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The Workshop => General => Topic started by: Chilli Girl on July 1, 2021, 11:38

Title: Hardtops!
Post by: Chilli Girl on July 1, 2021, 11:38
Just out of interest, I understand that these are rapidly increasing in price - what's the going rate at moment? 1k depending on condition?
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: Nvy on July 1, 2021, 12:02
Quote from: Chilli Girl on July  1, 2021, 11:38Just out of interest, I understand that these are rapidly increasing in price - what's the going rate at moment? 1k depending on condition?

I saw like different ads asking for 1k the last 2 weeks. I am happy that you helped me to get mine, now it would be close to impossible.
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: Chilli Girl on July 1, 2021, 12:12
Just a shame it got damaged on one corner! :(
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: Petrus on July 1, 2021, 12:42
Over here it has gone from sevral being offered on ad sites for mónths at 500€ to being wanted (without a shimmer of a hope) for 750 in two years.

Currently the only realistuc way to get one over here is to buy a car that comes with it. It is more of a sales plus than a value added in the price.
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: s12vea on July 1, 2021, 16:00
Quote from: Chilli Girl on July  1, 2021, 11:38Just out of interest, I understand that these are rapidly increasing in price - what's the going rate at moment? 1k depending on condition?
I would say £800 sale price vs £1000 advertised price at the minute
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: The Other Stu on July 1, 2021, 16:23
I think even with damage, if it came with the kit, someone would bite your arm off at £750.
Which is bonkers. I sold mine for £450 a couple of years back.

@s12vea I've seen several change hands for over £900 on FB over the Winter. Particularly those that aren't silver.

ISTR one of the traders mentioned that they let a sable one auction and it went to over £1200. Like this blue one
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353495512417

Some of the red ones have gone for over £800 without fitting kit too. Other people have strangely not bothered researching and put them up for £500 BIN with kit and unsurprisingly they sold in minutes. I'd be lying if I didn't say I'd invest in a black one (for instance) if it came up with fitting kit for £500.
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: fawtytoo on July 1, 2021, 19:05
Quote from: The Other Stu on July  1, 2021, 16:23ISTR one of the traders mentioned that they let a sable one auction and it went to over £1200. Like this blue one
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353495512417
That stand and cover are worth £150. If you deduct that, it's around £1000.
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: s12vea on July 1, 2021, 19:11
Quote from: The Other Stu on July  1, 2021, 16:23I think even with damage, if it came with the kit, someone would bite your arm off at £750.
Which is bonkers. I sold mine for £450 a couple of years back.

@s12vea I've seen several change hands for over £900 on FB over the Winter. Particularly those that aren't silver.

ISTR one of the traders mentioned that they let a sable one auction and it went to over £1200. Like this blue one
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353495512417

Some of the red ones have gone for over £800 without fitting kit too. Other people have strangely not bothered researching and put them up for £500 BIN with kit and unsurprisingly they sold in minutes. I'd be lying if I didn't say I'd invest in a black one (for instance) if it came up with fitting kit for £500.
I guess if it's the right colour and local I would pay more as well.
Genuinely nice to see some of the parts demanding strong money. Only wish I knew before hand and kept a few in stock lol
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: Bossworld on July 5, 2021, 21:46
Quote from: The Other Stu on July  1, 2021, 16:23I think even with damage, if it came with the kit, someone would bite your arm off at £750.
Which is bonkers. I sold mine for £450 a couple of years back.



It pains me that I got rid of mine for £450 as judging by others that had gone, I was far too honest in my description (had one small scratch running along the top).  The buyer (who was looking to swap colour) promptly put their silver one up for £500.

Think it was about 4 years ago in fairness, it seems the Americans are buying them up and at those kind of base prices, presumably whoever was sending them across the pond previously was still making good money.  Perhaps not in the current climate though, given all the issues with international shipping and freight.
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: Bernie on July 5, 2021, 21:59
The current eBay market is bonkers

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Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: 105e on July 6, 2021, 08:54
Surely no one is actually paying those £1000 plus prices.
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: 1979scotte on July 6, 2021, 10:07
Quote from: 105e on July  6, 2021, 08:54Surely no one is actually paying those £1000 plus prices.

I wouldn't but I have bought 2 dogs in the last 2 months at highly inflated lockdown prices.
Every year there are less hardtops so the prices have to climb.
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: Zxrob on July 6, 2021, 10:50
Quote from: 105e on July  6, 2021, 08:54Surely no one is actually paying those £1000 plus prices.

Can you remember a few months back, the black one on ebay that looked like it at been hand painted with hammerite, that went for around £750 I believe

Rob
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: Petrus on July 6, 2021, 15:28
Quote from: 1979scotte on July  6, 2021, 10:07I wouldn't but I have bought 2 dogs in the last 2 months at highly inflated lockdown prices.


By Jove, you are mentionning soemthing there; idíotic those current (puppy) dog prices!!

The small dogs are going for silly money here. Quite a few also to keep the confined kids happy. And they sell at record speed too.

Tortoises on the other hand are slower moving.
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: Joesson on July 6, 2021, 15:32
Quote from: Petrus on July  6, 2021, 15:28
Quote from: 1979scotte on July  6, 2021, 10:07I wouldn't but I have bought 2 dogs in the last 2 months at highly inflated lockdown prices.


By Jove, you are mentionning soemthing there; idíotic those current (puppy) dog prices!!

The small dogs are going for silly money here. Quite a few also to keep the confined kids happy. And they sell at record speed too.

Tortoises on the other hand are slower moving.


Hard top, tortoises, slower moving wrong/ right in ao many ways.
You posted that in the wrong section Petrus!
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: Petrus on July 6, 2021, 16:05
Totally on porpoise my dear Joesson  8)
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: Joesson on July 6, 2021, 16:13
Quote from: Petrus on July  6, 2021, 16:05Totally on porpoise my dear Joesson  8)

You did it again!
Who was it said that humour doesn't translate?
Pretty sure it wasn't you.
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: Petrus on July 6, 2021, 16:15
Quote from: Joesson on July  6, 2021, 16:13
Quote from: Petrus on July  6, 2021, 16:05Totally on porpoise my dear Joesson  8)

You did it again!
Who was it said that humour doesn't translate?
Pretty sure it wasn't you.

A working mind is a joy forever. Or something like that ;-)
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: Zxrob on July 14, 2021, 11:07
Quote from: s12vea on July  1, 2021, 16:00
Quote from: Chilli Girl on July  1, 2021, 11:38Just out of interest, I understand that these are rapidly increasing in price - what's the going rate at moment? 1k depending on condition?
I would say £800 sale price vs £1000 advertised price at the minute

I was watching one on fleeybay, silver, just gone for over £1200 :o

Rob
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: s12vea on July 14, 2021, 15:55
Quote from: Zxrob on July 14, 2021, 11:07
Quote from: s12vea on July  1, 2021, 16:00
Quote from: Chilli Girl on July  1, 2021, 11:38Just out of interest, I understand that these are rapidly increasing in price - what's the going rate at moment? 1k depending on condition?
I would say £800 sale price vs £1000 advertised price at the minute

I was watching one on fleeybay, silver, just gone for over £1200 :o

Rob
I saw that, just crazy! I guess the new owner is on the forum as per one of his delivery network posts. Always hard to see the value at £1200 for me but at if the buyer is happy to pay that much fair play.
Just wish I had a garage full of hardtop snow when they were only a few hundred quid
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: Nvy on July 14, 2021, 16:29
More ppl sending them to US(even some in batches) for sweet money. Saw a post of a guy sending 4 at a time, there is a demand - the price will go up.
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: BARNPOT2000 on July 16, 2021, 20:07
Quote from: Chilli Girl on July  1, 2021, 11:38Just out of interest, I understand that these are rapidly increasing in price - what's the going rate at moment? 1k depending on condition?
Hi, I just bought one off ebay and if you take out the fitting kit, say £250 for that then the top was £1k. It was a bit of a shock as to how much they are now...
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: BARNPOT2000 on July 16, 2021, 20:12
Quote from: s12vea on July 14, 2021, 15:55
Quote from: Zxrob on July 14, 2021, 11:07
Quote from: s12vea on July  1, 2021, 16:00
Quote from: Chilli Girl on July  1, 2021, 11:38Just out of interest, I understand that these are rapidly increasing in price - what's the going rate at moment? 1k depending on condition?
I would say £800 sale price vs £1000 advertised price at the minute

I was watching one on fleeybay, silver, just gone for over £1200 :o

Rob
I saw that, just crazy! I guess the new owner is on the forum as per one of his delivery network posts. Always hard to see the value at £1200 for me but at if the buyer is happy to pay that much fair play.
Just wish I had a garage full of hardtop snow when they were only a few hundred quid
Yep that was probably me , obviously would have liked to have got it for less, but I guess I wasnt the only one willing to push the boat out to get one, happy to have got a decent one though.
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: s12vea on July 16, 2021, 20:22
Quote from: BARNPOT2000 on July 16, 2021, 20:12
Quote from: s12vea on July 14, 2021, 15:55
Quote from: Zxrob on July 14, 2021, 11:07
Quote from: s12vea on July  1, 2021, 16:00
Quote from: Chilli Girl on July  1, 2021, 11:38Just out of interest, I understand that these are rapidly increasing in price - what's the going rate at moment? 1k depending on condition?
I would say £800 sale price vs £1000 advertised price at the minute

I was watching one on fleeybay, silver, just gone for over £1200 :o

Rob
I saw that, just crazy! I guess the new owner is on the forum as per one of his delivery network posts. Always hard to see the value at £1200 for me but at if the buyer is happy to pay that much fair play.
Just wish I had a garage full of hardtop snow when they were only a few hundred quid
Yep that was probably me , obviously would have liked to have got it for less, but I guess I wasnt the only one willing to push the boat out to get one, happy to have got a decent one though.

I guess if you were happy to pay that price it's a win!
They do look nice with the hardtop on and now you have the best of both
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: Bossworld on July 16, 2021, 20:49
It always seemed plausible that as car numbers went down and the ratio of hard tops to cars improved, they may drop in price.

But if they're being shipped abroad never to be seen again..

I genuinely think at this late stage of the MR2's life, even if you pay 'over the odds', you won't lose much if you sell it separate to the car in the future.
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: BARNPOT2000 on July 16, 2021, 21:43
Quote from: s12vea on July 16, 2021, 20:22
Quote from: BARNPOT2000 on July 16, 2021, 20:12
Quote from: s12vea on July 14, 2021, 15:55
Quote from: Zxrob on July 14, 2021, 11:07
Quote from: s12vea on July  1, 2021, 16:00
Quote from: Chilli Girl on July  1, 2021, 11:38Just out of interest, I understand that these are rapidly increasing in price - what's the going rate at moment? 1k depending on condition?
I would say £800 sale price vs £1000 advertised price at the minute

I was watching one on fleeybay, silver, just gone for over £1200 :o

Rob
I saw that, just crazy! I guess the new owner is on the forum as per one of his delivery network posts. Always hard to see the value at £1200 for me but at if the buyer is happy to pay that much fair play.
Just wish I had a garage full of hardtop snow when they were only a few hundred quid
Yep that was probably me , obviously would have liked to have got it for less, but I guess I wasnt the only one willing to push the boat out to get one, happy to have got a decent one though.

I guess if you were happy to pay that price it's a win!
They do look nice with the hardtop on and now you have the best of both
I am hoping both the car and the hardtop will, at least , hold their price. Its not the main reason for wanting the car of course but it would be nice to think they are not depreciating. ;)
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: BARNPOT2000 on July 18, 2021, 21:26
By the way, is it possible to buy the rubber seals for the hardtops? I'm thinking they will need replacing in time.
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: J88TEO on July 19, 2021, 15:18
I saw it somewhere...I think it was a Malaysian dealer, NOS.
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: BARNPOT2000 on July 19, 2021, 20:48
Quote from: J88TEO on July 19, 2021, 15:18I saw it somewhere...I think it was a Malaysian dealer, NOS.
Hens teeth then 😂
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: Iain on July 20, 2021, 07:01
Quote from: BARNPOT2000 on July 18, 2021, 21:26By the way, is it possible to buy the rubber seals for the hardtops? I'm thinking they will need replacing in time.

Some of the rubber seals you may be able to find on ebay (or similar) as universal ones and cut them yourself.

One of the small ones is almost identical to one that ran along the cills/bottom of doors on my old mini.
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: BARNPOT2000 on July 20, 2021, 12:43
Quote from: Iain on July 20, 2021, 07:01
Quote from: BARNPOT2000 on July 18, 2021, 21:26By the way, is it possible to buy the rubber seals for the hardtops? I'm thinking they will need replacing in time.

Some of the rubber seals you may be able to find on ebay (or similar) as universal ones and cut them yourself.

One of the small ones is almost identical to one that ran along the cills/bottom of doors on my old mini.
Thanks, I'll keep a look out for them.
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: J88TEO on July 20, 2021, 15:45
Quote from: BARNPOT2000 on July 19, 2021, 20:48
Quote from: J88TEO on July 19, 2021, 15:18I saw it somewhere...I think it was a Malaysian dealer, NOS.
Hens teeth then 😂
USD650.00 from Midship garage - still available.https://midshipgarage.com/products/toyota-genuine-oem-mr2-spyder-zzw30-99-07-complete-hardtop-side-rear-window-weatherstrip-protector-seal-kit?variant=21573435818089
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: Roj on July 20, 2021, 17:36
Can't recall where I saw it but someone is making carbon fibre hardtops for around EUR2k including seals and possibly a rear screen. Think they're at pre-production stage just now but will be taking orders soon. If I find the link/ad I'll post it here. £2k (inc customs, P&P etc.) seems nuts at first but when you compare it to the current price of OEM items it's not crazy, plus losing a few kilos up high would go a little way to justifying the extra expense for some of the more serious track addicts :)

The guy who builds the RS200 reps is also looking into making hardtops from fibreglass, not sure what stage he's at though.
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: Joesson on July 20, 2021, 18:35
Quote from: Roj on July 20, 2021, 17:36Can't recall where I saw it but someone is making carbon fibre hardtops for around EUR2k including seals and possibly a rear screen. Think they're at pre-production stage just now but will be taking orders soon. If I find the link/ad I'll post it here. £2k (inc customs, P&P etc.) seems nuts at first but when you compare it to the current price of OEM items it's not crazy, plus losing a few kilos up high would go a little way to justifying the extra expense for some of the more serious track addicts :)

The guy who builds the RS200 reps is also looking into making hardtops from fibreglass, not sure what stage he's at though.


Iirc it was sometime BC in 2019 that I contacted a couple of glass fibre fabricators about this and put contact details on here.
The price differential then was perhaps considered to be too much, as mentioned elsewhere, time changes many things.
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: BARNPOT2000 on July 20, 2021, 21:24
Quote from: J88TEO on July 20, 2021, 15:45
Quote from: BARNPOT2000 on July 19, 2021, 20:48
Quote from: J88TEO on July 19, 2021, 15:18I saw it somewhere...I think it was a Malaysian dealer, NOS.
Hens teeth then 😂
USD650.00 from Midship garage - still available.https://midshipgarage.com/products/toyota-genuine-oem-mr2-spyder-zzw30-99-07-complete-hardtop-side-rear-window-weatherstrip-protector-seal-kit?variant=21573435818089
650 dollars and its missing a left side seal, wow, better refurbish the existing ones then 😮.
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: fawtytoo on July 20, 2021, 21:44
Also from Midship Garage (currently unavailable):
oem-hardtop-1d0-liquid-silver-metallic (https://midshipgarage.com/collections/used-marketplace/products/oem-hardtop-1d0-liquid-silver-metallic?variant=3340647301144)

£2800?!  :o
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: Chilli Girl on September 17, 2021, 21:33
Sable one for £1,350 on Gumtree! That's a cheaper one. :o
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: Zxrob on September 17, 2021, 21:45
Quote from: Chilli Girl on September 17, 2021, 21:33Sable one for £1,350 on Gumtree! That's a cheaper one. :o

Its Mad Jane but someone will probably buy it

Rob
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: Carolyn on September 18, 2021, 10:18
In a couple of month's time, I'll be doubling the value of my car.

I'll be putting the hardtop on.
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: fawtytoo on September 24, 2021, 20:10
One on eBay just went for £1450. (If that's what he actually got.)

I'm keeping mine. The value of my '2 keeps improving because of it.
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: ManInDandism on October 4, 2021, 21:43
Nice 'cheap' one HERE (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115028191225?hash=item1ac836e7f9:g:jHkAAOSw9EZhW1qv) - a mere £500. 

Minor paintwork damage but looks like a bargain at today's prices!
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: Ardent on October 4, 2021, 22:31
No longer available apparently
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: ManInDandism on October 4, 2021, 22:52
Quote from: Ardent on October  4, 2021, 22:31No longer available apparently

It sold straight away (surprise, surprise).
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: J88TEO on October 5, 2021, 12:18
wow!
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: Petrus on October 5, 2021, 19:32
tbh it was not rocket science to see that, the HT being sought after, coming.


Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: Roj on October 9, 2021, 08:34
I had to resort to buying another car with a hardtop, just to get it at a decent price. The intention was to swap the HT onto mine and sell the 'new' car on, but it looks like it's now staying, so I'll be 2-squared :)
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: Mr2Adam77 on October 9, 2021, 12:53
It's coming upto the time I think I'll try sell my hardtop.
Not the best time obviously weather wise with winter on It's way but probably is timewise/price wise to get the maximum possible.
Had zero storage for it the last 2 years for summer so not had the roof off to fully enjoy the convertible live.
Any tips from anyone who's let theirs go greatly appreciated.
It's red which from a quick search doesn't seem to be so popular of those listed lately.
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: Joesson on October 9, 2021, 15:32
Quote from: Mr2Adam77 on October  9, 2021, 12:53It's coming upto the time I think I'll try sell my hardtop.
Not the best time obviously weather wise with winter on It's way but probably is timewise/price wise to get the maximum possible.
Had zero storage for it the last 2 years for summer so not had the roof off to fully enjoy the convertible live.
Any tips from anyone who's let theirs go greatly appreciated.
It's red which from a quick search doesn't seem to be so popular of those listed lately.



A red top is perhaps best suited to a red car and so would be well received by such an owner. As colours other than black would imo not suit a red so the red car owner would be the prime customer and likely pay a premium.
Otherwise, again, imo, if you cannot hook a red owner the "premium" would need to be discounted to allow for the red top to be sprayed or wrapped.
For "Not so popular" you could say rare. Maybe start off your "pitch" with Rare Red Hard Top!
Good luck with the sale.
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: Mr2Adam77 on October 10, 2021, 10:23
Thanks for the input/advice Joesson.
Yeah I'm not really looking at the respray buyers to be honest as my roof was relaqued and resprayed only 2 years ago!!..would kind if be a waste.
As you say ideally it's only going to appeal to us chilli red owners.
Lovely day here today so will get on with taking pics and go from there.

Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: Bossworld on October 15, 2021, 10:12
Red and blue seem to be going around £1000 on eBay, Sable and black £1400 odd. There's a recently sold Sable one (originally red but 'professionally resprayed') that went for a higher price.

I've had to pull the FB listing for my mum's old car, it seems to have had a surge in search results this week as I've just been bombarded with questions about a hard top that isn't included anyway.
Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: Mr2Adam77 on October 15, 2021, 13:41
Listed mine on a Facebook group this week!!Got a bit of a kicking from a few for listing it for £1,500 ono!!
I guess cause I'm not desperate to sell it or have time to be dealing with low ball offers I listed it at a premium price so only serious potential buyers would come forth with offers.
The roof respray was done as people in this group would have seen in my introduction thread by my 40yrs of experienced professional sprayer uncle who did the rest of my car not long ago.Again to the same high spec with multiple upon multiple layers of paint,scratch resistance etc..Not really the normal standard of respray if you was a paying customer.
No doubt the one's moaning will be the 1st one's moaning if those selling roofs,parts or even the cars started selling off for nothing..Then wonder why the market value of their own cars/roofs,parts have dropped.
Never a good thing when buyers dictate the market..That's just basic economics and the only losers are the holders or sellers.
Anyway half rant over 😁



Title: Re: Hardtops!
Post by: carolineasb on October 15, 2021, 17:21
Can imagine exactly which Facebook page you are referring to! I remove myself from that one some time ago.

So glad we've got our one HT between three cars lol! At least, it's silver and goes with the silver blue and black :)