I believe Switzerland is rather unfriendly to car mods.
As in, if it's not how it came out of factory, it's not legal.
If you do modify it, you essentially have to get it MOTd again for the specific mod and get some kind of certificate.
Imagine the stack of certificates we'd have :)

UK is very mod friendly indeed.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 20, 2019, 12:01
Quote from: 1979scotte on April 20, 2019, 09:59
What is it with some governments.
Everything is legislated.
Is it Norway that has similar rules? Anywhere else?
Definitely good old blighty wins this one.

Actually there are EU guidelines.
Some countries follow them, some go stricter, some slacker.
Also there are the instructions of the inspectors which can go either way.

Spain is very much on the strict side; as per homologation and évery mod must be added to the vehicle registration document. At a price ofcourse at every step of the proces. Thís is the object as the primairy function of the modern western State is to pertain itself.

The UK has opted to not implemented several of the EU guidelines. Again there is an ulterior economic motive as the UK State has an interest in the flourishing kit car industry.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 20, 2019, 15:03
Double posting but this way I keep the mods to Souther Belle together.
My appologies.


(https://myalbum.com/photo/i6qq0nMWaCJL/1k0.jpg)               

(https://myalbum.com/photo/0gjuHarbuwGN/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 22, 2019, 08:43
Will be going down to Málaga before noon; enjoying a damp but rained clean mountain route. The views will be só clear and green. Twice as long, at least, in time but making the trip part of the goal  :D
Hard top fitted unfortunately as it will likely rain before/when I get back on Wednesday.
Only half filling the tank; no sense in 20 kilos too much fuel sloshing about.

Right, now first mud plugging to feed the animals and stock bales at the paddock.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 23, 2019, 19:46
Went into Málaga center this noon/afternoon with Málaga gf.
Áfter Easter, Tuesday midday mid April and more tourist than tables/chairs already  :o

Coming weekend gréat weather so staying well clear of Málaga and adjacent beaches.
I think I´ll go via Antequera, Campillos, down past the beuatiful lakes; Guadalteba, Gaitanejo and Conde de Guadalhorce to Mijas coast, great touring with the hood down.
First back up though tomorrow. Currently strong winds, rain, even hail in the mountains so good thing, a hard top.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on April 23, 2019, 21:38
Not too much of a problem if you are moving, which you clearly do. ;)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 24, 2019, 08:41
Ahhhhh..., you mean I get around  ;D

Still have Córdoba on the roll. Not as place to visist; that I covered, but to get to know at the hands of a local guide.

This morning was weírd.
The thing is I had to be fairly early to get a machine sorted.

Kissed still sleeping Málaga girl goodbye in bed.
GREAT ride, súch clean roads because of the rains last night.
Kissed still sleeping Mountain girl goodmorning in bed.
Weird.

Back to the car; mán I love those AD08Rs. When getting up to temp they already give very clear feedback. Not THE grip yet but you can confidently drive them to where they are at.
Same thing damp patches. They will warn you controllably, not simply let go.
Since the roads do not allow for high speeds, the ´lack´ of power traditionally vented about this model, disappears: The cornering speeds are só high, basically the same as the limit of the conditions, road, surface.
I find that I hardly push the car accelerating nor brake a lot.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on April 24, 2019, 12:38
 :notworthy: :notworthy:
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on April 24, 2019, 18:26
Quote from: Petrus on April 20, 2019, 09:52
Quote from: Ardent on April 19, 2019, 23:07
looking optimistically, are the testers that familliar with the 2 to know a mod?

Glass half full, and looking for a refill type thing.

Well, even after several glasses emptied a half blind inspector would notice the frame cut outs.

Also read that a grp or carbon replacement hood is not legal either. Must be metal.

The rear wing is permitted as long as it stays within the outer dimensions of the car BUT the supports cannot be in aluminium   :-\

The non metal hard top for the 2 is a factory supplied option, so technically not a "replacement".
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 24, 2019, 18:54
Quote from: Joesson on April 24, 2019, 18:26
The non metal hard top for the 2 is a factory supplied option, so technically not a "replacement".

Bonnet, sorry; see photos.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on April 24, 2019, 19:04
Quote from: Petrus on April 24, 2019, 18:54
Quote from: Joesson on April 24, 2019, 18:26
The non metal hard top for the 2 is a factory supplied option, so technically not a "replacement".

Bonnet, sorry; see photos.

Saw the photos but unfortunately didn't relate to the Americanism! So will this mean you will need a "spare" unmolested hood / bonnet for your "MOT"?


Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 24, 2019, 19:06
Sadly, yes.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 25, 2019, 10:18
Quote from: Petrus on April 19, 2019, 13:55

Here´s the link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97tlU3HqnBM&feature=youtu.be

A footnote; mountain girl deserves a compliment because she generally keeps stumm unless I go in ´hunting down-mode´ and when we drove to Vélez the other day her only comment was that those would be racer motorcycle blokes were a nuisance braking for every corner, holding us up.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 26, 2019, 15:32
Life on the sharp edge; ordered a bl@@dy large rear wing.
If the gf´s don´t like it, well they don´t háve to sit in the passenger seat but the car goes better balanced with the seat occupied and I still have Córdoba on the list; it is up to them  ;D 
Will take two or three weeks for the wing to fly over here so we all have time to sort it  ;)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 28, 2019, 15:10
Great drive yesterday.
Think I smelled the clutch material though... :(
I cannot nótice it slipping but it must be.

Had the Mini VCI diagnostics kit on the wish list anyway so that has been ordered.

Also looking into the clutch change on the smt. Seems the clutch is the same but not; needing a thinner thrust bearing?!
Not too keen on having it done by the AD.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 1, 2019, 10:07
A  national holliday so most people are late to rise.
I got up early to enjoy the empty roads in the glorious morning.
Nearly back at the farm up in the mountains, I for the fírst!! time experienced lack of horse power.
Coming out of the village I got stuck behind a Seat Cupra hot hatch with a wannabee behind the wheel. The twisty bit was too narrow with simply not enough clear view to pass and on the straight meters he sped off.
Only the last kilometers of a highly enjoyable ride though, so a nice cool down anyway  :))

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: 1979scotte on May 1, 2019, 15:23
Quote from: Petrus on May  1, 2019, 10:07
A  national holliday so most people are late to rise.
I got up early to enjoy the empty roads in the glorious morning.
Nearly back at the farm up in the mountains, I for the fírst!! time experienced lack of horse power.
Coming out of the village I got stuck behind a Seat Cupra hot hatch with a wannabee behind the wheel. The twisty bit was too narrow with simply not enough clear view to pass and on the straight meters he sped off.
Only the last kilometers of a highly enjoyable ride though, so a nice cool down anyway  :))

Why I wanted more power straight off the bat.
Too much TED on stock power levels.
Living in the congested SE you will always get stuck behind something.
Even at 0630.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 1, 2019, 16:10
Quote from: 1979scotte on May  1, 2019, 15:23

Why I wanted more power straight off the bat.
Too much TED on stock power levels.
Living in the congested SE you will always get stuck behind something.
Even at 0630.

As I wrote, I live in driver´s heaven.
On the secondary roads here there is very, véry little traffic. If you choose the hour/day right, traffic is even rare and then easily passed.
Hence this morning was the proverbial exception.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 3, 2019, 17:58
The most beautiful spring weather here so after a morning cup of coffee on town square went for a spin with charming company in the passenger seat. The last part was almost all of my test route.
She weighed probably some 75 kilos including her shopping, handbag and my laptop.

Because I always do the test route solo I clearly noticed the difference of 75 kilo even though sat low in the middle.
After I had dropped her off, went to the local breakers to have a look around for safety belt buckles, which lead me over the second half of the test route.
Yes, definitely noticable.

With the grippy tyres very much more than with the slippy ones. The reason being that the forces are higher so the same % difference is a larger actual difference. Like 10% of 1.000€ or 10% of 2.000 = twice as noticable.

She saw me looking at bomber bucket seats on the laptop and asked about those.
´Well, I need to adjust the handbrake cables.
For that I need to take out the centre console.
For which I have to take the seats out.
Well and if I have the seats out, I might as well replace them with lighter ones.´

;D




Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 5, 2019, 18:48
Before taking the seats out took my dog for a short spin. He was as content as a monkey with seven tails  :D


(https://myalbum.com/photo/LLhWlWvM1hPZ/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 6, 2019, 14:33
WUUUUFFFFF!!!! :-[

The Northern Belle, aka mountain girl, was in a .... euh... playful mood and demánded I take her out in the Southern Belle for  naughty pictures under sun in stunning scenery.
I dropped whatever I was doing, forgot what, sorry, also for not sharing any of the photographs. But I am dwelling off topic;
so back to the cár:
Since we were in a good mood, the weather ideal and the route/scenery a dream, I pushed the car a bit. Not too much so as to become uncomfortable for the charming company but enough to be fun for me.

One stretch of highway only; now bear with me; a bit of a spaghetti-like y-junction winding over a junction of three local roads. Our direction is a a split off curve to the right that then bends to the left over the whole lot, to continue in a right bend to become the southbound highway.
This combination of bends first slopes down, then rises over a viaduct and then slopes down again. The cambers are positive, positive, negative, positive and there are several bridge sections with steel connections running at an angle accross the lanes.
Right, I flowed through at around 180 kmh and mountain girl kept chatting in relaxed comfort.
So I asked her what speed she thought we were going back there. She thought 140 max.
Thát Sirs, it a húge compliment to this little car  :D

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 7, 2019, 16:14
Ok, I know it is bad form, but weighed the lady.

Coming back from the village saw Diego entering the cooperativo so followed him in and he weighed my car.
Normal crap in glove box, tow eye/bolt, bottle of puncture repair foam, windscreen washer fluid, say 15 litres of gas.
Mind; it´s an SMT with airco and OEM sound system.


(https://myalbum.com/photo/F4ampo2zh7RX/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/CshnG0YrSjl6/1k0.jpg)


Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on May 7, 2019, 18:06
Jesus that's a fair amount of weight saved!
You haven't even really removed that much
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 7, 2019, 18:33
In all fairness it should be mentioned that the official weight is with a full tank of fuel. But still, yes rather a  :o I had nót expected. It is an official weighbridge though so the really real weighed weight of the car I drove back from the village.

I already set the budget for the seat apart so when (read ÍF) I can get the female agreement, it should read under the 900 kilos.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 8, 2019, 10:10
The seat story is turning into a sage with devided points of view and opinions.
To be continued....

Another thing I have looked into several times over the past decennia, with different conclusions, is lexan windows.
Those dó save about half the weight of the glass ánd come with several additional advantages. On the MR, it would save a whiff over 3 kilos on the two door windows. Not a cheap one eitehr as they are thermoformed ánd need be hardcoated both sides.
Not sure whether that is worth bothering Mr.Templar about.
Any members of the group buy still about??
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Nvy on May 8, 2019, 10:52
Quote from: Petrus on May  8, 2019, 10:10
The seat story is turning into a sage with devided points of view and opinions.
To be continued....

Another thing I have looked into several times over the past decennia, with different conclusions, is lexan windows.
Those dó save about half the weight of the glass ánd come with several additional advantages. On the MR, it would save a whiff over 3 kilos on the two door windows. Not a cheap one eitehr as they are thermoformed ánd need be hardcoated both sides.
Not sure whether that is worth bothering Mr.Templar about.
Any members of the group buy still about??

Group buy? Did i miss anything?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 8, 2019, 10:56
No, was several years ago.
Mr.Mike Templar will still have the moulds though so it should be a doddle for him.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Nvy on May 8, 2019, 11:17
Quote from: Petrus on May  8, 2019, 10:56
No, was several years ago.
Mr.Mike Templar will still have the moulds though so it should be a doddle for him.

I would be up for it to be honest. Id need to make a video of my door open/close because the window is a bit pressured with the frame and i think it can be a bit wrong. I will post them on my thread, i still forget i have it.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 9, 2019, 10:49
Yesterday drove down to the coast. This time slow life mode; short shiftng, not pushing it, windows down, cruising through the views.
Decided on buying the Luso seats. Will order when I have sourced a set of OEM mountings. There should be plenty around but sofar nothing. Patience, patience. Like that is my fuerte  :(

Any of you remember the launch campaign in Japan or at least the illustrations?


(https://myalbum.com/photo/vneAwxRcybVg/1k0.jpg)


Malagueña gf is sorting her dress for the Feria de Jerez; WOW!
Never understood how Toyota marketing connected the MR-S with Cervantes´s windmills and Sevillana dresses but hey, in mý life it ÍS!
Here a row of Don Quijote´s ´giants´ in Castilla-La Mancha; we had time trials right at the bottom of the hill:



(https://myalbum.com/photo/SbAfSIc8um5q/1k0.jpg)



No time today but hoping to take some dress photos Tuesday.





Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 10, 2019, 11:04
Btw Carolyn; the ´no time´ was a cover up for her not wanting to go on any photo without the accessories such as the large flower holding the hair bun. It has to be just ríght or not at all. Even though it can be a bit of a pita at times, I lóve that attitude!

Tonight we´re off the ´San Isidro´. The new sanctuary of the patron saint of our barrio is opening officially this evening.

5 months of head to tail fiestas and ferias to go. A tough job but someone´s gotta do it  ;D

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 15, 2019, 16:37
for reason beyind my control; the will of the lady, no photo in/with the car but nevertheless; here the lady in red;


(https://myalbum.com/photo/nu6kct3aVurg/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/sNascCFK3lUH/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 15, 2019, 16:57
Today is an exceptionally lovely day, evn for here: Idealspring temperature with just a bit of a breeze: Thé ideal beach weather.

But let´s not get ahead. Yesterday was a very nice day too, just a bit hotter and more, more chilly wind.
Ideal for meeting a friend on a terrace at the beach.
A véry knowledgeble car guy, on holliday from the UK, and I suggested a quaint chiringuito, like 40 years ago and all but gone. You sit under a century old tree, just beyond the flood line but still feet on the sand. An old bloke shuffles around and tell his nephew, an out of work builder, to wait on the tables.
fter a lóvely lunch we walked up to ´De Kikker´ and he totally go it. Me not going for performance through hp but for sportyness through adding lightness. He has a Renault Spider so hardly a surprise there.

Today was sun(ny)day so went with the lady in red to Playa Marina; a nude beach just a bit down the N340, so now we are bóth red.
No, seriously, we took care. We líve here so aware and not in a hurry like tourists from the north.
Still had quite enough as it ís a very southern sun, however you look at it.
The drive there and back with the MR2 was púre enjoyment. Windows down, ríght along the bright blue med reflecting the brighter blue still southern sky.
The Malagueña observed she was ever so comfortable. ´Time to get the bucket seats then ´I responded. "But WHÝ?" ´So you tell me to put the pedal down to get there quicker.´  ;D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 17, 2019, 12:46
Is there nó end to the mods??!!

I have shave só much weight off the car, some 80 kilos and 20 to go still, that it sits ever higher on its springs.

On the one hand a weelywéély appreciate the extra ground clearance, it does not do much good to the stabilty at speed through long undulating corners.

So, shopping for lowering springs I suppose  :(
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 17, 2019, 20:39
Seems the Eibach Pro is quite progressive now:


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/IKEAAOSwOIxc0W9l/s-l500.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on May 17, 2019, 21:36
Quote from: Petrus on May 17, 2019, 20:39
Seems the Eibach Pro is quite progressive now:


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/IKEAAOSwOIxc0W9l/s-l500.jpg)
I always found this odd. Eibachs were always progressive for other marks
So when it was said the TTE springs are rebranded Eibachs, I didn't get hwy they weren't progressive
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 18, 2019, 08:24
Quote from: shnazzle on May 17, 2019, 21:36I didn't get hwy they weren't progressive

I sure am so Eibach Pro it will be  ;)
Will check the rubbers/stops today.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 18, 2019, 11:37
Cleaned the pcv-valve.
Simple job so .... sómething will go wrong.

The valve looke nicely clean, no crud, no oil but did not move freely; was stuck.
First wd40, chack rear gaiters.
Now spray oven cleaner.
Check front gaiters.
Clean the valve and presto; moving as new.
The lightest wipe of sealant and in it goes.

So what went wrong then?!
The rubber hose was split  :(
Cut it just beyond, so had to reroute it and ... it split again  (:< >:)
As it is a pita to change all the way, tightly taped it and it sits pretty again.

Ok, the shock gaiters.
Three ok, one split = all round change when I fit the springs.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Carolyn on May 18, 2019, 11:41
Quote from: Petrus on May 18, 2019, 11:37
Cleaned the pcv-valve.
Simple job so .... sómething will go wrong.

The valve looke nicely clean, no crud, no oil but did not move freely; was stuck.
First wd40, chack rear gaiters.
Now spray oven cleaner.
Check front gaiters.
Clean the valve and presto; moving as new.
The lightest wipe of sealant and in it goes.

So what went wrong then?!
The rubber hose was split  :(
Cut it just beyond, so had to reroute it and ... it split again  (:< >:)
As it is a pita to change all the way, tightly taped it and it sits pretty again.

Ok, the shock gaiters.
Three ok, one split = all round change when I fit the springs.

I'd advise replacing that valve.  Once they get old, the spring pressure goes off a bit and they just don't work as they should.
I know Dean at Rutland has some new ones and. I'm pretty sure Paul at TCB has some too.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 18, 2019, 11:50
Quote from: Carolyn on May 18, 2019, 11:41
I'd advise replacing that valve.  Once they get old, the spring pressure goes off a bit and they just don't work as they should.
I know Dean at Rutland has some new ones and. I'm pretty sure Paul at TCB has some too.

I´ll send an email to the latter about springs & gaiters to possibly combine.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 24, 2019, 10:58
Fínally  :D :D

A little BIG thing; the airbag light sorted. Phew  :P
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 31, 2019, 16:57
Seat mountings are in as is the belly brace.
Suffering from modding withdrawal symptoms and cannot have the bridge till Tuesday, so had a look at the seat mountings.

Quite good condition and easy to change from RHD to LHD.
Looks a feaseble mod. for the buckets too.
The back mechanism looks easy to remove and modify to reatin the belt buckle mounting hole.
Had forgotten about the driver seat incline mechanism so that is bonus! Better than faffing with spacers.

Quite héavy though at 6.5 and 7 kilos.
Luckily the back mechanisms look to be at least half of that. Makes sense as those need be immensely strong ánd have heavy duty springs on all sides.
I estimate that the seat swap maintaining OEM mountings will save 15-16 kilos.


Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Snelbaard on June 3, 2019, 13:09
Quote from: Petrus on May 31, 2019, 16:57
Suffering from modding withdrawal symptoms

That sounds all too familiar. Did the installation go well?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 6, 2019, 19:54
Quote from: Snelbaard on June  3, 2019, 13:09

That sounds all too familiar. Did the installation go well?

Allmost. The same as not done it yet.
Did put the car on the bridge today, but not untill late and first faffed about what to do with the springs/ride hight.
Then it was time to attend to the farm animals.
Mañana...

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 7, 2019, 13:25
....aaaaand.... dóne!

The brace was a doddle; the most complicated were the plastic clips.
No experience with the difference yet.

Also restored ride hight. Cut one ´coil´ off the front springs, half off the rear.  Cut 2/3 off the front first but it could do with a bit more off.
Belle sits nicely balanced pretty again.
No experience with the difference yet.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 7, 2019, 17:30
OK, went for a test drive over the ´norm-route´ and a spin over the ´circuit´.

First topped up the oil and the gas tank = heaviest non-passenger mode.

The caution is that I changed twó things; the Snelbaard belly brace and the springs.
The belly brace is replaces two OEM bridges and adds an X-brace; an improvement; basically a marginal gains thing; a stiffer stiffener.
The slight shortening of the standard springs took the car down from higher than spec to slightly under spec with a slight stiffening as side effect; a marginal gains thing.
These two mods have effects which are impossible to completely distinguish on the test route/ circuit., though the change from higher than spec to a whiff lower is more noticeble than the increased stiffness.
Oh and a third thing: The spring mod is correcting a step báckwards, the car standing measurably higher on the springs because of weight shed.

The cool thing of the MR2 whch I mentioned before is that small changes are surprisingly noticeble when the car is pushed to the limits of tyre adhesion. This time too. As observed, marginal but there. Just that bit more direct feedback giving just that bit more confidence.
It did not come at any noticeable cost in comfort which makes sense as I only minimally shortened OEM springs.

Bottom line;
recovering from a small step backwards, with marginal gains overall.




Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 8, 2019, 17:45
Today got some bags of horse feed from the coop.
I usually cart one bag, 40 kg., at a time to the feed chamber.
Today loaded two, thus 80 kilo, on the cart.
Thé best to experience the effect of that much weight: It is not much effort to keep walking at the same pace, but quíte another to manouvre or stop. It is no different laws of physics for the car.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 9, 2019, 18:31
(https://myalbum.com/photo/NDfXMCgrkrJK/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/MqmqPwjPLr9e/1k0.jpg)

Belle VIP-parked behind the stands at the WC Superbike in Jerez today.
To crown the fun day, Dutch rider V.d.Mark won. A lóóóng time ago I shared the starting grid with his dad Henk :-)

At a stop on the way back, there was a bright red BMW Z1 parked. Looks even more kit car in the .... plastic than on photos.

Belle drove like a dream. I may have complained about ´mid corner float´ but we followed several sporty cars and there is nothing to complain about  :o
To celebrate that, gave it a bit of reign through a lóóng highway corner near home I know wéll; totally empty road between the horizons so 180 km/h. and... simply a joy. It keeps amazing me how little wind buffetting there is btw.
As it is currently set up it is just right for the roads here. Ground clearance included as it scraped once, júst, when leaving the above mentioned parking lot. Any lower would be impractical.

And a bonus ´problem´: My son complained big time about the seats giving him a sore back. 400 kms. today and he went to bed t stretch it as soon as we got home. At that home his mom echoed him. They gave me the perfect argument for ordering the fiber seats  8)


Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: StuC on June 9, 2019, 18:36
I haven't seen a Z1 for 10+ Years!  :o
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 9, 2019, 20:47
Quote from: StuC on June  9, 2019, 18:36I haven't seen a Z1 for 10+ Years!  :o

They only made 8000, 6500 of which stayed in Germany and is is now 30 years ago so they are bound to be quite rare on the road.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: StuC on June 9, 2019, 22:40
8k is a tiny number.
Less than we have mr2's in the UK.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 10, 2019, 11:05
(https://myalbum.com/photo/52B2egSjXzvc/1k0.jpg)

It´s out.
Not a lot of work, nor complicated but not as simple as stated on Spyderchat, especially because old plastic of the various bits gets brittle.

Cleaning up now. First vacuum cleaner, then a wet rag and putting it together again...
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 10, 2019, 13:35
Got some ´red´ silicon stuff. Cut it to size and in it went:



(https://myalbum.com/photo/ffixRouGmhk7/1k0.jpg)



It shoúld be 6 kilo lightness added but have not weighed it yet.
Does not look half bad either, I have to say, more bad @bumbum than just bad really :-)
Time to put the seats back in but first a break as it is réal hot here. REAL hot.

Weighed it; - the silicon that went in 5 kilos.
Worth it?? Nahhh. But as is was almost for free; cost me 5€ for the silicon matts and ís 5 kg. lees.  Also looks better imo.
Had to take the seats out anyway as the locking nut of the handbrake cable adjuster had been tightened silly tight.
So, would do it again but because of the 5 kilo? No.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 10, 2019, 15:11
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(https://myalbum.com/photo/hhdQpnHjaiJ5/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 11, 2019, 18:24
I am amazed by the space, impression of space, gained. I mention both because though the carpet takes up a surprising lot of space, the surfaces now extending into de corners enhances an impression of space.
I am positively surprised.
To anyone who ever though about it I say go for it. Any weight gained is just a free bonus.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: StuC on June 11, 2019, 19:02
How is the noise level In The cabin?
Or
Have you just turned up the volume on your stereo?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Snelbaard on June 11, 2019, 19:03
I'm still debating whether I'm as hard core as you. I don't think I'm quite there yet.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 12, 2019, 09:16
I have not noticed any increase in noise level.
It would have surprised me too. For effective damping mass is needed and the carper is véry light.
Same thing the stuffing. In cars where it is used for damping it weighs 10 times as much.
The carpet is just there for aestetics and secondary for feet comfort of mainly the passenger.
This is supported by the fact that the suffing is only in the footwells. If it were for noise, it would be covering the wheel wells and as it is not even the carpet goes there.

Note too that there is no bitumen-like anti-dron material stuck to the floor like in just about any other car. Apparently the rigid design of the cabrio tub makes this unneccessary.

Because of some 5 cm of fluffy stuff gone from under your feet, you feel much more of the surface. You would think that reduced comfort but that is a common mistake; if anything the carpet makes sore heels wórse.
I have very small feet for a tallish guy; size 40/41 at 183 cm,.  and even I find that my feet fit the trottle pedal better. I can imaging that big(ger)foot will be chuffed to no end.

Well, don´t know Snelbaard, I am getting on in age; almost a collectors item it seems  O:-)
Imo it is just ´cold feet´ that those who lóve the MR2 for the way it drives, do not take the pas steering out p.e. Most things I have done are just as easily reverseble so why nt try it?
My car weighs under 920 kilos now and that makes a héll of a lot of a difference on the mountain B-roads over here.
I would say that the removal of the p.a.s and the small aero mods improved highway behaviour.
Apart from the bracing I´d put the p.a.s. removal high on the effective list.

Ok, the seats are now ordered. Going for dull black, black and black  :-[


And... I really like the way it looks now. Imo it totally fits in with the retro dash design.


(https://myalbum.com/photo/PzwdydVGsiSx/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: househead on June 12, 2019, 17:16
Really enjoying this Reader's Ride thread Petrus! Nice one.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 12, 2019, 22:28
Thank you!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 14, 2019, 10:25
The bucket seats are still two weeks, at least away. Só looking forward to fitting them.
And to weighing the car again  O:-)
Would lóve to see it under 900 kilos, say 2000 lbs.

After that I will try make a summary of the mods and their effects for as much as those can be separated.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 15, 2019, 17:20
With the seats underway and just about everything else marked ´done´ on the list, the crossed out Lexan side window are suddenly at the top  :o

Measured the glass and it is about 0.7 m2 together, thus potentially some 4 (max. 5) kilos there...

Please PLEASE tell me again why not, why I should leave ´well enough´ alone  :-*
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: StuC on June 15, 2019, 20:05
Does it need to be:
watertight?
with functioning windows?

If the later is true, can you lose the heavy window regulator?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 15, 2019, 20:20
Watertight would be nice but we have 300 days sun/year ánd it is under roof.

Yes, I would like it functioning up and down. Would not mind winding by hand, in fact prefer it, but cannot see that being a feaseble mod.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: StuC on June 15, 2019, 21:01
There is your bookend for door mods then! :)
Have you already removed the speakers? ;)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 15, 2019, 21:29
Quote from: StuC on June 15, 2019, 21:01Have you already removed the speakers? ;)

Gave it a thought in combo with taking the audio unit out. The thing is I really appreciate than mine has a cassette player. That is véry nostalgic cool because I have some casettes from when I crossed most of Europe on my K75 in the eighties and those tapes in the Walkman. Have not played them since because we went CD. So, no!
It só fits the retro dash and now bare steel look.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: StuC on June 15, 2019, 21:37
You could just buy a Walkman! It would weigh less!! ;)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 15, 2019, 22:12
Quote from: StuC on June 15, 2019, 21:37You could just buy a Walkman! It would weigh less!! ;)

Still have the old, direct drive and all thing. Direct drive stood for battery eating btw. and rechargeble batteries weren´t what they are today. Could now hook it up to the USB port.
For a good sound would need to use the car´s speakers though so there´s a good idea thwarted again. Darn.

Just remembered I should still have another storage box of cassettes. I have nó idea how that survived my moving house to live on a sail ship but I saw it sómewhere recently. It is one of those boxes with cassette sized partitions so there múst be cassettes in there. By Jove; probably unopened in over 30 years! Nice job for Tuesday when I am back from Madrid. If I remember; have a lunch date with the lady in red. That will distract me.

There ís a way to gut the door and still have up/down windows by leaving the window sliders and use the lower bolt hole in the window pane to attach an old seat belt. The male buckle bit to the belt, the female bit low on the door panel so when the belt is clipped, the window sits taut against the stops.
Did that in a 944 for a friend áges ago.
Anyone know what the regulators weigh? In the 944 they weighed several kilos but the MR has wires whereas that one had hefty metal scissor arms.


(https://dz310nzuyimx0.cloudfront.net/strapr1/7cdac1c0927498ad6fb661194e659edd/f2173efa8da15fafd4d5ddfc6537ae86.png)


Like the idea: Bolt the safety belt to 15/16/17.
Pull it up against  5/6.
Let it slide up/down through 18&23 between 3&4.
Delete all the regulator mechanism and still have an up/down window!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 21, 2019, 00:45
Short update:
Did a nude shoot with the car.
Malageña love observed that the car appeared to move through traffic/corners like one block; her way to say it is more rigid.
Took the highway route back with the tricky ´float´ corners; véry positive improvement.
Took the rear view mirror out.


Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Nvy on June 21, 2019, 06:04
Something to note: on facebook somebody said that the JDM doors are lacking some of the reinforcement inside and that makes them really light. Havent seen pics or anything but maybe its worth to look into it. The other option would be some "carbon" doors from kadean or something like this was the name.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 21, 2019, 09:34
The JDM is said to have no side impact reinforcement.

Been looking at the doors/door cards and it is not really feaseble to go the seatbelt route; the female buckle can not be fixed solidly in a practical/functional place and the male clip will be in the way when the window is up.
May still go Lexan as a straight replacement but sofar have not heard back from Templar.


Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 21, 2019, 11:06
Test  ;D

WARNING, nude woman in car  :o 
Although unrecognisable and US movie 16 fit, do not open when you don´t want to see or are in an unsuitable environment:

https://myalbum.com/photo/Qmd6AyogYhYB/1k0.jpg

Oh and yes, chrome mirror cover/door handle woúld look good.

By all means take it down Schnazzle and appologies if it shakes forum founding rules  ;)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on June 21, 2019, 12:01
Quote from: Petrus on June 21, 2019, 11:06Test  ;D

WARNING, nude woman in car  :o 
Although unrecognisable and US movie 16 fit, do not open when you don´t want to see or are in an unsuitable environment:

https://myalbum.com/photo/Qmd6AyogYhYB/1k0.jpg

Oh and yes, chrome mirror cover/door handle woúld look good.

By all means take it down Schnazzle and appologies if it shakes forum founding rules  ;)
Tasteful! Haha. Well played
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: househead on June 21, 2019, 16:42
Put a nude woman in your car and I don't think anyone will notice your chrome door handles (or lack of)! 🤣
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 21, 2019, 18:45
Quote from: househead on June 21, 2019, 16:42Put a nude woman in your car and I don't think anyone will notice your chrome door handles (or lack of)! 🤣

Good point.
The previous nude, Mountain Girl, in the MR session drew the attention of a road construction crew. They were cheering loud and clear above the quite loud and clear superbike exhaust :-)

WARNING, nude woman in car!
Although the only one passing the decency norms still open at own risk:

https://myalbum.com/photo/VXjlsysn0ooL/1k0.jpg
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 23, 2019, 18:21
For today I had doing Mountain Girl a favour on the agenda.
A collegue of her and husband were passing through the region and the idea was to have lunch together.
The collegue lóves my MR so we were meeting up at a gas station at the highway in the MR. Then they would follow us to the restaurant.
I had offered, apart from behaving good, that the collegue would swap places with Mountain Girl.

Right.
Rounded the roundabout at the gas station, swerved onto the parking lot and ... there were two sparsely clad young women cheering me on. So I hotted up the swerve in a short drift.
Louder cheering and ... ´can we take a photo with the car??´
Long story short they sat in the passenger seat, sexy poses, one even raised her shirt. With bóth draped over the car, they askied the collegue´s husband to take a photo.
He had his jaw dropped to the floor, so the collegue obliged.
Girls gave me a hug and off they giggled.
Yes, it ís different under the sun!

Mountain girl sussed the husband; ´never mind, it´s normal´.
Well not nórmal, but not extreme and it sussed him.

After lunch we changed the swap and husband descended into the MR.
His wife had to go to the powder room first so we went ahead, giving me time to put some heat into the tires and do one lap on the industrial park behing the gas station.
After two fast-ish corners, going a bit downhill into a blind 90 dgree right, I braked late: Before I hit the brakes he braced his feet deep in the foot well while grabbing for the roof handle... which was not there, so he was like chasing a bug in the air before grabbing onto the door handle with both hands.

At the parking lot he almost féll out of the door and was speechless while we had to wait for a few minutes.

When on the way home Mountain Girl observed that although she was unsure about what they were thinking of us, she was very appreciative of me having been entertaining company over lunch.
So having fun resulted in bonus points, WOW!!!

The only thing I goofed up with was in not asking the chirpy girls to share the photos, pointed out Malageña gf when I told her that. True  ::)
I will try better my behaviour  O:-)

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on June 23, 2019, 18:34
Fun days.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 23, 2019, 19:13
Quote from: Ardent on June 23, 2019, 18:34Fun days.


Well, you´ve just been down here, you know it ís different out here under the southern sun! Imagine having the MR2 hére....
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on June 23, 2019, 20:38
To keep my sanity, what's left of it.
I best not.
Drive me bonkers.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 27, 2019, 23:36
Pending the seats and frustrated by the mirrors, pondering about the aerodynamics.
Although the boot lip is surprisingly effective, shelved the wing thing for the moment.
The front lip works too, as does the bonnet vent so... looking at the nappy. Im am convinced it has an aerodynamic function but it is both a eyesore and a low point under the car. So, looked for aero solutions better looking and less low.
Ordered:


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/jU8AAOSwtNFbGp8w/s-l1600.jpg)


I hópe to be able to delete the nappy and have less drag. Will do a quadruple* test: As OEM, without nappy, with diffuser only, nappy and diffuser.

Concerning teh windscreen mirror I am happy with the delete option. It does improve the view. Would have lóve to have shown you lot a photo  with a nude woman in front of car alert but  have not come round to that; the third model´s and my agenda have not coincided yet.

So there you have it; aerodynamics, weight reduction and nude women ; three car priorities, not necessarily in that order :-)

* enjoying a La Trappe Quadruple.  Táste apart, the La Trappe beer is arguably one of top three (Westvleteren and Achel are the other two) best made réal beers of the world.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 6, 2019, 09:07
The rubber lip/splitter works very well.
I stuck it as far foreward as possible under the front part of the bumper skirt only, not onto the black wheel well bottoms so as not to infer with the flaps in front of the wheels.
The stability on the highway ncreased noticably. Apparently it deminishes lift.
A very cheap and definitely functinal addition.


(https://myalbum.com/photo/4ZZnBeVMK3AR/1k0.jpg)



Also made a provisional carboard ´Mongo´ and the difference is indeed quite worthwhile. Well, not the carboard version, but I would most defintely fit a perspex one!

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: StuC on July 6, 2019, 12:03
Just FYI, there is an oe solution for what you have done.

how to LINKY here (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?topic=57951.0)

Can't remember off the top of my head if this was only on FL's or not. I remember the discussion but not the outcome! Must be getting old! Lol
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 6, 2019, 13:26
Your post was my cue to dó it. Credit wehere it is due; your´s it is!

Mine has a different profle; not ´L´ but more of a splitter profile. 


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/UEMAAOSwKLVbUp3E/s-l1600.jpg)



Furthermore I stuck it as far forward as the bottom allows, so used self tappers to back up the adhesive tape.

Although it sits forward, the black/profile, maybe all modern cars having something akin or whatever results in it being totally unobtrusive.

Subjectively the feel is like having the frunk bucket with spare wheel and tool kit mounted at the front again.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 6, 2019, 17:58
Quote from: StuC on July  6, 2019, 12:03Just FYI, there is an oe solution for what you have done.

how to LINKY here (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?topic=57951.0)

btw. I put a carton on the straw stubbles. Lying on my back had four Frenchies ´helping´ me. Had to go inside to get my son to distract them...
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on July 15, 2019, 22:07
@Petrus

Can you recommend a website or resource where you can enter the specifics of a rim that you require and it will come back with the matches? Or just a lot of leg work drilling through various combos on various sites?
Rim weight is often missingfrom the spec, so how does one find this info bar ringing up the manufactureres.

Was the 7j up front a compromise or a deliberate decision on your part as stock would be 6j.
They don't do a 6j, hence my question above.

The enkies you have gone for, are all enkie in that range lightweight, is the RP1 the lightweight daddy of the lot?

Cheers
J
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 15, 2019, 23:29
There are several even lighter options than the RPF1 but these are the only ones readily availeble in Europe and furthermore the best quality/specs/price.
I would have preferred Volk CE28 but alas; practically unobtanium, too exotic, too overpriced. They are roughly a kilo lighter but come at 2.5 times the Enkeis.
As such the RPF1 is the gold standard.

The 7J was forced upon me because of availebility; 6 and 6,5 would have been lighter still. As it is I am very content because the 195 front suits my style better than 185; it is just taht bit less initial understeer.

It is basically a lot of fingerwork but for rim weights I found a quite extensive russian table as the only reliable source.  It was earlier in the his thread:

https://japan-wheels.ru/static/japan-wheel-weight.xls

The only site I use/used is:

https://www.willtheyfit.com/

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Nvy on July 16, 2019, 07:49
Quote from: Petrus on July 15, 2019, 23:29There are several even lighter options than the RPF1 but these are the only ones readily availeble in Europe and furthermore the best quality/specs/price.
I would have preferred Volk CE28 but alas; practically unobtanium, too exotic, too overpriced. They are roughly a kilo lighter but come at 2.5 times the Enkeis.
As such the RPF1 is the gold standard.

The 7J was forced upon me because of availebility; 6 and 6,5 would have been lighter still. As it is I am very content because the 195 front suits my style better than 185; it is just taht bit less initial understeer.

It is basically a lot of fingerwork but for rim weights I found a quite extensive russian table as the only reliable source.  It was earlier in the his thread:

https://japan-wheels.ru/static/japan-wheel-weight.xls

The only site I use/used is:

https://www.willtheyfit.com/



Hey,
Nice find, i too purchased some nice light weight wheels. Altho they are old school i kinda like them because they came at a little to no money plus original caps that can be sold for the amount of money i bought the wheels for. Give them a look ATS Cup limited line forged, sites state 5.5kg but when i weighted them a wheel came at 5.65 which is still nice. Not sure they will fit but they fit mx-5 so i think it should be fine. I wanted something 8j and more but when i saw these decided to give them a go.

On the width side of the above I think your style suits square setup as the turning is a lot more controllable with the screamer pedal. So if you can try a car with 205/205 i think you will like it.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 16, 2019, 08:16
The wider the rim, the heavier Nvy and I would have prefered stock width, thus lower unsprung weight  ;)
It is só noticable; conformation is só much better.
Earlier in this thread I explained I looked hard, hárd for Volks CE28 but... Very content with the RPF1s though and as a bonus they imo do look a lot more classic than the Volks. Hardly surprising as they áre true classics by now  ;D

Btw Ardent; searching for ´JDM wheels´ turn up quite a lot used rims. There was a set of supermegalight Volks for sale in your neck of the woods even. I could not get them here (a-hole seller), otherwise I would have a set of 3,5 kilo red club racers fitted now.

Right, enough internet; farm work to do.... ::)

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: 1979scotte on July 16, 2019, 08:27
I had 205 on the front and hated it.

Best wheel and tyre combo I've had is stock PFL on AD08R.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on July 16, 2019, 08:32
This thread and exchange of information put me in mind of this from Arthur C. Clarke:

It is vital to remember that information - in the sense of raw data - is not knowledge, that knowledge is not wisdom, and that wisdom is not foresight. But information is the first essential step to all of these.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 16, 2019, 10:18
This morning modified the inlet of the standard airbox.
Since the original horn/elbow is the way it is with very good reason I prefer to retain it and accept the flow restriction at the high rev end.
The duct through the inner wheel well is not really a limitation and basically only reduced inlet noise.
With it gone though, the entry of the horn can be improved; the bell shape can be opened up entirely.
In itself a very simply job but mán what a fáf is that plastic of the inner wheel well, more accuratelty the old brittle plastic push fasteners.
Anyway. done it and as a bonus it is 750 gramms removed:
3/4 of a hp extra, 3/4 of a kilo less; there we go  8)


(https://myalbum.com/photo/hHP8Rxgpjmwm/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/BmSKSoaYEzaK/1k0.jpg)


Now, if we can do a group buy of the TRD horn for sale, I could do a comparison :-)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 16, 2019, 10:27
Quote from: Joesson on July 16, 2019, 08:32This thread and exchange of information put me in mind of this from Arthur C. Clarke:

It is vital to remember that information - in the sense of raw data - is not knowledge, that knowledge is not wisdom, and that wisdom is not foresight. But information is the first essential step to all of these.


The bummer is that you don´t know what you don´t know; that there is always more, ALWAYS:  A vital bit of key info dropping into place a lot, is boúnd to be unveiled áfter you took a plunge :-(
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: jvanzyl on July 16, 2019, 10:38
Quote from: Petrus on July 16, 2019, 10:18This morning modified the inlet of the standard airbox.
Since the original horn/elbow is the way it is with very good reason I prefer to retain it and accept the flow restriction at the high rev end.
The duct through the inner wheel well is not really a limitation and basically only reduced inlet noise.
With it gone though, the entry of the horn can be improved; the bell shape can be opened up entirely.
In itself a very simply job but mán what a fáf is that plastic of the inner wheel well, more accuratelty the old brittle plastic push fasteners.
Anyway. done it and as a bonus it is 750 gramms removed  8)


(https://myalbum.com/photo/hHP8Rxgpjmwm/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/BmSKSoaYEzaK/1k0.jpg)


Now, if we can do a group buy of the TRD horn for sale, I could do a comparison :-)


Nice one - so what's it sound like?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 16, 2019, 10:52
Quote from: jvanzyl on July 16, 2019, 10:38Nice one - so what's it sound like?

Ah, you got me there: Had left the rhs door ajar over a few days and the battery is quite flat.
So tried to use the rally car and... not flát but too low to start.
Have to wait till mountain girl appears with her SUV and it´s giant battery.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 16, 2019, 11:17
Forgot the removed bit (apart from the ring sawn off from the horn entry):


(https://myalbum.com/photo/Bdb2CNjJnyp8/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on July 16, 2019, 12:29
Quote from: Petrus on July 15, 2019, 23:29There are several even lighter options than the RPF1 but these are the only ones readily availeble in Europe and furthermore the best quality/specs/price.
I would have preferred Volk CE28 but alas; practically unobtanium, too exotic, too overpriced. They are roughly a kilo lighter but come at 2.5 times the Enkeis.
As such the RPF1 is the gold standard.

The 7J was forced upon me because of availebility; 6 and 6,5 would have been lighter still. As it is I am very content because the 195 front suits my style better than 185; it is just taht bit less initial understeer.

It is basically a lot of fingerwork but for rim weights I found a quite extensive russian table as the only reliable source.  It was earlier in the his thread:

https://japan-wheels.ru/static/japan-wheel-weight.xls

The only site I use/used is:

https://www.willtheyfit.com/


Appreciated.
Theres tonight's project
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 16, 2019, 14:36
Wow, thát is unexpected.
My son was a bit clumsy with the starting cables; was not deciseve with the last clamp and the clock needles did no know whether they were coming or going.
The engine started though.
So took it out for a spin. Runs and drives ok; at lower revs a bit more crispy pick up and ditto more crispy exhaust note; more racy. But then it started cut out on tick over and the engine fault lights up.
Back twards home, stuck in the Torque OBD reader and ... no blue tooth.
Hmmmm.

Took out the one from the SUV and ... no blue tooth.

Meanwhile car started tick over ok but then the radiator fan kicked in so with no blue tooth, there was not much reading out fault codes.

Can there be any fuse blown out because of the starting cable or ... ??
Checked fuse 16 (OBD)  and 33 (ECU-B) .



Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on July 16, 2019, 23:45
@Petrus

Having just looked up the Volk CE28. Based on no more than asthetics alone.
I prefer RPF1
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 17, 2019, 10:07
Quote from: Ardent on July 16, 2019, 23:45@Petrus

Having just looked up the Volk CE28. Based on no more than asthetics alone.
I prefer RPF1

As I said, the looks compensate for the extra kilo ;-)


Ok, the drive to the coast and back.
Highly enjoyable!!
Both the girl and the car ride. A máss of soft, lovely smelling curls rolling down to half way her back, near black eyes you can fall into and a mile to fall in love with. Oh and bríght; has a construction company she set up herself from nothing.
But back to the business of a car forum...
It is a minor mod so the difference is marginal ofcourse but more noticable than I expected.
The car is simply more responsive.It feels as if the air in the duct needed accelleration.
I went back late (or early) and that means just about empty road over here. Just the exhaust note filling the wonderfully cool air.
Put on my cap and pulled it well down so as not to have the last of the fuzz blown off.
Over the pass, the last stretch homeward pushed it well into the three digits and same thing all the way up the rev meter or speedometer; the car is more responsive.

The ECU found relearning a bit of a challenge appareantly. Idle was consistent but too low.It was not untill this morning that it had an ´aha-erlebnis´ and found the proper idle speed.
This too illustrates that the de-duct has effect.

The wheel well space act as a plenum chamber and also as a still air dust trap.
Flow wise it múst have a positive effect in combo with the bell shape entry and that is very noticable.
Power wise I think you need it measure with an amplifier on the dyno to see a difference.
Dust wise I think that in most parts of the UK you can get away without the filter element. With the OEM plast horn the taper is probably more restriction than the filter but with the TRD pipe, I would be tempted even here.

Botom line: Very worthwile mod imo.
A hour of faffing.
No money involved.
750 gramms lost.
Responsiveness gained.

Looking forward to other experiences.

p.s. just cut the ends of the two plastic screws behind the fuse box off. That way you can leave the forward bit of the plastic inner skirt fitted and just drop the mid/rear on the tyre. The scres are just about impossible to get out anyway as the threaded plug in the sheet metal turns.

Title: By Jove this car is fun!!!
Post by: Petrus on July 18, 2019, 01:34
Tonight the c-company suggested we go out for a romantic spin under the mountain-bright wonder-full moon.
Got the car from the port, folded the roof down, drove it up the ramp and there, in the beam, she was waiting...
stark naked!!
Ok, save for matching pink high heels and mini backpack which later prooved to contain moon lit night fun stuff (https://forum.tz-uk.com/images/icons/icon6.png)
She likes the car... she says back at the farm.
Who am I to disagree (https://forum.tz-uk.com/images/icons/icon10.png)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 22, 2019, 11:41
The deduct apparently had more effect than I expected; it confused the maf/cpu.
Probably just outside the adjustment range of the grime ;-)

After cleaning maf again, clean intake duct, squirt cleaning foam into the throttle body / evac hole, wiping clean etc., the idle speed has improved to my liking.

The sound is wícked now  8)
Have to contain my enthusiasm to rev it :-*
I doubt that I could get away with this level of ´noise´ in the Netherlands or UK.
Last night passed through the village around 01.00 and got loud cheers form the village youths  ;D  so the police would no doubt frown oe worse ;)

The charming company really enjoyed the ride but did comment on the floor matts. Finger crossed about her view on the new buckets  O:-)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: jvanzyl on July 22, 2019, 14:21
At some point could we get an audio recording of your setup? I know you've got the pretty unique bike exhaust, but it'd be great to hear it!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 22, 2019, 14:41
Quote from: jvanzyl on July 22, 2019, 14:21At some point could we get an audio recording of your setup? I know you've got the pretty unique bike exhaust, but it'd be great to hear it!

Working on it.
My son should do that in the small hours early some morning but ever tried to get a teenager awake at that time?!
Extra complication is that I like to not always wake up at the farm ;-)
Just asked him and he thinks it stupid to the power of stupid but... ok. So, fingers crossed. Not when driving please.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 23, 2019, 08:57

Bought Dev´s improved ear strap from SC so this morning had a look in the tunnel to understand fitting it.
Despite the straps with the push buttons dangling loose, there is already something there!
Either end has a spring attached to a strap attached to the roof.
Appears that mine has an OEM replacement roof with ditto strap incorrectly fitted; Not first looping over the curved tube.
Unhooked, strap over tube, hooked up again.
Dev´s strap is surplus when it drops in the post...Luxury ´problem´.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 23, 2019, 13:05
Another day with the MR under the sun:
Passing through the village, thinking nothing,
Pilar, the lady of the post office, waves me down.
Urgent letter or a weird package, I think.
No; she likes my car she says;
a LÓT she says.
Wow that is nice, I think.
Thanks, you´re welcome for a spin, I say.
Oh my, I´d lóve that, she thinks.
Pick me up at six, any day, she says.
Lóve my car, I think.




Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 24, 2019, 09:53
The springstrap was too tight; deformed the hood both up and down.
Not a success,

The cars itself however...
Went down to Marbella for late lunch with a lady.
Over the pass was passed by a Seat suv; beepbeep and someone waving. No idea who, nor sure me waving back was noted.
Halfway down the Seat appeared to wait for me to paas so I oblige. Ah, now I see; ´Kippen-Loli´; the womoan running a chicken/meat stall in the municipal market, so I wave.
Waiting for a trafic light in Málaga; beepbeep, Hola Piter!!! she stops next to me, window wound down, smiling as broadly as the car permits. Que guay tu coche!!

Lunch date is a weírd woman. Amusing but no car link.

Then went further west to pick up the evening date. The curly mass girl.
She loves the car mostly because I enjoy driving it so much.
Although she has a trim figure, is not a big fan of how low it is so shakes her head about the planned seat transplant. We have this running gag about me all too often having coincidal brushes with fuller figure women* and she quibbed; ´good thing you always have lube in your bag; so the chubby fits´...
 
* if I take public transport the large one sits next to me
if I go to the cinema, the large one needs to pass through to the other side
at dancing class, the large one asks me
if I offer to carry the heavy bag of a women at the supermarket, it belongs to the large one behind her that was shoving away her cart

Now if you win the lottery over here, the saying goes that ´ha tocada el gordo´ ; you had the fat one.  In mý case the joke goes  that ´ha tocada la gorda´;  I have the fat lady.

Anyway, just changed the strap hook up. Going to the village in a moment and see how it works out now.


Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 29, 2019, 17:09
A series of interrupting time sensitive ´priorities´ keep pushing the mounting of the buckets back.
Quite frustrating but I dó need a bit of a time slot when I don´t need the car. The combination is usually not an issue but ofcourse; when you wánt it, it is.

Just this morning had to move the box with the seats and .....uffff... the two of them with packing material in a carton box way significantly less than just the passenger seat.

Meanwhile two other cars need more urgent attention so, next week it is. I hope  :-X
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 8, 2019, 17:29
The passenger bucket on the adjustable (RHD driver´s side)  OEM mountings.
At the front the bolt are already loosely fitted. At the rear the OEM brackets need to be raised 4 cm.


(https://myalbum.com/photo/xLKw8G9pYh8Q/1k0.jpg)



The driver side will be mounted on the current onder under the OEM seat.

Both OEM seats will be put on the non adjustable runners so they can be refitted in minutes. Either for a charming company objecting to the polyester bucket of for MoT.

The new seat do look rather spartan btw. which is multiplied by the absence of plastic covering rails and mechanism. Now Í like that but the c-company... well, let´s say not. I will not say even that about the comments and threats about the expense/comfort, but as she concludes; I do what I want anyway. So true :-)

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: wotugonado on August 9, 2019, 13:00
Well that's a marked improvement on your first attempt at replacing the seat

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 :)

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 9, 2019, 13:42
Quote from: wotugonado on August  9, 2019, 13:00Well that's a marked improvement on your first attempt at replacing the seat




Mwah. It wás lighter... ;-)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: wotugonado on August 9, 2019, 14:52
 ;D
Anything to save a few kilos
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: househead on August 9, 2019, 22:44
Interior looks very Elise-esque without the carpets!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 9, 2019, 23:19
Quote from: househead on August  9, 2019, 22:44Interior looks very Elise-esque without the carpets!

Hovering just under 900 kilos it ís very much like a pre 2zz Series 2 but then more roomy, more comfortable and ofcourse.... the proper soft top!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 10, 2019, 09:36
 :o  :o  the pound dropped another cent! Worth waiting a few days buying stuff in the uk. Had éxcellent dinner last night; spent 36€ for three, drinks included. That is... wait for it ... one week on the total I want to spend.
A bit long though, a week.
Buying now however, will not see it posted till Monday at the earliest. So better buy Monday and save 15€,  which buys the whole week breakfast on the town square. Nice compromise ;-)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 12, 2019, 11:25
That´s one under way; the decat midpipe; should be handful of kilos less and horses (and decibels) more:


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/NYYAAOSw-jVdOF2-/s-l1600.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 13, 2019, 09:41
Oh my.... :-*

The buckets are a bit tight.
Worse still is that I decided to fit the female belt buckle to the rear mounting bolt not leaving much belt to breath  ::)
A great imputus to crack on with my cycling and loose some more weight. Though not fát, at 6 feet 2 the ´cycling fit´ weight is startlingly less than my current weight so plenty of room for improvement giving room in the car  ;D  :))
It also means that my cycling outfits will get to be largish and I lóve loose fit.
Win-win-win ánd a fat WIN for the upcoming hip replacement.
So; another ibu and  cycling I go  8)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on August 13, 2019, 13:11
That is a neat pipe
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 13, 2019, 14:10
Quote from: Ardent on August 13, 2019, 13:11That is a neat pipe

Looks like it. Fingers crossed it´s like that in the real. Was rather cheap; 99 quid.

Anyway, seems I´m getting Belle trimmed down to under 900 kilos and I am doing my bit too :-)

There´s all that talk about horse power and I actually know a LÓT about horses, horse riding and teaching them.
So let´s go there:

Here is a 2 hp horse:

(https://images.boredomfiles.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2017/11/raft2.jpg)


Here is a 0.8 hp horse:

(http://www.aetcv.es/images/raza-de-caballo-hispano-arabe_2.jpg)


The former is about three times a strong as the latter.
Which one would you take for a spirited cross country ride? Which one would you expect to do 30 kms. brisk cross country quicker?




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Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: 1979scotte on August 13, 2019, 15:30
Much prefer heavy horse tbh
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 13, 2019, 15:34
Quote from: 1979scotte on August 13, 2019, 15:30Much prefer heavy horse tbh

I´ll see you half way on the way back then :-)


Point is horses for courses.
The definition of sports car revolves around the elements spirited driving, nimble handling.
The second aspect is the real world roads and not meaning highways.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: 1979scotte on August 13, 2019, 15:45
Quote from: Petrus on August 13, 2019, 15:34
Quote from: 1979scotte on August 13, 2019, 15:30Much prefer heavy horse tbh

I´ll see you half way on the way back then :-)

Not if we were pulling our 2s behind us yours would have barely moved.

How much torque does a horse make? 😅
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 13, 2019, 16:12
Quote from: 1979scotte on August 13, 2019, 15:45How much torque does a horse make? 😅

Mán, a LOT.
All the hp is pulling power at no revs.
When you have two equalising the torque it is mind bogling what they can pull (actually, they púsh but that is beside the point).
One draft horse can pull say 4000 kilo. Two pull not two but three times as much = 12000.

The definition of horsepower created by James Watt was based on the continuous, sustained power output of a draft horse.  He measured how much water could be raised in a minute, at a normal walking pace, which ended up as 33,000 ft-lbs/min.  Or 550 ft-lbs/s.  That is 1HP.  However, the peak power output of a horse (at a sprint) is about 15-20HP.
Torque is N.m so go figure a 10000 N horse with 1.5 meter legs applying muscle to thát.

Anyway, horses for courses and if you want to pull tree stumps, why buy an hispano-arabe or tres sangres which is what the MR2 Roadster is.
The way I see the MR Spyder as a slighly over fed hispano-arabe; a nimble agile horse yet more comfie and stable, less nervous than an arabe. I am trimming the excess fat but it will remain the easier more docile ride, will never change into the more high strung, trickier arabe.
It is also why I appreciate the easy going nature of the 1ZZ.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 13, 2019, 16:41
Back to Belle:



(https://myalbum.com/photo/2KHefqntYV2s/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Topdownman on August 13, 2019, 17:00
Got any plans for the door panels? A fair bit of weight in there I reckon.

I weighed just the door handles which were 650 gms a pair.

Is it the GT3 that just has bits of nylon webbing instead?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 13, 2019, 17:50
Looked at the doors. Although they are heavy, there is imo nothing to be gained there which does not come with outweighing downsides.

For the moment putting nothing extra on the list.
The decat pipe is underway as are three bits Carolyn sourced for me at Rutlands.
The fuel cap is a nice to have with no priority and the headrest streamline is most definitely for the next budget round  :-[

Also getting my own weight from top of BMI green range to low end is the higher priority.
Missed out this year on the Xtreme MTB Challenge and have to give the ascend of La Veleta (on the pedals to the last of the 3.360 metres) a miss too because of the hip but I want to be in top form at climbing weight next year.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on August 13, 2019, 22:10
All I know, I'm built more like horse 1 than 2.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 14, 2019, 09:35
(https://myalbum.com/photo/7D6ftLeiKk8o/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/MSHwZ43P8HQT/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 14, 2019, 09:44
Néarly done.

Need to give them a cm. more room to slide back and put together the OEM driver´s seat.

As observed not the most comfortable seating, but they do give way better support which is more comfortable driving.
The extra support and the lack of padding gives an extra dimension of feel.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 23, 2019, 11:55
Decat pipe is in.
Have the bridge Monday.
Véry much looking forward to it: It should lighten up the car, brighten up the engine and pump up the volume of the sound track ;D

It has become a bit of an art, well contorsionist act really, to get my bum into/ out of the buckets. Phew. About as much more complicate as it improves the ride so worth it but... mán I feel old  :-[
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 24, 2019, 01:34
Quote from: mr2noob on August 23, 2019, 20:14I remember watching a video where some young guy interviews the driver/modder Orido who said he intentionally shifted the weight towards the back among other things.

Well, I doubt that; he put the fuel tank on the front axle...
More likely that the balance shifted as a result of weight shedding and he only partly corrected that with fuel cell move.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 27, 2019, 12:19
(https://myalbum.com/photo/xvJ5s4XyEh6K/1k0.jpg)



Way lighter,
way less hot,
way louder,
way quicker.

The latter mostly between 3 and 5K revs. Véry noticable.
With the intake as free as it gets, with decat manifold and a straight through no-damper, the cat was the restriction keeping a small herd of horses reigned in.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Nvy on August 27, 2019, 12:53
Quote from: Petrus on August 27, 2019, 12:19(https://myalbum.com/photo/xvJ5s4XyEh6K/1k0.jpg)



Way lighter,
way less hot,
way louder,
way quicker.

The latter mostly between 3 and 5K revs. Véry noticable.
With the intake as free as it gets, with decat manifold and a straight through no-damper, the cat was the restriction keeping a small herd of horses reigned in.

I have fitted the stock exhaust and it sounds like a limo. Previously I had TTE and I can only imagine how loud is yours at the moment. If you have drone just wrap the pipe and it will make it a bit better. At least thats what I read on google and I fitted mine wrapped.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 28, 2019, 07:56
Quote from: Nvy on August 27, 2019, 12:53If you have drone just wrap the pipe and it will make it a bit better. At least thats what I read on google and I fitted mine wrapped.

The only drone I ´worry´ about is from traffic control. No legal base whatsover but the State is sending out fines nonetheless.

The exhaust note starts as a grumble, then after a rasp goes barking mad into a LOÚD scream.
When going trough the narrow, built up passages of the villages, I need to short shift, feathering the loud pedal to avoid any pace makers to flutter or hearing aids to pop.

Recording it is on the short list for this week early one morning.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Nvy on August 28, 2019, 08:17
Quote from: Petrus on August 28, 2019, 07:56
Quote from: Nvy on August 27, 2019, 12:53If you have drone just wrap the pipe and it will make it a bit better. At least thats what I read on google and I fitted mine wrapped.

The only drone I ´worry´ about is from traffic control. No legal base whatsover but the State is sending out fines nonetheless.

The exhaust note starts as a grumble, then after a rasp goes barking mad into a LOÚD scream.
When going trough the narrow, built up passages of the villages, I need to short shift, feathering the loud pedal to avoid any pace makers to flutter or hearing aids to pop.

Recording it is on the short list for this week early one morning.


My TTE was the same, until 2k rpms was okaish but when you step on it and shift after 6k rpms it was screaming. Now I see myself shifting quite late in traffic because Im used to shifting on engine noise and the OEM is rly quiet. What I like about it is that I can hear my passenger w/o the need of shouting :D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on August 28, 2019, 23:42
Caveat.
Grape juice has been taken on board prior to this post.

A well sealed tte should sing rather than scream.

In day to day daily use it should not dominate proceedings. There, but not there  much like well applied make up.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 29, 2019, 01:05
Quote from: Ardent on August 28, 2019, 23:42Caveat.
Grape juice has been taken on board prior to this post.

A well sealed tte should sing rather than scream.

In day to day daily use it should not dominate proceedings. There, but not there  much like well applied make up.

The TTE passes periodic inspection without the slightest frown abot the sound. My set up, well... the sound system is superfluous now.
The plan is to record a sound track early Friday morning.

Just back from the coast btw.; new star in the picture...
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 31, 2019, 09:16
At 05.30 dropped my son off in the village; together with the cycling club he is pedalling up La Veleta all the way to the top (3365 meters).
Did some chores and with first light took Belle out for a sound recording before anyone was awake on the industrial estate.
Taped the mobile to the rear bumper skirt, with the microphone pointing to the exhaust tip some 20 cm. below.
With now anyone present fully awake went home  ;D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on August 31, 2019, 09:49
I guess your not going to be standing for election as Mayor any time soon!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 31, 2019, 10:07
The sound track added!!!

Play on the computer, preferrably with proper speakers please.

Do note how easy it revs even in third.


MR2 geluid3.mp3MR2 geluid3.mp3
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on August 31, 2019, 10:25
 :o    >:D  >:D  >:D    ;D

Fruity
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 31, 2019, 10:32
Quote from: Ardent on August 31, 2019, 10:25Fruity

;-)

Did a sort of crooked, bent rectangle, so going through foúr corners, stopping on the same spot I started. The middle two sliding the thing. It is só smooth handling and really hangs on the loud pedal.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 2, 2019, 12:38
Quote from: Ardent on August 31, 2019, 10:25:o    >:D  >:D  >:D    ;D

Fruity

The verdicts of the gfs are in!

Mountain girl, currently in Galicia has played it various times because she thinks it delightful.
Malága girl (red dress one), back from China, thinks I am nuts, only bordeline fun nuts.
Wine girl, currently on Ibiza, says it sounds just right for the big kid I am.

Neither has sát in the buckets yet.
Málaga girl maybe Thursday. I will take a large garden seat insert as plan B.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 3, 2019, 10:47
In car sound not full throttle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCMfdLCBGMQ&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 5, 2019, 18:32
Down at the coast.
With the Red Lady to the beach. Her verdict on the buckets is; best swap for the originals when we go on the trip to Cadiz for few days.
Do note please that she has no issue with the lack of luggage space; ´Nah, that´s ok, and I will leave some for your bag.´

The muffler has blown a hole again and the engine fault light has returned.
Will need to revert to OEM till I have an aluminium sleeved muffler. Already sent a whatsapp to a motorbike friend. We´ll need to add some more damping stuff or a reflector as the sound really is tóó much now.
The code will have to wait till I am back in the mountain.
We´re taking the bus into Málaga anyway.





Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 10, 2019, 10:47
Sitting on a terrace at town square waiting for the motorbike friend to drop by so I can hand him the no-muffler.

I have to say that the car runs ever so sweet without a sound but rather sterile. I remain that Toyota missed an important trick there. I don´t care at all for more decibels but the car nééds a bit sexier sound.

Also the weight difference is  :o
Decat manifold, decat mid pipe, motorcycle no-muffler = 23 kilos less!! That is rather a lot.

Anyway, reset the P0420 error code and ordered a ´fooler´ spacer.

Trying to source a bonnet for periodic inspection. A bummer expense but my own fault.

The flip up petrol cap is still underway.

Rogue has responded about the costs for door panels + shipping. Thinking about it. Is it, the 8 kg., worth the money, hassle, comfort?

Also mulling over how bad I want the headrest fairings. I will need a dust cover too as with the fairing mounted it is a hassle to put up the roof for the night under the car port.
This way it gets to 500€ !! Hmmm....

Luxury problems.
First another coffee; the friend is underway. Then load the Volvo up with horse feed.

Found a bonnet!
Friend arrived - he thinks an aluminium sleeve is probably best - yes microfill will be way better than the current glass pack - takes the muffler with him.
Yes, can pick the bonnet up wednesday, tomorow evening. Good reason to stay with Red Lady.
Yes, ok with her; can I stay Thursday and Friday night too she asks?
Going out with Mountain Girl tonight and Saturday so ... luxury ´problem´; yes I can. Better take a siesta nap this afternoon  :-*
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Topdownman on September 11, 2019, 19:08
I found my spare mirror in the shed just now trying to find a stove for the weekend.

813 grams.

(https://i.imgur.com/39FWS23.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 11, 2019, 19:19
Thank you and WOW!!! That is rather a lot more than sweet Carolyn reported!
Means there is easily a kilo there, with the Vitaloni Sebring almost 1,5 even! Those come in cool chrome too!
Worth thinking about if I decide to go for the door panels*. Would make that a 10 kilo lightening action...

Just collected a second bonnet for the MoT. Means I will cut some more ribbings from the vented one. The whole bonnet weighs just over 10 kilos and feels HEAVY. Quite a perspective for the above.

Might just nééd a rear wing to to keep the thing rubber down  8)

* Will probably retain the OEM cards and just take the speakers out. Those are the heaviest bits and it will retain the comfort side of them.

(http://parts.auto-bella.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/6f5745d2c48da5d7a92af7cb11f65607/s/-/s-l1600_11__1_28.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 12, 2019, 09:23
The gf is taking a bit of time packing the bare minimum for an overnighter so have a moment on the laptop; ordered a set of Sebring mirrors; chrome  :o

Oh and these tear drops should be a lót better when driving with the windows down; the OEM mirrors force turbulent air in between them and the windscreen frame.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Nvy on September 12, 2019, 10:55
Quote from: Petrus on September 12, 2019, 09:23The gf is taking a bit of time packing the bare minimum for an overnighter so have a moment on the laptop; ordered a set of Sebring mirrors; chrome  :o

Oh and these tear drops should be a lót better when driving with the windows down; the OEM mirrors force turbulent air in between them and the windscreen frame.

Please report the visibility because i rly like the looks of these :)) with rear view mirror and these should be enough.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 12, 2019, 14:20
Quote from: Nvy on September 12, 2019, 10:55Please report the visibility because i rly like the looks of these :)) with rear view mirror and these should be enough.

Since I have taken the interior mirror out that is indeed a thing.
If it is a bit limited I will simply have to drive a bit faster so it becomes less relevant ;-)

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Nvy on September 12, 2019, 15:43
Quote from: Petrus on September 12, 2019, 14:20
Quote from: Nvy on September 12, 2019, 10:55Please report the visibility because i rly like the looks of these :)) with rear view mirror and these should be enough.

Since I have taken the interior mirror out that is indeed a thing.
If it is a bit limited I will simply have to drive a bit faster so it becomes less relevant ;-)



That is exactly my thought when there are inexperienced drivers on the road with me. If I pass them fast enough they will give me less headache to try to read their actions. :D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 21, 2019, 17:15
Took the media player unit out; 2.8 kg.
The speakers will go when I get the mirrors. No sense in taking the door cards out twice.

The parcel shelf is still resisting me; can´t properly get to the nuts of the hinges  :-[

The flip-up petrol cap is still in delivery limbo; courier can´t find the farm, does not call me either and since seller uses the ebay service, I can´t get to the courier either. Why do I still úse ebay??  >:D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 24, 2019, 10:46
Meanwhile mirrors not arrived yet and petrol cap still???

Will source the steering wheel in a brick & mortar shop  >:D

Fínally succeeded in getting the parcel shelf out thanks to the forum: I would never have púlled the shelf from the hinge.
It weighs 1.6 kilos.

With the 2.8 from the entertainment thing, that is a surprising 4.4 kilos.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 25, 2019, 09:20
Quote from: Nvy on September 12, 2019, 10:55Please report the visibility because i rly like the looks of these :)) with rear view mirror and these should be enough.

They were at the post office this morning and... they are tíny.

Superleegero, cool shape and bling crome. Fingers crossed they will fit over the gaping hole the OEM ones leave.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Nvy on September 25, 2019, 09:53
Quote from: Petrus on September 25, 2019, 09:20
Quote from: Nvy on September 12, 2019, 10:55Please report the visibility because i rly like the looks of these :)) with rear view mirror and these should be enough.

They were at the post office this morning and... they are tíny.

Superleegero, cool shape and bling crome. Fingers crossed they will fit over the gaping hole the OEM ones leave.

I checked on google and porsche guys are using them. They are rly small thats i was wondering for the visibility.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 25, 2019, 10:24
Quote from: Nvy on September 25, 2019, 09:53I checked on google and porsche guys are using them.

The design originates from the sixties italian sports cars, p.e. the Lamborghini Miura and became a véry popular after market sports upgrade, esp. in matt black.
They were thin gauge sheet metal then. They cán still be found but €€€€

(https://image.iol.co.za/image/1/process/620x349?source=https://inm-baobab-prod-eu-west-1.s3.amazonaws.com/public/inm/media/file/1/1161094/1319100378/image/1194739842.jpg)

Nope.
Unless you close the hole, respay the door panel, there is NO WAY they fit.
Still 850 gramms per door taking the speakers out.
Will use the Vitalonis on the DAF.

So that is 4.4 plus 1.7 so still 6.1 kilos.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 26, 2019, 11:36
Quote from: shnazzle on May  7, 2019, 18:06Jesus that's a fair amount of weight saved!
You haven't even really removed that much

I think it is the little bits adding up on top of the heftier stuff.
Just look at this past week. Did not do much, still over 6 kilos.
It all adds up.

Should be an 8xx on the scales now.
Hope to do a repeat weigh in end of oktober.
Só looking forward to seeing 8xx, ány xx :-)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 2, 2019, 10:55
Fitted the chrome pinnacle and heater pod rings:


(https://myalbum.com/photo/uxsyBQzhyiyZ/1k0.jpg)

(https://myalbum.com/photo/eA8dXcAAJZ2m/1k0.jpg)


Refitted the OEM chrome gear knob. The Pokeball looked way wrong withe chrome accents.

Also took the silicon bathroom floor mats out and put car matts in. These underline the increased floor space big time. They fitted slugly with the carpet in and now they have 7 cm.!!! on either side.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 24, 2019, 19:13
Meanwhile, last week, passed MoT.
Observation about slighty wobbly front discs.

Beforehand put a lot of stuff back; the lot in the front, OEM cat/muffler, seats.
And afterwards lightened the mood again.

Decat midpipe with O2 sensor distance piece fitted. The welded in motorcycle non-muffler is now all metal.
Engine oil/filter changed, gearbox oil changed.
Left the nappy off this time. None too pleased about it, but it does seem to run cooler and it should make it easier to fínally fit the diffuser thingy. Ah and it does weigh sómething  8)

So, that thingy is one on the to-do list.
The flip up fuel cap is still awol; issue open with ebay.
Also waiting for the local wrap guy to call me about chrome wrapping the mirrors and windscreen frame.
Álso waiting for the steering wheel / boss.

Oh, today first ride with the metal non-muffler and also first time Mountain Girl in the buckets.
I will not write what she said about the seat when we rolled off the path as I prefer to avoid a ban so I immediately put a lid on that: If she thought about ány more complaints she should get out NÓW!  >:(
Down the mountains, at the coast she observed she had a blue bum but that she was not complaining, simply stating that I could kiss the damage when in bed... Ok, thát I can live with  ;) Next she topped that by paying for lunch  :o

Back to Belle; revs freely, is loúd and runs so much cooler in the back; a world of difference.
Looking forward to put her on the weigh bridge.

Oh, the guys in the garage noticed I had taken the interior mirror off the windscreen. They though it brilliant; blind spot in front deleted! Ever so obvious but théy had not thought of it they said.
So, were they going to take it out of theír cars?
No, the missus, also driving the car, would not approve they said.
Well; I sorted that with the power steering delete, I said  ;D
A laughing fit followed.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 26, 2019, 11:41
Late yesterday evening; ´Petrúúúússs???´
A courier with a parcel.
Was the steering wheel  :)

Fitted it this morning.
A bit of a fafffffff.
The SMT connector needs be unplugged and that álso has the horn feed.
The boss does fit without having to mod the plug but I don´t have the female thngamy to connets the horn inside the plug. Can´t solder as that would make refitting the OEM hoop for MoT a pita.
Since the car is louder than the horn anyway...
Turned out that the horn button provided by Sparco does not fit their own steering wheel. The céntre does but that disables the horn. Stroke of luck I had already decided to go without.

The rest was a doddle.

It is thinner and a bit smaller; only some 2 cm. but because the rim is thinner it feels like you have more leverage. Dito because the underside has dimples. No dimples though where you hold the wheel when driving. Véry comfortable.
Additional comfort are the 2 cm. of extra leg space.
The look is all I dared hope for too; phew  :-*
Lóve it!

Took it out for an extra spin past the air strip.
There is a combined lightweight/model airplane event and my son went thataway at dawn.


(https://myalbum.com/photo/2RJgR5vz9uf5/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/9QQa7t25hcJS/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/3CVn2BAzGHeo/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/fTf4ULLKKrZs/1k0.jpg)

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on October 26, 2019, 13:53
Liking that.

As a side observation. The seats look better in the the second pic, than when you took the pic of the seats. Think the light reveals more contours.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 26, 2019, 15:24
I think Belle bégs to be photographed by yoú Jason  ;)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on October 26, 2019, 17:33
I would love to.
As much as I would like to sample what a lightened 2 feels like.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 26, 2019, 18:13
Quote from: Ardent on October 26, 2019, 17:33I would love to.
As much as I would like to sample what a lightened 2 feels like.

...and don´t forget direct steering ;-)

Next time you are in the south we´ll work something out.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on October 26, 2019, 22:41
Was very nearly going to be next week, but things have not quite gone to plan.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 31, 2019, 11:39
Weighed on the bridge today. It´s one for trucks so rounds off to the next 10 kg. meaning she is 895 - 900... Darn; had hoped on an 8 on the display but on the other hand 900 looks top.
Will faff with little things as I encounter them no doubt, but this is pretty much it.

The weight on the registration papers:

(https://myalbum.com/photo/CshnG0YrSjl6/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/xjhBFcdSsKkh/1k0.jpg)

So, that leaves:
- rear diffuser STILL :-(
- tsurikawa
- underdrive pulley
- flip up tank cap if that ever arives
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 31, 2019, 16:48
One down:

(https://myalbum.com/photo/jELJx2K3XjdP/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/32xmYPwizTkQ/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 1, 2019, 09:38
Will no doubt keep faffing with little things of very little consequences but/thus Belle has reached, pretty much exceeded, the goals:

350 lbs of weight lost, some 15%
10% power gained
and the small areo mods have noticeably improved highway stability

Still surprisingly close to the original car, just a bit less understeer and everything more direct, quicker, more responsive yet less nervous. All in all easier to drive and fuel economy has improved markedly.

Looking forward to Jason taking her for a spin.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on November 1, 2019, 13:02
Jase needs to get to Malaga 1st.
Could be a while.  :D
But cheers for the offer.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 5, 2019, 10:27
(https://myalbum.com/photo/3GXPafgf8itD/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/dguqrcxxmpwK/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on November 5, 2019, 11:03
So now I know what a tsurikawa looks like and what it is ( with the help of the www).



Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 5, 2019, 11:11
Quote from: Joesson on November  5, 2019, 11:03So now I know what a tsurikawa looks like and what it is ( with the help of the www).





It´s just a bit of fun; basically what these cars are too ;-)

What I like as an added value is the tongue in cheek ´finger´ to the man without the man getting that.

The lower exhaust support is spot on to hang it from.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on November 5, 2019, 11:19
Go careful Petrus, you could be starting on a slippery slope after all your work to add lightness the louvre panel and now the tsurikawa are ADDED WEIGHT!

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 5, 2019, 11:32
Quote from: Joesson on November  5, 2019, 11:19Go careful Petrus, you could be starting on a slippery slope after all your work to add lightness the louvre panel and now the tsurikawa are ADDED WEIGHT!



I know, I know, there is a lightweight underdrive alternator pulley to make good coming this way.

Also contemplating to buy a box of assorted aluminium nuts-n-bolts as I have been out of the most current sizes for yéars. Bugs me on the bicycles. Black anodised it draws no attention but yoú know it´s there even though it can hardly be called even the most marginal of gains on a car ;-)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Nvy on November 5, 2019, 11:53
Does not reach the ground, not drift worthy car :D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 5, 2019, 12:05
Quote from: Nvy on November  5, 2019, 11:53Does not reach the ground, not drift worthy car :D

Thát´ll teach me for not lowering my car :-O
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Topdownman on November 5, 2019, 12:16
You are not going to be able to tow anything with that!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 14, 2019, 09:55
(https://myalbum.com/photo/wDwtP3oWWARd/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 14, 2019, 11:16
It´s a year now that I have the car.
Done 12K kms., more than 10 of which top down.

Summing up the mods:
Just under 900 kilos.
Breathing way more freely through decucted bell mouth and flowing freely straight through.
Slightly less understeered surefooted on AD08 shod Enkeis.
Also more stable with subtle aero mods and without the electric p.a.s.

Dreaming of a TTE turbo or TRD compressor but since the thing is surprisingly quick; say 15% less mass and 10% more to push that,  it best stays dreaming.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 15, 2019, 22:27
And now dipped/main 80%/100% more light according to Hella  8)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 26, 2019, 18:59
A set of new crushables fitted between manifold and flexi pipes.

Next is the Silly Big Wing.



Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 28, 2019, 13:04
(https://myalbum.com/photo/peZGzmzvbZto/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/LUzgUwTvehni/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/MyWh4Yd3XEVd/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/e842S3scDwDp/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on November 28, 2019, 13:10
That isn't actually that bad of a BGW. It's quite subdued actually
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Nvy on November 29, 2019, 11:17
A question on the wing placement, why did you fit it so much forward?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 29, 2019, 11:54
Quote from: Nvy on November 29, 2019, 11:17A question on the wing placement, why did you fit it so much forward?

The supports are where they are because I want the downward force as close to the rear axle as possible.
The rear edge is where I want it; because of the 3D design it needs ti sit in the downward flow behind the cabin ánd I also want it to coincide with the rubber lip. It coúld have gone up to 5 cm further back for the latter but a secondary reason is keeping the rear edge of the sideplates from sticking out. That is just not safe; for bumping into them and the rear view.
Also having it tthose few cms further back looks less neat imo.

Meanwhile sunny weather and a spare moment so went out for a coffee and a spin. Top up the rear window view is even more limited so taking the interior mirror out extra vindicated.
The sideplates are hardly in the view in the side mirrors.  The further back the more they restrict that view.
Will go for a bit of highway with the top down in a moment.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 29, 2019, 13:54
Back at the farm again. Combined the ride with some errants.
The overall impression is a marked improvement in stability. It appéars that from some 80 km/h the front is less nervous but this stems from less turbulence at the rear. That is as expected/hoped for.

Nó wind noise sofar.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on November 29, 2019, 14:46
Entry in Captains Log: Maiden "flight" completed successfully.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 30, 2019, 08:24
Quote from: Joesson on November 29, 2019, 14:46Entry in Captains Log: Maiden "flight" completed successfully.

Lóve that :-)

Will be flying to the coast this afternoon, back up tomorrow; luxury prolem; girlfriend management.
First some hurried winter preps on the farm as before first light Monday morning I am off to the hospital for some more titanium bits.
Hence the gf management; they both want to be max. involved and that is potentially a case of more being less.
Going to be ´fun´ btw; a zip line of staples and the bucket seats.
My original plan was to self drive to the hospital and ditto back Wednesday but I have been convinced not to. Hence the ... yes, you get the idea; both want to etc. and my son is still a few months from getting his drivers license.
Anyway, first disconnect, dismantle, cover some water equiment as the serious frost will be here next week.
Then... fly away, fly away-ay...

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on November 30, 2019, 10:50
Hope the operation goes well.Not sure if titanium is lighter than bone but I believe it is stronger in most respects and won't add too much to the laden weight of De Kikker. You might want to consider a cushion for extra padding on your homeward journey. Good luck.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 30, 2019, 12:03
(https://myalbum.com/photo/JCE6pDCSp2iv/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 28, 2019, 12:03
The lightweight side plates to the wing are on! Fingers crossed that they are strong enough.

Almost 1 kilo lighter. The whole assembly is 3.4 kilos now.
I may replace the alumium struts with impregnated multiplex later on (aerogel would be übercool but still way to expensive). Just for the heck of it, to get the thing under 3 kilos.

Unfortunately the lid still does not pop open  :'(
What a pita.

(https://myalbum.com/photo/NnYPecRKjsFK/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on December 28, 2019, 15:27
@Petrus  said:     "Unfortunately the lid still does not pop open  :'( "

I believe I suggested when you first mentioned this lack of "pop" that, just maybe, the bump stops under the lid could be adjusted upwards a little to help the lid in it's upward motion.
Otherwise, you may need gas struts as  several members have used.
The struts, of course, would be a weight addition, contrary to Petrus's first rule of automobile engineering. But then, you have already strayed from the path of lightweightness when you ADDED the wing!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 28, 2019, 16:08
Quote from: Joesson on December 28, 2019, 15:27@Petrus  said:     "Unfortunately the lid still does not pop open  :'( "

I believe I suggested when you first mentioned this lack of "pop" that, just maybe, the bump stops under the lid could be adjusted upwards a little to help the lid in it's upward motion.
Otherwise, you may need gas struts as  several members have used.
The struts, of course, would be a weight addition, contrary to Petrus's first rule of automobile engineering. But then, you have already strayed from the path of lightweightness when you ADDED the wing!

I´ve not looked closely at the rubbers, but now will.
Will lubricate the hinges and the latch ánd look at the wubbahs.
The two combined might just be the ticket.

As to rule of adding lightness, indeed I have sinned:

- volt meter and usb port panel
- louvred console panel
- two aero rubber strips
- wing
- front strut brace
- Boris´ belly brace
- Dev´s door spacers
- Carolyn´s head support

If lubricating (or the rubbers) does not work I could try change the release cable to one in the rear vent panel. That way I can help the lid while pulling the release, at the same time short cutting the need to open the door.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on December 28, 2019, 16:48


Confession it is said is good for the soul so there may be some redemption for you now. Maybe your "special olive oil" would help with the necessary lubrication.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 28, 2019, 18:56
Quote from: Joesson on December 28, 2019, 16:48Maybe your "special olive oil" would help with the necessary lubrication.

Oh no, that would be sacrilege!!!
Got all kinds of greases, lubricating oils, WD40 in 3 l. can and KY-gel in 4 kilo pack, so no need to waste the tasty stuff!!


(https://myalbum.com/photo/vp3ntw79CsJb/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on December 28, 2019, 21:11
Sweet Jesus.  :o

That reminds me of oldy worldy castrol 20/50

Any going spare?  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on December 28, 2019, 21:13
Quote from: Petrus on December 28, 2019, 18:56Got all kinds of greases, lubricating oils, WD40 in 3 l. can and KY-gel in 4 kilo pack, so no need to waste the tasty stuff!!
(https://myalbum.com/photo/vp3ntw79CsJb/1k0.jpg)
No Astroglide?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on December 28, 2019, 21:18
Apart from reminiscing as @Ardent  above, that does look like how I would imagine olive juice should look! Probably don't stock that in our local Tesco!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on December 28, 2019, 21:29
@Joesson
You might find it in Waitrose next to the Tuna friendly Dolphin.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on December 28, 2019, 21:45
@Ardent , Thank's, I'll have a look next pension day.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 28, 2019, 22:05
Quote from: Ardent on December 28, 2019, 21:13No Astroglide?

It´s not KY either but a general purpuse water based lubricant used for medical purposes. It was the only one that came in bulk. The pharmacist and assistants stíll have laughing fits about it. Could nót believe it whe they put the box on the counter. Expected me to politely refuse but I was over the moon.
The lady owner asked me what on éarth I did with it so; ´just go out on a date with me ;-) ´
Am already down to the last kilo btw.

Concerning the olive oil that is a tricky subject highly diffused by commercial interest of hype sellers. The further from the source the bigger the spin and price.
The stuff we get over here stays with the members of the coop. It is basically like that all over with all coops. We also get some from micro growers who just have a few eco trees.
It must be noted that this stuff is all VERY outspoken in taste. All very different too. Three different varieties on toast is like three different cheeses on toast. It likewise is highly subjected to taste and also useless for use in any cooking; too ´olivy´. This is why the stuff exported is an easier paletable pressing and blend.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on January 4, 2020, 18:37
Pleased to here your lids "popping" again.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 4, 2020, 18:44
Quote from: Joesson on January  4, 2020, 18:37Pleased to here your lids "popping" again.

Was a good suggestion.
Will need to adjust a bit as the rhs is not flush now.

She was washed too yesterday.
Rather necessary but have a good excuse.
Because of the excuse did not do all that much, basically managed the proceedings of my son and mountain girl.
Then I applied plastic reconditioner/ UV protection to the plastic bits.
I also somewhat sanitized the engine room with oven cleaner.

Fingers crossed I can take her for a spin tomorrow.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on January 4, 2020, 18:53
@Petrus
"I also somewhat sanitized the engine room with oven cleaner."

Mr muscle oven cleaner foam spray per chance?

I've used some to free up sticky turbo vanes on a tdi golf. Superb.

How do you use it in the boiler house engine room?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 4, 2020, 19:04
Quote from: Ardent on January  4, 2020, 18:53@Petrus
"I also somewhat sanitized the engine room with oven cleaner."

Mr muscle oven cleaner foam spray per chance?

I've used some to free up sticky turbo vanes on a tdi golf. Superb.

How do you use it in the boiler house engine room?

Dunno the brand. It is a liquid dipersed by hand pump. There is a minute gauze screen in front of the aperture and that ´foams´ the liquid.
I take the screen off and spray the liquid liberally all over the place. Let it soak for 10 minutes and then spray it all off with water; holding my finger on the hose to controll the spray/jet.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on January 4, 2020, 20:22
This is the stuff I'm on about.
https://www.mrmuscleclean.com/en-gb/products/kitchen/mr-muscle-oven-cleaner

I wonder if this is somewhat stronger than, what you are using. I would not be spraying this all over the place.
Very good were it was used though. Broke down and freed the vanes from the carbon build up.
Def a gloves n googles product, when outside and random breeze.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 4, 2020, 21:57
Quote from: Ardent on January  4, 2020, 20:22This is the stuff I'm on about.
https://www.mrmuscleclean.com/en-gb/products/kitchen/mr-muscle-oven-cleaner

I wonder if this is somewhat stronger than, what you are using. I would not be spraying this all over the place.
Very good were it was used though. Broke down and freed the vanes from the carbon build up.
Def a gloves n googles product, when outside and random breeze.

That one is highly corrosive. The one I used définitely not as strong.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 5, 2020, 13:59
YESSSS took De Kikker out for a spin.
Well after jump starting that is. I lóath jump starting LiFe but with the help of my son it was a doddle.
With it idling adjusted the rear deck rubbers, lowered the roof and got descended into the bucket, crutches in the passenger space. Thus no, no girl could come with me to great chagrin. Tant pis; wanted to freely enjoy the ride and not having to think about accomodating the company nor had the appetite for the dead certain comentaries.

Was pleasanty surprised how easy, aaaaaallllmost smooth, I could get in. When back closed the top with one arm and could get out suprisingly easy with it closed!!

Anyway, clear blue sky, southern sun and stunning countryside. Whát pure joy. I think anyone with a car like this, driving top down through sunny countryside, be that UK, Germany or Andalucia is a lucky bloke!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on January 5, 2020, 15:42
I do my bit to spread the the word.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 5, 2020, 23:24
btw., now it´s past bed time of the young ones, I can be politicaly incorrect.
On the way back, with all properly hot and lunch time, I turned onto the deserted industrial estate; my ´track´ and naíled it.
The engine revs véry freely all the way up to the red line without slowing down. Yes, the rear has more grip now and is way more tolerant to lifting a bit mid corner, allowing a wider band of steering with the throttle. Lóved it, with two crutches rattling in the passenger seat; hilárious!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 10, 2020, 19:26
Went for a longer ride yesterday. A route I´ve done several times.
Although you don´t really notice the differences individual mods make all thát much, I can say that my car is now markedly different from OEM.
Even discounting any effect of the non restrictive exhaust, the 150 kilos less, somewhat stiffer tub and tighter handling makes for a lót of difference.

On real world public roads, the free exhaling 1ZZ makes for quite quick enough cornering without needing to pussyfoot the pedal with a tight bum.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 29, 2020, 18:02
The rubbers for the injectors are proving a challenge; step one, gétting them is unexpectedly arduous. Untill I have them, the maf mod and polishing the cam cover are on hold. Annoying.

So, to tie me over, ordered foam board in bláck, cut two wing side plates and replaced the pianted black white ones with integrally black ones. Looks the same, is functionally the same, but Í know  O:-)

Gf suggested we go for a ride tomorrow. Hmm. Never know with her. She can be most unfun one day and as much fun another...
Had planned to do the maf mod and the car is rather dirty after some rainy rides. But... the rubbers are not in so will wash-n-wipe De Kikker early in the morning; fingers crossed the girl has a ´dirty´ plan.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 30, 2020, 15:39
A quick rinse, wipe and rolled into the sun.
With the hood sómewhat less chilly, folded it down, gf descended in the bucket and off we went.

Unbelieveable blue winter sky and warming sun in the face we went south, past Alfarnate, Colmenar, only óne car to overtake and with the near obscene grip the wing gives made short work of that dragrace hybrid Jaguar e-pace on the outside through a corner. Then Torre del Mar for lunch ón the beach.

Back up past La Viñuela up to the Boquete de Zafarraya. Two cars; a hot hatch, no delay again through a corner and a cement truck who´s driver saw me coming and gave beyond reasonble way on a straight bit. Waved thanks, he hooted and on we went.
It is a véry twisty climb, the last 6 kms a real challenge to do flowingly and is was a singing joy. 
Going uphill you can push a lot harder than downhill as gravity is your friend if you´d  overcook it but again daft traction.
Those 6 kms of assorted corners, hairpins and whatnots are lined with half a meter high, spaced, stone blocks separating the black bit from the precipice.
The bark of the exhaust alternately reflecting wááóóp, wóp, wóp, wóp, downshift, brápp, throwing it though the bend, upshift and the wááóóp, wóp etc again. Repeat.

The car is só well balanced now. The free breathing giving responsiveness which is a joy in combo with the ever so easy smt in the mountains. Looking forward to any improvement the mafmod may give.

Gf was uttahly unphased, enjoying the sun she said...
Altough I really enjoyed myself, her biggest ´worry´ was about high heels and the somewhat muddy car park at the beach...


(https://myalbum.com/photo/fJnHc6UfRWWB/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 6, 2020, 18:14
Having a few ´commitments´ this week.

Sunny weather so topless Kikker, chilly wind though so no topless gfs. The idea was for  ;) fotos with their local Osborne Toro but alas.
The Fuengirola was a NoNo anyway because the access road had been washed out, leaving a not so nice view from between the surrounding highrise flats as the only option. Even without wind I would not have wasted the offer there O:-) 


(https://myalbum.com/photo/Y2kJ5YHYbW3E/1k0.jpg)


This morning picked up the next commitment. Different Toro, perfect location, but still chilly wind, again best keep the offer standing.


(https://myalbum.com/photo/p3VAvYJLiGrh/1k0.jpg)



Apart from the commitments had a véry .... well, satisfying experience on the main traffic artery around Málaga: Two motorcycle Guardia Civil form the Trafico department drove up the highway some 100 meters behind us.
Now those are the bad guys on the lookout to write fines.
I feathered the loud pedal to minumum db level.
The front one came up fást and pulled up parallel while his collegue positioned his bike behind us.
The car, us were looked over, looked at intensely and he pulled away, followed by his mate.
Phew.
Éxtra phew actually because this was the óne time in yéars that I had forgotten my wallet and papers....
Not 2 kms ahead they directed two cars to the side.
The ´satisfying´  bit being that they appearantly thought it all ok.

Mind, I get a lót of positive responses; yesterday first a car drew parallel so the kids could film with their phones, later when parked two mums asked us if their kids could pose with the anime figure for a photo and today we had an assortment of ´thumbs up´.
Nice enough ofcourse but nót being pulled over by specialist fine writers tops it :-)



p.s. just shared the second photo with Saturday commitment. She thought it typical Andalucían. I observed that it missed a typical Andalucían girl. She voluteered. Only detail is that there is no Toro near her.  I´ll think of something ;-) 
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 7, 2020, 17:44
Cap Weir´s MAF mod. is in.
The eagle eyed will spot the alu spacer.
Started ok, not driven it yet.


(https://myalbum.com/photo/GE6qD5co4Jd8/1k0.jpg)

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 12, 2020, 19:27
Done some 300 kms with it now.
In the mountains, at the coast, in between; over B-roads, highway, in traffic.

Never mind the handful of horses at the top end; the increase in response and pulling power in mid range are the main gain. It makes for a more gutsy, even easier to drive 1ZZ.

The down side is the starting. Mine was always at the first move of the crank, now it sometimes needs a few seconds.

On the whole it is like driving in a lower gear with the progress of the higher gear or in other words like with a larger engine.
Sofar I am véry pleased with the result.



Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 13, 2020, 17:43
Despite véry enticing ´arguments´ and arguments from Málaga Girl, had to go up into the mountains.
The pass over the water and climate divide has a last climb of several kilometers of 8%. Two kms before the top is a looooong corner swooping firts right then left to hook up to two lanes from the toll road, in effect being a slight corner to the right.
Near the top, the roud splits; two lanes going north, two east. I go east.

As traffic opens up where the two lanes double into four (hardly if any cars on the toll road), the norm is dropping a cog into fourth halfway the junction at about 100 km/h and floor it.
It is about the ónly place where I sometimes, when traffic thwarts the plan, wish for a turbo.

Pre maf mod I´d be at 125-130 km/h at the split near the top. (There I lift and go 120.)
Today 140  :o  No, no wind.
Noticed that the engine responds better to full throttle now whereas slightly feeding from 3/4 throttle got the better result before.

Rather  8)


On a side note. I travelled the Málaga circular road, the main traffic artery at  around 11.00. 
It is on average 8 lanes, 4  either direction. It was all but empty. Near the split towards the toll road, it is 10 lanes and I had no, NO! car in sight ahead. I was almost seduced to take a photo.
Takes a superhuman effort to stick to the 100 km/h maximum then.

On a side note to the side note. The toll road mentioned; from La Pedrizas to Málaga, the AP46, is a work of art. It is a combination of bridges and tunnels. Totally superfluous but a work of art.
Have not yet travelled it with the MR2. That says enough really; no need.  Will do so shortly, before prices go up for the season. It ís worth the ride.

(http://www.pueblosdemalaga.com/fotos/autopista_pedrizas_ap46.JPG)
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pueblosdemalaga.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F01%2Fautopista_pedrizas_ap46_cerca.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ap46.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F07%2F06_quienes_somos1-1024x260.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 17, 2020, 11:48
At the far end of an áwesome touge road...


(https://myalbum.com/photo/TTuHYjiRgHoX/1k0.jpg)


I live in the foothills of the mountains in the mist in the background.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 24, 2020, 13:11
Added two chrome details.

(https://myalbum.com/photo/PzzBjYip3Myu/1k0.jpg)

Feeling quite at ´home´ now.

(https://myalbum.com/photo/G7zZLBExVbd2/1k0.jpg)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4079/4818548725_ff5abcbb04_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 28, 2020, 19:16
A short memo-pauze; the gf is preparing herself for the night out.

An Osborne Bull in Huelva province:


(https://myalbum.com/photo/EnjkFvkcHC7T/1k0.jpg)


and the ADULT version; NOT FOR OFFICE/HOME!!!!


https://myalbum.com/photo/bGSnwpTyxtQa/1k0.jpg
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 3, 2020, 13:27
Fitted Carolyn´s wind deflectors today:

(https://myalbum.com/photo/JagAc5vvT2Vq/1k0.jpg)

The adult version Warning: Explicit nudity. Do not open if nudity offends

https://myalbum.com/photo/hW2SUMaug3UN/1k0.jpg
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 3, 2020, 18:44
Btw.  look two posts up at the Alfa Spider windows;  the deflectors are pure classic. Just lacking a chrome edge ;-)

Thus....

... bought me some of this

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51G%2B5iaJ5CL.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Call the midlife! on March 3, 2020, 21:14
You'll have to make that trim strip semi permanent, ie stick it on with something, comes off all the time otherwise.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 4, 2020, 09:58
Quote from: Call the midlife! on March  3, 2020, 21:14You'll have to make that trim strip semi permanent, ie stick it on with something, comes off all the time otherwise.

Yeah, you can´t have that; things coming off all the time. Semi permanent strip sound good though; you nailed it ;-)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on March 4, 2020, 11:21
Quote from: Petrus on March  4, 2020, 09:58
Quote from: Call the midlife! on March  3, 2020, 21:14You'll have to make that trim strip semi permanent, ie stick it on with something, comes off all the time otherwise.

Yeah, you can´t have that; things coming off all the time. Semi permanent strip sound good though; you nailed it ;-)

Colloquial expressions sometimes aren't the surest way to convey information. "Nailing" the bling strips into place may not be the "best" means of a semi permanent fixing in this case.😉
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 4, 2020, 11:33
Quote from: Joesson on March  4, 2020, 11:21Colloquial expressions sometimes aren't the surest way to convey information. "Nailing" the bling strips into place may not be the "best" means of a semi permanent fixing in this case.😉


Aye, but in the context of semi strip?

Just a drop of hobby glue on either end will attach the chrome rim well enough. Think, hópe it will make the deflectors look a bit cooler retro in line with the rest of the interior chrome accents. Free shipping from HongKong may take while though.

Btw. how are those small windows at the A-pillar; tocht-raampje in Dutch, called in English.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Carolyn on March 4, 2020, 11:53
Quote from: Petrus on March  4, 2020, 11:33
Quote from: Joesson on March  4, 2020, 11:21Colloquial expressions sometimes aren't the surest way to convey information. "Nailing" the bling strips into place may not be the "best" means of a semi permanent fixing in this case.😉


Aye, but in the context of semi strip?

Just a drop of hobby glue on either end will attach the chrome rim well enough. Think, hópe it will make the deflectors look a bit cooler retro in line with the rest of the interior chrome accents. Free shipping from HongKong may take while though.

Btw. how are those small windows at the A-pillar; tocht-raampje in Dutch, called in English.
Quarter-lights.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 4, 2020, 12:25
Quote from: Carolyn on March  4, 2020, 11:53
Quote from: Petrus on March  4, 2020, 11:33Btw. how are those small windows at the A-pillar; tocht-raampje in Dutch, called in English.
Quarter-lights.

Thank you.
I was afraid nobody of the present car gen. would remember. They went extinct 40 years or so ago?
With the current day speed limits eliminating wind noise they would be gréat again for venting the modern hot-house design cars.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Call the midlife! on March 4, 2020, 13:10
Ignore the dash pod but it seems this is the only photo I have of the vents with the (unstuck) trims.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on March 4, 2020, 15:41
Quote from: Petrus on March  4, 2020, 12:25
Quote from: Carolyn on March  4, 2020, 11:53
Quote from: Petrus on March  4, 2020, 11:33Btw. how are those small windows at the A-pillar; tocht-raampje in Dutch, called in English.
Quarter-lights.

Thank you.
I was afraid nobody of the present car gen. would remember. They went extinct 40 years or so ago?
With the current day speed limits eliminating wind noise they would be gréat again for venting the modern hot-house design cars.

Quarter lights were fitted on the Austin A30 I learnt to drive in, 1962/3, test delayed because of the "exceptional" winter weather. Previous to that my Father had an old Ford (iirc) that had the wiper motor at the top of the windscreen on the inside, together with hinges, and a screw and crank handle at bottom centre of the windscreen to open / raise the bottom edge of the windscreen for ventilation.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 4, 2020, 15:49
Following ´quarter light´ found synonyms quarter window, vent window, valence light.
Anyway, a chrome edge will smarten it up imo.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 6, 2020, 13:28
Just up the road here, júst over into Granada province.
A natual salt ´lick´ where the mineral rock salt comes up. You can literaly pick it up by the kilo.
The tower structure goes back to moorish times and where the collected clumps were stored.


(https://myalbum.com/photo/PqmtwntwdM3w/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 6, 2020, 13:31
(https://myalbum.com/photo/qxnGyproi7fo/1k0.jpg)

(https://myalbum.com/photo/D6eoGdWTtMDx/1k0.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Nvy on March 6, 2020, 15:07
The car looks really mean, love it!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 6, 2020, 15:25
Quote from: Nvy on March  6, 2020, 15:07The car looks really mean, love it!

Thanks.
The last photo perfectly illustrates the why of the 3D wing shape btw.

Álso made clear by several of my snapshots is that any lowering of my car or buying a ´proper´ sports car would see me grounded most times I take De Kikker for a spin. Ofcourse differnent use would effectively sort that but it would also effectively curtail how I like to use the car; as a runabout where I live. That includes local roads with lots of crown, ruts and potholes, even stretches of camino. Well, ánd my own access track; see the deflector photo ánd both bull snaps.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 8, 2020, 10:20
Sound tracks.

Accellerating:

8 mar. 10.00.mp3

The Doppler effect flying by the girl at a P at the highway. First a coach then the MR2 at about 170 km/h.  This also illustrates the lével of decibels relative to .... a coach passing:

8 mar. 9.55.mp3
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on March 8, 2020, 10:33
Apologies if its me, but might have uploaded same file twice. 2x acceleration.
No doppler.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on March 8, 2020, 12:56
Crikey Petrus, that flyby sounds like you're doing closer to 200kph! 
Very motorcycle-esque
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 8, 2020, 13:03
Quote from: shnazzle on March  8, 2020, 12:56Crikey Petrus, that flyby sounds like you're doing closer to 200kph!
Very motorcycle-esque

Ok, I admit, it was more than 170 ... but, to my defense; I did write flý by ;-)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 10, 2020, 18:55
Today was Brembo day: New front discs and pads.
They needed surprising little breaking in. Straight from the go the brake pedal was more direct.
The discs needed replacing because they were running a bit out of true. Meaning the pads were pushed slightly back and that is noticeable.
After just a few hárd brakings they slow down as before already but with more feel and will no doubt bed in better.
Happy with the choice. No bíte, simply linear with a lot of feel.

MR2Brembo1.jpg
MR2Brembo2.jpg



Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 8, 2020, 18:59
Fínally!
No not been out for a spin; stil total lockdown here; a réal one.

Changed the two rusty bolts on the manifold heat shield for shiny ones. Also the three visible ones on the valve cover.
Should not fail to mention the significant  8) side effect; it saved 25 gramms....


MR2Titanium1.jpg
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on April 8, 2020, 19:12
@Petrus , are those lightweight washers on the heat shield? Are they proprietary or something you've created in your search for maximum weight saving?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 8, 2020, 19:32
Quote from: Joesson on April  8, 2020, 19:12@Petrus , are those lightweight washers on the heat shield? Are they proprietary or something you've created in your search for maximum weight saving?

Featherweight washers yes.
I úsed to make them myself Beart style in alumium and steel when titanium goodies were still beyond imagination and rocket stuff only.*
Since lightweight stuff on bicycles is now really gone ridiculous, I looked for it there and to my surprise found them in various sources.
If you enter ´M8 titanium´ in ebay, google, duckduck et all you are sure to find them. Ditto anodised alumium.

* funnily enough it was the end of the cold war that made titanium almost a surplus good but it still took glasnost for it to become non strategic and affordable because of the vast russian stock/production.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on April 8, 2020, 21:49
Quote from: Petrus on April  8, 2020, 19:32
Quote from: Joesson on April  8, 2020, 19:12@Petrus , are those lightweight washers on the heat shield? Are they proprietary or something you've created in your search for maximum weight saving?

Featherweight washers yes.
I úsed to make them myself Beart style in alumium and steel when titanium goodies were still beyond imagination and rocket stuff only.*
Since lightweight stuff on bicycles is now really gone ridiculous, I looked for it there and to my surprise found them in various sources.
If you enter ´M8 titanium´ in ebay, google, duckduck et all you are sure to find them. Ditto anodised alumium.

* funnily enough it was the end of the cold war that made titanium almost a surplus good but it still took glasnost for it to become non strategic and affordable because of the vast russian stock/production.

If you could have got titanium back then you would likely have found it very difficult to work with conventional high speed steel tools. My one experience with working that material was in 1977 when we made an industrial size Barbecue grill for the Queen's  Jubilee party. It was a joint effort from the 49 households on our estate, everyone put in their expertise and sourced materials. The stainless sheets came from a guy that worked at British Steel the Barbeque tools were made with Stainless steel shafts and titanium forks and spatula. I made bamboo handles and put it all together which required drilling the titanium. Not an easy job.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 8, 2020, 23:07
Quote from: Joesson on April  8, 2020, 21:49If you could have got titanium back then you would likely have found it very difficult to work with conventional high speed steel tools.

Found out later when is was.
Tried drilling a head for locking wire... ónce. Spent the extra and boúght them drilled if that needed be.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on April 9, 2020, 09:05
Quote from: Petrus on April  8, 2020, 23:07
Quote from: Joesson on April  8, 2020, 21:49If you could have got titanium back then you would likely have found it very difficult to work with conventional high speed steel tools.

Found out later when is was.
Tried drilling a head for locking wire... ónce. Spent the extra and boúght them drilled if that needed be.

That's learning by experience!👍
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Smithy on April 21, 2020, 13:44
Quote from: Petrus on April  8, 2020, 18:59Fínally!
No not been out for a spin; stil total lockdown here; a réal one.

Changed the two rusty bolts on the manifold heat shield for shiny ones. Also the three visible ones on the valve cover.
Should not fail to mention the significant  8) side effect; it saved 25 gramms....


MR2Titanium1.jpg


That cam cover polished up nicely too. I want to have a go at mine some time.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 21, 2020, 13:54
Quote from: Smithy on April 21, 2020, 13:44That cam cover polished up nicely too. I want to have a go at mine some time.

Thanks but to be honest I just wiped it with degreaser and plastic ´brillo´ pad when I had it off. As I was going to put the plastic cover of the cover back on, I thought that was nice enough ;-)

Don´t like that black plastic slab one bit but it does keep the coils dry. So still pondering about what is possible to make it less drab.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 30, 2020, 14:40
Eagerly awaiting:
- Quick release battery conection.
- Safety belt pads.
- Wheel nuts.
- Inlet elbow and bellmouth.

Looked at hose clips on the web because the normal screw tyoe is so .... normal.
Found the ultimate steampunk clips!!! Fingers crossed I can buy just a few.

(https://www.zeroclips.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/604x779/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/2/7/27spg_ht_quick_release_band_clamp.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on April 30, 2020, 17:58
Quote from: Petrus on April 30, 2020, 14:40Eagerly awaiting:
- Quick release battery conection.
- Safety belt pads.
- Wheel nuts.
- Inlet elbow and bellmouth.

Looked at hose clips on the web because the normal screw tyoe is so .... normal.
Found the ultimate steampunk clips!!! Fingers crossed I can buy just a few.

(https://www.zeroclips.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/604x779/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/2/7/27spg_ht_quick_release_band_clamp.jpg)

So now we know why you  were so keen at first to reduce the weight of your 2 -

So that you can fit these aesthetic "goodies" !

I am wondering though just which hose / hoses "need" the addition of these "ultimate steampunk clips" with their inherent ability for quick release.



Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 30, 2020, 18:38
Quote from: Joesson on April 30, 2020, 17:58I am wondering though just which hose / hoses "need" the addition of these "ultimate steampunk clips" with their inherent ability for quick release.


Only óne really; the clip around the inlet rubber on the MAF housing. The lid of the filter box has them too so... píng! it´s functional logic even :-)

No weight penalty yet; the bling bolts/rings replacing the rusty ones, sáved some.

No need for any of it; it´s the theme of how to make the engine room look a bit more pretty. Trying to dress up the drab black valve cover cover too.
As I don´t have the drip tray, you get glimpses of it all through the lid vents.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on April 30, 2020, 19:03
Quote from: Petrus on April 30, 2020, 18:38Only óne really; the clip around the inlet rubber on the MAF housing. The lid of the filter box has them too so... píng! it´s functional logic even :-)

No weight penalty yet; the bling bolts/rings replacing the rusty ones, sáved some.

No need for any of it; it´s the theme of how to make the engine room look a bit more pretty. Trying to dress up the drab black valve cover cover too.
As I don´t have the drip tray, you get glimpses of it all through the lid vents.

Agreed on your choice of position for the hose clips.

Glad to hear no weight increase, some on here may agree that once weight is lost it can be a job to keep it off!

The eyes have it!

I believe it's been done before by Mr Enzo for example but a clear polycarbonate engine cover would save weight and show your quick release kit off!


PS.
Some on here have painted the valve cover and highlighted the lettering..
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 30, 2020, 20:07
Quote from: Joesson on April 30, 2020, 19:03I believe it's been done before by Mr Enzo for example but a clear polycarbonate engine cover would save weight and show your quick release kit off!

Mwah; it is like nude vs lingerie. I like the glimpses through the opening more but then Ferraris are not about subtle ;-)

QuotePS.
Some on here have painted the valve cover and highlighted the lettering..

Would make for a nice seperate thread. Not many popped up on the last thread though.
I am trying to get vinyl wrap stuff to stick. That would give unlimited, well apart from the size, design freedom. You could even get a foto print on it. Not that I am going that wild for the first try... Tried ´The Wave´ but cover shape and location make the image go lost in a mess of confusing details.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on April 30, 2020, 21:00
A wrap was going to be my suggestion.

Hydro dip perhaps? If thats what its called.

I think in principle the choice is limitless. Continuation of the anime theme?
https://vitalhydrographic.co.uk/
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on April 30, 2020, 21:22
Quote from: Ardent on April 30, 2020, 21:00A wrap was going to be my suggestion.

Hydro dip perhaps? If thats what its called.

I think in principle the choice is limitless. Continuation of the anime theme?
https://vitalhydrographic.co.uk/
[/quot
Quote from: Ardent on April 30, 2020, 21:00A wrap was going to be my suggestion.

Hydro dip perhaps? If thats what its called.

I think in principle the choice is limitless. Continuation of the anime theme?
https://vitalhydrographic.co.uk/


Limited, but only by ones imagination!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on April 30, 2020, 21:48
I too was tempted to remove the cam cover cover. So I could polish things up a bit.

That was until @Carolyn pointed out the blindingly obvious I'd overlooked.
Ignition coils etc. Prefer to be dry.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on April 30, 2020, 21:51
Quote from: Ardent on April 30, 2020, 21:48I too was tempted to remove the cam cover cover. So I could polish things up a bit.

That was until @Carolyn pointed out the blindingly obvious I'd overlooked.
Ignition coils etc. Prefer to be dry.


That's 'cos you insist on driving it all year round!

😉
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on April 30, 2020, 21:59
As it was designed to be.
No where in the owners manual does it say. Under no circumstances use between october and end of march.

That aside. There is the risk of washing it during the summer. Guess where that water goes when it goes through the vents. And even more so when you lift the lid to dry the underside and engine bay. :(
Straight on to that cover. Phew!
Maybe more so for me, as I have big hole  for the fan.
:o
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on April 30, 2020, 23:14
As we seem to be departing from the Southern Belle theme, I've started another thread "It's there for a reason" in the "General" section.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 6, 2020, 09:10
MongoChromo.jpg
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on May 6, 2020, 09:49
Yay!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 6, 2020, 10:12
Of the tén things ordered/started since the first days of the confinement, EIGHT!! weeks ago, the least funtional arrived first. Not only that; it´s the only thing arrived/done. Well, almost done; have the battery disconnected so can´t lower the window to push them in correctly.

The stuff is taking so long I am likely to be allowed out for a spin before it´s all on!!  >:D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 12, 2020, 16:01
Right, óne stúff thing arived. The one but latest ordered  :-\

Ah well, at least it´s one thing and I like it  8)

From 45mm OEM bell mouth entry now 90mm and the elbow óver the stub on the filter box instead of inside:

Before:

MR2Inlaat2.jpg

Now:

Inlaathoorn1.jpg
Inlaathoorn2.jpg

From above with the rear light fitted; clears easily:

Inlaathoorn3.jpg


Néxt please!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 12, 2020, 19:43
KlepdekselJapan.jpg


Three engine bay details to go.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 13, 2020, 17:17
Dogbones/subframe solid, magnets still on drain plug



AftapplugMagneet.jpg



Went on an essential errant not leading to large bags to be hauled so took the MR2 out.
Just a handful of kms so no opinion on the intake save for that it adds a nice deep note.
Almost home, the phone rang. Stopped. Samu; his son had seen me on the road, if I could drop by at his workshop. That being at the industrial estate, my ´test track´, I could.
Did not do anything silly but there is no doubt that the engine revs WAY easier into the last 1K revs. 
After the MAF mod the top end seemed more ´sluggish´ because the mid range improved more. No more.
Samu had a neat piece of lightweight signpost material. Stronger than foamboard, just a bit heavier. ´For the wing side plates´ he said.
Anyway, the fatter elbow and matching bell mouth seem to be a good idea.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 16, 2020, 17:29
The foam board side plates are not weather resistant. Made new ones out of billboard; basically the same stuff but with plastic instead of paper outer layers.

Zijplaat1.jpg
Zijplaat2.jpg
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 18, 2020, 19:19
steampunk1.jpgsteampunk2.jpg


Steampunk clip.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on May 18, 2020, 21:48
Quote from: Petrus on May 18, 2020, 19:19steampunk1.jpgsteampunk2.jpg


Steampunk clip.
¿Por que?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 18, 2020, 22:10
Quote from: shnazzle on May 18, 2020, 21:48¿Por que?

Porqué bling bolts instead of rusty ones, why the wrap of the plastic cover; because I líke the looks.
Still two more underhood things coming;  an oil filler cap for bling and a battery quick connect for practical.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on May 18, 2020, 22:16
Quote from: Petrus on May 18, 2020, 22:10
Quote from: shnazzle on May 18, 2020, 21:48¿Por que?

Porqué bling bolts instead of rusty ones, why the wrap of the plastic cover; because I líke the looks.
Still two more underhood things coming;  an oil filler cap for bling and a battery quick connect for practical.
True :) 

It does look quite nifty.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 18, 2020, 22:23
Quote from: shnazzle on May 18, 2020, 22:16It does look quite nifty.

Tatáááá!!!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 21, 2020, 19:29
And another bit of bling:

Olievuldop.jpg
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on May 21, 2020, 20:42
I am not one for bling. But that meets with approval. Clean neat and tidy.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 2, 2020, 19:55
Swapped the crankshaft pulley.
Yet another marginal change. Marginal but noticable. Just that bit crisper.

A bit weird though; only 1 kg. less but it feels like wáy more taken off at the back. Cannot really describe it. Feels more... ´dynamic´  than the almost 20 kg off the exhaust.
Anyway, with all the mods the engine is now befitting the lighter car; the same, just more responsive.


krukaspoelie2.jpg
Krukaspoelie.jpg
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 3, 2020, 17:04
Went down to the coast for some shopping for the first time in three months. Combined with nice lunch at the, largely deserted, beach.

Detour down over winding local mountain roads, detour back up over sweeping provincial roads. Clos to 200 km in total.

Basically no difference at speed through sweeping coners.
Definite difference through the twisties at lower speeds and continous changes in revs. Ok, marginal but still; just that bit crisper gear changes too.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: SV-3 on June 3, 2020, 19:59
Quote from: Petrus on June  3, 2020, 17:04Went down to the coast for some shopping for the first time in three months. Combined with nice lunch at the, largely deserted, beach.

Detour down over winding local mountain roads, detour back up over sweeping provincial roads. Clos to 200 km in total.

Basically no difference at speed through sweeping coners.
Definite difference through the twisties at lower speeds and continous changes in revs. Ok, marginal but still; just that bit crisper gear changes too.

Bet there was no litter left at the beach.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 3, 2020, 20:32
Quote from: SV-3 on June  3, 2020, 19:59Bet there was no litter left at the beach.


They were still busy organising but most places had a litter basket at évery bed and the beach around the bed areas was raked as if a japanese garden.

The car behaved perfectly too.
Even had Mountain Girl produce ... euhmm.. sounds of excitement, sliding around corners. That takes quíte some doing; she was unphased when collecting flowers with her knee and even helmet visor, scraping through corners on the motorbike.

Anyway, still waiting for three bits to arrive, two of which sort of neccessary.  Looks like Schengen toursists wil beat them.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 5, 2020, 09:29
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Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 6, 2020, 16:00
Went for a drive with a ladyfriend from Antequera.
Coffee in Campillos and then a visit to Cortijo de las Mezquitas; a derelict farm built on to a mosque dating Xth century.
There are still two original horse shoe arcs and a dozen wall buttresses left.
Although publicly accessible, it is out in the country, some 6 km from the nearest habitation, 2 km. from the nearest road. That local road ís tarmac but so bad that the average camino is better!
In other quite understandable words; nóbody ÉVER visits the historic building.

The once grand wooden doors had fallen flat inside, the courtyard a mess of overgrown crumbled masonry. The original Mezquita layout is still easy to recognise and one of the two arcs is surprisingly well conserved for such a derelict leaking building taken over by pigeons for décades.

Antequera Girl stood in the alcove when I wanted to take a photo so ´Either you strip naked or move aside.´
Right.... some time later  O:-) ... I took the photo below.

The other is in front of the cortijo and the last one is the view at the oppsite side; the lagunas de Fuente de Piedra.
This also explains the now remote location of the mezquita/farm building. The lake is a salt lake and salt was a valuable commodity.
Today the value lies in the large flamingo colony breeding in the shallow lake.

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Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on June 6, 2020, 17:43
For something so remote it seems to have some well established tyre tracks.

Popular with locals?

Do like old buildings. For some reason doors especially.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 6, 2020, 18:29
Quote from: Ardent on June  6, 2020, 17:43For something so remote it seems to have some well established tyre tracks.

Popular with locals?
 

Agricultural vehicles such a heavy duty tractors and grossly overloaded trailers.
The caminos in that region have very recently been covered with gravel because of floods in autumn/winter making all impassable to beyond the point of dangerous.
Not a km from this track a fireman drowned in a freak accident in which he was caught under the fire truck which toppled over because of the waterlogged soil beside the track.
The tracks are now better than the tarmac roads there!
This particular track was, at the time the mezquita was established, the principal road from the salt winning, past the mezquita to the village now called Campillos and from there connected to a network of ´high ways´.


 
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on June 6, 2020, 19:10
Quote from: Petrus on June  6, 2020, 18:29Not a km from this track a fireman drowned in a freak accident in which he was caught under the fire truck which toppled over because of the waterlogged soil beside the track.
Sad story, but illustrates/supports my statement.
When it's your time, it's your time.
I shall raise a glass in his memory.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: 105e on June 6, 2020, 19:17
I think youde be better of with knobblies  (rally tyres)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 6, 2020, 19:26
Quote from: 105e on June  6, 2020, 19:17I think youde be better of with knobblies  (rally tyres)

Already have two cars prepared for caminos, hence my hankering to prepare a second MR2 too for the camino network here.

With this one though, caminos are perhaps 1% of surface travelled, so maintaining OEM ride hight and being careful is enough. Well, that and maintaining the drive to my own farm :-)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 6, 2020, 19:30
Quote from: Ardent on June  6, 2020, 19:10When it's your time, it's your time.

In the perspective of the mezquita roots; insha'Allah.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on June 6, 2020, 21:44
Agreed. If one subscribes to the concept of a god.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 7, 2020, 10:46
Minor faffing and now it sits as it was meant to; covering the car ready to go with the hood down, ears folded in and all.
The slit for the wing also means that I can cover the car with the engine hot as the vents stay  uncovered  till I close the grommets.
So; park, clean the windscreen, pull cover over, close grommets later. Ready for the next trip.


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Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on June 7, 2020, 11:06
Neat. I like that.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 16, 2020, 12:46
Fitted quick (dis)connect:


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Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on June 16, 2020, 13:04
That "quick (dis)connect" looks heavier than the battery!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 16, 2020, 13:56
Quote from: Joesson on June 16, 2020, 13:04That "quick (dis)connect" looks heavier than the battery!

Go figure how usefull it is with a that much smaller battery.

It´s a handy anti theft thingy too.

The new oil cap is a perfect recepticle to leave the knob.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on June 16, 2020, 14:13
Would you mind rephrasing or explaining your last line ?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 16, 2020, 15:01
The new, longer wheel nuts. The shorter ones are too short to get off. The longer ones being lighter is a happy secondary property.

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@Joesson; I can put the unscrewed knob in/ on top of the oil cap and so never loose track of it.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on June 16, 2020, 15:50
Thank you for that.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on June 16, 2020, 18:40
Quote from: Joesson on June 16, 2020, 14:13Would you mind rephrasing or explaining your last line ?
See post 561
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: jvanzyl on June 16, 2020, 23:00
Quote from: Petrus on June 16, 2020, 15:01The new, longer wheel nuts. The shorter ones are too short to get off. The longer ones being lighter is a happy secondary property.

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Do you have a link to where you got the wheel nuts from?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Topdownman on June 17, 2020, 10:36
Quote from: jvanzyl on June 16, 2020, 23:00
Quote from: Petrus on June 16, 2020, 15:01The new, longer wheel nuts. The shorter ones are too short to get off. The longer ones being lighter is a happy secondary property.



Do you have a link to where you got the wheel nuts from?

Remember, these nuts are for aftermarket wheels with tapered, rather than square seats for the standard wheels.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 17, 2020, 10:50
Quote from: jvanzyl on June 16, 2020, 23:00Do you have a link to where you got the wheel nuts from?

eBay item number: 224034092824
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: jvanzyl on June 17, 2020, 10:50
Quote from: Topdownman on June 17, 2020, 10:36
Quote from: jvanzyl on June 16, 2020, 23:00
Quote from: Petrus on June 16, 2020, 15:01The new, longer wheel nuts. The shorter ones are too short to get off. The longer ones being lighter is a happy secondary property.



Do you have a link to where you got the wheel nuts from?

Remember, these nuts are for aftermarket wheels with tapered, rather than square seats for the standard wheels.

Ah... anyone got a link to these nice light nuts with the square end?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 17, 2020, 10:51
sigh.....
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 19, 2020, 09:09
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a bit too in your face I think but the girls like them  :))
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: tricky1138 on June 19, 2020, 09:11
Quote from: Petrus on June 19, 2020, 09:09Wielmoeren.jpg


a bit too in your face I think but the girls like them  :))

Maybe paint the calipers the same colour?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on June 19, 2020, 10:13
Quote from: tricky1138 on June 19, 2020, 09:11
Quote from: Petrus on June 19, 2020, 09:09Wielmoeren.jpg


a bit too in your face I think but the girls like them  :))

Maybe paint the calipers the same colour?


Or paint the wheels white!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on June 19, 2020, 10:30
Quote from: Joesson on June 19, 2020, 10:13
Quote from: tricky1138 on June 19, 2020, 09:11
Quote from: Petrus on June 19, 2020, 09:09Wielmoeren.jpg


a bit too in your face I think but the girls like them  :))

Maybe paint the calipers the same colour?


Or paint the wheels white!
Paint? Surely that's a few grams. Totally negates the loss of weight from the nuts in the first place!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on June 19, 2020, 10:43
Agreed, but the Red,White and Blue would be symbolic!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 19, 2020, 11:44
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For Joesson (and those who did not dare ask).

Silver and white are/were sometimes considered the same, hence the silver Auto Unions and Mercedes whereas white is/was the German racing colour.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on June 19, 2020, 11:57
@Petrus
Thank you for the picture of your knob and where you keep it when not in use.
Thank you also for the heads up on white / silver, so now you are, figuratively speaking, flying THE Flag.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 2, 2020, 17:57
Added a bit of fun  8)


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Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 1, 2020, 09:10
Rinsed the dust off the car and fitted the véry nice Takata seat belt pads.
So before taking the Doraemons off took a snapshot...


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I líke the Doraemons better actually, more fun, make me smile, but they are cheap pluche fun and the Takata product is simply way more comfortable.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: FredyCro on August 26, 2020, 10:57
What a great topic and read to help me recover from the flu! Found many interesting details, hopefully Ill incorporate some into my build, thank you sharing.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Call the midlife! on August 26, 2020, 11:36
Quote from: Joesson on June 19, 2020, 11:57@Petrus
Thank you for the picture of your knob and where you keep it when not in use.
Thank you also for the heads up on white / silver, so now you are, figuratively speaking, flying THE Flag.

You don't technically have to remove it, just unscrew it so it no longer completes the circuit...
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 26, 2020, 18:45
I know; call it a geriatric fail safe  ;D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 26, 2020, 18:47
Quote from: FredyCro on August 26, 2020, 10:57What a great topic and read to help me recover from the flu! Found many interesting details, hopefully Ill incorporate some into my build, thank you sharing.


Glad you enjoyed it.

The forum is all about sharing info. Whishing you success; looking forward to you sharing the further progress on your dedicated thread about your car.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 27, 2020, 19:19
Maserati ´tuning´  8)

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Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on August 27, 2020, 21:40
Seen it before, but liking the wooden steering wheel. Seems to have more character just being in the shot, rather then being the shot.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 2, 2020, 19:46
Summer is winding down, even here. Even in the dead of winter though, most driving is top down.

Two bees in my bonnet are thus getting restless again:
1. Would like a nice winter jacket.
2. Lightness: As the airco will not be used for the next 9 months the weight is bugging me again, Thát makes áll possible weight reduction bugging me again:
- door mirrors
- door windows
- door cards
- windscreen
- bonnet
- rear deck
- AC
heck, even
- ABS pump
Would be 30 kg that  :o

Yes, I know; not practical, too expensive et al, so still cycling hard and lots of love making. Not nearly as much to be gained there though.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: jvanzyl on September 2, 2020, 20:10
These guys should be able to deliver them properly to you.. no idea if you can wind them up and down..
https://www.plastics4performance.com/window-kits-windscreens.html?brand=140&model=466
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 2, 2020, 21:58
Quote from: jvanzyl on September  2, 2020, 20:10These guys should be able to deliver them properly to you.. no idea if you can wind them up and down..
https://www.plastics4performance.com/window-kits-windscreens.html?brand=140&model=466

Thanks.
Rather expensive; MidshipGarage is less than half.
Will nevertheless ask them about winding and shipping.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on September 2, 2020, 22:45
Quote from: Petrus on September  2, 2020, 19:461. Summer is winding down, even here. Even in the dead of winter though, most driving is top down.
2. Would like a nice winter jacket.

1. Same here.
2. From previous posts, I do get  where you are coming from. Finding just the right jacket. Not as simple as it sounds.
For someone that "off the peg" is a non starter. I have settled into a simple layer system.
Base, thermal and wind. It ticks the warm n cosy box, but scores zero on the kudos/style box.

Puffer jackets fulfill both requirements and I do have one and it works well. But, I know that is off the menu for you.
Flying jackets. For me, new = no.
Finding one my size would be a feat in itself, one that has character and patenia rarer still.

1st world problems ehh.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 2, 2020, 23:25
Quote from: Ardent on September  2, 2020, 22:451st world problems ehh.

All of our MR2 related stuff, the whole forum is :-)

No problem finding used/vintage jacket in my size. Cost more than fluf in nylon though. Málaga Girl bought me a  deluxe satin body warmer with real down stuffing. Also have a perfectly comfy classic Levis jeans jacket with fake sheep lining/collar. Used leather is thus only for cool  points.

Unlike lightness adding stuff. Thát actually counts for something. Lexan windows add noticeble lightness. Though rare it´s not even unique on road cars; from the Smartfor2 to the Porsche GT3.

Anyhow, while I ponder about such luxury non-problems will use the car for running about 2 up with c-company ;-)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 3, 2020, 11:20
Quote from: jvanzyl on September  2, 2020, 20:10no idea if you can wind them up and down..


They are copies of the OEM shape/profile and can be straight swap fitted to the winding mechanism.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 23, 2020, 19:39
Right, that is most of the plan done.
For the MoT needed to build most back to OEM spec, seats, exhaust, frunk and all.
Had to go down to and a bit up the coast because there was only óne inspection station with a suitable date in the agenda for the next two months!!
Passed MoT with flying colours.
Then remodding again.

Also time to fit the Sportivo shiocks&springs I had taken over from Boris.
Had the bridge reserved for Tuesday but the first proper rain since April saw many agricultural higher priorities but today it was free.
So, now have the Sportivo McPherson/Chapman legs in and the dog bones were in already.
Will bring it away for allignment Monday so have not done any proper quick cornering. Did do a shake down run and ... it shakes less  :))

Ok, I am unfairly comparing the OEM shocks with 130k kms on them with better quality ones with a lót less but the ride quality is definitely better. The roadholding is both more tight and comfortable.
The ride hight is some 5mm lower than before.

Too early to say anythng more but sofar so good.

Btw, found the spring rates for stock and Sportivo:

kg/mm                Front       Rear
Stock                      1.3         2.1
Sportivo                 1.6         3.4

Note that the Sportivo set has the rear over twice as stiff whereas stock is under half stiffer.
I am VÉRY curious to experience how this affect the balance. It should shift from understeer to oversteer.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on October 23, 2020, 23:14
That is the stand out figure.

Do you have far to go to get a quality geo done?  A place that will dial in what you want, not just, "it's in spec guv."
Warrants better.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 24, 2020, 00:08
Quote from: Ardent on October 23, 2020, 23:14That is the stand out figure.

Am a bit miffed that nobody seems to have noticed the ´anomality´ between TRD upgrades and the rest.

QuoteDo you have far to go to get a quality geo done?  A place that will dial in what you want, not just, "it's in spec guv."
Warrants better.

As you know I live in the mountains near a a small village and ... have TWO such places at 1100 meters; one left at 1 km. the other right :-O
To add to the luxury the mountain girl insist on driving me to/fro so I don´t even have to stroll.
Both have an accurate kit and will simply set up what I ask them to.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on October 24, 2020, 07:38
You are a lucky chap.

Many places over here have the the top flight kit. But not always the tech know how, to extract the the best out of it.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: 1979scotte on October 24, 2020, 08:03
From those figures rear is over twice the stiffness of the front which is interesting as most after market coilover just have 2kg difference front and rear.
Bc 4-6
Meisterr 5-7
Etc

I wish I could get some ohlins for the 2 but they only did them in Japan and they were silly money and will no be really old.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 24, 2020, 21:04
Quote from: 1979scotte on October 24, 2020, 08:03From those figures rear is over twice the stiffness of the front which is interesting as most after market coilover just have 2kg difference front and rear.
Bc 4-6
Meisterr 5-7
Etc

Yes, that is the ´anomality´ I spotted. That both the TRD springs have double the front rat at the rear and that after market spings more or less copy the stock spring rate difference.

Did some spirited driving today; about 100 kms., but without pushing it. Despite the allignment being out, the improvement is surprisingly large.
Antequera gf was in the passenger seat and without having said anything about a change, after 10 kms she asked whether I had changed something. The car seemed much more stable to her, more comfortable even.
From my part I find it definitely less understeered upon entry and the rear has some throttle steering now. Véry pleased and looking forward to the allignment. Well, and there is notably less body roll ofcourse; despite higher cornering speed there is léss sensation of it.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on October 24, 2020, 21:47
Sounds like a win win win to me. Even before a geo.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 30, 2020, 11:20
More featherweight 3D printed bits; from 34 to 6 gramms times 2.

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Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 31, 2020, 09:53
@Ardent  Am now confined within village boundaries ánd regional ones ánd Andalucian; triple lock up. The logic is that theoretically two less affected villages could still be one common bubble within the region. Unfortunately the other love sits in a closed off one too.
As I was at hers when the measures were announced, drove back to the farm early in the morning. Aware it would be some time, at least 10 days, I stepped on it from Archidona over the mountain interior road past the stone quarry.
Mán what noise, what road holding, what control. Só satisfying  8)
Ok, there ís a downside and that is that the harder springs transmit more vibrations, change the frequency of the car as a whole. Nevertheless can hardly wait till the TRD braces and ARBs arrive to firm up, improve wheel location.

Although the car handles a lót better than with OEM set up, the increased rake and higher rear spring rate make the outer front carry more weight into the corner so the ARBs will be very welcome.
The big thing for mé is that bar the odd steep highway pass, there is nowhere that more horses are of any use but as it is corner heaven, roadholding and directional control are. I will happily suffer the vibrations and whining sound from the passenger side on the occasional cruising trip.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 4, 2020, 13:02
The  ´new´ used Sportivo legs.

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Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 9, 2020, 15:02
Today took the rear bumper skirt and crash bar off.
Deleted the black heathield, lightened the crash bar just a bit, faffed. with the license plate base & holder so I could use only the plate itself, screwed directly to the tabs on the crash bar, deleting two now superfluous parts.
Added just over 2 kilos of lightness.

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Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on November 9, 2020, 18:31
Happy to have been the catalyst for that.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: AdamR28 on November 9, 2020, 18:49
Nice little tweaks. No wonder the exhaust is loud! :)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 9, 2020, 18:51
Quote from: Ardent on November  9, 2020, 18:31Happy to have been the catalyst for that.

Please catalyse some more :-)

Hence I call it the no-muffler Adam ;-)
Oh and the above applies to you too ofcourse.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 10, 2020, 09:19
I reallyréally loike the idea that my car is now 89X kilos; únder 900.
Ok, @Adam28 is the unsung heroe, what?! I will sing he is  ;D  but still, 89X for a road´legal´.... Me likey.
 
Só looking forward to make it more go-kart still with the TRD braces and Whitelines.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: 1979scotte on November 10, 2020, 12:08
Reckon I've got the heaviest of any of the regular members.
Was 1070kg when I bought it. With supercharger gubbins and extra bracing must be around 1120 now.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on November 10, 2020, 15:22
Quote from: 1979scotte on November 10, 2020, 12:08Reckon I've got the heaviest of any of the regular members.
Was 1070kg when I bought it. With supercharger gubbins and extra bracing must be around 1120 now.


I apologise, I had to read the first line twice.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 23, 2020, 17:27
1.1 kg. is not too bad as they shoúld make a noticeable difference on the PFL.
Not tempted to clean them up a bit; they will look OEM when fitted as they are.
Hope to get round to it at the end of the week.


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Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 2, 2020, 18:05
Fitted.
Hopefully it´s something noticeable...

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Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 17, 2020, 19:35
Today could not resist it; took the AC pump and leads off; 6 kg. Packing it all and the belt nicely so I can bolt it back if needed.

Whitelines have arrived.
When I have the front on stands want to take the washer bottle out.
 
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Nvy on December 17, 2020, 21:46
Quote from: Petrus on December  2, 2020, 18:05Fitted.
Hopefully it´s something noticeable...

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Did you notice any difference?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 17, 2020, 22:08
Quote from: Nvy on December 17, 2020, 21:46
Quote from: Petrus on December  2, 2020, 18:05Fitted.
Hopefully it´s something noticeable...

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Did you notice any difference?

Yes; best described as noticeably more direct feedback from the rear wheels. Inspires confidence.
More so on wet than dry road which is ... quite níce ;-)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 19, 2020, 15:24
The Whiteline sway bars are under.
Set them to the stiffnes of the Sportivo bars, in effect completing the TRD Sportivo kit, subframe spacers and lower control arm braces included.
The handling is véry nice now. The car corners a lót flatter yet still comfortable and the already very good balance has imo much improved: The whole suspension frequency has increased but the rear double that of the front, making the rear noticeably quicker and more responsive. Because the directness of the feedback has improved, it is véry confidence inspiring.

Chuffed indeed. Chassis and handling wise it ss now as I like.
Hoping to add a bit more lightness still ofcurse....

Also hope to do a back to back with a completely stock car to more clearly notice the difference.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: FredyCro on December 19, 2020, 17:46
Quote from: Petrus on December 19, 2020, 15:24The Whiteline sway bars are under.
Set them to the stiffnes of the Sportivo bars, in effect completing the TRD Sportivo kit, subframe spacers and lower control arm braces included.
The handling is véry nice now. The car corners a lót flatter yet still comfortable and the already very good balance has imo much improved: The whole suspension frequency has increased but the rear double that of the front, making the rear noticeably quicker and more responsive. Because the directness of the feedback has improved, it is véry confidence inspiring.

Chuffed indeed. Chassis and handling wise it ss now as I like.
Hoping to add a bit more lightness still ofcurse....

Also hope to do a back to back with a completely stock car to more clearly notice the difference.



what setup did you use for whitelines? I have softer front (1/2) and 3/4 towards full hard in the back.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 19, 2020, 18:08
Quote from: FredyCro on December 19, 2020, 17:46what setup did you use for whitelines? I have softer front (1/2) and 3/4 towards full hard in the back.

Hard front, softest rear.
As observed this matches the Sportivo kit.
With a different balance between the front and rear spring ratings the sway bar rates should too. Mine possibly needs a a whiff stiffer setting at the rear because of the added lightness.
See the sway bar thread in the performance section.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 29, 2020, 15:29
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Crash bar and empty bottle weigh just over 5 kg. Bottle holds over 4 l.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on December 29, 2020, 18:15
Had chance to drive it yet?
From discussions yesterday, you are going to feel that.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 29, 2020, 18:43
Quote from: Ardent on December 29, 2020, 18:15Had chance to drive it yet?
From discussions yesterday, you are going to feel that.

Will be out for some 150 kms of mountain roads over the pass to the coast and back.

Have a look on Google maps; first to Antequera and from there over the A-343 to Alora then coast and back over the A-357: Should tell me all a car cán tell ;-)

btw the plastic bag I will be fitting only weighs 150 gramm incl. pump.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 30, 2020, 12:01
and it works; 500 gramms  8)


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Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 23, 2021, 15:27
And yet another bit of lightness added.
Faffing with the OBD2 port, took the plastic panel under the streering column off to check the connections.
Hardly visible, basically only providing the mounting for the port, I left it off; 403 gramms.

Not a lot but almost an lbs. sounds better than not half a kilo  ;)

Also is dóes add up.


Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on February 23, 2021, 20:20
A pound is a pound. Not to be dismissed. And certainly not when it comes off one's waist line.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 16, 2021, 10:00
Every little bit doés add up:


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Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 8, 2021, 21:12
Yessss; the first one is ready:


MR2Vleugel3D.jpg


Versus 330 gram.
Times 2; not bad  8)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 29, 2021, 04:52
The second being printed

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Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Gibla on April 29, 2021, 11:30
Excuse me (up to Page 21....this is for my reference)

Epic read of car modifying for lightweight improvement and 'risque' stories ....most interesting + entertaining!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 29, 2021, 18:07
Thank you Sir.

You have almost arrived at the new ´normality´.
I have toned down my writing somewhat because of the more than somewhat subdued situation.
Modding has been continued* though ;-)

The delightfully bubbly latest flame has been, ís great fun but the photos a bit too risque for sharing anywhichway here.

* currently séven thingies on hand. Will share as I complete them.

Ah and the next nearest Bull is still on the agenda. Will try to keep the adult version only modestly so :-)

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 30, 2021, 11:20
MR2FMB1.jpg
MR2FMB3.jpg

MR2Stuurkoppeling.jpg

ánd refitted the OEM cat.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Gibla on April 30, 2021, 13:15
Did you ever do your weight reduction guide for dummies? @Petrus - if so would you link here please as a reminder .

Seriously contemplating some weight reduction(this author would be a brilliant sp also :-)

spare wheel - done this am
pas pump
aircon
lighter wheels
lighter battery

fwiw. my 6sp FL has 1110 kg marked as its tare weight in the documentation (UK V5)

What savings would my relatively minor mods yield ?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 30, 2021, 13:21
Quote from: Gibla on April 30, 2021, 13:15Did you ever do your weight reduction guide for dummies? @Petrus - if so would you link here please as a reminder .
Open a thread on ´Performance mods´ and we will take it from there.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: 1979scotte on April 30, 2021, 13:22
Quote from: Gibla on April 30, 2021, 13:15Did you ever do your weight reduction guide for dummies? @Petrus - if so would you link here please as a reminder .

Seriously contemplating some weight reduction(this author would be a brilliant sp also :-)

spare wheel - done this am
pas pump
aircon
lighter wheels
lighter battery

fwiw. my 6sp FL has 1110 kg marked as its tare weight in the documentation (UK V5)

What savings would my relatively minor mods yield ?

A FL with AC shouldn't really weigh anymore than 1050kg.
My PFL V6 without spare and with lots of rust weighed in at 1070kg.
I reckon it weighs 1120 now with spare more bracing rotrex and less holes.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Gibla on April 30, 2021, 13:48
Doesn't the V5 figure allow for a full tank of fuel and a 75kg driver @1979scotte ? < maybe I have that wrong dunno
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Gibla on April 30, 2021, 13:51
Quote from: Petrus on April 30, 2021, 13:21
Quote from: Gibla on April 30, 2021, 13:15Did you ever do your weight reduction guide for dummies? @Petrus - if so would you link here please as a reminder .
Open a thread on ´Performance mods´ and we will take it from there.


Will do, maybe not today but soon
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: 1979scotte on April 30, 2021, 14:02
Quote from: Gibla on April 30, 2021, 13:48Doesn't the V5 figure allow for a full tank of fuel and a 75kg driver @1979scotte ? < maybe I have that wrong dunno

That one I'm not sure about but my turbo car was corner weighted at 1050kg.
I know some quoted weights include a 75 kg driver which is bloody stupid.
Give me the weight of the car with full tank and all fluids and I will take it from there.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Gibla on April 30, 2021, 14:13
Quote from: 1979scotte on April 30, 2021, 14:02
Quote from: Gibla on April 30, 2021, 13:48Doesn't the V5 figure allow for a full tank of fuel and a 75kg driver @1979scotte ? < maybe I have that wrong dunno

That one I'm not sure about but my turbo car was corner weighted at 1050kg.
I know some quoted weights include a 75 kg driver which is bloody stupid.
Give me the weight of the car with full tank and all fluids and I will take it from there.

Mr Google throws up a multitude of weights and scenarios, I should go and look in the engine bay + see what's on the metal plate + note what that weight is referring to.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 4, 2021, 10:12
Tatááááá

3DPrinter9.jpg

440 grams lighter, 3D printed by my # 1. son  ;)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 31, 2021, 12:41
Fitted Belle with the world´s only tonneau  8)

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Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on May 31, 2021, 13:23
Well played.
Can I just make out a centre zip?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 31, 2021, 15:34
Quote from: Ardent on May 31, 2021, 13:23Well played.
Can I just make out a centre zip?

Yes.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on May 31, 2021, 18:32
DI don't have the gumption to do it.
But well executed.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 31, 2021, 19:50
Quote from: Ardent on May 31, 2021, 18:32DI don't have the gumption to do it.
But well executed.



Thanks!

Tbh I don´t recommend it.
It is a AWEFUL lot of work.
Also had my heart in the throat more than once when drilling in the panels.

More a cool thing to have/do for the heck of it than a functional one. I think it makes more a near ideal parking cover* than a dríving thing in the light of the way Í like to use my car.
Looks very cool and intriguing though. Tótally classic too.

* even though pulling up the soft top, it makes the interior a fúrnace over here under the sun. Yes, the tarp is still black but there is no direct sunlight beaming heat in through the glass anymore. Especially the windscreen makes for a hothouse.
Leaving it down is exposing it áll to the sun, passers by and debris.
Pulling the tarp makes for a sometimes usefull extra.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on May 31, 2021, 22:30
Quote from: Petrus on May 31, 2021, 19:50Also had my heart in the throat more than once when drilling in the panels.
That's gumption right there.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 31, 2022, 13:23
Oh my, thát has been a while  :-*

Currently with a lightweight flywheel, new clutch, revised engine and repaired front end. While parked a myopic elderly man in a too large wheeled luxury SUV ran over that side observing that he had not observed it because it was too low...   Yes, he had his insurance sort the money side. Phew.

 
MR2Maart22HelloKitty.jpg


This is the flywheel btw; Competition Clutch Ultralight, saving just over 3 kgs.  The SMT copes seamlessly with it. From the picking up first movement driving  off you would not know its there. On the move the shifting is just that bit smoother and ´faster´.
With lightweight crank pulley, larger diameter yet lighter alternator pulley, airco delete and lightweight flywheel. the engine is responsive adding even more nimble feel to the car.


(https://www.rideround.nl/wp-content/uploads/2569o1bvlrs8avch54981j9tc7c197jo.jpg)
(https://www.rideround.nl/wp-content/uploads/5840o1bvlrs8au9qo13mkkq61hd01d9hn.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: FredyCro on April 8, 2022, 20:35
Quote from: Petrus on November  9, 2020, 15:02Today took the rear bumper skirt and crash bar off.
Deleted the black heathield, lightened the crash bar just a bit, faffed. with the license plate base & holder so I could use only the plate itself, screwed directly to the tabs on the crash bar, deleting two now superfluous parts.
Added just over 2 kilos of lightness.

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Any issues with rear bumper "melting" due to black heat shield delete? Thinking of doing the same, have a stock exhaust so far, planning to upgrade in the near future.

Also what was the thinking behind cutting but not completely removing the rear crash bar? Do you think it adds to structural integrity or?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 8, 2022, 20:51
No heat problem whatsoever. If anything is runs cooler because of improved ventilation.


The rear bumper máy add some rigidity but I am pretty sure it is not. The bolt fixture is simply not solid enough for that; it is designed to deform.
The reason I left it is convenience as mounting point for cable, license plate and the rear bumper skirt. I did take parts of the flat inside out and the outer ends.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: FredyCro on April 8, 2022, 21:02
Quote from: Petrus on April  8, 2022, 20:51No heat problem whatsoever. If anything is runs cooler because of improved ventilation.


The rear bumper máy add some rigidity but I am pretty sure it is not. The bolt fixture is simply not solid enough for that; it is designed to deform.
The reason I left it is convenience as mounting point for cable, license plate and the rear bumper skirt. I did take parts of the flat inside out and the outer ends.

Thank you for the swift reply! My reasoning is to remove the rear heat shield to minimise parachute effect, add lightness and improve heat dispersion. Ill probably remove the rear bumper grey plastic insert too due to same reasons. Need to see how will it look like and decide.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 8, 2022, 21:48
Quote from: FredyCro on April  8, 2022, 21:02Thank you for the swift reply! My reasoning is to remove the rear heat shield to minimise parachute effect, add lightness and improve heat dispersion. Ill probably remove the rear bumper grey plastic insert too due to same reasons. Need to see how will it look like and decide.

Cheers!

Also remove the drip tray and ... go for a lighter, smaller battery; that blocks air flow from the side vent a lot less.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: FredyCro on April 9, 2022, 06:11
Quote from: Petrus on April  8, 2022, 21:48Also remove the drip tray and ... go for a lighter, smaller battery; that blocks air flow from the side vent a lot less.

Already got the lighter battery in for a year or so now, 5kg led vs 12kg stock. Not the lightest but more of a  best buy option
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 11, 2022, 08:51
Slowly, distracted by life and gfs, but surely... Now cutting off the bottoms of the spotlights  :o
Oh and they weigh just over 250 grams the two incl. modded fittings.

(https://i.ibb.co/xfJtyx0/MR2Spot6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xfJtyx0)

(https://i.ibb.co/BGThTV0/MR2Spot5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BGThTV0)

(https://i.ibb.co/hyBLc03/MR2Spot1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hyBLc03)

(https://i.ibb.co/WxC4vyz/MR2Spot2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WxC4vyz)

(https://i.ibb.co/Mg0R3yb/MR2Spot3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Mg0R3yb)

(https://i.ibb.co/FwJjx5b/MR2Lamp2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FwJjx5b)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Alex Knight on May 13, 2022, 14:19
I haven't visited this thread for some time, but surprised to see that you have a big wing on the rear.

For someone who is as single-minded as you in the pursuit of efficiency, that wing isn't going to do anything on a road car but add weight and drag. Both of these things reduce efficiency.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 13, 2022, 16:17
Quote from: Alex Knight on May 13, 2022, 14:19I haven't visited this thread for some time, but surprised to see that you have a big wing on the rear.

For someone who is as single-minded as you in the pursuit of efficiency, that wing isn't going to do anything on a road car but add weight and drag. Both of these things reduce efficiency.

Thanks for the information.

p.s. the confusion about ´road car´ is the weight assumed

So, believe it ... or not; tant pis 👌
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 14, 2022, 15:46
Meanwhile sourced and bought a lightweight alternator. The idéa is that it has enough amps for my use and saves 2.5 kg, of which 1.5 rotating.


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/yFQAAOSwOLJiHJW1/s-l1600.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 27, 2022, 11:01
ITV (Spanish MoT) passed. The handbrake was áwesome! and the emissions  :o  0.02% while 0.3 is permitted.

Meanwhile sorted the lightness again  8)

Only motorbike no-muffler still to swap ad then the lightweight 40 amps alternator.

Also could not resist buying a replica TRD strut bar  :-*  Never liked the bent wonder currently fitted.

Yes, and then the bonnet. Should really REALLY kick myself under the butt and apply myself to making a GRP mould   ::) 



Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: J88TEO on May 27, 2022, 13:09
Quote from: Petrus on May 27, 2022, 11:01a replica TRD strut bar
Where did you get this?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 27, 2022, 14:23
Quote from: J88TEO on May 27, 2022, 13:09Where did you get this?


www.mwcomponents.de
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: J88TEO on May 27, 2022, 14:36
Thanks!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 27, 2022, 16:46
and a  8)  car-toon  :))



(https://i.ibb.co/93XwDHP/Initial-D-Vinyl-Sticker-3-TOYOTA-MR2-SPYDER.jpg) (https://ibb.co/93XwDHP)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on May 27, 2022, 17:49
Quote from: Petrus on May 27, 2022, 16:46and a  8)  car-toon  :))



(https://i.ibb.co/93XwDHP/Initial-D-Vinyl-Sticker-3-TOYOTA-MR2-SPYDER.jpg) (https://ibb.co/93XwDHP)



That does look very familiar, lacks only the Warrior graphics!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 27, 2022, 18:03
Quote from: Joesson on May 27, 2022, 17:49That does look very familiar, lacks only the Warrior graphics!

...and the red stripes  ;)
It is a rendering of Kai Kogashiwa´s MR-S in the Initial-D series.

Should really contain my exuberance drifting btw. Went out for a spirited spin with the lighter no-muffler fitted and underway stopped at a venta for a coffee. Rolled up the nice smooth, wide tarmac; did a 180 degrees on the throttle, enjoying the now again sexy sound, backed up in the parking space. When I walked in the doors, a Guardia Civil patrol car did a round at the site and the adjacent petrol station....
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: J88TEO on May 27, 2022, 21:49
Lucky getaway!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 6, 2022, 12:02
Oh and the alternator swap did not come to fruit.
Quoting form earlier in this thread:

´The bummer is that you don´t know what you don´t know; that there is always more, ALWAYS:  A vital bit of key info dropping into place a lot, is boúnd to be unveiled áfter you took a plunge.´

So that is lightness not added.


Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 8, 2022, 09:09
The TRD type brace arrived from Germany and fits oh so well:


(https://i.ibb.co/8rZdgpk/TRDBrace1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8rZdgpk)

(https://i.ibb.co/LtztJLC/TRDBrace2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LtztJLC)

(https://i.ibb.co/M9tJP7q/TRDBrace3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/M9tJP7q)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on June 8, 2022, 09:14
@Petrus
You have mentioned that the Roadster's in Spain are comparatively rust free, from those pictures I can see that is the case. The front cross member is typically rusty/ been the subject of some TLC on UK cars.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 8, 2022, 12:09
Quote from: Joesson on June  8, 2022, 09:14@Petrus
You have mentioned that the Roadster's in Spain are comparatively rust free, from those pictures I can see that is the case. The front cross member is typically rusty/ been the subject of some TLC on UK cars.

I have yet to encounter a rusted fastener.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: jvanzyl on June 8, 2022, 17:12
What do you think of that gear stick cage that the MW place sells?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 8, 2022, 17:20
Quote from: jvanzyl on June  8, 2022, 17:12What do you think of that gear stick cage that the MW place sells?

Looks like art. A pity that I can´t use it  ;D  I am sure I could make up a ´reason´ to sell it to the gfs if it was a manual shift  O:-)

As it is, very happy with the strut brace. Not sticking a ´TRD´ blurp on; that would be fake.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 20, 2022, 15:31
Tatááá



(https://i.ibb.co/mNR9wpW/Initial-D-Vinyl-Sticker-3-TOYOTA-MR2-SPYDER-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mNR9wpW)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 23, 2022, 18:57
Today had the front shocks replaced. Left front damaged to the point of flopping without resistance by me hitting a pothole HÁRD, bottoming it out.
Went for OEM damping but with the Sportivo springs.

With the inner splash plastic off adjusted the front bumper skirt a bit better.
Used a bit of mounting kit to aid the plastic fasteners I used to adjust the plastic skirt. While it is hardening added band aids. Looks  8)  and if it were not for it getting filthy would leave them  :))

Obviously aligned again.

Now, the not damped wheel was a slight damper on sliding fun but all is well again so let it all hang out just now  O:-)
Well not literally because it slides very neutrally with throttle controlled oversteer. Understeer only if you brusquely plow it into a tightish corner.
Ah the fun of a nimble ´unaided´ cabrio.

Next on the list is refitting the steering wheel one tooth to the right and changing the SMT fluid.

Meanwhile controlling windscreen envy @Ardent
Like DIYing a lightweight bonnet replica, a plastic windscreen is still on the whish list...

Ah, since I am well chuffed with the car-toon may get it printed on a T-shirt  ;)


Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 24, 2022, 12:25
The front bumper skirt now matches good enough



(https://i.ibb.co/mqTtRzS/Bumper1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mqTtRzS)


...and the rear is patched up too.


(https://i.ibb.co/YDCpXNY/Spatbord1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YDCpXNY)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: J88TEO on June 24, 2022, 13:56
band aid  ;D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 25, 2022, 15:30
Went for a WOW drive today.
The original plan was to stay the weekend at the coast with Málaga girl but she tested positive for and it quite ill with Covid. I did not mind and would have gladly played nurse but she preferred not be responsible for perhaps infecting me thus Mountain Girl. Mountain Girl agreed, so me not going was thus democratically decided  :(

From the mountain valley where the farm is, you can take the highway to the coast, crossing the major Las Pedrizas pass. Alternatively take the scenic route which crosses two passes or take the rural route across one pass more still.
Since one pass thataway lies the neighbouring village Alfarnate which today celebrates the Feria de Cereza.
Lóvely weather so gave the windscreen a clean and off we went.
Mountain Girl in sexy, risqué really, summer dress. Tricky, also riqué, mood though. Not sure she´s happy I am not off for the weekend or p´´ed off because of having her own plans erased. Best tred lightly.

All twisties, stop in the picturesque mountain village, tasted cereza-gazpacho, bought a 24 month old raw goat milk cheese, then all twisties again.
Some 80 kilometers only and especially the second bit, from Alfarnate ... is second or third gear only.
As we did a ´circular´ did five passes, four of which different. Whát a swinging joy at the tune of the singing non-muffler!

The last and lowest of the three aforementioned is the Puerto del Sol. Named thus because it is the last one between the north side of the divide and the coast in sight.
We did not go down all the way but at some 200 meter altitude doubled back up into the mountains again over another rural alternative.
The photos we took of the views were all too much light too little scenery so only the pass sign left...

(https://i.ibb.co/f2nxNVj/Puertodel-Sol.jpg) (https://ibb.co/f2nxNVj)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 30, 2022, 22:58
Today had a cute small pressed aluminium ´Alfa-type´ front plate made.

Felt off yesterday and in the light of the campaign promoting the fourth vaccination I had Mountain Girl get self test while she was in the village anyway. Málaga girl had tested positive a few days earlier too so could have caught it, should have.
The vaccin will be not-obligatory for 60+  (like @Joesson and me) but for my life style defacto yes. The escape being natural recovery certification!!
And yessss!!!! Positive. Informed the local heath centre and it has gone into the system. Already have electronic confirmation. Fingers crossed I get the flag in The System.

What that has to do with the plate???
Well, had quite a lot planned for this week involving others and did not want to pull the plug for thém. So only cancelled a date.
Rebaptised Mountain Girl ´Robin´; my masked helper and we followed the plan with me keeping distance and her following instructions.
When at a local industrial estate with a quarter of an hour to kill, not really an option to go for a coffee and right next to the restaurant is a car parts shop which stamps number plates. Tatááá; with Robin in instruction following mode ... O:-)
Now officially they are not allowed to make the plate without a homologation approval for the car as the size is otherwise not legal but Robin in blond mode is ´lethal´.
Have the plate!!!  ;D




Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on July 1, 2022, 00:18
Just to recap.

Three individuals having had multiple VACCINE jabs to prevent the contraction and transmission of a virus, are testing positive for the virus they have been "VACCINATED" against.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 1, 2022, 08:18
It did get mé a cute illegal plate Jase  ;D

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on July 1, 2022, 12:18
Alls good then.
Moving on. Nothing to see.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 1, 2022, 13:52
Pretty much limited by Covid (´Robin´ has tested positive too) and that is never good as my idea generator gets overactive then.

Will try have bunch of stickers made of my car-toon and stick one on every pass sign  :))
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 2, 2022, 12:23
Changed the SMT fluid.
Not complicated, just a faff and more if you see the dust cap of the fluid reservoir when collecting the last wrench  :-*
Ah well, still Covid affected  O:-)
Nah, more distracted by the Frenchies ´protecting´ me from éverything within a 100 metres. It is just not safe when I am not behind the gate  ;)
Anyway; sucked it out, flushed some, filled up. Starts, works.

On a side note; cleaned the air filter box and the K&N element. Amázed about how ´fatty´-like dirty it was. The bottom box as well. The top bit spotless, as it should be pffff... ::)
The element same; suck side filthy, sucked side just a bit darker than fresh.
So it sure filters A LÓT  :o
Had not expected it to be thís filthy though.

After changing from side entry to entry from behind the lamp unit, deleting the air duct I had noticed an increase in dirt,  but not thís obvious because I had not left it 10K kms.
Now also because there was more of it, the dirt itself drew my attention too. After looking closely at it, my thought is that sucking the air from right behind the rear tyre also sucks in a relatively higher % rubber particles.

Refitted after a próper clean and southern sun dry, it is actually clearly audible. My inlet funnel is a bit of a megaphone so exaggerates but still, on an n.a. not a good thing so: Note to self not to wait 10k kms.


Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 2, 2022, 17:22
Fit the small numberplate. Lighter too, so fingers crossed it does not upset the balance  :-[



(https://i.ibb.co/HDQ6YFq/nummerplaat1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HDQ6YFq)


(https://i.ibb.co/kXyhrnf/nummerplaat2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kXyhrnf)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 4, 2022, 10:05
Inside of the RHS headlamp unit a spider had managed to enter and by some weírd strategy/coincidence eaten a mini moth there. More logically later died, áfter which a second mini moth had found it´s way in and subsequently died.
So an interesting little eco-system but... best not thére.

Took a fine but longish bbq fork and bent the legs closer stuck on a narrow long strip of lint free cloth, bent the legs closed and wound/bound the strip on. Wetted it so the tiny corpses would sick and later the crap rubbed off.

I was a bit apprehensive about the maneuvering but it actually worked first go!

Also remembered the drama of dropping the H4 bulb in  :o so this time made sure not too  8)

Being a particularly lovely, quiet morning, I went for a spin. The only charming company being the car.  Windows down to maximise open experience, strapped in the empty passenger seat to prevent ány distraction by the belt buckle.
Well, that was fun.

Dug out the summer pijama and left the rear vent open for the heat to breathe out.


(https://i.ibb.co/p0ZS7ws/zomerpijama-MR2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/p0ZS7ws)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 7, 2022, 11:04
A wónderful drive  8)



(https://i.ibb.co/h1dzHwX/Trabuco1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/h1dzHwX)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on July 7, 2022, 16:58
Thought you were filling it with water, like a mobile paddling pool.  ;D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 7, 2022, 17:17
Quote from: Ardent on July  7, 2022, 16:58Thought you were filling it with water, like a mobile paddling pool.  ;D

Just watering the horses @Ardent  ;)

Was rather nice taking the poto.
As you can see I have stopped wrong side of the road on the middle of the bridge. What you cannot see is that it is also on the pedestrian crossing.
I had to wait a bit till there was no traffic whatsover.
Several; motorists to pedestrians waíted out of frame!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 19, 2022, 12:12
46 laminated stickers  8)


(https://i.ibb.co/tqzz6ZV/Cartoon-Stickers.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tqzz6ZV)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: J88TEO on July 20, 2022, 09:25
Selling some? Would like a couple on my window glasses.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 20, 2022, 15:31
Quote from: J88TEO on July 20, 2022, 09:25Selling some? Would like a couple on my window glasses.

Will contact you next week about sending you some.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: J88TEO on July 20, 2022, 15:38
Great!
Thanks.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 27, 2022, 10:15
Right. Some good times, some less, some unforeseen so running behind. Will drop by the post office tomorrow, Was already closed today  ::)

Had some fun with the cabrio early this morning taking the interior roads and two mountain passes to the regional hospital.
The news is really nothing new and although bad still good. I mean, not nice the shoulder is that bad it needs a titanium  replacement but wónderful it cán be done nowadays.
Still confrontational so had a coffee in the cafeteria and took a different even more interior interior road and pass the way back.
Had even more fun but ran late so...

As always had a laugh with the surgeon and nurse: The gfs obviously worried so kept them in the loop. Whatsapp that I had arrived and... I was called in straight away. WOW  :o
Thus the messages of three came in when in. The surgeon noticed and wondered if I was married.
Aaaaanyway.... the usual. The nurse broke a lance for marriage ad did the surgeon. He was twice divorced so basically proving mý point  :))
As icing on the cake he noticed I had taken the brilliantly hilarious, blátant* adulterous work of Ovid along to read as I expected a long wait.
* no wonder at all that the guy was banished to a dismal outpost by emperor Augustus.


Ok, the car.
Éver so pleased with how much better planted the front is with the new shocks. Also rubbed the left front tyre only ónce and I sure did push it.



Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 29, 2022, 10:58
Marcando pasos  8)


(https://i.ibb.co/1Kps4FY/Marca-Paso1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1Kps4FY)

(https://i.ibb.co/C7Zrgzv/Marca-Paso2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/C7Zrgzv)

(https://i.ibb.co/7JdRTtB/Marca-Paso3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7JdRTtB)

(https://i.ibb.co/ts7gtMp/Marca-Paso5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ts7gtMp)


and a cup of coffee



(https://i.ibb.co/hWQYb1v/Marca-Paso6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hWQYb1v)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 1, 2022, 10:57
Another morning, another pass marked  8)


(https://i.ibb.co/FWdw1mX/Marca-Paso22.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FWdw1mX)


and after a job well done, a deserved coffee again



(https://i.ibb.co/F3LkwHZ/Marca-Paso23.jpg) (https://ibb.co/F3LkwHZ)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 3, 2022, 11:25
Not ideal this morning  ::)
The drive itself and the car, awesome, breathtaking, exhilerating.

Mountain Girl ´asked´ (read assumed; a la l´Oreal) that she was coming along.
Now, she can be as much fun as ´wolverine´, both extremes being unpredictable.
And as things go, she could not help her wolverine self when I stopped at the pass crossing.
When back at the farm she apologised. Like that unspoils the second half of the drive or reduced my ´spoiler alert´ anticipation of it. Referring back to ´l Oreal; no, nót worth it.
Ah well, relationships... Zennn. Better fill my glass; the drive was as good as it comes.

The venta where I stopped for a coffee, is a particularly nice one. Well above average good food at álmost  pre-Covid prices. The lady owner  is cheerful and  always wants a walkaround the cabrio with a fun chat about it. Today she hollered a neighbour to come cross the road and see her new car. ´That Ferrari is yours?´
The only thing with the place is that she closes at 23.00 which is a bit absurd here with the cool of the night not starting to breeze in before 22.00. Something to keep in mind.

(https://i.ibb.co/jV1Q2w7/Marca-Paso32.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jV1Q2w7)

(https://i.ibb.co/mXcDDfx/Marca-Paso33.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mXcDDfx)


(https://i.ibb.co/n8PpzJf/Marca-Paso34.jpg) (https://ibb.co/n8PpzJf)


(https://i.ibb.co/pKz0K57/Marca-Paso35.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pKz0K57)



(https://i.ibb.co/N3SzycZ/Marca-Paso36.jpg) (https://ibb.co/N3SzycZ)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Chilli Girl on August 3, 2022, 13:25
Very nice pics @Petrus - I don't remember your front bumper being painted black, nice little car.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 3, 2022, 13:39
Quote from: Chilli Girl on August  3, 2022, 13:25Very nice pics @Petrus - I don't remember your front bumper being painted black, nice little car.

Thanks.
It´s an unpainted (lighter) new skirt thanks to a ´did not see it´ in an SUV.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 10, 2022, 10:54
Did the stúnning route past the Boquete de Zafaraya.
Unfortunately no nice signpost to mark but wáy more cool than that was the missing gate to the former railway!

The railway tracks were removed decades ago and the track was resurfaced for cyclists and walkers. It passes higher op the cliff, some 30 meters under the mouth of the cave that was inhabited by Neanderthals for cénturies, possibly millennia, until some 45k years ago only.

Too good an opportunity to pass so.... up the ´railway´ track  ;D
Was a bit of a challenge and then a bigger one still to túrn but managed ;D  and could take a réally special photo:


(https://i.ibb.co/ChBBmmW/Neanderthalgrot.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ChBBmmW)

Here a picture nicked from the web to illustrate where the cave entry is located and why it is special I managed to get the MR2  thís close up there

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-F7aXr_5z0iw/VAawi3uvYgI/AAAAAAAAgak/KN5R2AAM6UE/s1600/Z2.jpg)


Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 29, 2022, 12:50
Weather change this morning which is not all that usual over here as in the UK, Netherlands, so plans for the day too.

Turns out lúckily because I was home when the courier with the door thingies from Japan called. Dropping it off not an option  as there was a customs charge.

Nów the next hurdle; the instructions:


(https://i.ibb.co/d0dCd3W/Deurdingetje1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/d0dCd3W)


Will ask #1 son and ´GoogleLens´ no doubt adds info plus can make to with the sketches  O:-)

Fitted the thingies:


(https://i.ibb.co/d5vS4X5/Deurdingetje2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/d5vS4X5)

(https://i.ibb.co/QJFZJZR/Deurdingetje3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QJFZJZR)

And yes I did a before and after, BUT only the TRD thingy. So just Dev´s and TRD + DEV´s.

Ok, so the door now ´thuds´ close more solidly but that is  entirely subjective.
BUT,  yes there is a measurable difference. Mínimal and I had to measure it several times to be sure.  Without a doubt there is 1 mm. less distortion measuring the diagonal across the tub jacking up one rear wheel júst off the ground.  Phew, because Dev´s already  reduces twist.
I am happy I measured sómething but on top of that it is the idea that the door has now twó supporting points at the jamb side.
So win-win-win: Looks bling, has the ´TRD´ logo ánd.... it even works!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 30, 2022, 11:19
The problem to which the door thingies offer a solution:



(https://i.ibb.co/2sny9md/Deurdingetje5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2sny9md)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 19, 2022, 17:59
Four passes today but only óne safe to stop, tag, photograph  :'(

Done some 450 kms, 395 of which secondary inland. Absolutely stúnning driving with hardly any traffic.

Two fairly large stretches, about 150 kms in all, are ´ruta de ciclistas´; cyclist route, with special right of way rules and limited max. speed during weekends/festive days between sunrise and sundown. One bit had been in the Vuelta de España this year and a different stretch was honoured by the Andalucian Vuelta. Today 5 cyclists in total on those bits, 2 on the rest.
 
(https://i.ibb.co/rZq6CpT/Puerto-Castillo2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rZq6CpT)

(https://i.ibb.co/rkYPSVg/Puerto-Castillo1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rkYPSVg)

The fuel gauge is a bit less far below 3/4 than when we left this morning. Forgot how many litres of E98 but it was 44€.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 30, 2022, 12:42
Had new AD08RS fitted to the rear with compliments of MG who paid for them.


(https://i.ibb.co/2ckwSdk/Tyres1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2ckwSdk)

(https://i.ibb.co/NV6v1r4/Tyres2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NV6v1r4)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 6, 2022, 10:15
Me having been spoiled rotten for my birthday ordered some extra spoiling for the car too O:-) 
- fog lights
- the OEM FL dash switch
- red door(tow) straps (door rail delete)
- a proper chamois
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on October 6, 2022, 14:39
@Petrus said:

A proper chamois.

Very traditional/ old school. I haven't had one of those for many years, no denying the absorption of a leather but they do need looking after. I find the modern super cloth products suit me with very little care necessary and at low cost. But, it's a "present" so a different perspective.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 6, 2022, 17:17
I also make my coffee using a 1974 lever machine and steam.
Yes, needs more care, is more involving, asks some skill and takes more time, yet there is no substitute. Heck even the brew from the pretty fast and simple Bialetti is a cut above the modern wasteful apparatus.

Currently use a modern fibre supercloth and have been for some 15 years, but have decided in favour of the result above ease of use and price.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on October 6, 2022, 17:31
Quote from: Petrus on October  6, 2022, 17:17I also make my coffee using a 1974 lever machine and steam.
Yes, needs more care, is more involving, asks some skill and takes more time, yet there is no substitute. Heck even the brew from the pretty fast and simple Bialetti is a cut above the modern wasteful apparatus.

Currently use a modern fibre supercloth and have been for some 15 years, but have decided in favour of the result above ease of use and price.





Life must be about the journey rather than the destination, because we all know the final destination!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 6, 2022, 18:21
Quote from: Joesson on October  6, 2022, 17:31Life must be about the journey rather than the destination, because we all know the final destination!

Going to drop of the quality terrace seats at the in laws this evening. With a younger ´wife´ those are not all thát much older. Pfffff some destination indeed and if thát is not a pointer about the quality of the journey, what is?!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 7, 2022, 13:54
Trip to La Hoya de la Mora

(https://i.ibb.co/nPg1Jcc/Hoya-Mora1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nPg1Jcc)

(https://i.ibb.co/71NNpYz/Hoya-Mora2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/71NNpYz)

(https://i.ibb.co/1JXxPYv/Hoya-Mora3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1JXxPYv)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 8, 2022, 16:02
Alpine inspired saved 250 gr. per door so a whopping 500 gramms. Half a kílo  :o



(https://i.ibb.co/4wqp79n/Deur1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4wqp79n)

(https://i.ibb.co/jMpw4JV/Deur2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jMpw4JV)


Half a kilo here,
half a kilo there,
many kilos everywhere.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 14, 2022, 11:49
The spare oil dip stick has arrived.
Modifying with solder did not work, so crimped a metal tule above the marked bit.
Does not look slick :-*  but then it is invisible and is best únslick so it shows the oil level  :))

Never mind the wisdom of a bit more oil. Í feel better with it being conform the Toyota Service Bulletins for 1ZZ-FE engines.



(https://i.ibb.co/Y8cgSMp/Oliepeil1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Y8cgSMp)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 22, 2022, 12:45
enlightening different meaning of light:


(https://i.ibb.co/HKDfYvQ/Mistlampen1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HKDfYvQ)

(https://i.ibb.co/Ldw3Gb1/Mistlampen3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Ldw3Gb1)

(https://i.ibb.co/rkW5mgP/Mistlampen2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rkW5mgP)


Driving/throwing the thing around here locally, the other light is só enticing, seductive, addictive. Would love some more. thus less.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 27, 2022, 07:49
Had time to take photos.
Mind it is without adjusting a bit more to the sides.
Will take two on the road when adjusted.

The voltage remains exactly the same at 2k revs and up.


(https://i.ibb.co/R2TvrXV/Mistlampen4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/R2TvrXV)
(https://i.ibb.co/j5Dvn2J/Mistlampen5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/j5Dvn2J)

Here´s one on my drive straight after fitting, no adjustment at all. Only the left adds sóme more enlightenment but not all that much more left/right; no nude wood nympf caught. Will try again.

(https://i.ibb.co/TMyRCV2/Mistlampen6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TMyRCV2)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Gibla on October 27, 2022, 10:18
That's down to the fog lights?
Have you got a link to the aftermarket type you installed?

My DRL (Ring) have recently stopped working ,so rather than replace them I would consider an alternative ....ie fog lights
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 27, 2022, 10:43
Quote from: Gibla on October 27, 2022, 10:18That's down to the fog lights?
Have you got a link to the aftermarket type you installed?

My DRL (Ring) have recently stopped working ,so rather than replace them I would consider an alternative ....ie fog lights

https://www.amazon.es/gp/product/B00CAKKQ3E/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 27, 2022, 21:53
Adjusted, tried, tested.
More of an improvement than the photos show.
Especially the path is way broader and better lit. Móre so than on the wall. The tree on the left was hardly visible with the dipped beams only and lit up with the fogs. Maybe the camera of the mobile phone automatically tones it down to the same enlightenment? On the foggy photo there is a ´shade´ in the middle which of course in nót there. Same thing the top of the headlights is less intense on the photos with the foggies on. Hence I think the camera turns the whick down a bit.
Anyway, the wall shows the difference clearly enough despite being toned down from the real difference as seen by the eye and brain.

(https://i.ibb.co/qpyrt1j/Mistlampen9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qpyrt1j)
(https://i.ibb.co/ckwv4vt/Mistlampen10.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ckwv4vt)

(https://i.ibb.co/zRgg8kS/Mistlampen7.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zRgg8kS)
(https://i.ibb.co/xgL13yP/Mistlampen8.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xgL13yP)

No still no nude wood nymph. The resident one was in praying mantis mode and thus best not ask the non resident one to make an appearance either...
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on October 27, 2022, 22:31
quite impressive
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 4, 2022, 08:50
A lovely sweet Chinese lady friend commented on the lettersign in the side decal. If I knew what it meant. I did not to my  :-*
But then I thought it is Japanese and know of no Japanese speaker. Simply never occured to me that it could be Chinese in a Manga figure.
Anywy, it is a simplified Chinese sign for ´Lucky Dragon´.
Could not be better fitting because

(https://i.ibb.co/D8tqJcW/Dragoncito.jpg) (https://ibb.co/D8tqJcW)


have had a Lucky Dragon figurine on the dash for 20 years.  Serendipity it is. Encountering the lady maybe too
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on November 4, 2022, 09:09
News Flash: Dutchman living in Southern Spain has Welsh connections!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 4, 2022, 10:53
Quote from: Joesson on November  4, 2022, 09:09News Flash: Dutchman living in Southern Spain has Welsh connections!

There were dragons in China long even before* the first sapiens arrived in Wales. Which was from the iberian peninsula btw. via the then not thát nether netherlands  :))  Quite interesting those earliest migrations. The west of what is now the british isles seem to have been colonised from the south west of europe whereas the east from the italian side.
Probably subsequent waves. The much later beaker culture found p.e. at Stonehenge area came from central europe.
The climate btw had then some wármer periods than today and noooooo EVs  :)) 
* both the dragon and griffon myths appear to be based in the great abundance of dinosaur bones all over China and Mongolia.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 22, 2022, 14:48
Fitted the blíng mirrors


(https://i.ibb.co/5FrfkLX/Bling-Mirror1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5FrfkLX)


(https://i.ibb.co/59WzVKy/Bling-Mirror2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/59WzVKy)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: J88TEO on November 22, 2022, 16:23
Looks good!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on November 22, 2022, 16:59
Like that. Looks the mutts nutts.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 22, 2022, 18:04
#1 son and resident charming both think it horribly conspicuous. Like the whole car is not  ::)
Their vehement rejection did help me to decide to buy the matching set of chrome door handles  :P
There is a cunning plan behind it even  ;D   Not all that serious, very much tongue in cheek, but will still actually dó it. Excute the plan that is  :)) 
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: TheTigerUK on November 22, 2022, 18:30
You can't beat a bit of bling  8)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 22, 2022, 19:42
Quote from: TheTigerUK on November 22, 2022, 18:30You can't beat a bit of bling  8)

But, but... just wrote the family beats it!  ;)
I will get my own though, with the bling upgrade mounted come nice sunny winter weather days  :))
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Bernie on November 22, 2022, 20:08
Welcome to "Club Bling" 👍
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 22, 2022, 20:45
Quote from: Bernie on November 22, 2022, 20:08Welcome to "Club Bling" 👍

Already had the interior ´stealthely´ blinged with chrome details ;) and being SMT it already had a Ferrariesque bling selector grid.
Have a great photo showing it all but there is a very much distracting and too recogniseable nude in it as well  ::)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on November 23, 2022, 23:34
Recognisable, we already know what you look like.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 30, 2022, 19:50
Quote from: Ardent on November 23, 2022, 23:34Recognisable, we already know what you look like.

Aye, but it is ´Bubbly´ and better respect her privacy.

Thismorning tries to find the access road up to the Osborne Bull in Almayate. Good thing I had the foresight to do the reconaisance with the SUV because would have been scary/hairy with the MR2 and it led to nothing. Since China Girl lives at 5 km may have another opportunity.

Oh and the door handles are at customs.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 2, 2022, 12:10
 8)  8)


(https://i.ibb.co/VB72vq4/Deurbling1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VB72vq4)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 5, 2022, 13:33
Fitted the doorbling. Well, óne.

Good idea to release the lock drom the latch while in the door. Ditto unclip the latch rod with the assembly still screwed into the door.
I doubt if I would have been able to fit and clip the lock rod inside the door. Now it was no issue; just one easy to remove/replace screw.

It is not a complicated job at all BUT ... it is quite a PITA with EU homologated size hands/fingers. I am rather dextrous and sensitive with the fingers but you are either literally in the dark or need an extra appendage to shine light.
You need to lift the latch a bit to be able to get the rod back in. You also need the window up so a bit of light helps to coordinate the double sided 3D manipulation.

Anyway; done. Will try to dot the ´i´ and transfer the bit of transfer.


(https://i.ibb.co/dgQdCqq/Deurbling2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dgQdCqq)
(https://i.ibb.co/wwrC3hB/Deurbling3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wwrC3hB)
(https://i.ibb.co/TtDG6kd/Deurbling4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TtDG6kd)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 7, 2022, 13:10
...and ftted the other one today.
Took me half an hour in all.
Does not blíng all that much at the wall side under the carport but here it is:

(https://i.ibb.co/LRnr09t/Deurbling5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LRnr09t)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: J88TEO on December 7, 2022, 14:51
I like those rear view mirrors!
Pity they were not in Sable grey or I3E!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 7, 2022, 15:33
Quote from: J88TEO on December  7, 2022, 14:51I like those rear view mirrors!

I´ve liked/wanted the chrome door grips for a long time but as only chrome accent... nâh. The chrome mirrors were thus júst the thing and also appear less bulky.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 10, 2022, 23:22
Have a cunning plan.
Basically take 2 of the first version of same.
The first plan was cunning alright but the execution backfired. Pun intended: It is about the exhaust.

Freeing up some ponies from the 1ZZ-FE stable is all about pumping losses before and after the pump.
The intake I have sorted as far as it will go but that makes little sense if the thing cannot pump it oút.
So exhaust it is.

The mk1 cunning plan was to delete the OEM cat pipe ánd fit a free flow muffler.
It worked a treat and unleashed all the ponies stabled up.
It was too loud though so refitted the cat. Not thát cunning excution thus.

Still sóme ponies more running as the OEM muffler restricts a bit too ánd a lot of weight above and beyond shed. Unfortunately the plod thought it stíll to loud and I got fined for it.

What now?
Back to plan A but fit a better muffling muffler.
Pounced on a JDM street legal sports muffler: Featherlight, flowing well and supposedly nicely quiet. Pricey and fingers crossed it turns out to be cunning enough  :-*
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: J88TEO on December 11, 2022, 19:34
Quote from: Petrus on December 10, 2022, 23:22Pounced on a JDM street legal sports muffler
I am very tempted to import one from Japan!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 12, 2022, 07:53
Quote from: J88TEO on December 11, 2022, 19:34I am very tempted to import one from Japan!

Stopped myself from that may times; pay enough taxes on all sort unavoidable.

Came one up in France.

Fingers crossed all goes well-
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 24, 2022, 13:42
After a rocky start the parcel has now been processed in Madrid distribution centre. Because of X-mas scheduled to be delivered Tuesday. Fitting planned for Wednesday. Hope I did not jinx it now  ::)
Will dig the decat pipe out Sunday/Monday.

(https://i.ibb.co/Bj6Ps8S/Amuse4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Bj6Ps8S)

(https://i.ibb.co/y4mqpx3/Amuse3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/y4mqpx3)

Just this week Amuse has published that they are stopping with the Titanium R1 product lines, So a blíng collectors item :-)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 27, 2022, 10:55
Looks light and  8)


(https://i.ibb.co/4RNxcSc/Amuse5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4RNxcSc)


Seriously, it is seriously light. Weighs less than the rvs decat pipe.
The set weighs júst shy of 8 kg. 
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on December 27, 2022, 13:14
Good demo of the lightness.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 27, 2022, 13:42
Quote from: Ardent on December 27, 2022, 13:14Good demo of the lightness.

Hilárious btw.: That is how Í intended the photo. How Í see it. How my son sees it, my childhood friend in the Netherlands sees it, the mechanic in the garage sees it.
The fémale friends however, see it as me being the six million $ man  :))  :))
It really is binary.
But hey best not make them any the wiser no  8)  but more probably théy let me thínk so...
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 28, 2022, 11:14
Yesterday it went a bit unfriendly with the three amigos. Had to find a new bolt so completed it this morning.
The end ´tip´ looked ludicrous so cut it off.

With the decat pipe and OEM cat pipe next to eachother the restriction in the flex 2-1 part of the latter is strikingly obvious. Small wonder the engine/car feels throttled with it mounted versus decat.

When warm the sound is just right.
Less loud than the cat + just repacked DIY absorbtion damper. 
No drone on the highway.
Does respond a lót better. Tried it up to 190 km/h.



(https://i.ibb.co/nDmHQFw/Amuse6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nDmHQFw)

(https://i.ibb.co/wpgMMcv/Amuse7.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wpgMMcv)

(https://i.ibb.co/YX2Qqrg/Amuse8.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YX2Qqrg)

Yes, I did make a video at 1 m. behind the car to record the sound but have lost the plot of youtube so can´t upload/link. Sorry.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on December 28, 2022, 17:52
Vid can be watched here.  8)

Amuse Titanium zorst (https://1drv.ms/v/s!AjKQRUlKMbdSg6NuTz2_WcBYud0RRw?e=niqHlM)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 28, 2022, 17:55
Jason to the rescue. Double like!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 29, 2022, 10:12
Quote from: Petrus on December 28, 2022, 11:14(https://i.ibb.co/YX2Qqrg/Amuse8.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YX2Qqrg)

Btw @Ardent  and @Dev this looks só  8)  that I whish I could take photos like you guys and capture it as I séé it.
It is totally as I like (some) things; hidden bling.
I´d have a proper photo of it as screen saver. My current one is not family friendly  :-[
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on December 29, 2022, 20:28
 :o
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 29, 2022, 22:40
Rather an unexpected development is that J-spec has the B-pillar uprights of the soft top frame in stock!  :o
Makes sense as for track days/racing it is just about a mandatory thing to delete the soft top and fit the hard top.´
For mé with 300 sunny days/year the delete is a feasable thing for regular use ánd I already have the tonneau cover apart from a hard top so... ordered a set.
Should be over 20 kilo of lightness added in one go and high up too 8)

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 31, 2022, 12:04
Written 21 Okt 2018:

QuoteWhat I am  :o about is the weight of the exhaust system:
Stock muffler weights close to 13 kilo. Stock midpipe weights 7.3kg and the stock manifold 5.85kg. Say 26 kilo.
The midpipe with cat is not thát heavy and not a lot can be saved there, but the muffler...
A JDM street legal titanium cat back is as silent as stock and weighs 3,5 kilo. Ok, the cost is silly but it does proove a point.
As the muffler sits high and what´s more BEHIND the rear axle any weight shed there is also ´re-loading´ the front.
I am só looking at this.


4 years  :o and several cunning exhaust plans  ::)  later, I have the system I wanted  8) 
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 8, 2023, 15:05
The stripped off soft top brackets have been prepared for shipping tomorrow. All well and good and a very fast solution to add significant lightness but... as always the anticipation creates an itch needing a scratch  :o
 
Thus retequerethinking a Lexan windschreen  ::) 
Buying a pro made one is not happening because of the aditional costs for shipping and import so looking at diy agaín. Should have opportunity to start up things coming week. Would like to have it fitted late March/ early April.

The Plan:
- drop by at Mati´s and call the window fitters
- have Mati cut and finish a replica in 5 mm Lexan
- mask and spray paint the black edge myself
- have Samuel make a sticker copy in mirror image of the Toyota glass homolation marking
- prepare sand bags to hold the Lexan in place while the pu sets
- call the local windscreen repair at home service to do the replacing and transfer the mirror bung


Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 12, 2023, 16:17
Read up some threads on Lotus fora. Seems that the ones who mounted in kit are ok.

The weight saving is consistent
Stock glass = 24 lbs
Speedglass = 11 lbs
and the MR2 one is definitely not smaller thus 13 lbs; nearly 6 kilos seems reasonable to expect.

Was blown away by the $$ they mentioned. I hope to be ready under 250€ hence my observation about vfm weight saving.

The softtop brackets should now be knocking at the doors of Spanish customs.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 27, 2023, 01:39
Still too ccccóld to faff with plastisc so what dó you do??

The relativity of fastener weight;  https://itafasteners.com/weight-chart.php

Nevertheless, saw some cheap reduced head aluminum ones so ordered two bags of 40 pcs with some nuts. Although it adds up quickly, would not know where to find thát many on the ZZW30 but I will swap out anywhichone I see. May will add a whole pound of lightness there  :))

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 28, 2023, 22:57
While the first bags are still under way, had a dedicated look at which/how many M6 would be candidates for alu replacements. Have ordered another bag (40 pcs) of 10 mm. long ones.

Not seen many M8 candidates. A pity because those are double the weight of M6 but one must be aware that M8 is used because M6 does not suffice so some caution with aluminium replacements is needed.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 3, 2023, 21:47
Found some M8s which could be replaced by alumium ones, so 20 under way.

I calculate that in all about 1 kg can be deleted.  Cost wise it is worthwhile but a bit silly nonetheless. Doing it for the heck of it only realy.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on March 3, 2023, 21:59
"Doing it for the heck of it only realy."

I will happily delete if required. Or not object if it's done automatically.

(https://i.ibb.co/zSSFxmv/IMG-20230121-112630-824.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zSSFxmv)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 3, 2023, 23:28
Quote from: Ardent on March  3, 2023, 21:59"Doing it for the heck of it only realy."


Ok, I admit; álso because I want to beat 900 kg tanked up; the F1 starting weight  :))
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on March 4, 2023, 08:09
You're going the wrong way.
You need to be adding mass to emulate f1.
 8)
Screenshot_20230304_080717_Samsung Internet.jpg
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 4, 2023, 10:03
Quote from: Ardent on March  4, 2023, 08:09You're going the wrong way.
You need to be adding mass to emulate f1.

It is stunning yes, The minimum weight is 905 kg with full fuel.
Had a bit of a ´moment´.
Richelle´s dad came over to stay two weeks for #1 son´s birthday. So an extra room had to be readied to perfection. Not just rendering walls and painting but Richelle also had a major clear out.
After that my tonneau was missing  :o
It was nowhere to be found.
Just ÓNE option remained: In Jolly, the 340. That however is stored for the winter, packed in like ... something very well packed in for the winter.
ALso, if it was not in there, it would have been thrown out. I have managed to contain my stress about that but mán was I gutted about just tye anticipation of being gutted about the possibility.
I may have above avarage gumption, but nothng human is alien to me  :-*
Today fínally collected courage and YESSS!!!!!
Phew.
That thing means súch a lót of different aspects. From the romantics, the making, the functionality, the über 8)  uniqueness to currently the 20 kg lightness of the hood delete.
Phew2

Seems the cold spell is ending. The alu M6/M8 in underway, anti seize already in*, the tonneau found. Yeeehaaaa!!!!

* was a small parcel at the gas station and Richelle had opened it, wondered about what on éarth ´anti seize paste´ was. I said special sex lubricant. You should have seen her face  :))
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on March 4, 2023, 11:16
Phew indeed on the T cover.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 8, 2023, 10:55
Replaced a few:
An M6 x 10 mm aluminium Allen mushroom head is 5 gramms lighter than the 15 mm steel OEM one.

Ok, in itself a lot per screw but still ´only´ 5 gramm deleted per screw, but even just 20 alu vs steel OEM in a small plastic bag is quite a notable difference in the hand.
Just wave your outstretched hand with a milk carton in it. Thát is the effect in kinetic energy on the car.

Thus will keep replacing whenever I get somewhere in/on the car. Also looking forward to the M8 ones as those should tick off double the M6 gains 👍

Feel more confident that I use alu mounting paste btw. Not just because of galvanic corrosion but also it screws in just a bit tighter. It is only alumium vs steel after all. 

Bottom line my opinion remains the same: Although relatively cheap lightness adding, it is a lot of faffing for say 1 kg. But in my defence; every next kg gets less easy to delete.  When not just for the heck of it, not really worth it imo.

p,s, the resident female wondered what I was doing with car/screws/micro scales. When #1 son ordered the screw she had looked at the ceiling.  So I handed her a plastic bag with a dozen replaced OEM screws. Then a bag with ditto replacements. She was surprised, almost shocked. Now, it fééls more shocking than it is in total  because the difference is indeed 5 to 1.  It is just not thát many screws. But, she is impressed. Nice bonus indeed.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 11, 2023, 11:29
And indeed 10 gram per M8.
Ok, so only 100 gram but then only 10 bolts.
Again, the 200 gram sofar is only 200 gram but when in a plastic bag the factor makes for a spectacular difference in the hand.
Why 5 when aluminium is 1/3 the weight?
Well, the screws/nuts/bolts are airgun fitted in the factory and all are overly long plus several have an extra tapered beginning. Also may have twó rings and lastly the mushroom Allen heads are smaller.

Sofar not a single rusted fitting. Several were however tight/seizing with whitish deposit. Glad I am using the mounting paste making the alu ones slíííde in.
Also happy with the black anodizing;  does not stand out.

Right going to play some more with ´lightening bolts´.

(https://i.ibb.co/X8X7RGM/Boutjes-M8-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/X8X7RGM)

(https://i.ibb.co/82FmCW0/Boutjes-M8-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/82FmCW0)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 15, 2023, 14:44
Got to just over 300 gramms.
Will need some more M8 and awaiting more M6 but I doubt I wll get to 500 gramm as I am on the coutious side.
Still, the replaced bolts in a plastic bag feels quite satifying.

Meanwhile the weather is improving mah´velously so planing to delete the soft top in two weeks when #1 son is here again.
No doubt refitting will involve some replacing of screws too.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 13, 2023, 16:15
Last week would have wanted to delete the soft top but #1 son had a desperate plead for him to work in the mountains and being a poor student earning money had priority.
So went on faffing with aluminimum lightening bolts. Only júst short of 500 gramms now.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 24, 2023, 21:46
Compared mine with a stock one:

https://www.mr2roc.org/index.php?topic=74008.0

the net result through  the accelerometer of the performance app was a bit beyond expectation.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 2, 2023, 12:25
STILL not deleted the soft top  :-[
Life keeps getting in the way  ::)
But all fún ways  ;D

This weekend (yesterday inluded a national holliday) several examples of the look of my MR2 being a bonus.
Emptied over half a tank enjoying local mountain twisties too narrow for a line in the middle.
The road sign meaning: ´Over 800 metersstart 50 kilometers of twisties!´

(https://i.ibb.co/kJZC6cc/Fake-Birthday4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kJZC6cc)


Ok let me begin at the beginning. The weekend starts with #1 son getting my birthday wrong and planning a surprise long weekend at the farm.
He tells his mother so shé knows for shopping et al but not to tell me so he could surprise me Friday afternon. Which she of course does. Tell me.
Which is lucky because she was not aware/ had forgotten that I was Friday going to stay over at the coast with a love.
So I call the love.
Which is lucky because she was stressed about her sister in law possibly dropping by Friday evening.
We would celebrate my fakebirthday Monday she said over the moon.

Fast forward to Sunday and there is a horse fair in the village. I go have a look. There is an ex colleque of the Proteccion Civil at the entrance. We have an animated chat and two Policia Local walk upto join the chat. One old hand one fresh new, The old hand and the ex collegue tell/explain the freshman that I have a loud cabrio with stickers and a silly big wing. ´Ah´ the freshman says ´so he has the sidecar ánd that cabrio?!´ and tells we already had made acquaintance when I was on the town square with my Nimbus.
´Well, we need not say more than´ the old hand observes  O:-)
Anyway, that is the new crop of Policia Local informed about being lenient with the silly MR2  :))

Monday down to the coast love is waiting at the door happy to see me.
She has a véry nice place at a prime location.
Here´s the view from the balcony:

(https://i.ibb.co/ryxM8PQ/Fake-Birthday1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ryxM8PQ)

We get re-acquainted, shower, have a glass and go out.
She insists we go to a góód place so she can properly treat me with a fine diner for my fake-birthday.
Ihe place is a bit up on the southern slope of the mountains above the local lake.
wónderfull twisties again, the last bit challenging tricky, nooooo traffic whatsoever and I manage to not overcook her exitement info fright/fear.

Back at her place parking is a bit of a challenge but there is a spot free almost dead in front.
Fast forward to this morning, a Spanish neighbor rings the doorphonething and because my chinese is about on par with love´s spanish she call me out of bed. The neighbor telles me in THE most polite way that my car is illegally parked and the police will come by on their morning round, put a fine on it and have it towed.
Double WOW  :o
1. ever so nice of the neighbor
2. no way I had seen that!
The neighbor and her husband are waiting at the car and explain it is a trap.
I now see that indeed there are rudimentary remnants of a yellow line júst visible at daylight íf you know they are there.
Two cars further it ís allowed ánd ther eis a spot free so easily solved.
The husband was curious about the car, enjoyed me starting/moving it.
The woman had seen mé and because the car stands out in a fun way ....
Still talking at/about the jñust moved car, the police passes.
Lucky!

Back in, the love has coffee and fruit cake for my fake-birthday. Will come back to the coffee.
´Say Petrus´ about last night...´ (she woke me up at 04.00) ´I don´t know what came into me...´ Well thank you for the compliment  >:D
Don´t know what she´d been reading; this was on her bed side table:

(https://i.ibb.co/nBQn6Kg/Fake-Birthday3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nBQn6Kg)

Anyway, the coffee.
An übercool Japanese quick one cup. Like freshly ground coffee in a drip filter. Só well designed even the ´abre facil´ worked a treat for me!
It is a véry good cup on par with a good one from a bar machine.


(https://i.ibb.co/fn5NkFW/Fake-Birthday2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fn5NkFW)

Time to go and I take the longer, most twisty alternatives.
Appearangtly more had had a great day yesterday because the huge truck I came up behind pulled over and waved me past. Like that was not amazing enough the Audi I come up behind further on ditto  :o
It is the manga look of the car no doubt.

Almost back stop at the local watering hole for a quick top up of caffein to balance the missed sleep.
I walk up to a table and arrive ther at the same time as the waiter with my coffee: ´Seen you pull up of course´ he comments with abroad smile.
When I walk up to the bar to pay the owner asks what I want. Well pay. No he says, today it is ´dia del cliente´  and you are the lucky one  ;D  he days.

Yes I am!

Back at the farm the charming company is happy to see me and tells me I have been lucky, pointing to the rear diffuser. She found it lying on the green mid ridge when she went to the village. Lucky indeed that I had lost it on the drive and not somewhere out on the road in front of somene and that she had spotted it before driving over.
Not refitting it. Both lighter and  appearantly safer.

For those who missed it: The chinese letter sign in the side decal means ´lucky dragon´ and the dragon figurine on the dash is a pure coïncidence lucky charm from wáy back.



Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 30, 2023, 22:00
Today started the Periodic Inspection Process. Phase 1; refit cat (not Kitty) and OEM muffler done.

Meanwhile #1 son has the plan to 3D print carbonfibre parts. Not sure which parts would be candidates but I will fund it regardless as it is also a learning process fom hím.

Ah and have rekindled the lexan windscreen plan.

The lighter weight is só enticing.  There is simply nothing comparable. Pity lighter brakes are nor feasable with the red tape here.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 31, 2023, 12:57
Quote from: Petrus on May 30, 2023, 22:00Ah and have rekindled the lexan windscreen plan.

´Good afternoon Petrus,

I'm sorry, I don't hold any data to produce the MR2 MK3 Spyder windscreen.

Best wishes

Alex

Sales Team
 
Plastics 4 Performance Limited´



Hmmm. That´s the by far easier (but more costly) off the list.

Most of the PIP list too. Resident female even lent a hand swapping the bonnet.

Had a bit of a senior moment :o : The horn does not work!!! :o   Dûh, have disconnected the battery... ::)

Phew, done.
Appointment oops. Last few times it was next day, well now it is not, Tant pis.

Ah and found that  4 M8 screws (per seat) are possibles for aluminium.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on May 31, 2023, 21:57
Quote from: Petrus on May 31, 2023, 12:57Ah and found that  4 M8 screws (per seat) are possibles for aluminium.

A small win is a still a win.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on May 31, 2023, 22:18
Quote from: Ardent on May 31, 2023, 21:57A small win is a still a win.

All those little wins are adding up to well over half a kilo. Not all that much in the grand scheme of a whole car but véry satisfactory if you hold the bag in your hand  :-*

Will try to have a go at removing sóme of the webbing under the bonnet. Should ne more than a pound too.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 7, 2023, 10:48
A day getting it to passable OEM spec.
Passed inspection early this morning.
Most back to mý spec already.
Now first pulling fresh espresso.
Seats need to wait till it stops raining anyway.

p.s. come to think of it; this is the thírd time running they did not even lift the engine lid. Just the front to check the chassis # . 
If I´d fit the nappies I could get away with anything in there which does not make conspicuous noises and passes emission norms. Not that I will because the car is quite quick enough, just an observation.

And still rain, glórious rain!!!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 8, 2023, 09:30

Spoiler alert  ;D

Rather bad weather yesterday; stormy rain.
Now, pussyfooting about does not tell you anything so after the inspection stepped on it. Réally stepped on it. Like nudgng 200 km/h stepped on it.
So ok, it is at speed notably quicker without the silly big wing but also even more nervous. The wing makes the car a lot more stable and (appear) surefooted. A lót!
Less quick at speed is for me a moot point as we are speaking public road. More stability though ís important especially on public road.
As such it was the fírst thing I refitted.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 9, 2023, 11:12
Linked to the spoiler thing are the subects of a rear splitter and the parachute effect of the rear bumper skirt which @Carolyn  adressed with brackets to hold it neatly put with the nappy removed.
For mé there is no doubt that opening up the rear improves air flow through the engine bay ánd reduces drag.
When #1 son is back we will take dremel and electric saw out to reduce the parachute effect  :))  I guess 200 gramm lightness added too  ;)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 15, 2023, 10:53
Tis but a detail, so detailing but with a difference.
There are several ways to reduce the drag of the rear bumper under/lower end.
The high tech one is to go proper diffuser. At the other end of options is deleting the whole bumper shirt or at least the lower half. And several in between.
I went a small, 85 mm., step towards reducing the lower half.

As a perperctive:
On Miata a test was done at 160 km/h. 
A cut down bumper gave 6 kilo of downforce extra and 1 kg less drag.
A proper full size racing diifuse gave 18 kg extra downforce and only 0.75 kg less drag.
Marginal gains, even less because I moderately cut back only, but it doés work.

Have help of #1 son, so he did most of the ground work  ;D

Just did a test drive with two cars and it does not flap the least bit anymore. Have not weighed the bit cut off, yet.

Now I have; 305 gramms. A lót less work than finding same in enlightened fasteners.
Better aero, less flapping by adding lightness detailing.





(https://i.ibb.co/0QHgwDL/MR2-Parachute1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0QHgwDL)

(https://i.ibb.co/KsG2pb9/MR2-Parachute2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KsG2pb9)

(https://i.ibb.co/9TLyFMT/MR2-Parachute3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9TLyFMT)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 15, 2023, 12:00
Next aero thingamy will be fitting the little air dams which are ahead of the front wheels also ahead of the rear ones:

https://www.wrcwings.tech/2018/09/19/wheels-impact-on-the-aerodynamics-of-a-wrc-car/

Since those are pretty much universal on many cars, will have a look after lunch at the breakers up the road. Fingers x-ed.


(https://forums.hybridz.org/uploads/1/4/4/3/9/wheel%20flap%20mod.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 15, 2023, 14:10
Nope. The Mer-deux has no surface for easy fitment. Ok, off the list. No weight added then.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 16, 2023, 15:59
#1 son said; ´wait´
Crawled under the car with some tools and during drinks & tapas on thetrrace of the local Venta designed a thing.
This morning invested an hour in teaching me some printer instructing.
Next prototype printed in cheap material.
Test fitted and some mods noted.
Design adjusted and printed in the sturdy black stuff:


(https://i.ibb.co/gSq87r4/MR2airdam-Links-O.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gSq87r4)



Was a bit of a faff to fit it but that was only working the best how to out.

Right, left one fitted.


(https://i.ibb.co/3sh0bMX/MR2airdam-Links2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3sh0bMX)

(https://i.ibb.co/k0TgVZM/MR2airdam-Links3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k0TgVZM)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: J88TEO on June 16, 2023, 16:14
Doesn't a set of mudflaps do the job?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 16, 2023, 16:42
Quote from: J88TEO on June 16, 2023, 16:14Doesn't a set of mudflaps do the job?

No.

The second is off the printer now too, so back to rolling on the gravel. Well on the carton on the gravel.

DÓNE!!!


(https://i.ibb.co/3vpt6W1/MR2airdam-Rechts1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3vpt6W1)


(https://i.ibb.co/6bk2Pbp/MR2airdam-Rechts2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6bk2Pbp)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 20, 2023, 15:07
In Portugal now.
GREAT drive over mainly back roads. The fresh 195/50 82V is just what the doctor ordered.
Left in a dry window between thunderstorms thus top up.
Sun towards the west so folded in down halfway and we managed to sunburn the face like proper tourists.
Saw a warning for cattle crossing and it sure was a big one  :o

Stickered the country sign post at the deserted border crossing. The sleepy dog opened one eye only.
Today met up with Jason at his holiday destination. Poor bloke  ;) so we kept it short.


(https://i.ibb.co/ngV8mHd/Portugal-Start.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ngV8mHd)

(https://i.ibb.co/RQYXHYS/Bull-Crossing.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RQYXHYS)


(https://i.ibb.co/xYdyz4v/Portugal-Stickered.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xYdyz4v)


(https://i.ibb.co/d25Gznz/Portugal1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/d25Gznz)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on June 20, 2023, 23:11
The cattle crossing sign picture needs to be opened up for the reader to better understand, revealed  will be an advertisement for Osborne brandy.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 22, 2023, 09:17
Met @Ardent in Monte Gordo. We had dusted off our best english and had a réally good time on the same wavel length. Thanks Jason for giving us a reason to go on the road again together!!

The car (before I get complaints from the followers about it being cár forum  ::) ) was all you could want for spirited driving twisty bits hrough the Iberian interior.
We have done some 1200 kms, 300 of which highway, the rest properly challenging with highly amusing surprises. Ok, not as far outside the manual as the camino trips we did but still variations in road design you can nót invent yourself in your wldest dreams. One part in the Portugse mountainous bit towards the border, we came upon a ´road narrowing´ sign. Yup; right át the sing one half of the road was gone. Absolutely brilliant smooth new tarmac from the next twisting blind coners up and down blind crests stretch. All ten kilomters of it  ;D  Wonderful driving joy!
Good surface, bad surfaces, worse surfaces, the car was more than a match for everything, period!
Correct decision to go fresh 195/50 front. The júst that bit more precise steering and fresh grip were USED  :))

For the largest parts we had no traffic. I mean, not a few cars, no, NO cars. Seriously tens of kms without a single car on the road.
We had made a simple sort of road book both out and back. Súch a relaxing joy if the passenger understands what the driver needs to know and when.

About halfway on the way back we topped a mountain pass in the Sierra Morena aptly called Paso Blanco after the winter colour.
We stopped at the Venta on top, with incredible cereativity called... Paso Blanco.
15.00 hrs. so the hottest of the day, 35 centigrades, blasting up the deserted muntain road. Parked in the blazing sun. 20 minutes pause and... the temperature gauge had gone halfway DOWN  :o

Summed up:
Burbling through villages and rípping the country roads.
This is one real world fun car indeed.
At the stops and also from the (few) cars we encountered, epecially in Portugal, we had appreciating responses to the car. It looks and is is a toy Toy ;-)


(https://i.ibb.co/gS2DgQZ/Grens-Espa-a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gS2DgQZ)


(https://i.ibb.co/6bGhRt8/Grens-Espa-a2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6bGhRt8)


and by @Ardent

(https://i.ibb.co/zVxj9Gk/Monte-Gordo1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zVxj9Gk)


(https://i.ibb.co/6Y4hpWP/Monte-Gordo2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6Y4hpWP)


(https://i.ibb.co/6R2dd4Q/Monte-Gordo3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6R2dd4Q)


Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Gibla on June 22, 2023, 12:04
Really like the black bonnet n bumper with the silver :) (along with the hint of red) ....the appearance is seemingly matching the performance now.....kudos
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 22, 2023, 14:05
Quote from: Gibla on June 22, 2023, 12:04Really like the black bonnet n bumper with the silver :) (along with the hint of red) ....the appearance is seemingly matching the performance now.....kudos

Planning to stick our rally competition # on the bonnet; should be worth another 20 hp.  :))  :))
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Gibla on June 22, 2023, 15:18
Some hints of the Lancia Fulvia  ;D
(https://i.ibb.co/LSPfHkV/Screenshot-2023-06-22-15-16-27.png) (https://ibb.co/LSPfHkV)

(https://i.ibb.co/LSPfHkV/Screenshot-2023-06-22-15-16-27.png) (https://ibb.co/LSPfHkV)

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 22, 2023, 15:33
Quote from: Gibla on June 22, 2023, 15:18Some hints of the Lancia Fulvia  ;D


We have two black bonnet rally prepped oldies right here. Same thing the aux. lights.  The little frog fits in nicely. Would fit in nicer still with the same number stuck on  ;)  ;)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 22, 2023, 22:58
Meanwhile a potentential weight shave again.
Prius 2, of all things  :)) , brake calipers are supposed to fit and save 1 kg. each.
Too good/cheap not to try.
Found two refurbished ones and they are underway.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 24, 2023, 21:40
Looks like the MR2 pads can be used!!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Nvy on June 25, 2023, 06:44
Quote from: Petrus on June 24, 2023, 21:40Looks like the MR2 pads can be used!!

For 1 kg each side id be all over this. If we can get anybody to draw a rotor hat so that we can fit floating discs I can look into making them locally. We can save some more weight for sure.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 25, 2023, 08:33
Quote from: Nvy on June 25, 2023, 06:44For 1 kg each side id be all over this. If we can get anybody to draw a rotor hat so that we can fit floating discs I can look into making them locally. We can save some more weight for sure.

Moddifying the hats will not pass technical inspection here.

It looks to be 1.2 kg each side so ám all over it  ;D
An adventurous mishap is hampering my athletics a bit so no rolling on the drive   ::)  which means some extra patience till I can get Belle on a bridge.  Apart from deleting more weight I am véry amxious to get a hybrid part on the nearly classed historic car but a week will fly by  :))

As to the long term effect I think they will be ok on a little much lighter cabrio. More so because the brackets stay OEM and take the wear and tear of the pads.

Lasty the reduction of unsprung weight improves road contact = improves safety.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on June 28, 2023, 13:49
Right.
Paint, dry, fit, drive.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 1, 2023, 00:06
Brakes done, fuel ´modded´, oil checked/topped up, vibrating culprit (I think) tweaked, OCDcleaned windshield. Ready for a spirited drive.

What a foresight: The gf for this evening/night said she´d lóve me taking her for breakfast at a new place at lake Iznajar. 
Hmmm. That dampens the spirit of the drive, so ; ´only if you wear the ´gipsy´ dress (hardly) nó underwear.´ "Ok." Well that is spirited too  O:-)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 2, 2023, 10:19
Yes, drivers heaven here. The car was perfect too. Well almost; the vibration is something else, but that´s a detail.
The route going roughly south east the charming company had the sun in the face, perfectly comofortable on a garden seat cushion in the seat holding her firmly in place.
With the fresh front rubber absolutely perfect, I could drive the lines as I intended, controlled sliding even without needing to correct.
The tarmac being generally in good condition, the corners and exhaust note combined into an almlost hypnotic rythm.
Me enjoying the quite hard ´work´, my companion... DOZING OFF!!!! 
About half an hour on, stopped* at a Venta and asked if she enjoyed her nap.
An unashamed giggle; ´yes I know we had great sights and that we were zápping the road but I can just relax in this seat and your smooth driving. The warming sun did the rest.´

* Stopping the car in front of the terrace there were some kids standing about eating sweets. The oldest an about 9 year old boy staring literally agape at the car.
Came to a haltpractically at his feet and thought to give him a treat; révved the engine, which resulted in an impressive roar reverberating under the roofed terrace. He júmped! Really jumped  ;D
After letting the engine tick over a minute, got out and waved him closer for the school boy routine. Showed the Pokeball, opened the engine lid etc. His mum, granny, aunt and a gaggle of nieces hurried over too. Mum asking if she could take photos and started snapping jove knows how many.
The boy remained wide eyed flabbergasted, ´floating´ round the car. The girls skipping and laughing when they caught eyes of Hello Kitty, mum taking close ups. The band aid ´repair´ gave  the adult women a laughing fit. Again close ups  :))  :)) 
I was parched so egoistically desired water and did not first offer the boy to hop in behind the wheel. Alas, it happened they were just leaving so thanked me and climbed in the clapped out C15 designed to seat 3 less  :))
Yess, the playful manga theme ´is´ (personal opinion)  só much more enjoyable than (too) serious blokes enquiring about horse power and top speed.

Meanwhile the drinks and carne in salsa de almendras charming had ordered arrived.
Ahhhhh, the good life.




 
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: jvanzyl on July 2, 2023, 11:32
So... what's the opinion on the brakes???
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 2, 2023, 16:28
Quote from: jvanzyl on July  2, 2023, 11:32So... what's the opinion on the brakes???

Would prefer to have @JB21 share the more specific back to back experience first. I am just a forrinner pottering about see  ;)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: JB21 on July 2, 2023, 16:51
Not had a chance to fit them yet, need to order a replacement steel piston to match.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 3, 2023, 08:04
Quote from: JB21 on July  2, 2023, 16:51Not had a chance to fit them yet, need to order a replacement steel piston to match.

Best not prejudice you then.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 4, 2023, 09:14
Quote from: shnazzle on April 10, 2019, 22:22Significantly reduced unsprung weight... It's gotta be good!


Added another 1.2 kgs of lightness per front corner @shnazzle so 2.4 in total.

I find it über 8)  to have aluminium hybrid car calipers. More so as I appear to be the first and for the moment only one in the western world  :))  The latter is entirely ephemeral ofcourse.
The hybrid thing is subjective and appearantly polemic but Í think it hilárious.
Well, and the lightness ... nuff said ;D  :))  :))

This while F1 minimum weight looks to go úp again per 2026 rules changes. This, like the silly big wheels, being entirely EV/hybrid marketing makes the Prius calipers on the MR2 even more fun: In mý entirely personal opinion of course.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 4, 2023, 23:36
next...


(https://i.ibb.co/FByjZ7f/Carbifiber.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FByjZ7f)



depending a bit on how/what should  not be good for deleting much if any weight but the goal is learning to work with the stuff and any weight shaved a bonus.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on July 5, 2023, 08:50
Quote from: Petrus on July  4, 2023, 23:36next...


(https://i.ibb.co/FByjZ7f/Carbifiber.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FByjZ7f)



depending a bit on how/what should  not be good for deleting much if any weight but the goal is learning to work with the stuff and any weight shaved a bonus.


Just make sure it's "in date" and don't go deep sea diving with it!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 5, 2023, 10:09
Quote from: Joesson on July  5, 2023, 08:50Just make sure it's "in date" and don't go deep sea diving with it!

That sub thing is all media hype bs. In UK traffic there´s almost 5 fatalities per day in traffic which is basically risk we cannot avoid, do in general not chóóse.

Anyway nuff said. The carbon stuff is little more than a strong version of grp. Vacuum infused good quality yes but not proper high temp cured stuff.
Mostly fun learning and the brackets I am looking at may be half the weight. Or not.
Depending on how it goes and how strong it turns out may buy another kit and replicate the cross brace behind the seats. Thát should save weight; big íf...

Right, meanwhile having great fun top down under the sun. Currently enjoying a cool drink on a terrace in Linares. Another 250 or so kms of lightweight fun to go  8)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 5, 2023, 19:19
The invisible lighter brakes mod.


(https://i.ibb.co/cCxX492/MR2Prius.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cCxX492)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 5, 2023, 23:03
For the technically curious:

Conclusions Thus the results of the calculations conducted allow to conclude that the reduction of unsprung weights has  a  positive impact on the drawing, dynamic and fuel economy characteristics of mobile vehicles,  their stability and maneuverability,  the load on the wheels,  tires and roads. 
It also has an insignificant effect on the operating conditions of springing and dissipative elements of the suspensions as well as on the smoothness of the ride. This contradicts the generally accepted opinion stated at the beginning of the article.*


- On the impact of unsprung weight of mobile vehicles
March 2020IOP Conference Series Materials Science and Engineering 747(1):012113
DOI:10.1088/1757-899X/747/1/012113

* my note: this refers to the (today very much underlined; rara why...) opinion that heavier wheels give a ´beter ride´ because they are less affected by undulations.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: JB21 on July 6, 2023, 08:01
Quote from: Petrus on July  5, 2023, 23:03For the technically curious:

Conclusions Thus the results of the calculations conducted allow to conclude that the reduction of unsprung weights has  a  positive impact on the drawing, dynamic and fuel economy characteristics of mobile vehicles,  their stability and maneuverability,  the load on the wheels,  tires and roads. 
It also has an insignificant effect on the operating conditions of springing and dissipative elements of the suspensions as well as on the smoothness of the ride. This contradicts the generally accepted opinion stated at the beginning of the article.*


- On the impact of unsprung weight of mobile vehicles
March 2020IOP Conference Series Materials Science and Engineering 747(1):012113
DOI:10.1088/1757-899X/747/1/012113

* my note: this refers to the (today very much underlined; rara why...) opinion that heavier wheels give a ´beter ride´ because they are less affected by undulations.

Never mind all the technical jargon, how do they perform vs the MR2 caliper? Do they give more bite?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 6, 2023, 09:23
Quote from: JB21 on July  6, 2023, 08:01Never mind all the technical jargon, how do they perform vs the MR2 caliper? Do they give more bite?

The difference is minimal.
The sensitive braker will notice slightly better braking, with even more slight shift to front and yes a tiny bit more bite.
Bottom line is that the 10% larger piston surface gives more braking power at the same foot pressure. There is NO noticeable increased pedal travel; the same modulation and as such it is something you get accustomed to and adjust to immediately.
On a race track, with less interference from the road surface you will notice the difference better.

Apart from that, the reduction in unsprung weight improves road contact, which is a fat WIN especially on real world roads.

All in mý entirely personal opinion of course.
A3VT! I say  8)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: JB21 on July 6, 2023, 13:41
Quote from: Petrus on July  6, 2023, 09:23The difference is minimal.
The sensitive braker will notice slightly better braking, with even more slight shift to front and yes a tiny bit more bite.
Bottom line is that the 10% larger piston surface gives more braking power at the same foot pressure. There is NO noticeable increased pedal travel; the same modulation and as such it is something you get accustomed to and adjust to immediately.
On a race track, with less interference from the road surface you will notice the difference better.

Apart from that, the reduction in unsprung weight improves road contact, which is a fat WIN especially on real world roads.

All in mý entirely personal opinion of course.
A3VT! I say  8)

Still not fitted mine, but plan to tomorrow. I'm not going to do back to back testing vs the MR2 caliper now given your review. I'm just going to fit them with new pads.

Also, I've noticed you can actually fit the calipers to either side of the car, they aren't handed as both state 'L' and 'R' on each caliper. I am however going to fit them with the bleed nipple at the top to aid air release when bleeding. Have you done the same?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 6, 2023, 14:56
Quote from: JB21 on July  6, 2023, 13:41going to fit them with the bleed nipple at the top to aid air release when bleeding. Have you done the same?

Seems the logical one to me. Actually did not give it a thought.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 7, 2023, 12:32
Nice one today:
#1 son and me were taking about the Maserati MC20 and obviously my MR2 when his mom commented that mine is cheap enough in everything; that it is quite justifiable/acceptable to spend extra money on.  WOW  :o

Pity I can´t think of something  ::)

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 7, 2023, 14:50
Quote from: Nvy on June 25, 2023, 06:44If we can get anybody to draw a rotor hat so that we can fit floating discs I can look into making them locally.

Sent you the details specs/drawing by Brembo. There is not all thát much weight to be gained.


(https://www.bremboparts.com/en/media/product/images/1000-1000-fix/97f8bb5a-43a6-41e9-b209-9396c32ca2de)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on July 7, 2023, 23:28
I clearly missed something.
What's the brake upgrade?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: jvanzyl on July 8, 2023, 02:45
Quote from: shnazzle on July  7, 2023, 23:28I clearly missed something.
What's the brake upgrade?

lol- turns out you can use Prius calipers on the front and you save 1.2kg per side.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 8, 2023, 09:31
Quote from: shnazzle on July  7, 2023, 23:28I clearly missed something.
What's the brake upgrade?

as @jvanzyl responded.
The Prius2 calipers are made in aluminium with ceramic/plastic pistons (54mm) and fit without any faffing. Clean, paint, fit, drive.
Quite chuffed with it. A significant gain for peanuts made chaper still when you need to change fluid anyway and no hassle at all. If only all was like this.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: shnazzle on July 8, 2023, 12:38
Very nice find.

Similar to what I recently did to our other car.
Bigger caliper carriers from another car fit that were lighter and allowed for 30mm larger discs. Same calipers. Made a nifty difference

Funny how a bit of cross-pollination can lead to cost effective results
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 8, 2023, 17:06
Quote from: shnazzle on July  8, 2023, 12:38Funny how a bit of cross-pollination can lead to cost effective results

Susprising that it took 2 decades to reach our ´shores´   :o

Anyway, happy it reached mé  ;)  Am véry much chuffed with of course the lightness added but also with it being from the Prius  8)  It proves a point for me: The Toyota engineers bent even further backwards in weight reduction for the Prius than for their roadster...
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 11, 2023, 08:54
Adding lightness; the gift that keeps on giving: Faffing with the carbon crap thought of something different agaín.

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61auIywAVOL._AC_SL1024_.jpg)

Going to take some time though  ::)  getting the right sized tubing out here.

So, rédoubling the efforts to get to my own lightness regained. The good care by charming companies does have a down side  :-[
Cycling like a hare, eating like a rabbit, also the other thing rabbits do and the rediculous heat here helps as well. We are having 28 degrees C. at night and 42 - 44!! daytime. In the shade mind so the mid day sun is shunned by mad dogs even.
I trý to do have all cycling done before eleven-ish. Because of the high temps the heart pumps a lót faster and the muscles work better though they also ache more after. It tires me wáy more but it makes progress quicker too. Highly motivating! Lightness here I come.... :))
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 13, 2023, 19:49
Bits ordered: Should, fingers x-ed, be 1 kg deleted.
By the time it gets here and then me modding, I will have deleted several times that cycling. Most likely saving more than the cost of the bits on food  :))
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 25, 2023, 10:51
One annoyance waiting to go wrong replaced with lightness ;D


(https://i.ibb.co/1R8RFNM/MR2latch1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1R8RFNM)

(https://i.ibb.co/rZgMhGH/MR2-Latch3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rZgMhGH)

(https://i.ibb.co/TkzVqNY/MR2-Latch2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TkzVqNY)


Looks simpler than it was btw.   Even had to take out the universal tool compatible with any car; the angle/radial grinder ....
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 25, 2023, 18:41
Just moved some stuff around, among which the bag with the OEM brake calipers; BEEJEEZUS  :o  those 2,4 kilos of no-lightness sure make a difference!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 26, 2023, 10:52
I tótally dig your logic btw @Ardent.

Succinctly put; adding power has deminishing returns whereas adding lightness has increasing returns.

It is my main ´leitmotiv´ for my little spider.

Just fit a fresh disc to my angle grinder :-)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 27, 2023, 19:45
Had a nice excahnge of ideas with a powerful sports car enthusiast this morning.

Here is another jewel related to lightness even in straight line speed because traction is an interesting subject on itself with tyre load sensitivity a surprising bonus. Agaín lightness giving increasing returns.

Tire load sensitivity describes the behaviour of tires under load. Conventional pneumatic tires do not behave as classical friction theory would suggest. The load sensitivity of most real tires in their typical operating range is such that the coefficient of friction decreases as the vertical load, Fz, increases.

With the same rubber you get relatively móre traction with less weight (the friction coëfficient improves) thus the same power accellerates the decreased mass double quicker...  8)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 28, 2023, 11:15
With the angle grinder added some 575 gramms of lightness to the bonnet  8)
Point in case of increasing returns being:
This would have been 0.054 % lightness off the original GVW.
Nów it is 0.066 % off.


Both #1 son and his mom were horrified while I was at it but when finished had to admit to the sense of it, to me having done a neat job ánd that I had done it as safe as wielding an angle grinder comes.


Also done some extra walking & cycling to add lightness to my own chassis; this evening/night been invited for diner and dancing with twó charming companies and dining is always an energy intake challenge.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 29, 2023, 09:07
Pffffff---- Got a bit worn out last night. So no cycling today but took the dust bikini off the little spider and off top down into the mountains.
Ahhh, the fun of unstable directness and the responsiveness of lightness. You knów you can change line mid corner at a flick and stopping is reliably awesome.
And the sound....
Triple joy the supporting sound track of that Amuse exhaust! Burbling inoffensively when needed and the agressive rasp growing into the racing war cry when you like. Awesome sound, unequaled lightness and lastly it simply does nót soak up any heat.

Looking at her parked in front of the terrace of the Venta, contemplating the ideas ´at hand´:
The racing number adding 10 hp at least  :)) and adding more lightness; ´welding´ in the carbon rod, fingers crossed the Margard windshield.
And whatevvah more I think of  8)

Almost done with the typically andalu´ breakfast so nów time to ponder about which route to take, which way to steer up the sheer endlessly varied network of wonderful roads. Have little spider, will travel  ;)


Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 29, 2023, 18:35
Back, báck, BACK!! You performance sucking weight 


(https://i.ibb.co/tstnZcx/MR2-Gewicht-Hunter.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tstnZcx)


Von Petrus - excess weight hunter   8)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 30, 2023, 11:04
Quote from: Petrus on July 29, 2023, 09:07Pffffff---- Got a bit worn out last night. So no cycling today

Got a bit worn out this morning as well but twó days no cycling is just not on for the integral adding lightness project so in fairness to the little spider díd take the bike out. Did an alternative ditch finder action...  :o   Simply overcooked it on the gravel and the old heavy laptop in my sturdy hard paneled backpack did not add agility. Yep, see, weight again  :)) Amazingly enough not even a scratch!! Just the handlebars and saddle a bit shifted which was easily enough rectified: The perks of old tech  8)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 30, 2023, 21:14
Hmmmm...
Margard looks quite attractive:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LFHRV2fCn8
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on July 31, 2023, 16:54
Extreme temperature alert today. 40 degrees again.
Went out cycling nonetheless. Made a detour past the village. Unfortunately had to return later, so cycle agaín.

Next took the cabrio for an errant way beyond cycling distance, Went the scenic route and added a bit for extra fun with the unbearable lighteness of life ... and the car  :))
The extra bit passes around the rear of a truck stop to next go twisty. There is núnca nadíe on that stretch and I lóve to nail the corners with very good tarmac. Properly motoring, enjoying the Amuse sound track smelled diesel... OOOPS  :o   and seriously reduced speed. YEP the next few corners were painted with a widish trail of fresh diesel fuel! No way to avoid staining the left wheels but no problems of course.  Nice extra from open top driving that :o

A fair bit firther on there are three roundabouts befor I hook up to the next mountain bit. They are empty  :))  That is a bonus and the still a bit compromised inside tyres make for proper use of the lsd!!
The rest of the driveabout simply sheer bliss.
Ahhhhh.... la vida es bella  8)

Apparently we are having guacamole for ´diner´ tonight, freshly made from local aguacates, tomotoes and lime. I want extra hot chili tortilla chips with that so it is up to mé to go get those. YIPEEE, a valid reason to take the bicycle again.*

* have a ´hidden agenda´ with the extra pedalling. Hope to execute / unhide later this week  :))

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: inigopete on August 1, 2023, 14:01
I'm loving the updates and the quest for lightness! Slightly off-topic, but do you do the same with your bike(s) too?

That's historically more my area, I'm not obsessive but I'm happy to have a road bike that weighs under 6Kg.  8)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 1, 2023, 14:45
Quote from: inigopete on August  1, 2023, 14:01I'm loving the updates and the quest for lightness! Slightly off-topic, but do you do the same with your bike(s) too?

Yes. Even more so because they are human powered. Try cycling up from Granada to the very summit of Pico Veleta and all becomes clear. Ok, a bit less clear above 2000 metres but that just adds to the need for lightness  8)

Past tense though because my shoulder rurrently limits the geometry so I pedal an oldish city bike with extra high handlebars.
Far from the lightest or most smoothly running bike that per exception actually serves the purpose bétter. A heavier cycling bike costs more energy to pedal up the mountains here and the less smooth running keeps the speed down on the descends. Móre weight help me pee out more burned fat  :))

Ok, back on topic now.
Last week for the itsybitsy spider agaín used an alumium M6 Allen bolt from my old stock of motorbike racing days. The assortment of alu screws and bolts I ordered for the cár fell 10 mm. short.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 2, 2023, 18:11
YESSSSS!!! The carbonfiber tube is in. Beejeezeus that is líght  :o  (pedalled to the village and back) The carton tube it came in is séveral times heavier. Should save soem 700 gram. It is both lighter material and thinner wall. The drawback is obvious too because it will shatter like glass not just dent a bit.

Will replace good old steel tube (part# 65430B):

(https://www.spyderchat.com/cdn-cgi/image/format=auto,onerror=redirect,width=1920,height=1920,fit=scale-down/https://www.spyderchat.com/attachments/pxl_20230713_145613492-jpg.99153/)

Fingers (and toes) crossed it pans out. Not a lot of flexibility in the plan ;-)

When done will be invisible. Just like the alumium calipers. I think that an übercool extra.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 3, 2023, 08:30
Ladyfriend suggested with tongue in cheek I could use the angle grinder again. Said no worries but I probably will  8)
But, when #1 son is back this weekend. I will even wear glasses  O:-)  The disassembly and méasuring I can do myself in preparation. A silly amount of effort for much less than a kilo but if it pans out will think it über 8)
If and when, then I will have lost more weight on it myself  :))
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 3, 2023, 22:51
Just added up the lightness I´ve added since the last time I weighed the car and thought I was about done: 18 kgs.  :o

If thát is not motivating to try for more ánd bicycle up an extra hill, what is?  ;D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 4, 2023, 11:34
Have started preparations for the tube upgrade. As usual turns out to be a bit more to it than at first appearent. As it is all in plain sight I would like to keep sóme of the plastic but it looks like the rear/lower bit is one piece from door to door. Am a bit loathe to cut it but will if I can think of nothing else.
Anyway 750 gram down already. Not jinxing it by jotting down expectations  ;D
Ah and a good thing it is warm here as the old plastic fittings are a nightmare otherwise.

p.s. may need to adjust the silly big wing to give a bit more down force to keep the thing on the black stuff!

p.p.s. just kiddin´
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 5, 2023, 12:09
Took all the bits out thanking the sun for warming up the plastic.

Right.... yes, díd use the angle grinder. With #1 son, long sleeved shirt and glasses on. Beejeezus, was nauseatingly sensible. Well for as much using a huge angle grinder on a 35 mm diameter pipe goes.  But then it did need cutting four times and that is a pita with a hacksaw. I did try with that but pffff  ::)

Son was indispensable not just for the above but he installed a profi fine grinding tower with dentist flexi line and grinder to dress up my cuts to perfection and smooth out any imperfections inside the pieces of tube.  Also all the edges of the steel tube are rounded off to avoid stress raisers.

Have now J-B welded the tube parts together.
The steel and cf tubes are a smooth sliding fit and have a 5 cm. overlap with the cf extending 2 cm into the bracket making for an as strong a bond as possible.
It needs to set and when hard we will glue the central bracket for the soft top ´lock´. Yes we did remember to slide it over the carbon fiber tube before glueing on the end pieces 🤗
When thát is hardened we will reassemble tomorrow morning.

Hope I can get it all refitted as I have thought it out. If so it will be a neat weight delete of 2.6 kg.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 5, 2023, 15:02
Was ´easier´ to fit the soft top ´lock´ while mounted inside the car so now setting while assembled.
In all 2.615 gram of lightness i.e. 0.3% .
The tie wrap keeps the drain bag in place.
Now, obviously there is no discussing taste but I have tríed to find some compromise between full plastic and bare metal. First idea was to keep the thing under plastic but imo it looks cool and deserves to be seen because it is réal cf.
Now becaúse it is I still need to rub some UV protection over it.

(https://i.ibb.co/4181cyL/Carbonbrace2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4181cyL)

(https://i.ibb.co/68pgShZ/Carbonbrace3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/68pgShZ)



Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 6, 2023, 10:32

(https://i.ibb.co/MGfSYkg/Carbonbrace4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/MGfSYkg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 8, 2023, 09:18
Sunday night it sarted blowing. Yesterday morning increased to stormy wind laden with Sahara dust. So took a rest day from the pedaling. Wanted to test the cf tube mod anyway.
A só enjoyable drive over the mountain twisties, letting the lsd sort out the tail wagging. Normally a bit conservative on the revving but the extra bit at the top is quite seductive  O:-)
An autentacious lardie parked next to it twíce as if to underline the added value of nimble  :))
Anyway, no rattles and today back to pedalling again, panting sahara dust  ::)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 10, 2023, 00:35
Phew cooling down a bit now after midnight. Was 42 degrees (C.) today and expected to be more he next days.
Hence after lunch went out for a lomg ride, all mountain roads. Seems nuttah at the heat of the day but the local roads are EMPTY then. No cyclist and everyone stays indoors for the siesta. Any traffic uses the provincial roads or highways.
Arranged a date* about halfway and take in plenty of bubbly water in charming company. Hydrating is important no.

So, empty roads. Had fíve cars oncoming in over in all 2,5 hours of rural mountain roads. The plod of course too somewhere inside with airco-Réally enjoyable through switchbacks and bits with clear view through corners.
The traction well, different, Yes the semi slicks nice on working temp but the tarmac at the sunside rather too well done with any greasy/oily content floating to the surface. Again réally enjoyable with the lsd.
The lightness, well obviously addictive. The thing brakes só well and is a joy to steer precisely; it inspires confidence in spades. Fingers crossed I can get the Margard windscreen.

About that confidence, had a bit much of a slide in one corner. Stays in the shade all day, is véry wide, open view, just that damaged tarmac near the road center. ENjoyed it sliding and hit the damage stop REALLY hard. Stúpid as I know it´s there. As such relalized it befor it hit so was not surprised by the reaction. Back home though noticed that one of the license plate lights had been jarred down  :o  Unlike the license plate (still legible enough) the thing looks none the worse. Stuck it back up/in with a bit of glue  ;)
 
Next few days, possibly incl. the weekend, probably wiser to go for a spirited ride after midnight. My favorite ice parlout in Málag is open till 02.00 so a cool combination.
Which leads me to * as she would like to repeat, for me to pick her up Saturday midday. Would need to go in a tin top with airco  which makes displacing a bore. Said no, sorry  :-* later.

Tomorro morning will rise a bit ealier to beat the heat cycling. Project adding lightness to myself is still on. Received whatsapp about a coffee date tomorrow from the WRX driving c-company. Said yes but early and you come to my watering hole. ´Ok´. Will enjoy cycling even more!!  :))

La vida es bella!

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 13, 2023, 23:54
Had a hilarious yet enlightening evening with charming company at a local venta.
While enjoying copas & tapascommuncated with a enthusiast accross the pond and got into the calculations of the natural science of car modding.
The charming company became interested because of the numbers I typed down for the other party at distance. She could not believe the húge diffences relatively small changes make.
Nothing complicated though and all fáctual.
Her being beyond bright and having basic understanding of Newtonian laws is thus a fertile base: Using MR2 and the data of some of my mods I could séé the coins drop.
When we got into the car (Esmeralda) she got out again to look at a late model Audi A4 parked next to us. Her new awareness about weight/forces/tyre load sensitivity had shocked her. That Audi is relatively a moderately sized entry model nowadays. She simply had never been awáre. Like most  ::)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 17, 2023, 16:02
YES!!! The French plexi providers are back from vacance: ´Nous vous répondrons dans les meilleurs délais.´

Past few days been out playing guide for relatively newly arrived charming companies.
Early up, feed the horses, go pedalling for ´operación tripa´ to keep up with ´belle´s weight loss (see above), out noon/afternoon.
Been awfully good with the lunch/diner meal choices too (see one less above).

Because of the heat alerts and UV warnings went rideabout with tin tops but... tonight am invited to come down to a neighbouring village and meet the date thére. YESS!!! can go topless thataway!
Will be highly enjoyable driving back over mountain roads under the stars, nó light pollution, the denser night air laden with smells, the Amuse sound track reverberating  8)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 18, 2023, 10:26
...and the plastigrass-racing blokes answered; véry reasonable shipping cost and of course no customs etc.
Placed the order.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Nvy on August 18, 2023, 11:00
Quote from: Petrus on August 18, 2023, 10:26...and the plastigrass-racing blokes answered; véry reasonable shipping cost and of course no customs etc.
Placed the order.



How are you going to protect it from scratches?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 18, 2023, 13:44
Quote from: Nvy on August 18, 2023, 11:00How are you going to protect it from scratches?

Not. In my parallel, alternative universe it is not an issue.

It has a hard coating and for the rest be carefull with the wipers; keep the thing and things clean.

Have been motorcycling for décades and all visors are... Lexan, the same stuff. No rider thinks twice in the rain of wiping it with the glove. Same thing.
Nope not worried. Leave that to those who worry  :))
The only thing Í think about is the fitting  ;)

For the moment it is all conjecture. I´ll see. Hopefully clearer than crystal   ;D
Meanwhile having great fun.
Thoroughly enjoyed the drive back last night (and the evening/company/food).
This morning pedalled myself silly up and down the hills over gravel  ´roads´. Stopped at a gf´s for coffee and on with melting lazy fat.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 19, 2023, 10:38
For @Ardent
first the free exhaust flow  ´parachute´ variant

(https://thumbs-eu-west-1.myalbum.io/photo/180/1aa5f7dd-1cee-4cc3-9b3c-0b06b476f2b8.jpg)

and the lastest low temp (áll) free flow version

(https://i.ibb.co/bQG435t/Mr2-Free-Flow.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bQG435t)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 19, 2023, 19:21
btw @Nvy  the MEGUIARS G17110 HEADLIGHT PROTEC which is a favorite for the headlamp covers will do the exact same for the Margard windshield.

This is how my 20 year old headlight plastic looks
(https://thumbs-eu-west-1.myalbum.io/photo/180/473625ff-b024-4ff9-bb98-00eae17b51d3.jpg)

See why I am not worried?!  They look better that my windshield actually.
In fact the stuff being about umpteen times stonger than glass and refracting less because of not being laminated makes me cross my fingers I get this imo upgrade  ;D

Ah and as a geriatric failsafe will take the wipers óff. Lighter too.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Nvy on August 20, 2023, 06:53
Quote from: Petrus on August 19, 2023, 19:21btw @Nvy  the MEGUIARS G17110 HEADLIGHT PROTEC which is a favorite for the headlamp covers will do the exact same for the Margard windshield.

This is how my 20 year old headlight plastic looks
(https://thumbs-eu-west-1.myalbum.io/photo/180/473625ff-b024-4ff9-bb98-00eae17b51d3.jpg)

See why I am not worried?!  They look better that my windshield actually.
In fact the stuff being about umpteen times stonger than glass and refracting less because of not being laminated makes me cross my fingers I get this imo upgrade  ;D

Ah and as a geriatric failsafe will take the wipers óff. Lighter too.

I was thinking of some kind of a wrap similar to clear 3m stuff thats being used on headlights but as you mentioned couple of examples its not needed.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 20, 2023, 10:14
Out for a drive. Usually don´t do Sunday mornings; too many Sunday-drivers and cyclists. So, adapted the route a bit but the bull was occupied. Was without charming company so no ´art´ photos anyway  O:-)

Wónderful traffic free drive though.

Tomorrow morning a date at the Museo Automobilistico in Málaga. Should really go with the MR2 but city traffic  ::)  Will see tomorrow...


(https://i.ibb.co/19BDKQX/MR2-Toro-Estepa.jpg) (https://ibb.co/19BDKQX)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 20, 2023, 12:24
Quote from: Nvy on August 20, 2023, 06:53but as you mentioned couple of examples its not needed.

as I observed it sofar is all conjecture based on my personal experience with motorbike face shields and the MR2 headlamp plastics.
I hope I will see soon.

Some info:
https://ff.sabic.eu/en/product/lexan-solid-sheet/margard-coated-sheet
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 21, 2023, 14:36
Yes! None too hot this morning so took the dust cover off.
Was in a good mood so

(https://i.ibb.co/k87zJnV/Mr2-Queen-Seat.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k87zJnV)

and she éxtra-appreciated the top down drive.
Me being her private guide through the museum was almost overkill  ;)  ;)

The above being fun for me too; there ís such a thing as free lunch  :))

The last bit home, having dropped her off, stepped a bit more on it. Uffffff. Véry nearly lost it. First time. It being more MR2 than MR2 makes it delightfully quick but also less forgiving.
The first slide I hád to correct as I simply carried a bit too much speed down hill so the drop off straight at the end of the none too wide country road black stuff came up too close too fast to simply let the LSD straighten the car.
That predictably went to ´snap´ oversteer. Ok, so I expected it thus was already correcting towards the opposite opposite when still snapping. Took 4! changes of opposition before it had scrubbed off enough speed to point and squirt it straight again. Literally a narrow escape. 
Stupid and a bad. No dressing it up.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 22, 2023, 11:40
Order for the Margard windshield is confirmed.
Will use the lead time to delete the wipers and getting used to that  ;D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: JayPee404 on August 22, 2023, 12:22
Quote from: Petrus on August 21, 2023, 14:36The last bit home, having dropped her off, stepped a bit more on it. Uffffff. Véry nearly lost it. First time. It being more MR2 than MR2 makes it delightfully quick but also less forgiving.
The first slide I hád to correct as I simply carried a bit too much speed down hill so the drop off straight at the end of the none too wide country road black stuff came up too close too fast to simply let the LSD straighten the car.
That predictably went to ´snap´ oversteer. Ok, so I expected it thus was already correcting towards the opposite opposite when still snapping. Took 4! changes of opposition before it had scrubbed off enough speed to point and squirt it straight again. Literally a narrow escape. 
Stupid and a bad. No dressing it up.

Damn mate, glad you're alright! Considering you are now driving a go kart in terms of weight I bet it drives a lot different than stock, good thing you reacted well. I have yet to experience the mythical snap but I don't really push her too hard as I don't know what the suspension looks like
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 22, 2023, 12:29
Quote from: JayPee404 on August 22, 2023, 12:22I have yet to experience the mythical snap


Chances are you will not.
For one the cabrio is pretty much user friendly in standard trim.
Secondly that ´snap´ it not as snappy as the internet lore makes it out to be.
And lastly the limit is pretty high.

I suggets going out to the local industrial early one rainy Sunday morning and (with enough space) lift off mid corner  ;)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on August 22, 2023, 15:08
Quote from: Petrus on August 22, 2023, 11:40Order for the Margard windshield is confirmed.
Will use the lead time to delete the wipers and getting used to that  ;D

Wipers AND that ever so "heavy" washer  fluid bag!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 22, 2023, 15:10
Quote from: Joesson on August 22, 2023, 15:08Wipers AND that ever so "heavy" washer  fluid bag!

That´s near empty. Will leave it for the yearly MoT when I refit the wipers  :))
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on August 22, 2023, 17:06
Quote from: Petrus on August 22, 2023, 15:10That´s near empty. Will leave it for the yearly MoT when I refit the wipers  :))


I believe I'm correct in saying that the UK testers would check that the wipers wipe!
A bridge you will cross  nearer the time?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 22, 2023, 18:28
Quote from: Joesson on August 22, 2023, 17:06I believe I'm correct in saying that the UK testers would check that the wipers wipe!
A bridge you will cross  nearer the time?

Dunno UK, here they do hence what I write.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 22, 2023, 21:16
Btw checked this ´log´ to answer a US question and realised that with my recently rediscovered angle grinder madman skills can problably delete the best part of a kilogram more from the rear crash bar. Mmm. Nice!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 24, 2023, 12:48
Ok, garden hose out to extinguish possible flames.  Bumper skirt off, bumper off and mad angle grinding crash bar. Extinguish dry grass fire. Wet all surrounding veggie matter and ask #1 son to stay on guard holding the hose.
Continue grinding.
Refit Swiss crash bar.

(https://i.ibb.co/HtHz6Zs/MR2-Swiss-Bumper.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HtHz6Zs)

Only 625 gramms but it all adds up; 6,9 kgs  over this summer.

First lunch now before refitting the skirt et al.

(https://i.ibb.co/Y7b055D/Mr2-Bumper-Gat.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Y7b055D)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 26, 2023, 10:05
Oh. I lóve cabrio  8)

Last night was invited for diner in a véry nice and good restaurant about an half hour over the highway direction Granada.
As is was a hót day, the night would be around 30 degrees so I said I would lóve a romantic drive. No light poluton whatsoever in the campo so under the half moon and stars over the mountain roads back. ´Ooooh kaaay´ she said coyly.

As it was a hot day she had reserved for rather late so that too was in line for a nightly drive.

As it was a hot evening she was stylish yet ever slightly dressed in a comfy light, sexy flowing thingamy so that too was in line with a romantic drive.

To literally smooth out possible imperfections again had added the garden chair insert to the bucket seat. When I picked her up she draped a large beach towel over it. Huh? and put a second small bag and aroled up second towel behind her seat. Double Huh??

The drive out over the highway is a lot more fun than ´highway´ indicates as it is an all tricky bends stretch crossing two mountain passes and a river deep in between. Several of the tricky bends have advisory 60 km/h speed but the little cabrio is ok at >double that. Not that I would do that of course.
Charming purring in the balmy breeze almost as loud as the Amuse.

At the restaurant door I helped her get out and  :-*  :-* .... slightly dressed indeed  O:-)
Parked, entered, to the table and fast forward beyond the ever so enjoyable diner to midnight.
While she went powder her nose I drove up the car. Helped her in and she gave me a small pink remote control.

Under way, outside of the small town, turned on the interior road network over the mountains. Just beyond the street lighting the seat belt alarm chirped. She was taking off the rest of the slightly dressed. Reached for the small bag behind her seat and said; ´just getting some toys.´ The towels now logical too.

The drive was évvah so romantic under the soft half moon light. Did take a bit.
Mán I lóve cabrio: I cannot imagine anything more romantic, erotic than a romantic turned sexy drive out over the mountain roads on a balmy summer night with enjoying, enjoyable charming company.



 
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 27, 2023, 21:10
Yes, I think polycarbonate will be safe

https://mercari.jpshuntong.com/url-68747470733a2f2f7777772e63617273636f6f70732e636f6d/2023/06/toyota-supra-challenges-physics-with-transparent-wheels-because-tiktok/
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 30, 2023, 21:41
Am looking into fitting an hydraulic handbrake again. My moral hesitations have been evaporated by modern law/requirements.


(https://www.driftshop.com/media/catalog/product/2/2/3/7/3/2/xlarge-_A3A3863.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: mr2garageswindon on August 31, 2023, 09:42
I fitted one a couple of years back for a customer.
Worked really well.
I used a twin input output one then had flexi brake lines x4 made bu by HEL to link it in to the circuit by the fuel tank.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 31, 2023, 10:07
Quote from: mr2garageswindon on August 31, 2023, 09:42I fitted one a couple of years back for a customer.
Worked really well.
I used a twin input output one then had flexi brake lines x4 made bu by HEL to link it in to the circuit by the fuel tank.

Thanks for the feed back.
I was thinking of the single one above with two flexi lines; one from the master cilinder, the other back to the abs basically replacing the direct line. May make up hard lines if I can find a local with the tools.
Today/tomorow will be asking around to see what can be done here and thén decide/order the bits.
I am hópeless with the tread sizes of the hydraulics. It is thé thing that held me back sofar. I would not how to measure what are the sizes nor what to order.

A question: How was the practical space under the plastic center console?
I do want to use that. Take the mechanical one out and fit the hydraulics. I have a spare console so coúld cut it somewhat up if necessary.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: mr2garageswindon on August 31, 2023, 11:58
I connected mine on the front bulk head where there are already joiners for the rigid brake lines that way I could easily re use the original brake pipes if it needed to come out.
4 x Braided brake hoses banjo fitting one side the other side standard male or female brake unions.
This car used for hillclimb events kept the standard parking brake too.
I fitted it to the floor next to the tunnel, we did adapt the lever for the right orientation.
I have no idea how to upload pics but if you want to have a look on my garage facebook page there is a picture on there how it ended up. (Castle eaton vehicle services)
I cut a circular hole in the tunnel to route the hoses in and out.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 31, 2023, 12:23
Thnaks and will have a look on Facebook.

Just measured the lengths if fitting it like

(https://www.driftshop.com/media/tuto/handbrake/thumb-abs-2.png)

Sent an email to the vendor about the fittings. Should be like the AE86, Silvia et al. but best ask. If confirmed, they have a ready made set.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: mr2garageswindon on August 31, 2023, 13:32
The brake pipe fittings are generally the same across all makes of vehicle usually 10mm x 1mm male or female.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 31, 2023, 13:56
Quote from: mr2garageswindon on August 31, 2023, 13:32The brake pipe fittings are generally the same across all makes of vehicle usually 10mm x 1mm male or female.

So, will likely order a set.

On a side note two charming companies are full on supportive  :))  :))

p.s. kit ordered. They say 2 days delivery but that is never ever happening into the mountains here so somewhere next week.


(https://www.driftshop.com/media/catalog/product/2/2/3/7/3/2/xlarge-_A3A3868.jpg)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on August 31, 2023, 21:45
Quote from: mr2garageswindon on August 31, 2023, 13:32The brake pipe fittings are generally the same across all makes of vehicle usually 10mm x 1mm male or female.

What I could find is:

Output line:
x1 male 3/8" banjo
x1 male 3/8" convex to M10 concave

Input line :
x1 male 3/8" convex to M10 concave
x1 male 3/8" convex to 7/16" concave
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Nvy on September 1, 2023, 06:44
Why do you want a hydro brake? I find it convenient if you can have dual calliper setup.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 1, 2023, 08:24
Quote from: Nvy on September  1, 2023, 06:44Why do you want a hydro brake?

Because handbrake.

As the Knight has pointed out we should not use it to park because it causes the cables to stretch, thus remain the functions of holding on an incline, emergency brake, optional steering and fun. The OEM brake is ony useful for the first. Having an SMT I don´t need it for that, making the OEM set up completely useless for me.

Note to self: Do NOT forget a cut out switch for the stop light!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: mr2garageswindon on September 1, 2023, 09:38
If you are going to use a single line brake inputting to the abs pump surely that would lock NSF and OSR or OSF and NSR due to the split brake setup?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 1, 2023, 10:20
Quote from: mr2garageswindon on September  1, 2023, 09:38If you are going to use a single line brake inputting to the abs pump surely that would lock NSF and OSR or OSF and NSR due to the split brake setup?
´

Can not say I disagree.
I asked and they confirm the diagram on the site.
Although not blindly trusting all and sundry on the internet; https://www.driftshop.com/who-are-we.html should get sóme dredit, so will trý.
Suppose it does work, it is supersimple. If not then I can first revert to the mechanical set up easily enough and work out an alternative set up.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: mr2garageswindon on September 1, 2023, 10:45
I'd be interested if it does work how you think it will (I have been wrong before!)
I used twin input and output as I knew it would work effectively and 20 mins to swap it back to standard if required.
Looking forward to the results..
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 1, 2023, 11:29
Quote from: mr2garageswindon on September  1, 2023, 10:45I'd be interested if it does work how you think it will (I have been wrong before!)
I used twin input and output as I knew it would work effectively and 20 mins to swap it back to standard if required.
Looking forward to the results..

Again not disagreeing.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 1, 2023, 18:46
20th of July had bought a 10 hp worth modification  :))  in the UK.
Was to be here 7 Aug at the latest.
This morning it still was not  :o
After lunch made a reclamation.
This afternoon it was at the gas station... ::)

No time tonight. Still reeling from tetsting my bum versus the competition MTB just now. Hence I know it was at the gas station.
WRX charming girl has invited me, #1 son and his mom resident charming, for diner so, tomorrow it is for the mod. Áfter the morning run on the bicycle. This time my MTB racer.

...to be continued...
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 2, 2023, 09:29
Part 2:

The racing mod.:


(https://i.ibb.co/jM5vJ8V/Number65.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jM5vJ8V)


There is a Big Wan on the bonnet  :))

A small but important aesthetic mishap; the fresh band aids I put on after the Swiss bumper mod. have deformed in the sun. Will put Hello Kitty ones on I think.

Done:


(https://i.ibb.co/QfQk0FD/Hello-Kitty-Pleister1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QfQk0FD)


(https://i.ibb.co/L8RJ8pD/Hello-Kitty-Pleister2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/L8RJ8pD)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 2, 2023, 21:28
Was chilling some just now.
Because rain tomorrow all day, decided to pull the bike out again. Went for the Némesis Hill from the other side. Twice the hight meters, half the steepest %, so lóónger. Stiff breeze 🙄   Greased my groin with baby bottom stuff. Wearing nappy pants too so true to style 👌 The roue went 💪 but was knackered.
Afer refreshing hhhhót shower charming made a véry nice cold plate with Anducían, Antequeran even, specialities. Nice glass wine with it
Hence the chilling and watched a youtube ´how to hydraulic handbrake´. It featured an angle grinder. #1 son observed thát is the one for me and charming rolled off the couch lauging.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 4, 2023, 13:10
As nowadays usual/expected the courier can´t find the farm. Now that is why I specified a different delivery address  ::)  Let´s say it got lost in translation.
Should, crossed fingers knocking wood, arrive at the local garage tomorrow.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on September 4, 2023, 15:35
I can understand billing a delivery addresses being handy to match.

But for where you live, adding a what three words location would surely benefit the delivery company if they where to use it.

What three words would negate the need for post code or address.
3 words that relate to a square co-ordinate.

Like me saying I'm at Victoria Park leic. Great that's narrowed it down to 69 acres.
Here is a precise what3words address, made of 3 random words. Every 3 metre square in the world has its own unique what3words address.

///twin.hood.local
https://w3w.co/twin.hood.local
52.622453, -1.118492

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 4, 2023, 16:34
That is a cool bit of new to me info Jason! Thanks.
I´ve tried gps location but nope.

The garage as delivery address has the additional advantage that there will be someone there to accept the delivery.
Also use the book shop in the village and the local gas station.

The human factor though remains the critical factor of whichever address I use.
THis applies to the courier too btw as those will just as easily drop it off at say the electronics shop, the post office or the photographer if more convenient.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 5, 2023, 15:35
H-brake bits have arrived.

Amay and the windshield is underway too.

Next week being Fiestas Patronales of the Virgen de Nuestros Dolores all and sundry will be closed for the week. After over two years wanting the plastic windshIeld can wait two weeks more.  Nevertheless tomorrow morning pedalling to the repair shop and give him a heads up.

Dropped by at the repair shop and they say ´no problem, we´ll fit it.´  
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 11, 2023, 20:08
Today spent two episodes of searching.
First for the RS3200 in my car. Will have another look later in the night with a torch light.
The second for the Lexan windshield. It has been delivered but WHERE?? It is Fiesta and the garage is closed. The direct neighbours don´t have it nor do the two drop off points in the village. Sent the courier company an email 🤞
So in theory both the H-handbrake and the windscreen have arrived.

p.s. received a whatsapp that the son of the garage owner has the windshield at home. Search 2. apparently terminated,
Noticed the shipped weight on the courier data; 8 kgs.
This coincides nicely with the specification of max. 6 kg by the seller.
Not sure what the laminated grass one weighs but if 5 mm it should be some 12.5 kgs and if 6 mm. then about 15.

The RS3200 search. Crawled under the dash with a flashlight and phone to take photos. Of course the phone rang. Was TooGoodToBeTrue Girl so best take it.  Was an entertaining half hour and no longer in the mood to crawl back. To be continued.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 21, 2023, 13:25
preparations; wipers off is 1 kg gained already ;-)


(https://i.ibb.co/4dChjZm/Lexan2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4dChjZm)


(https://i.ibb.co/CBr1Nzt/Lexan1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CBr1Nzt)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 21, 2023, 16:11
...meanwhile on the hydraulic handbrake; the brake line from the rear of the master cyl. to the ABS indeed feeds the rear wheels only.
The ABS only has a front/rear split: The pump and electronics works on these two separately and independently.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 22, 2023, 09:54
..and ..... the wrong ´etching´ liquid :rolleyes:
The acid for glass is wrong for polycarbonate.
Ah and need to come up with a whatsit to form the inside out somewhat.

Will thus try start on preps for the handbrake over the weekend.

Good thing I have looking into the ins and out of the Mercedes 190 (W201) to do as well 😅
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on September 22, 2023, 17:46
Well spotted.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: J88TEO on September 22, 2023, 21:52
Quote from: Petrus on September 22, 2023, 09:54Good thing I have looking into the ins and out of the Mercedes 190 (W201) to do as well 😅
Did you acquire this one?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 22, 2023, 22:19
Quote from: J88TEO on September 22, 2023, 21:52Did you acquire this one?

Going to have a look next week
Had some groundwork first:
All the background info checks out.
Resident charming is on board. It is going to be her wheels ;-)
Will keep you updated per pm.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on September 23, 2023, 13:17
I may have mentioned previously of my in period recollections of the Mercedes 190. The first was a UK Client who had a 190 with, iirc a Cosworth engine, very quick.
The next In Germany when I travelled as a passenger, in the rain, a dry clever/ complicated single arm wiper.
A lasting observation that, in the Basque region of Spain and perhaps elsewhere,  they were a very popular choice of car for Taxi work, with durable rather than luxurious trim.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 23, 2023, 14:47
Quote from: Joesson on September 23, 2023, 13:17I may have mentioned previously of my in period recollections of the Mercedes 190. The first was a UK Client who had a 190 with, iirc a Cosworth engine, very quick.
The next In Germany when I travelled as a passenger, in the rain, a dry clever/ complicated single arm wiper.
A lasting observation that, in the Basque region of Spain and perhaps elsewhere,  they were a very popular choice of car for Taxi work, with durable rather than luxurious trim.

Thanks for sharing the recollections.
The ´Cosworth´ was the 2.3 (later 2.5) 16V head tuned/reinforced sports/racing engine based on the standard M102 engine. Cosworth developed the cylinder head.
The rest of the car is pretty much standard save for lowered/´tuned´ suspension and moderate styling kit.
The success and reliability in extreme competition use was/is a tribute to the overengineered design  of the 190.
Same thing the use of the OM601/602 diesel engined taxis. Both the ´plastics´ and cloth used in the 190 are probably the most durable such in cars ever.
Over here they are still a véry common daily sight everywhere. Several neighbours drive one for daily use.

Here the FL model. Also illustrating the compact outer dimensions in today´s world.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Mercedes-Benz_W_201_Wien_29_July_2020_JM_%281%29.jpg/1280px-Mercedes-Benz_W_201_Wien_29_July_2020_JM_%281%29.jpg)


Right will stop here with derailing Belle´s thread  ;)
By all means continue on the old(der) cars thread.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 25, 2023, 17:03
another step


(https://i.ibb.co/cb9XVMk/Handbrake1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cb9XVMk)


Ran into road block. Periodic inspection will notice the locking mechanism and fault the car on the brake mod. STUPID! Should have caught that from he beginning :rolleyes:
Have to refit the mechanical one and rethink the hydraulic. Probably will need to fit on the outside of the console, passenger side. The OEM seat will when fitted hide the thing but doubt if there is room.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 25, 2023, 21:48
btw, took her out for a spin with the seat/handbrake out and there is no denying I notice the before/after even though the seat weighs half the OEM one.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 27, 2023, 16:44
...and refitted the mechanical handbrake again  ::)

Not figured out (yet) where to put the H-brake  :-X

I am sure I must have a second console plastic somewhere which could be cut a bit if needed.

Again on a side note; took off the windshield wipers and realyréalyREALY  like the clean unobstructed view. The only thing ´molesting´  me now is the mirror bung. If the Lexan does not work out, the wipers will only get back on for MoT.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 29, 2023, 15:56
The windshield is out; IN ÓNE PIECE!! As is the plastic trim 8)


(https://i.ibb.co/6bPx4pT/Voorruit1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6bPx4pT)


(https://i.ibb.co/PFWzHVV/Voorruit2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PFWzHVV)

The Lexan needs a wee bit of trimming but the glazing shop on the industrial estate is closed for the weekend. Monday it is.

Have not weighed the two yet but the OEM one is veryvéry thin indeed. It is not going to be much I am afraid. 

Drove it with the glass deleted to/fro the window shop and it was definitely noticeable. Pity I am going to refit most of it :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on September 29, 2023, 16:58
Weighed the two:

OEM 10.5 kg.
Lexan 5.9 kg.
Saving 4.6 kg.

Setting it against the weight of my car, it is >0.5% and being at the front half, average on shoulder height, I´ll take it.

Fingers crossed for Monday.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 1, 2023, 11:23
Found the spare center console!
Can´t faff with the H-brake with my fingers x-ed though  ;D

Was reflecting my thoughts with charming and she thinks it über 8) if I could manage to get it sort of inside the console sticking up like in rally cars she says.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: J88TEO on October 1, 2023, 21:29
Don't have to : https://www.spyderchat.com/threads/hydraulic-handbrake-development-megathread.161740/page-2#post-2211579  #39
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 1, 2023, 22:14
Quote from: J88TEO on October  1, 2023, 21:29Don't have to : https://www.spyderchat.com/threads/hydraulic-handbrake-development-megathread.161740/page-2#post-2211579  #39

Thanks for the link. I looked at this one several times. 
He uses no center console and thus can lift the hand schifter enough to fit the cylinders below. I need my solution to be easily reverted back to MoT passable.
In the linked example he has one cylinder to the side and that is what I want to do. 
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 2, 2023, 08:33
Phew, should be correctly sized now. Easier said than done because abrasion heats the stuff up and melts/distorts. But, done before opening hours of the workshop so as not to mess with the planned jobs on hand.

After that left the windshield with the body shop.  Marking, masking and fitting is tricky enough without a third set of hands of a nervously hovering client complicating things.

Meanwhile I can try do a DIY ´carglass´ repair on another car.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 2, 2023, 19:00
It is in but with using magic words in 7 languages :o  ::)

The OEM surround will not fit neatly. Will need to think of something. Perhaps have one cut flush off of a scrapper and glue it on. Not many scrappers about here though so  :-\  but there is always J-Spec.  Am not cutting mine up in case I want to refit the original glass again.


(https://i.ibb.co/kHtMJYW/Voorruit3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kHtMJYW)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 3, 2023, 00:34
Just read amusing news. The current F1 cars weigh an astonishing 798 kg and the new engines and chassis adaptations are expected to take it well above 800.

Make me think of the TRD F1 logo  ;D  :))

(https://www.logovector.org/wp-content/uploads/logos/png/t/toyota_f1_racing_logo.png)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: inigopete on October 3, 2023, 05:45
Yes, we looked that up at the weekend too - my son is just starting to watch "Drive to survive" On Netflix.

What does Southern Belle currently weigh?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 3, 2023, 08:02
Quote from: inigopete on October  3, 2023, 05:45What does Southern Belle currently weigh?

Fueled to the rim 890 kgs.
I have the tank max half full so  8)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 3, 2023, 12:39
It´s in and bar the finishing touch with the molding, done.
And yes you do notice the kilos in júst a bit less roll but a bit unexpectedly a feeling of more stability when relaxed driving twisties with the constantly changing cambers/crowns.
Ah and of course clear as... no, clearer than crystal:


(https://i.ibb.co/mD1GRn0/Voorruit5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mD1GRn0)

(https://i.ibb.co/F4Qj9hH/Voorruit4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/F4Qj9hH)

(https://i.ibb.co/LZ1bFdH/Voorruit6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LZ1bFdH)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: J88TEO on October 3, 2023, 13:30
I want that steering wheel! ;D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 3, 2023, 14:05
Quote from: J88TEO on October  3, 2023, 13:30I want that steering wheel! ;D

Sparco SanRemo with Momo collapsible boss.

The steering wheel  was already not easy to find 5 years ago though.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 3, 2023, 14:51
And another finishing touch: Removed and transferred the non-reusable periodic inspection sticker  8)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: J88TEO on October 3, 2023, 16:22
Quote from: Petrus on October  3, 2023, 14:05Sparco SanRemo with Momo collapsible boss.
I know. ;) ...been looking for one ever since!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 3, 2023, 16:49

(https://i.ibb.co/wCbbDw5/Voorruit7.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wCbbDw5)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: inigopete on October 3, 2023, 16:58
She's looking good! :)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on October 3, 2023, 20:20
I notice you've added another 20HP as well!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 3, 2023, 21:20
Quote from: Joesson on October  3, 2023, 20:20I notice you've added another 20HP as well!

Yésss  8)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on October 3, 2023, 21:31
Quote from: J88TEO on October  3, 2023, 13:30I want that steering wheel! ;D
You and me both, I want it, but in 13" which does not seem to exist.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 3, 2023, 21:43
Quote from: Ardent on October  3, 2023, 21:31You and me both, I want it, but in 13" which does not seem to exist.

Indeed, it´s 355 mm. O:-)

No, seriously I think the Nardi Classic comes in 13";  it ís the 33.

The El Cheapo ebay ones dubbed ´ Vintage´ come in 13" too.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on October 4, 2023, 07:40
Found the cheap ones.
Thin and nasty. The San remo has substance.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 4, 2023, 08:02
Quote from: Ardent on October  4, 2023, 07:40Found the cheap ones.
Thin and nasty. The San remo has substance.

I concur and the Nardi is a bit pricey.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 4, 2023, 08:27
Quote from: Joesson on October  3, 2023, 20:20I notice you've added another 20HP as well!

btw, seriously, she is véry quick now. As @Ardent pointed out adding lightness has increasing returns. As I also lightened the rotating mass of the engine, the effect on performance is surprising. Especially in second and third the direct response of the freed up natural aspiration is ... well... surprising. Quick is the word. Quick steering, quick responding.

The windshield mod has some strange. perhaps subjective perception, effects. Much like the hard top. That changes the whole feel of the car.
The totally different ´soft´ flexible nature of the Lexan changes the soúnd, the frequency of all sound waves bouncing back from it.
And the lightness this high up has an odd effect too. ALthough is obviously reduces MR2 it fééls more stable on the undulating, constantly changing angles of the secondary twisties.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 5, 2023, 15:36
A minor benefit I had not mentioned is that the plastic blocks 98% of UV A and UV B light when compared to regular glass. So this windscreen is probably better for my aging very blue eyes.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: inigopete on October 5, 2023, 15:51
FWIW most glass blocks most UV-B, and standard laminated windscreen glass blocks a lot of UV-A too, although non-treated side window glass doesn't.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 5, 2023, 16:11
Quote from: inigopete on October  5, 2023, 15:51although non-treated side window glass doesn't.

have those down anyway  ;)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 10, 2023, 13:40
Detail of the fit: Have two different finishing ´covers´ on their way.
This and the aluminium Prius calipers are my favourite  8)  modifications.


(https://i.ibb.co/YLfrNBS/Voorruit8.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YLfrNBS)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 19, 2023, 13:36
On a side note I found that the sound of the wiper motor running has markedly changed. I had accidentally switched it on and not having the arms fitted did not immediately séé so only heard it. Again the same; a deeper pitch.

Imo the Lexan scores positively in the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoacoustics 😜
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 28, 2023, 15:48
´Did´ the gas pedal.
Verdict; by all means lubricate but leave it in situ unless one is dead set on removing the counter weight.Mine is the version with the blob under the pedal arm btw.
To take it out the cable needs to be hooked out and the plastic thule is like a chinese puzzle which will break when cold.

Me not being a flexi contortionist of miniature size, I had to take the seat out and have the door wíííde open. Put the floor matt outside to kneel/lie on. Well, that was the idea but the pup ´helped´  :))  :))

I left the blob as it is without a doubt there for a reason, that reason being anti-rattle thus could have saved me the antics and simply lubed the pivot  ::)

Was great fun though with the pup keeping me company and winding charming up. She gave up trying to keep the pup on the terrace and moved her chair from the sun on the terrace into the sun on the parking lot with view on my car and pup.
I am properly knackered now. Not so much from rolling about under the steering wheel but more from play sprinting with the pup. He could not get enough of it. I could. He is now in comatose sleep on my lap though  ;)

So; dó lube the pivot as that doés make a difference.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on October 28, 2023, 20:25
Quote from: Petrus on October 28, 2023, 15:48Me not being a flexi contortionist of miniature size, I had to take the seat out and have the door wíííde open. Put the floor matt outside to kneel/lie on. Well, that was the idea but the pup ´helped´  :))  :))

For a moment I thought you knelt on the pup.  :o  :))
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on October 28, 2023, 21:21
Quote from: Ardent on October 28, 2023, 20:25For a moment I thought you knelt on the pup.  :o  :))

Would be impossible; he is >40 km/h now already with even faster reflexes, way faster :o 
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 6, 2023, 22:54
A whole week of sunny weather forecasted. Just 50% chance of a shower Saturday.
So will take it out and spiritedly enjoy the nimbleness.

Also leave it out in the midday sun and have a go at the finishing molding strip.
Am véry pleased with the view without even the mirror bung and wipers btw.

Still have the passenger seat out so depending on the ambient temp  (and will roll the side windows up) may take the pup for a first cabrio ride.

The pup is proving the point of lightness btw.
Only 4 months old and it took him a few days to figure them out but he is só much faster/more nimble than our húnting! farm cats that he totally freaks them out: Yep, lightness makes ´you´ faster everywhere  :))  :))
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 8, 2023, 17:05
Alas too cccóld overnight and with the night temps forecasted to rise 10 degrees in the weekend, postponed applying the molding. Did try a 10 cm. bit on the most difficult bits. With the pup ´helping´ ofcourse.
Cold and all it went as good as I hoped for if warm. The cold now helped in limited stick  8)
Looks more OEM than the OEM one  ;)
Do need a véry scalpel or such for fine trimming of both p.u. and the molding.
Actually looking forward to it now.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 10, 2023, 11:59
...and done  8)


(https://i.ibb.co/0KB3n8B/voorruit-Sierstrip.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0KB3n8B)


also put the passenger bucket back in. Fingers crossed the brownie points for that weigh heaviest.

Was a huge delight to have a dog ´helping´ again.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 10, 2023, 18:40
Lóvely drive today. Charming passenger bought me lunch. Minor set back is the engine blowing a bit through the exhaust manifold gasket.

While on the terrace a picture told more than a thousand words:


(https://i.ibb.co/WBFh8BD/Groot-Klein.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WBFh8BD)



https://duckduckgo.com/?q=heavier+cars+are+more+dangerous&ia=web

Being a small cabrio user I feel increasingly vulnerable and with good reason.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 12, 2023, 19:59
Took the itsiebitsie to go to the Bierfest with charming company and pup. Was only a bit up the road so took a leisure detour.

A sunny 25 degrees (Centigrade), choice of lager and specialty beers, wider still choice of food. From the products of Hamburg and Frankfurt to those from Mexico, Chili, Argentine with local specialties in between. Very affordably priced.

Yes, good living here  8)



(https://i.ibb.co/QKvPLcq/Bierfest.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QKvPLcq)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 13, 2023, 10:35
Good living indeed!

Júst above freezing, some frost on the ground, yet the now >8 years old undersize battery in itsiebitsie performed ok.
Pup relieved itself on command and charming... charming.

Off to the local watering hole for breakfast: Me having a half a mollete bien tostada, amply drizzled with virgen extra Montes del Guadalhorce (the trees in our view), grated sunripened tomato and a sprinkling of corse rock salt  ;D

WRX girl was there already, having breakfast too, with two guests from the UK. She got up, we embraced, she kissed me full on the lips to ... dunno, prove a point?  O:-)

Next it was intro session to Giácomo, the pup. Let´s say he was a ´bit´ quicker than the near pension aged. He was continously not where they thought they had just seen him. Anyway, picked him up and he was simply adórable. Making full (ab)use of his ditto looks. Smothered with kisses he volunteered to go back into his bench. Which brings me to the lightness adding mods: Changed the mid brace behind the seats for a carbon fibre rod, deleting the plastics in the process. It liberated not only a few kilos but also yet more luggage space!!

The chilly night/morning temps up here in the mountains make me wonder about F1 in Vegas coming weekend. Pirelli is bringing their three softest compounds but that does not mean they  work at <10 degrees C.  If they don´t they will just wear fáster than harder compounds.
The rather hard desert temp resistant tarmac, akin the stuff used over here, so fresh it is still sweating under the sun. 
Both will add to the complications of braking hárd after the long straights with potentially too cooled brakes.
Fingers crossed it will be sideways fun instead of drivers pussyfooting it in line to keep out of the concrete barriers.



Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: inigopete on November 13, 2023, 13:02
I'm interested in the mid brace carbon fibre rod mod - can you upload photos?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 13, 2023, 13:18
Quote from: inigopete on November 13, 2023, 13:02I'm interested in the mid brace carbon fibre rod mod - can you upload photos?

Of course, happy to share!

Ordered a 100 cm. long 32 mm. outer diameter proper cured cf tube (not cheap but free shipping from within EU kept it reasonable).
Took out the original, measured it all up, cut off the mounting brackets and the hood lock (yes, the angle grinder again), cut the cf tube to length.
Glued it all together again using JD weld.
Cut the plastic covers to size and fitted those covering the end brackets.
The tie wraps are to keep the side bags in place.
Done!



(https://i.ibb.co/tmFhRs5/Carbonbrace2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tmFhRs5)


(https://i.ibb.co/DQ1t5Mc/Carbonbrace3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DQ1t5Mc)


(https://i.ibb.co/k13Jv3b/Carbonbrace4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k13Jv3b)


I think it one of the cooler, say top 10, mods on my car. The first idea was to refit all the plastic but this being réal cf for a change, thought it neat to keep it in sight and just ´hid´ the OEM steel mounting brackets.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: inigopete on November 13, 2023, 15:28
Very tidy!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 13, 2023, 15:36
Quote from: inigopete on November 13, 2023, 15:28Very tidy!

Thanks.
Also 2,5 kgs of lightness and more luggage space.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 21, 2023, 16:25
The ever so slight blowing of the exhaust is one leaking flexi.
So put it on the bridge. Although the weather forecast says 0% rain, it also says sunny bu it is black clouds all around. Still, as it is not actually raining, not putting the roof up and thus fitted the tonneau.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 22, 2023, 12:07
Good idea that tonneau; ´t was all frosted up this morning so definitely not ideal to fold a ccccóld roof down yet clear blue sunny sky so  8)   The heater on under the tonneau is oh so comfie.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 23, 2023, 17:48
yessss  8)



(https://i.ibb.co/KsRytbM/MR2-November.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KsRytbM)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on November 29, 2023, 23:05
Ah pooh, one flexi is blowing a bit. Will weld in two new ones. Will take a week to get here though.

Switching to SHELL HELIX ULTRA 0W30 when I have it up. Not quite ´time´ but I feel good about that like about the half liter extra.

To distract myself a bit from ´waiting´ for the flexis, will wash the air (K&N) filter and clean the MAF.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 1, 2023, 14:40
Done and done. Filter element now drying out.
When done together, the MAF sensor housing can stay in the filter box top even. Cleaning the sensor is then done in seconds.
Wow, the sun came out so put the element in the warming rays and dzzzzt.....
Hauled a few bales to the paddock with pup racing up and down.
Filter and box reassembled.
Have not started the engine as I do not like doing this when not actually going for spin. 
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 4, 2023, 09:18
Fínally a bit of rain here. Not raín rain as in water in the river, but wet it is.
Did not pull the soft top up because there is under roof parking at the watering hole so extra enjoyed the tonneau.
Also extra enjoyed the traction thing of  suspension compliance. More lowering/stiffening, adding another chassis brace would make the car more of a handful on, even the here relatively good, real world wet roads.

The relative pussy footing about provokes more pops in the exhaust because of the slight leak. Véry enjoyable audible top down in the drizzle.

Hail tonneau  ;D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 6, 2023, 17:55
Just hooked the old skool looking smart charger up to the battery in the car.
Leaving it till sunny Sunday (24 degrees!  expected next week) is no doubt ok, but have done short drives only and was curious about how much it would still hold; 75%.
Lóve that little thing in the itsiebitsie  8)   LiFe sure gets charged up faster than the pickled plumbum.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 15, 2023, 15:31
Pff, not fun this


(https://i.ibb.co/ncpWkgS/MR2Flexi.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ncpWkgS)



Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: J88TEO on December 15, 2023, 15:34
Not easy...LOL
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on December 15, 2023, 18:47
Quote from: J88TEO on December 15, 2023, 15:34Not easy...LOL


Dóne though.

Next time fit a new crush gasket.

Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 1, 2024, 18:34
Just given the mini battery of the itsiebitsie a boost using the lardie of the resident female.
Made easier by having replaced the rear locking mechanism with a pin lock. Just lift the rear of the cover, push the button and I can lift the lid.
No need to take most of the cover off to open the door.
Unintentional bonus that!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 31, 2024, 12:01
Just done photos, measurements and sketches on the tablet. Want to 3D print inserts for the holes in the door panels left by removal of the grab bars.


(https://i.ibb.co/dkrd0Sx/MR2Deur2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dkrd0Sx)

(https://i.ibb.co/5YkjpT4/MR2Deur1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5YkjpT4)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: J88TEO on January 31, 2024, 16:40
large rubber blanking grommets?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on January 31, 2024, 17:10
Quote from: J88TEO on January 31, 2024, 16:40large rubber blanking grommets?

Could do, but the top one is a bit odd shaped half circle ánd my #1 son lóves 3D printing things for me.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 9, 2024, 19:23
DARN  :o

Been asked if I am interested in buying a 1ZZ-FE TRD supercharger kit.

Well no.
But .... yes  :-[
Would be interesting in my lightweight. Never mind any top end increase, just the low end oomph  >:D 
I mean, look at the graph at the end:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUQvqL7wKW8

For one I have no qualms about a hatch in the bulkhead. Secondly I have ample slush funds. Also pretty competent body repairer, mechanics and machine shop next to eachother a 1 km. Lastly have other daily.

So, depends.
To be continued--- (may take a while, quite a while)
Am busy with the Nimbus and the Vespa anyway  ;)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: jvanzyl on February 9, 2024, 21:24
Quote from: Petrus on February  9, 2024, 19:23DARN  :o

Been asked if I am interested in buying a 1ZZ-FE TRD supercharger kit.

Well no.
But .... yes  :-[
Would be interesting in my lightweight. Never mind any top end increase, just the low end oomph  >:D 

For one I have no qualms about a hatch in the bulkhead. Secondly I have ample slush funds. Also pretty competent body repairer, mechanics and machine shop next to eachother a 1 km. Lastly have other daily.

So, depends.
To be continued--- (may take a while, quite a while)
Am busy with the Nimbus and the Vespa anyway  ;)


Is it just the physical kit or does it include the ECU? If not management then the other part of the decision is what ecu and if there is a decent local mapper that supports it...

But please go for it! 😁
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 9, 2024, 21:56
Quote from: jvanzyl on February  9, 2024, 21:24Is it just the physical kit or does it include the ECU? If not management then the other part of the decision is what ecu and if there is a decent local mapper that supports it...

But please got for it! 😁

The TRD kit came with a piggyback ecu which only controlled the additional fifth injector by copying what the car´s ECU tells the injectors to do. As such it basically did the same as the MAF mod dropping in bigger injectors.  It relies on the stock ECU to sort out the fuelling. The installation manual even says so in the faults chart. It has indeed been proven that the fifth injector can be omitted entirely and replaced by said bigger injectors. 
The fifth injector is obviously adding 25% capacity which is about the same as the yellow 2ZZ ones in the MAF mod.
It shoúld all work a treat.

So fingers crossed; twice. First for it being in good condition and reasonably priced. Next the fitting. Reading the TRD manual I cannot see any challenge apart from the bulkhead. Nothing an angle grinder can´t solve. No seriously, a bit more discreet nibbler will do.
Anyway, told the seller I am most definitely interested.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: jvanzyl on February 10, 2024, 08:35
Quote from: Petrus on February  9, 2024, 21:56The TRD kit came with a piggyback ecu which only controlled the additional fifth injector by copying what the car´s ECU tells the injectors to do. As such it basically did the same as the MAF mod dropping in bigger injectors.  It relies on the stock ECU to sort out the fuelling. The installation manual even says so in the faults chart. It has indeed been proven that the fifth injector can be omitted entirely and replaced by said bigger injectors. 
The fifth injector is obviously adding 25% capacity which is about the same as the yellow 2ZZ ones in the MAF mod.
It shoúld all work a treat.

So fingers crossed; twice. First for it being in good condition and reasonably priced. Next the fitting. Reading the TRD manual I cannot see any challenge apart from the bulkhead. Nothing an angle grinder can´t solve. No seriously, a bit more discreet nibbler will do.
Anyway, told the seller I am most definitely interested.

All I heard was "I'm going to leave the MAF mod in place, add a 2zz injector as the fifth and install the TRD kit"  ;)
Because it should work right?? 
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 10, 2024, 23:29
He is digging all he has out and coming back to me. Fingers still crossed.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 11, 2024, 09:19
Quote from: jvanzyl on February 10, 2024, 08:35leave the MAF mod in place,

Should take the MAF spacer back out though; dé-advance low rev ignition timing.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 11, 2024, 13:05
btw., the TTE turbo is a PÍNG perspective* : It uses the standard air filter, MAF and injectors and only a rudimentary intercooler.
The TTE power of say 180-185 hp is móre than I aspire. I would be quite content with not much more max power but ´just´ even more instant throttle response and a fatter torque curve. In all realism, the engine currently pumps out easily enough top end power to overdo things here with my superlightweight.

* have both the TTE turbo and the TRD supercharger manuals downloaded and read for prep and reference.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on February 11, 2024, 17:49
I rarely use the available bhp.
The 50% extra torque. All the time.  >:D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 11, 2024, 18:13
Quote from: Ardent on February 11, 2024, 17:49I rarely use the available bhp.
The 50% extra torque. All the time.  >:D

 >:D  :))
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on February 20, 2024, 16:41
Plugs for the door cards printed.
Fingers x-ed they fit  :-*


(https://i.ibb.co/2sbJ0Rf/MR2-Deurplugged.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2sbJ0Rf)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on March 25, 2024, 11:10
Test fitted and YES! Just need a drop of glue to make extra sure they are not shaken out.

The ´kit´


(https://i.ibb.co/CM96J4p/Deur-Paneel-Dopjes.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CM96J4p)


Was rather chuffed btw. Had not used the car for too long. Gf life got in the way so although I did keep the tiny battery from going flat, the engine had not turned over for ... dunno exactly, but say two months. It bárked into life first revolution of the crank.
The drizzle restarted and with the muddy sahara dust painting the wet tarmac red did not take her out. Next week if even marginally possible: The new gf has suggested a naughty photo session  O:-)   Nooooo don´t worry; will under new management here not share in anywhichway ;)

p.s. checked and... make that three months. Shameful really.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 7, 2024, 17:31
Running with the idea of @J88TEO to get air from the side vent more directly to the hole in the rear inner wheel well.
It applies to any car with the OEM air box.

The crux is the temperature of the intake air.
The OEM design breathes in from a hole in the side wall of the engine room, under the fuse box. The air comes from the side vent. Unfortunately it a bit of an indirect route and as a result not all the air taken in is fresh from the outside and the lower the speed, the less fresh air thus higher the temp.
Thát has more impact than realised by most:

(https://chart-studio.plotly.com/~Aferoz/13/temperature-vs-volume.png)

The above graph rates the volume in ml in syringe but this can, multiplied by 10, read as %.
Meaning that air at 40 degrees C is about 10% less dense than at 20 degrees C. and at 80 degrees we are talking 30%.
This air volume ´equals´ engine output. It explains why dynometer runs are not the same as driving.

Bottom line is the importance of a cool engine room to have a cool as possible inlet tract and entry of cool as possible air.

I have done quite a lot for the former and now trying to get air more directly from the side vent.

An OBD2 reader app will read the temp registered by the MAF sensor.  Be aware that this is befóre any warming up further up stream. 
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Nvy on April 7, 2024, 19:23
Quote from: Petrus on April  7, 2024, 17:31Running with the idea of @J88TEO to get air from the side vent more directly to the hole in the rear inner wheel well.
It applies to any car with the OEM air box.

The crux is the temperature of the intake air.
The OEM design breathes in from a hole in the side wall of the engine room, under the fuse box. The air comes from the side vent. Unfortunately it a bit of an indirect route and as a result not all the air taken in is fresh from the outside and the lower the speed, the less fresh air thus higher the temp.
Thát has more impact than realised by most:

(https://chart-studio.plotly.com/~Aferoz/13/temperature-vs-volume.png)

The above graph rates the volume in ml in syringe but this can, multiplied by 10, read as %.
Meaning that air at 40 degrees C is about 10% less dense than at 20 degrees C. and at 80 degrees we are talking 30%.
This air volume ´equals´ engine output. It explains why dynometer runs are not the same as driving.

Bottom line is the importance of a cool engine room to have a cool as possible inlet tract and entry of cool as possible air.

I have done quite a lot for the former and now trying to get air more directly from the side vent.

An OBD2 reader app will read the temp registered by the MAF sensor.  Be aware that this is befóre any warming up further up stream. 

Side wont feed any cold air tbh. You would need a funnel that sticks quite a lot to do that. These are are not porsche style vents where the body work is guiding air in.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 7, 2024, 20:16
Have you looked at where the OEM inlet sucks in from?
The idea @J88TEO came up with is to let the intake suck air from the side entry more directly instead of indirectly from the engine room. N.a. benefits from every marginal gain it can get. In this case for near free. Why not give it a try.  After all my car is transformed by adding up even more marginal gains.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Gibla on April 7, 2024, 20:55
re ' Why not give it a try'

I was 95% there about 12 months ago, just needed something small fabricating (a small adaptor pipe) but sadly this was never completed or pursued.

Fresh cold intake air has to help.....as an added bonus the car should sound better also
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 7, 2024, 21:10
Quote from: Gibla on April  7, 2024, 20:55as an added bonus the car should sound better also

In this case it will not make a difference in sound BUT... it will also benefit any car with OEM inlet. If... it pans out of course  :))
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 8, 2024, 13:39
Fitted the door thingies and looked at the route for a possible air duct. 


(https://i.ibb.co/j8DNRTj/Deurdingetje7.jpg) (https://ibb.co/j8DNRTj)

(https://i.ibb.co/7gMcjqk/Deurdingetje6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7gMcjqk)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 8, 2024, 18:36
120 cm of 70 mm diameter Tygerix tube ordered @J88TEO . Should have ordered a week ago but you do not know what you do not know. It is arriving Monday but Friday in surgery and out of the spannering for >2 months  :'(

(https://i.ibb.co/Gd1NZWC/TYGERIX.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Gd1NZWC)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on April 8, 2024, 20:20
Supervise someone else.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 8, 2024, 20:33
Quote from: Ardent on April  8, 2024, 20:20Supervise someone else.

for one the fun for me is mostly in the hands on doíng
secondly can´t drive anyhow  :'(
going to be rather a challenge that  ::)  Not so much the not driving itself but the resulting complications in relation management. With the ti hip it worked out great but the shoulder rebuild is quite a different issue  :o
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on April 8, 2024, 20:36
Indeed.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: inigopete on April 8, 2024, 22:15
Good luck with the surgery. I've had a titanium plate in my collarbone, it did the job of holding the bits in place but it wasn't fun. I was very glad to have it removed. (But a bit disappointed I want allowed to keep the plate afterwards!)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 9, 2024, 08:49
Quote from: inigopete on April  8, 2024, 22:15Good luck with the surgery. I've had a titanium plate in my collarbone, it did the job of holding the bits in place but it wasn't fun. I was very glad to have it removed. (But a bit disappointed I want allowed to keep the plate afterwards!)

Thanks. Can imagine you wanted the bit  :))
Mine´s a bit unfun and am quite unsettled about it. To add insult to the injury there are no fun mitellas  :o  If I am to be stuck in one for possibly over two months I want a Hello Kitty mitella!!  >:D
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on April 9, 2024, 08:59
@inigopete
I can imagine that in a "Trophy" cabinet, not many would lust after it though.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on April 9, 2024, 09:00
@Petrus
Hope all goes well with the surgery and the recovery!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: jvanzyl on April 9, 2024, 12:17
Best of luck with the surgery @Petrus !
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: inigopete on April 9, 2024, 14:38
Quote from: Petrus on April  9, 2024, 08:49Thanks. Can imagine you wanted the bit  :))
Mine´s a bit unfun and am quite unsettled about it. To add insult to the injury there are no fun mitellas  :o  If I am to be stuck in one for possibly over two months I want a Hello Kitty mitella!!  >:D

I wanted to make a headtube badge for my bike out of it!

Yeah, my sling (mitella) was cumbersome but I found after a couple of weeks that I didn't really need it. The plate was holding the bone together, I tended to wear the sling mainly to remind myself not to use that arm. Or to remind others to give me a bit of space on that side.

Maybe you need to get in touch with this seller... ;)
https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/262518373/hello-kitty-arm-sling-three-styles-child?show_sold_out_detail=1&ref=nla_listing_details
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 9, 2024, 15:11
Thanks for the link. Maybe for a bit further on. I sure have saved the link!!!
The first month at least will be in one complete with sort of velcro-ed corset incl. both shoulders and torso. So have I think two dozen of different iron/sew on patches on their way. If that would take till Monday it will be soon enough. Dó want at least two of those horrid constraints so they can be washed OFTEN and thus the ladies can embellish them as they fit.

You may have had a lucky escape with the titanium because it is absolutely horrid stuff to work with unless you have access to the right tools.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 9, 2024, 17:34
Back from a spin. Beejeezus  :o  she is lightweight!!! Good thing it is stunningly good weather as I was having fun sliding the AD08RSs  O:-)

My apologies for being not much of a photographer but still want to share the view from my parking lot when about to leave. Driving about hereabouts with my itsiebisie makes me smile. Ah did remember to smear the factor 50 on the schnozzle as it is UV8 today  8) and the plexi stops non of that whatsoevvah.

(https://i.ibb.co/9HT4mss/Spring-Monet.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9HT4mss)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 10, 2024, 16:24
Today went for another HIGHLY enjoyable sunny ride. Warmed her up going for an errant in the village. Lóts of enthusiast waves and the cashier had seen me yesterday: ´your´s is the  8)  one with the spoiler no?!´ he volunteered.

Tanked her nearly up and parked under roof disconnected the battery. Dust cover over and... till later girl.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on April 10, 2024, 19:48
Both happy and sad at the same time.

Time to focus on YOU.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on April 10, 2024, 21:03
@Petrus said:

You may have had a lucky escape with the titanium because it is absolutely horrid stuff to work with unless you have access to the right tools.
 
I very much agree, hopefully your surgeons will be well prepared.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 16, 2024, 07:37
Quote from: Joesson on April 10, 2024, 21:03@Petrus said:

You may have had a lucky escape with the titanium because it is absolutely horrid stuff to work with unless you have access to the right tools.
 
I very much agree, hopefully your surgeons will be well prepared.


That went a bit different, as usual  ::)
There were THRÉÉ surgeons and a consort of assistants/onlookers.
The operation took several hours and was tricky apparently. The titánium feels ok though.

A lady friend is picking me up for coffee at my local. We will make a selection from the bag of Panda and HelloKitty patches for on the sling  :))
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Joesson on April 16, 2024, 08:02
Quote from: Petrus on April 16, 2024, 07:37That went a bit different, as usual  ::)
There were THRÉÉ surgeons and a consort of assistants/onlookers.
The operation took several hours and was tricky apparently. The titánium feels ok though.

A lady friend is picking me up for coffee at my local. We will make a selection from the bag of Panda and HelloKitty patches for on the sling :))

That's the start of your Occupational Therapy then!
Hope all continues going well.
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: jvanzyl on April 16, 2024, 10:25
glad you're out of it - look forward to a swift recovery!
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 16, 2024, 11:55
Quote from: Joesson on April 16, 2024, 08:02That's the start of your Occupational Therapy then!
Hope all continues going well.

 :))  :))  :))

... and back at the farm. She, WRX Girl, is off with the patches and the inlet duct is in too. Mountain Girl wants to go out and have tapas lunch on sunny Venta Talillas terrace. Elda (Gutsy Guaraní Girl) hopes to see me Thursday. ´If she wants to stay the weekend, she´s/ you´re welcome at my place´ says WRX Girl.

Occupational ´recovery´ is hard work @Joesson  ;)


Thanks @jvanzyl
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 18, 2024, 12:10
the mitella mod. is sure to improve recovery



(https://i.ibb.co/bQVRg23/Hello-Kitty-Mitella.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bQVRg23)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Ardent on April 18, 2024, 22:00
Titanium straw?  ;)

Looking well.

Jack-a-mo?
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 18, 2024, 23:02
It´s´mate´(kaa´y in Guaraní):The ´cup´ is leather clad calabaza with alpaca rim. The straw an alpaca/steel strainer.

Yes, recovery is going silly good; enjoying being véry well looked after by three lovely women. Today was out at the coast with Joy and Elda;

(https://i.ibb.co/72BTYpv/Hello-Kitty-Elda.jpg) (https://ibb.co/72BTYpv)


La vida es bella  8)
Title: Re: Southern Belle
Post by: Petrus on April 19, 2024, 11:42
The box with TRD sc kit has been dug out and seller is cleaning up/organising bits.

Doing the home work  is a bit of a challenge as all of the older info on it on Spyderchat has been erased from cyberspace. A real pity as that was very detailed first hand on the MR2.