Having a hard time working out what vehicle to hire to collect a hardtop I've purchased. Bear in mind I can't take the car itself to transport it. Tried searching for the specific dimensions but I'm finding searching for things on the internet these days is simply not as effective as it used to be. In short, the internet marketeers have ruined it for us.
Enterprise will hire me a Renault Kangoo for £20/day. Cargo area is 1.48m x 1.25m x 1.22m (L x H x W). The next size up is a tenner more expensive and this will be the first time I've driven a van so don't want to hire something that's more of a pig to drive and wastes the money.
Also don't want to drive most of the way to Brighton to discover I can't fit it in the smaller one.
Any ideas if it will fit in there? I previously read that it wouldn't fit in a Golf sized car with the seats forward (I have a Golf as my other car).
155 wide x 135 long x 40 cm tall.
It's the 155 wide that gets you!
Thanks ... I suspected it would be the width that was the problem!
You've saved me the money and the hassle and now I can hire a big enough vehicle if I can find one, looks like even the "Medium Van Commercial" (Vauxhall Vivaro) won't be big enough. The storage area is but the rear door isn't :(
Thanks Carolyn you fountain of knowledge, you!
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And now with pictures... lol
I do have a hardtop 'somewhere' in the garage.
I'd say it was closer to 145cm wide x 128cm long x 38cm tall.
@Carolyn your dimensions would deffo be enough. :)
So it's going to need the Large Commerical (Renault Master) ... anyone need owt bringing from almost-Brighton to London or vice versa!?
Nice work, both. Hopefully this will also be of use to others in a similar situation.
Funny - just measured mine as 144 x 130 x 40 cm. Is on a stand under a dust sheet though so maybe I haven't taken from the max dimensions so best to err and go with
@Carolyn Where's it got to get to from Brighton? That's literally on my doorstep and might have offered to transport it on my own '2...assuming not John o'Groats bound ;D That said, don't have it this w/e as is with garage getting leaky PAS pipes replaced.
Quote from: ManInDandism on August 2, 2019, 16:18Funny - just measured mine as 144 x 130 x 40 cm. Is on a stand under a dust sheet though so maybe I haven't taken from the max dimensions so best to err and go with @Carolyn
Where's it got to get to from Brighton? That's literally on my doorstep and might have offered to transport it on my own '2...assuming not John o'Groats bound ;D That said, don't have it this w/e as is with garage getting leaky PAS pipes replaced.
There's lunch and a pint in it for you if you could!
Postcode SE6 2TW. Take you about 75 mins each way on a good day (if there's such a thing as a good day to drive towards London!)
I have to get it by 10th Aug (Week tomorrow - Sat).
Even with the smallest dimensions offered above it looks like would need to be the huge van (if not on "2"), due to the restriction of the door opening, rather than the actual useable cargo space.
I allowed a little 'extra (not much) 'cos spot-on won't get you through the hole!
@ManInDandism Just about to hire the vehicle so no worries but thanks for thinking of me!
I need to break my van "duck" at some point, what better time to start than now!
No worries (just revised my reply after your latest post). Should have my car back on Monday and offer definitely there if needed.
Quote from: ManInDandism on August 2, 2019, 17:27No worries (just revised my reply after your latest post). Should have my car back on Monday and offer definitely there if needed.
You're a good man!
Quote from: Carolyn on August 2, 2019, 17:02I allowed a little 'extra (not much) 'cos spot-on won't get you through the hole!
It's a good shout when considering any estate car. The trunk opening and the inside space rarely match!
As a total aside - this one (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOYOTA-MR2-HARDTOP-ROOF-SILVER-WITH-FITTING-KIT-MK3-W30-2000-2007-ROADSTER-VVTi-/264414182287?hash=item3d90503b8f%3Ag%3AN4oAAOSwJh1dQDLx&nma=true&si=7jxGxF3E3Vfoj2XsvRKZ32OYaIM%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557) sold on eBay earlier this week virtually as soon as it was listed. No surprise with a 'buy it now' price of £300 including fitting kit. Bargain if you are local to Scotland. As we don't have an obvious place to point these things out I just had to muse, I bet someone on here would have loved it!
Yea that's an absolute steal! (In order to comfort myself I'm going to tell myself it "must" be stolen!). Scotland = too damn far for me, though I will be up there on a holiday in Sept.
@ManInDandism thinking about what you said it would be nice if we had a forum section for pointing out great deals on mainstream/commercial sites like the bay.
@ManInDandism and
@househead , "bargain" buys have been mentioned previously in the old " Shout box" but that was very transitory, also I have mentioned such things in "Thoughts for the day", it is quite well viewed.
Why not post in there - "I think this a bargain" or similar.
Just thinking would it not fit vertically/diagonally in a Vivaro size van.
Quote from: Mikeymead on August 3, 2019, 21:27Just thinking would it not fit vertically/diagonally in a Vivaro size van.
Personally I would only attempt that with plenty of packing. It wasn't design to cope with those sort of point loads. :(
Quote from: StuC on August 3, 2019, 21:31Quote from: Mikeymead on August 3, 2019, 21:27Just thinking would it not fit vertically/diagonally in a Vivaro size van.
Personally I would only attempt that with plenty of packing. It wasn't design to cope with those sort of point loads. :(
Well yes that goes without saying,probably wouldn't even want to store it flat in the van without a foam bed.
Maybe ... tho based on the dimensions Carolyn gave I did compare with van door size opening specs I found (although I didn't consider diagonally, I did look at door opening height).
I could well have made a mistake.
Anyway, I've brought out the big guns and hired the massive one and paid for it (£33 so not mega).
Definitely will take some packing etc with me
Quote from: househead on August 3, 2019, 22:13although I didn't consider diagonally, I did look at door opening height
And people say there is no use for trigonometry!! Lol
Quote from: Carolyn on August 2, 2019, 15:50155 wide x 135 long x 40 cm tall.
It's the 155 wide that gets you!
Thanks Carolyn, trying to work out how and where I can store the hardtop I will soon have.
Quote from: TheTigerUK on April 18, 2022, 20:23Thanks Carolyn, trying to work out how and where I can store the hardtop I will soon have.
Have a look at this:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252122341262?epid=15023781843&hash=item3ab3a99f8e:g:O8YAAOSw63FaOUYo
I had a custom covers bag. Fixed some screw in hooks in the wall to line up with the bag handles and hung it on the wall. A variation of above.
Mine's propped up against the wall in my living room.
Thanks, my wife would chuck me out if I suggested the living room, mmm an idea :) no room in my small garage, do I buy a 6' x 4' garden shed just for the top, giving it a lot of thought ::)
Quote from: TheTigerUK on April 19, 2022, 08:58Thanks, my wife would chuck me out if I suggested the living room, mmm an idea :) no room in my small garage, do I buy a 6' x 4' garden shed just for the top, giving it a lot of thought ::)
Our garage is small in plan but does have a pitched roof so I have made a loft area that is boarded out. Below that I have a rack where ladders and boards are stored so not using floor or wall space.
Some years ago I made a box top for the car, utilising a ladder rack, for camping gear. When not used I hung it from the extra low level joists I had put into our, at that time, flat roofed garage that I had formed shelving with the joists.
I created a simple pulley system to raise and lower the box top.
A similar arrangement may suit your situation if the available headroom is adequate.
Quote from: Joesson on April 19, 2022, 09:42Our garage is small in plan but does have a pitched roof so I have made a loft area that is boarded out. Below that I have a rack where ladders and boards are stored so not using floor or wall space.
Some years ago I made a box top for the car, utilising a ladder rack, for camping gear. When not used I hung it from the extra low level joists I had put into our, at that time, flat roofed garage that I had formed shelving with the joists.
I created a simple pulley system to raise and lower the box top.
A similar arrangement may suit your situation if the available headroom is adequate.
Similar solution from
@Zspeed https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?topic=71602.msg865579#msg865579
Thanks guys but my garage is small and quite packed, machines, tools etc etc and it has a flat corrugated roof (could even be asbestos as its very old.
I think I will have to buy a garden shed for it and I suppose a cover and brackets, uuuuuuuuuummmmmm :)
Quote from: SV-3 on April 19, 2022, 10:28Similar solution from @Zspeed
https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?topic=71602.msg865579#msg865579
Thanks
@SV-3, yes I still have it but no hardtop or car so
@TheTigerUK is welcome to come and try it out if he has the roof space in his garage as he doesn't live far away. I will add a couple of pics. It's for sale at a good price.
@TheTigerUK I have pm'd you the pictures as they are to big to post.
Welcome to come and inspect and try it out.
Be nice to see a 2. Saw one yesterday on the way to Corby near rockingham in a village, I had to take a picture for the hell of it. Lol
Here is it for those interested. The wife was driving, that's not me. We were on a mercy mission as I have tonsillitis.
Quote from: Zspeed on April 19, 2022, 10:55Here is it for those interested. The wife was driving, that's not me. We were on a mercy mission as I have tonsillitis.
Your wife like mine, always got an eye on me ;D ;D ;)
Not sure or the correct term.
Ring bolt?
Open ring bolt?
Quote from: Zspeed on April 19, 2022, 10:55Here is it for those interested.
Interesting side damage.
Btw. one cannot drive with tonsillitis?
Seriously. Never had it, so :-\
Quote from: Zspeed on April 19, 2022, 10:53@TheTigerUK I have pm'd you the pictures as they are to big to post.
Welcome to come and inspect and try it out.
Be nice to see a 2. Saw one yesterday on the way to Corby near rockingham in a village, I had to take a picture for the hell of it. Lol
Quote from: Petrus on April 19, 2022, 13:19Interesting side damage.
Btw. one cannot drive with tonsillitis?
Seriously. Never had it, so :-\
Lol, you can, just that my wife likes to drive if we are going anywhere together.
She is not a very good passenger so I get to sit with our daughter in the back playing games together and watch the world go by.
It's fine by me as I would be shot if I drove at all enthusiastically with her in the car, and if I can't I might as well be doing something else and save my driving time for better conditions.
It saps your of energy and my throat felt like I was literally being throttled all day. Not nice. I thought it was covid and just waiting to get a positive test but it never came so got on the phone and got a different diagnosis.
Thanks to MrT marking the plastics I was able to cut them today ready for next week.
Thanks for the offer of the top holder but your garage is gigantic compared to mine :)
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Quote from: TheTigerUK on April 19, 2022, 15:42Thanks to MrT marking the plastics I was able to cut them today ready for next week.
Ready to mount the boxing glove holders!
For me it has been another year that I have not fitted the hard top. I am saving it as an investment ;)
Quote from: TheTigerUK on April 19, 2022, 15:53My garage :)
By jóve that is impressively well equiped and organised!
Chapeau sir.
Anyone know the correct part number for the clips that go in here ? two either side, similar to the ones holding the frunk plastics but longer, the originals have gone hard so it would be nice to update with new ones while messing about in the area.
18mm od x 5mm centre x 24mm long
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Quote from: TheTigerUK on April 19, 2022, 17:53Anyone know the correct part number for the clips that go in here ? two either side, similar to the ones holding the frunk plastics but longer, the originals have gone hard so it would be nice to update with new ones while messing about in the area.
18mm od x 5mm centre x 24mm long
(https://i.imgur.com/gRnvnPh.jpg)
The heads are larger than the frunk clips. I had to replace some of mine. I bought them on eBay and they're virtually identical.
10x Clips For Mitsubishi Toyota & Nissan 7mm Push Fit Plastic Trim Panel Black (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324724943759)
Quote from: fawtytoo on April 19, 2022, 18:04The heads are larger than the frunk clips. I had to replace some of mine. I bought them on eBay and they're virtually identical.
10x Clips For Mitsubishi Toyota & Nissan 7mm Push Fit Plastic Trim Panel Black (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324724943759)
Thanks, ordered.
A question if I may, is the hard top demister cable solely for the hard top ?
Quote from: TheTigerUK on April 20, 2022, 08:50A question if I may, is the hard top demister cable solely for the hard top ?
Are there heating wires in the soft top window?
Quote from: Petrus on April 20, 2022, 08:55Are there heating wires in the soft top window?
Not wires as such but flat (copper) section heating element but your hood is either completely removed or very seldom up so you would likely not be aware.
Quote from: TheTigerUK on April 20, 2022, 08:50A question if I may, is the hard top demister cable solely for the hard top ?
Yes.
At one time a Member
@StuC made some for Members who had lost or otherwise did not have a cable, which
should come with the hard top.
PS
You could try hanging your hard top on a convenient wall with the cable, likely much stronger than @ Ardents stitching!
Quote from: Joesson on April 20, 2022, 09:33Not wires as such but flat (copper) section heating element but your hood is either completely removed or very seldom up so you would likely not be aware.
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The continuing storage quest !!
Decision finally made after eliminating a few options.
- Can't store it in the garage as not enough room.
Attic entrance too small.
Grand daughters garage but..........
My man cave got a firm no from my wife.
So Wendy house it is.
We have had the Wendy house up for over 20 years and a few of the grand kids have enjoyed it but for the last few years it has been my wifes garden storage shed.
Every year I have done a little necessary maintenance but this year it suffered in the high winds we had plus over winter a rat family must of moved in plus wet and age has started taking it toll on the wood work around the bottom and the floor in a couple of areas.
So today being a nice day I have emptied it of 20 years of bits and bobs plus the garden kit.
Cleaned it out and started on the floor, decided to use cement in some areas that had decayed worse than I thought.
Next I will lay a new floor over the old one before I start on the sides and repair/replace the roof.
The hard top has kick started me into action, just hope it gets through the kiddies door ok :)
I still say the living room is ok. It's quite a talking point when people visit me.
Quote from: fawtytoo on April 20, 2022, 20:13I still say the living room is ok. It's quite a talking point when people visit me.
Turn it upside down and it's an ikea special surely? ;D
Quote from: fawtytoo on April 20, 2022, 20:13I still say the living room is ok. It's quite a talking point when people visit me.
It would be a talking point thats for sure and I think the conversation would start with" So when did your wife leave you and why ? " ::)
Quote from: TheTigerUK on April 20, 2022, 20:34It would be a talking point thats for sure and I think the conversation would start with" So when did your wife leave you and why ? " ::)
I don't have one of those. Hence why I've got it the living room where any self-respecting bachelor would keep it.
Quote from: Hammond on April 20, 2022, 20:30Turn it upside down and it's an ikea special surely? ;D
Put some cushions in it maybe.
Quote from: fawtytoo on April 20, 2022, 20:40I don't have one of those. Hence why I've got it the living room where any self-respecting bachelor would keep it.
It all comes clear now :)
Quote from: TheTigerUK on April 20, 2022, 20:34It would be a talking point thats for sure and I think the conversation would start with" So when did your wife leave you and why ? " ::)
I really don't think the "and why?" is necessary.
Quote from: TheTigerUK on April 20, 2022, 20:34It would be a talking point thats for sure and I think the conversation would start with" So when did your wife leave you and why ? " ::)
I wanted to put a classic bicycle on the wall of the living room. The resident female objected. Ah well, not thát important no?!
Then came my birthday and #1 son gave me a wall support for a bike and ´I will help you mounting the bike this weekend dad´. So now we have a bike on the wall 8)
And if things like that are such an issue for her, she´d better leave it no?!
Ok, I did not put the Nimbus inside the house.
(because the sidecar does not fit through the front doors)
Quote from: fawtytoo on April 20, 2022, 20:40I don't have one of those. Hence why I've got it the living room where any self-respecting bachelor would keep it.
Put some cushions in it maybe.
Imo you cán both have ´your´ wife and eat it. Or something like that was it?!
Not legally married btw but definitely not bachelor 8)
p.s. do note the brackets. That is imo the key.
Quote from: Joesson on April 20, 2022, 09:37Yes.
At one time a Member @StuC made some for Members who had lost or otherwise did not have a cable, which should come with the hard top.
Can't remember when I last made one of those. 🤦🏻�♂️
Is there still a need for them? 🤷�♂️
Quote from: Petrus on April 21, 2022, 08:53I wanted to put a classic bicycle on the wall of the living room. The resident female objected. Ah well, not thát important no?!
Then came my birthday and #1 son gave me a wall support for a bike and ´I will help you mounting the bike this weekend dad´. So now we have a bike on the wall 8)
And if things like that are such an issue for her, she´d better leave it no?!
Ok, I did not put the Nimbus inside the house. (because the sidecar does not fit through the front doors)
Funnily enough if my son had said it was a good idea I think my wife would of let me, he can do no wrong, whereas ................:)
Quote from: TheTigerUK on April 21, 2022, 19:01Funnily enough if my son had said it was a good idea I think my wife would of let me, he can do no wrong, whereas ................:)
I call that an invitation to go though an open door :))
Quote from: StuC on April 21, 2022, 18:45Can't remember when I last made one of those. 🤦🏻�♂️
Is there still a need for them? 🤷�♂️
In answer to
Q1 Stu 'twas some years past, certainly well BC.
Q2
@TheTigerUK asked
A question if I may, is the hard top demister cable solely for the hard top ?I did answer in the affirmative and went on to mention your good self Stu by way of pointing out to the OP that he will need one with his new acquisition. If that is not forthcoming at least one would be required!
Quote from: Joesson on April 21, 2022, 21:00If that is not forthcoming at least one would be required!
I don´t have a cable either but then have not mist (pun intended) it.