Well the 2 is of course my favourite but I quite like the Honda s2000 and Porsche Boxter.
Favourite car if I could afford it would have to be the Porsche Carrera GT.
But at £350k I think Ive got a long way to go yet!
Lotus elise or an S2000 along the same lines of the mr2 im in love with these afordable racing cars, not to exotic but lots of fun. s8) 8) s8)
If were talking serious money then i would have had a Focus RS, Honda S2000, Porker, RX-8.
There is a focus RS for sale at the garage opposite my work... i keep driving past thinkging "wonder what they would give me for my '2" and then have to kick myself voilently for thinking such a thought! s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
Quote from: "petal_skipraider"Lotus elise or an S2000 along the same lines of the mr2 im in love with these afordable racing cars, not to exotic but lots of fun. s8) 8) s8)
yeah but the S2k isn't a affordable racer, its expensive in every way. Doubt you'd be bale to replace a race blown engine easily or quickly for cheep. Thats the beauty of the MR2 s:) :) s:)
*checks no-one is looking*
I'd quite like a VX220 Turbo.....
*runs away quick-sharp*
Actually a VX220 Turbo kicked my ass the other day when I tried to race it! Permormance s:D :D s:D But style and interior s:? :? s:?
Quote from: "krisclarkuk"Focus RS, focus RS etc s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
When I traded in my focus for a new one the other week, twas talking to the sales guy as you do. Apparently the RS has some major! performance problems, mainly in the overheating department which is causing the engine to cut out in high revs.
I knew the ST170 was seriously underpowered, but I would have expected more from the RS, I think you should knock it off your list really mate!.
Quote from: "Slacey"*checks no-one is looking*
I'd quite like a VX220 Turbo.....
*runs away quick-sharp*
I totaly agree, I can't understand why anyone would want to buy the V6 Clio when for less cash they could have a 911 keeper upper VXT.
'cause it's got a Vauxhall badge on?
Quote from: "cstevens"Quote from: "krisclarkuk"Focus RS, focus RS etc s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
When I traded in my focus for a new one the other week, twas talking to the sales guy as you do. Apparently the RS has some major! performance problems, mainly in the overheating department which is causing the engine to cut out in high revs.
I knew the ST170 was seriously underpowered, but I would have expected more from the RS, I think you should knock it off your list really mate!.
I kicked a RS Forus's ass the other day, really no BS I was off the line and into the first bend before he knew what hit him, he was tryin' as well. He held it in a straght but I was very un impressed. Maybe it was too new.
I would like to say I got a hear of his engine, but my Tannabe was screeming to much s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
Already had an MX-5 so I'd have to stretch to an S2K instead.
Quote from: "phil4"'cause it's got a Vauxhall badge on?
Take the one off the rear, that V6 Clio would never get to see the one stuck on the front.
Quote from: "WoodenDummy"I kicked a RS Forus's ass the other day, really no BS I was off the line and into the first bend before he knew what hit him....................
I did the same a while back with a scooby thing, in bends there aint much that can kick us. My boss here has a scooby and still thinks he has the fastest car on earth and doesnt believe that a little MR2 R can kick his big fat ugly saloon car butt.
Could everyone please post up a pic of their ride in their next post please Im dying to see what everyone elses 2's look like!
Check out my site!
m http://www.mr2-photos.co.uk/home_cs.htm (http://www.mr2-photos.co.uk/home_cs.htm) m
When you have some photos of yours let me know, I can add them to the site!.
Quote from: "bluephoenix"Could everyone please post up a pic of their ride in their next post please Im dying to see what everyone elses 2's look like!
(http://www.btinternet.com/~ben7falk/MR2Castle1.jpg)
(http://www.btinternet.com/~ben7falk/Painted1.JPG)
(http://www.btinternet.com/~ben7falk/Painted2.JPG)
(http://www.btinternet.com/~ben7falk/Tanabe1.JPG)
(http://www.btinternet.com/~ben7falk/Tanabe4.JPG)
Just an 'ickle on then...
(http://www.spydermagazine.com/files/seancar.jpg)
Wooden dummy, have you PAINTED your reg on your bonnet? And what is the badge on the front?
You know we love those wheels!
I need to retake this arty shot, with my new ice scraper/wind deflectors in place.
(http://www.mr2-photos.co.uk/images/cs_car/mr2_22.jpg)
Slacey your black beast looks just like my old one!!!! s:cry: :cry: s:cry: Rest her soull!
No its stuck on, I wanted to make sure more air was getting to the radiator, and the badge is from the Mk1 MR2 I managed to put on its roof on track.
heres my baby on her first day with me:
(http://www.mr2-roadster.co.uk/photos/first-day/S2300003.jpg)
OK so what about pics of the drivers now???
Wanna see whos behind those wheels!!!!
Fights.... urge... to make.... sarcastic.... comment! s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Are you on a perve mission or something?
I think Liz has pics of a load of us at the chemlsford meet on here site... forget the URL....
Here we go...Kris I am ashamed at you not knowing where they are !!!
(http://www.mr2-photos.co.uk/images/chlm_car/mr2_20.jpg)
(http://www.mr2-photos.co.uk/images/chlm_car/mr2_18.jpg)
Perve mission?? Why do you all wear baraclavas in public or something?
Just thought it would be nice to put a face to the car!
Jeez! s:? :? s:?
Quote from: "bluephoenix"Perve mission?? Why do you all wear baraclavas in public or something?
Just thought it would be nice to put a face to the car!
Jeez! s:? :? s:?
no... its rubber if you must know! (JOKE JOKE JOKE! s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol: )
thats me, second photo, blue car, white t-shirt, black jacket. SteveJ in the black next to me, Markiii next to him... silver..... ummm... topless?
Kris does where a balaclava, cos I keep stalking him. He found me asleep in his front garden one morning. I got there early so I could copy his mods.
Quote from: "cstevens"Kris does where a balaclava, cos I keep stalking him. He found me asleep in his front garden one morning. I got there early so I could copy his mods.
Look, the restraining order stops you from talking about that 'offence'... dont make me press charges again! s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Quote from: "krisclarkuk"no... its rubber if you must know! (JOKE JOKE JOKE! s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol: )
That's MY department. Ask WoodenDummy all about it.
Again, I'm joking...... s:?: :?: s:?:
please dont post them pics up again.. im still not sleeping because i get flashbacks! s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Hey guess wot I have coming for my new ford focus at the weekend?....yep, clear repeaters and new clear front indicators....PLUS those cool silver bulbs that you just got!.
HAHA...even my Focus will look like your 2 soon!
Quote from: "cstevens"Hey guess wot I have coming for my new ford focus at the weekend?....yep, clear repeaters and new clear front indicators....PLUS those cool silver bulbs that you just got!.
HAHA...even my Focus will look like your 2 soon!
s:cry: :cry: s:cry: s:cry: :cry: s:cry:
Quote from: "krisclarkuk"please dont post them pics up again.. im still not sleeping because i get flashbacks! s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
If nothing else, I'll be remembered as 'that really wierd bloke' from MR2ROC! s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Already have the black mesh at the front, thinking of getting some kick plates too!
Well this is me:
(http://www.imoc.co.uk/users/upload/Tom..jpg)
Driving in my 2 Im used to enclosed spaces and this basket looked like a good place to climb into when I was drunk a few weeks ago!
and this is him just 5 mins later!
(http://www.mr2-roadster.co.uk/rocstuff/Tom.jpg)
s:? :? s:? s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
LMAO That is brilliant! s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
That, is EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Pretty close actually! s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Check this out though, Id glady go around looking like that all the time If I could have one of these:
(http://www.imoc.co.uk/users/upload/carreragt03_11_800.jpg)
Droool!! s:shock: :shock: s:shock: s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
Nuf said, that is an excellent drool drool car!
Sorry, couldnt resist! s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Now that is a nice car.... s:D :D s:D
Actually with the moustache youve given me in the pic I look like a cross between Krusty the clown and Magnum PI!!!!
Quote from: "bluephoenix"Actually with the moustache youve given me in the pic I look like a cross between Krusty the clown and Magnum PI!!!!
Well it certainly proved that adding a tash will add 10 years to your age.
Quote from: "bluephoenix"Could everyone please post up a pic of their ride in their next post please Im dying to see what everyone elses 2's look like!
(http://www.mr2spyders.com/SHP-1001.jpg)
Picture taken by Bob Lewis, my Spyder, 2 Miatae, 1 Crown Victoria. Our hands were in the air when the picture was taken. He was not amused.
If you tickle my tummy I giggle...
(http://www.btinternet.com/~ben7falk/Face1.JPG)
...someone tickle my tummy...
No cos your trouble in your little yellow terror! s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
(http://www.mr2-roadster.co.uk/rocstuff/Face1.jpg)
(sorry, couldnt resist mate! s:lol: :lol: s:lol: )
I would wait for the fourth generation of the MR2 roadster to come out on production, be the first UK owner and in the meantime, I would be quite happy catching public transport or walking
Before anyone says what if the fourth generation does not come I would happily go back to my Mk1 until my zimmer frame days s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
The cars already mentioned are very nice, but for me it would have to be the E-type Jag. This car will never go out of fashion additionally it will always be stylish. One day,one day, mmmmmmm
I would trade my lagoon blue in tomorrow for the right deal on one of these. I would stick to the blue as in the pictures in order to remember my 2.
(http://www.mr2-photos.co.uk/images/911_1.jpg)
(http://www.mr2-photos.co.uk/images/911_2.jpg)
Carrera... yum yum! s:D :D s:D
Quote from: "krisclarkuk"No cos your trouble in your little yellow terror! s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
(http://www.mr2-roadster.co.uk/rocstuff/Face1.jpg)
(sorry, couldnt resist mate! s:lol: :lol: s:lol: )
I imagine the hat making a *put put put sound....
I've seen worse of me, isn't that right Animal s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
(http://blewgo.is-a-geek.com/trdata/uploads/post-1-47860-wd.jpg)
yep... that will do it! s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
WD, I can honestly say that pic is even funnier the second time round!
Have you still got the others? s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
I haven't laughed at a thread so much in ages!!! Class people, complete class.......... s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
As for the cars I would want, well I think everyone knows already what I want........ s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol: Begins with L, ends in S, and has a girls name for the second. Yum.......... s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
Mind you, I could list about 20 cars that I would want if money no object, but I won't bore you with them all.......
Lets just say, I would have my own little working museum......
Oh, go on then........here goes...... s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Lancia Stratos
Lancia Delta Integrale Evo3
Aston Martin DB5
Aston Martin Vanquish
Lotus Elise 111
Caterham 7 R300
McF1 (pushing the budget a little maybe s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol: )
E-type
Impreza P1 or 22B
EvoVIII
Ferrari Dino (the ONLY Ferrari)
Radical
The list goes on....... s:roll: :roll: s:roll: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Quote from: "John Woodward"Ferrari Dino (the ONLY Ferrari)
Oooooooooooohhhhh yes....
Slacey wrote:QuoteFerrari Dino (the ONLY Ferrari)
Oooooooooooohhhhh yes....
You KNOW it..........grrrrrrrr......yum..... s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
Quote from: "John Woodward"As for the cars I would want, well I think everyone knows already what I want........ s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol: Begins with L, ends in S, and has a girls name for the second.
A Lexus? Which model has a girl's name? s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
OI! I'm NOT Alan Partridge!!! s:evil: :evil: s:evil: s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
*Goes off into dream like state thinking of me on stage with leather pants on........*
s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Just to clarify, I have actually now narrowed down my choice of Elise now too. I think it would HAVE to be the 111S. Still has the delicacy, but also has a stereo......! s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
A car I have been having wet dreams about since I was a kid, is the Aston Martin, any Aston Martin. There hasn't been a more beautiful car than the DB5 or the Vanquish in modern days...
(http://www.wapers.com/vehicles/koenigsegg/koenigsegg1.jpg)
What the hell is that woodendummy?
That my friend is the Koenigsegg. Everything on it adjusts. You can change every part of it for the different track your running on, from long straights to tight twists and it just about out performs everything on the road.
I have a friend called Steve. He was driving the support van (X5 4.6) for the Koenig in the Gumball Rally in the states earlier this year. He said the couple of times he was in it it was wicked fast. Also a little fragile though.
They guy who owned it blew something on it (either a clutch or a cam or something) and so was desperate to find a replacement part. Dificult as there was only one other car in the whole US. So what does he do???
He buys the other car, takes the part he needs, swaps it across, and continues driving. Thats SERIOUS money for a SERIOUS car!
Quote from: "Emmanuel"A car I have been having wet dreams about since I was a kid, is the Aston Martin, any Aston Martin. There hasn't been a more beautiful car than the DB5 or the Vanquish in modern days...
Yep, if I ever win/make some serious money then one or the other (or both!) will be right near the top of my shopping list!
I know a bloke who owned a DB5 in the 80's, when classic cars rocketted in price. He got an offer for the car and couldn't resist selling it to make a few grand... the following week the purchaser sold it on for double! The guy in question had plenty of money and was hardly renowned for rushing to the bar and getting his wallet out... in fact you were lucky if he ever got to the bar... so he didn't get very much sympathy!!
DB5.........without question THE most beautiful car EVER designed.
Shush! No arguments. Anyone who wants to is wrong. I am right!
Quickly followed by the DB7, the E-type and the Vanquish......
And as much as people think, there isn't a Ferrari on earth that comes close to any of these. It ONLY because the default colour is Red and that they are low, sleek and can look dramatic. Paint a Cat 7 that colour and tell me it doesn't look dramatic.........
See, told you I was right........ s:shock: :shock: s:shock: s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
aint we gone off a bit on 'dream cars' rather than 'if i couldnt have a roadster i would have got.... cos i have the money for that' s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Fair point Kris!
Lotus Elise then! s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Quote from: "krisclarkuk"aint we gone off a bit on 'dream cars' rather than 'if i couldnt have a roadster i would have got.... cos i have the money for that' s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Fair enough! Well... if the (only) local Alfa dealer hadn't pi$$ed me off, I'd probably be driving an Alfa Spider right now (so thanks v much Alfa... the most helpful thing you ever did was send me looking for an alternative roadster!). Otherwise, it would probably be an MX5, unless I'd decided I didn't want one because my mate was on his third one by then! I'd fancied an S2000, but they were still a bit expensive to afford/justify.
Quote from: "krisclarkuk"aint we gone off a bit on 'dream cars' rather than 'if i couldnt have a roadster i would have got.... cos i have the money for that' s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Have you become Mr Boring, Mr Admin, Mr Moderator or something...wheres that Kris spirit we all know. Anyway...off topic, may get another slap from Mr Kris the wannabee moderator.
Anyone want to buy some second hand DVD's? s:o :o s:o
Quote from: "cstevens"Have you become Mr Boring, Mr Admin, Mr Moderator or something...wheres that Kris spirit we all know. Anyway...off topic, may get another slap from Mr Kris the wannabee moderator.
Anyone want to buy some second hand DVD's? s:o :o s:o
s:cry: :cry: s:cry: time of the month mate, so im a bit stressy and moany (well if women can get away with it, why cant I!) s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Quote from: "krisclarkuk"aint we gone off a bit on 'dream cars' rather than 'if i couldnt have a roadster i would have got.... cos i have the money for that' s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Well, alright then, a DB6. Very VERY similar to a DB5 for about £25-30k.
Unless we are talking new cars... That would be either an Elise or an S2000... Unless I could stretch to a Boxster... I am confused... I think I'll take the DB6...
Quote from: "WoodenDummy"(http://www.wapers.com/vehicles/koenigsegg/koenigsegg1.jpg)
Yes, I've been reading about this for a couple of years now.
Trouble is, this thing is built like an IKEA wardrobe, (apparently) everything fails. And they still haven't managed to reach 400kph.
Quote from: "Emmanuel"Quote from: "WoodenDummy"(http://www.wapers.com/vehicles/koenigsegg/koenigsegg1.jpg)
Yes, I've been reading about this for a couple of years now.
Trouble is, this thing is built like an IKEA wardrobe, (apparently) everything fails. And they still haven't managed to reach 400kph.
Who cars about 400kph when your going round bends so fast your skin is coming off s:D :D s:D
Quote from: "WoodenDummy"Quote from: "cstevens"Quote from: "krisclarkuk"Focus RS, focus RS etc s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
I knew the ST170 was seriously underpowered, but I would have expected more from the RS, I think you should knock it off your list really mate!.
I kicked a RS Forus's ass the other day, really no BS I was off the line and into the first bend before he knew what hit him, he was tryin' as well. He held it in a straght but I was very un impressed. Maybe it was too new.
I would like to say I got a hear of his engine, but my Tannabe was screeming to much s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
Well, I should be able to compare the 2 against the rs tomorrow (ooopps today!!) as i'm off to bedford autodrome for a focus rs trackday!
As for other cars, then check out the top 10 cars thread we had a while back - some tasty numbers in that!! I think I'd quite like a vx220 t as well! just don't tell anyone... s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
Back to the topic...Mk1 MR2 s:) :) s:)
Heh heh....nice one Tem! With you on that. If I ran out of money, but wanted something cheap, fun and reliable, then the Mk1 would be another buy! I LOVED mine.....
Chris wrote:QuoteWell, I should be able to compare the 2 against the rs tomorrow (ooopps today!!) as i'm off to bedford autodrome for a focus rs trackday!
As for other cars, then check out the top 10 cars thread we had a while back - some tasty numbers in that!! I think I'd quite like a vx220 t as well! just don't tell anyone...
Chris, I went to MotordriveLive this year at Millbrooke Proving Ground and got to go in both the VX220Turbo and also a Cat 7 R300. The Cat's were just untouchable around the handling track, so they were out of the equation (STUNNINGLY fast cars!), but the XV220T was NEARLY as quick! The XV held the Cat's on the straight, but lost out a little on the bends, which is to be expected. But, and this is the BIG but, the RS was the ONLY car on the track that actually held up the XV on the track! Not quite as fast on the straight and VERY fast in the corners, the RS really impressed a LOT of people there. I spoke to the guy who was hired by Ford to drive this around the track and he said as and everyday road car, there is little to beat the RS. He thought it was great. But even HE said on the road, its a bit of a squirmer and not for the faint hearted!!! Even though we know the '2 is great around corners and is actually rather quick, from the evidence I could see, I would doubt that the '2 could keep up with and RS on the track. It really was VERY VERY quick indeed. Maybe after what the driver guy said about it on the road, then perhaps we could live with one, but not on track.
Enjoy your track day and be prepared to be astonished at how good the RS really is. I don't like Fords at all, but I would be quite tempted by one of those......... s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
Quote from: "Chris"Well, I should be able to compare the 2 against the rs tomorrow (ooopps today!!) as i'm off to bedford autodrome for a focus rs trackday!
As for other cars, then check out the top 10 cars thread we had a while back - some tasty numbers in that!! I think I'd quite like a vx220 t as well! just don't tell anyone... s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
GGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR s:evil: :evil: s:evil: s:evil: :evil: s:evil: s:evil: :evil: s:evil: s:evil: :evil: s:evil: *kris gets in a huff at Chris, the jammy git for getting to drive an RS*!
might have to pop over to the dealers and pretend i want to buy it just to try it out! s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
QuoteEmmanuel wrote:
A car I have been having wet dreams about since I was a kid, is the Aston Martin, any Aston Martin. There hasn't been a more beautiful car than the DB5 or the Vanquish in modern days...
Yep, if I ever win/make some serious money then one or the other (or both!) will be right near the top of my shopping list!
I know a bloke who owned a DB5 in the 80's, when classic cars rocketted in price. He got an offer for the car and couldn't resist selling it to make a few grand... the following week the purchaser sold it on for double! The guy in question had plenty of money and was hardly renowned for rushing to the bar and getting his wallet out... in fact you were lucky if he ever got to the bar... so he didn't get very much sympathy!!
If you fancy an Aston, there's an Aston Martin advert in the monthly accountancy magazine I get sent because of my job ( a barrel of laughs as you can no doubt imagine s:roll: :roll: s:roll: ). Anyway, you can get a DB7 Coupe s8) 8) s8) , OTR price £98,500, Deposit £27,500, 60 monthly payments of
£961( s:shock: :shock: s:shock: ) followed by option to purchase of around £46,000. Or you can hand the car back, APR 5.75% (that's a shit-hot rate for a balloon paymant car loan). So what are you waiting for - get saving!!. Of course there's the group 20 insurance and 15mpg to consider, not to mention the (i'd imagine) utterly wince-inducing prices of spare parts etc etc. Still it's nice to dream....
Kris!!!!
Seriously, do it!!! A freind onf mine while I was at Uni used to dress up in a suit and drive to the showrooms in his Dad's Laguna V6 and thengo into various different garages and ask for test drives. He used to drive SOOO many different cars all the while and not once bought one! He said the best car he drove for fun was the Original Clio Williams!! Spent 3.5 hours driving around the Moors near Sheffield once on one of those and he was only 22 at the time!!!!
You CAN get away with it. Go and drive an Rs. Pull up in the 2 and I am sure they will think you are serious! What have you got to lose...... s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Agreed, test driving nice cars is a piece of piss, why wouldn't they let you?!?!
I often make trips to various local garages to go on test drives when I've nothing better to do on a weekend. I blagged an S2000 for a long weekend once but the insurance wouldn't cover me (I was 21 at the time)!
--H--
Local garage here i come! s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:D :D s:D s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
Bloody HELL! Hardcore! tell me the details of how you did that! I would LOVE to take an S2000 out for a weekend.....
See, I have never had the bottle to do this kinda thing cos I am shite at saying no when they start to talk about sales and so on. Also, I have never understood how you can get to test drive anything for more than a couple of hours a go.....
Let me into your secrets young man!!! s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
Read an article in the loacal press about 2 or 3 years ago (therefore I dont know if it is true) about a man that managed to blag a ride in a £80k+ Porsche when all he had was a 12 year old Fiesta rust bucket s:!: :!: s:!:
Basically he went into a garage with his Fiesta & borrowed a family sized car (Cavalier or something). Then he took this to the next & got a mid range car (Celica or alike). This continued through about 8 garages until he got the Porsche. He was only found out when he crashed the Porsche in to his own Fiesta outside the original garage s:!: :!: s:!:
s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Now that, if true, takes some balls s:!: :!: s:!:
(all cars have been made up except for the Porsche)
Quote from: "John Woodward"Also, I have never understood how you can get to test drive anything for more than a couple of hours a go.....
Let me into your secrets young man!!! s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
I got an MR2 for a whole weekend before buying it. My local Mr T just offered me their test car to entice me in to buying. s:D :D s:D
Test driving cars IS fun. Just like SilverMSD2 I got the '2 for the weekend before I decided to buy. You just have to persuede people that you're a real buyer, not just trying to blag something. I've had some top test drives. I think my favorite was with Honda. I told them I couldn't decide between the Type R Integra or a Scooby.
So, I got the Type R for 2 hours, and then came back and got a quick blast in the new S2000 in the garage! Sooooo cool.
I still wonder about getting a second hand Integra or S2000. Stunning cars.
Just goi9ng back to the Aston thing - what abou the DB4 GT Zagato - awsome. Also, I'd have to go for a Pagani Zonda rather than the Konisegg, it' simply a much classier act all round. But wait, what about the new "baby" Aston or the Lambo Gallardo... must buy that lottery ticket.
Quote from: "RUSTY"what about the new "baby" Aston
Apparently this one will be "cheap", about the price of a bottom end 911 (that's cheap for an Aston Martin)...
In around the same price range, probably the Elise or VX220.
Hopefully not too far away........
(http://www.tvr.co.uk/MASfiles/tvrimages/tuscans/tusS_ext1.jpg)
Money no option......
In 3rd place
(http://www.21stcentury.co.uk/images/cars/lister_storm.jpg)
In 2nd place
(http://www.paganizonda.com/gallery/c12/exterior/5.jpg)
In 1st place
(http://www.supercars.net/servlets/PW/garagePics/mini%20magic/6car4.jpg)
Instead of the MR2, probably the new Mazda RX-8 or the Nissan 350Z Roadster if it comes to the UK.
If the lottery comes up, the Invicta S1
(http://www.apbw47.dsl.pipex.com/S1.jpg)
Pics of my car in the web link in my sig below.
Saw a 350Z Coupe on the road yesterday. VERY pretty.
I've heard such mixed reviews of the 350Z I'm a bit wary. Some say it's great handling, but slow. Some say it's fast but sounds slow. Some say from the front it just looks too dull. Some say that it's big and heavy. With all the mixed comments, I'm inclined to stay away. When looking at '2 I don't recall reading any bad reviews.
Quote from: "phil4"I've heard such mixed reviews of the 350Z I'm a bit wary. Some say it's great handling, but slow. Some say it's fast but sounds slow. Some say from the front it just looks too dull. Some say that it's big and heavy. With all the mixed comments, I'm inclined to stay away. When looking at '2 I don't recall reading any bad reviews.
Hmmm...
The first batches are imports and the handling is not great. The proper European version has been tuned here in England and it is much better... So much better in fact, that the rest of the world will inherit those modifications. Apparently.
The convertible looks totally gorgeous though.
Quote from: "Emmanuel"The convertible looks totally gorgeous
Now I know why my girlfriend thinks I am a sad git...
Quote from: "Emmanuel"Quote from: "phil4"I've heard such mixed reviews of the 350Z I'm a bit wary. Some say it's great handling, but slow. Some say it's fast but sounds slow. Some say from the front it just looks too dull. Some say that it's big and heavy. With all the mixed comments, I'm inclined to stay away. When looking at '2 I don't recall reading any bad reviews.
Hmmm...
The first batches are imports and the handling is not great. The proper European version has been tuned here in England and it is much better... So much better in fact, that the rest of the world will inherit those modifications. Apparently.
The convertible looks totally gorgeous though.
SOMEONE has been reading EVO s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Yeah, I read that in Evo too. But just 'cause one review says so, doesn't mean that everyone else to try them was wrong.
Quote from: "WoodenDummy"SOMEONE has been reading EVO s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Oh, absolutely s:wink: :wink: s:wink: . The only mag I can trust nowadays and the only editors that make sense. Plus they have the coolest company cars!!!
Still, the convertible does look quite tempting...
You should all try Car magazine. Not just car reviews, but generally good articles about all sorts of driving experiences. I have been subscriber for 15 years now and only ever buy other mags of there is something of interest in it (like Evo last month. I rarely find something that doesn't interest me in Car.
I was quite impressed with Evo though, if a little "performance" orientated.....I like to know about ALL cars, not just ones that are supposed to go fast and look good......(but there is nothing wrong with that!!! s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted: )
A bit OT, but I'm a huge fan of Evo. I figure that I'm only ever going to buy a car every two or three years. In between times the only things I want to read about in a car magazine are cars that I'll probably never be able to afford, or places to drive your car too. Evo does both of those, with a good dose of the best car photography I've ever seen.
Take this month. The GT3, CSL, C-Spec article. It's facinating cos the cars are great, the scenery is beautiful, and writing is interesting. It's as much about the journey and the places as it is abou the cars.
Quote from: "John Woodward"I like to know about ALL cars, not just ones that are supposed to go fast and look good......(but there is nothing wrong with that!!! s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted: )
Fair enough. Personally I don't really need to hear about the new Fiat Panda, or the lastest Corsa Spam Charriot, hence why I get
evo. I
think I've probably had every one since they first started printing a few years ago, in fact I wish I'd kept them now as early issues are going for a price on eBay already!
--H--
Ehy up!!! I'm not slagging Evo, just pointing out the other mags out there, thats all!!! s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol: I actually wuite like Evo and agree with everything that was said about it, but those things can also be aimed at my preferred read, Car. Good articles, good cars, cracking photography (if I recall, both Car and Evo use a lot of the same freelance photographers, so there can't be that much in the photography) and just generally a good read.
Sorry!
I didn't think you were slagging evo!
I used to get Autoexpress now and then but was only interested in half the contents as I'm not interested in reading about family cars, MPVs etc, that's why I only get evo these days.
--H--
s'actly!
Keep passing the open windows :-) :-) :-)
Yep, fair enough. Can see the point.
I suppose I am a bit more of an "anorak" when it comes to cars maybe? s:? :? s:?
I am VERY sad......... s:roll: :roll: s:roll: s:oops: :oops: s:oops: s:? :? s:? s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Quote from: "John Woodward"Enjoy your track day and be prepared to be astonished at how good the RS really is. I don't like Fords at all, but I would be quite tempted by one of those......... s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
Well, just to follow up on this - I did enjoy the day, but only got 10 minutes in the RS (about 4 laps), which I was a little disappointed at, as just as I was getting to grips with it then I had to come in s:( :( s:(
I then went out with the instructor for 3 laps and found out what it could really do - boy did he chuck that thing into the corners!! seemed rather understeery though...
It was quick in a straight line, but i wasn't blown away by it. The cornering was pretty fantastic, but obviously different to the way it felt in my 2 - same track different car, I didn't feel that much faster in the rs, although timing was not allowed so i couldn't tell for sure..
Overall, I think I'd still get one, but probably only if it was cheap enough, perhaps 2nd hand? not worth 22k new or whatever they are... much rather have an elise 135 s:D :D s:D or possibly vx turbo
Quote from: "Chris"Well, just to follow up on this - I did enjoy the day, but only got 10 minutes in the RS (about 4 laps), which I was a little disappointed at, as just as I was getting to grips with it then I had to come in s:( :( s:(
I then went out with the instructor for 3 laps and found out what it could really do - boy did he chuck that thing into the corners!! seemed rather understeery though...
It was quick in a straight line, but i wasn't blown away by it. The cornering was pretty fantastic, but obviously different to the way it felt in my 2 - same track different car, I didn't feel that much faster in the rs, although timing was not allowed so i couldn't tell for sure..
Overall, I think I'd still get one, but probably only if it was cheap enough, perhaps 2nd hand? not worth 22k new or whatever they are... much rather have an elise 135 s:D :D s:D or possibly vx turbo
Lucky Git! s:x :x s:x s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
Chris wrote:QuoteWell, just to follow up on this - I did enjoy the day, but only got 10 minutes in the RS (about 4 laps), which I was a little disappointed at, as just as I was getting to grips with it then I had to come in
I then went out with the instructor for 3 laps and found out what it could really do - boy did he chuck that thing into the corners!! seemed rather understeery though...
It was quick in a straight line, but i wasn't blown away by it. The cornering was pretty fantastic, but obviously different to the way it felt in my 2 - same track different car, I didn't feel that much faster in the rs, although timing was not allowed so i couldn't tell for sure..
Overall, I think I'd still get one, but probably only if it was cheap enough, perhaps 2nd hand? not worth 22k new or whatever they are... much rather have an elise 135 or possibly vx turbo
Chris, you have said pretty much what the guy at the Ford stand at Millbrooke said earlier this year. Its a great car, but can scare you witless on the road and is much better on track. BUT, and this is a BIG but, it really is a compromise on road manners and all out track ability. At the end of the day, its still a tall family hatch and what you have said about it sums the car up nicely. A little understeery (which is the safe option. The family thing again), didn't feel as quick as you thought (trust me, they ARE quick, but again, you have the comforts of the fmaily car again) and not as pointy in the corners (back the the family basis again). Very fast car in the right hands and for 99% of people looking to get a fast, good handling car, then its the dogs. For people who know what they are doing (not saying you don't!), then its a little dissapointing and its a shame. Better off sticking with the 2 for driving thrills to be honest, or of not, then go for one of your other choices. I have tried both and can't split them, but for sheer grunt, I don't think you can beat the VX220T!!!! Elise is VERY good though!
If you get one, can I have a go? s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Quote from: "John Woodward"Very fast car in the right hands .... For people who know what they are doing (not saying you don't!), then its a little dissapointing and its a shame.
Definately - the instructor bloke knew how to handle it and threw it into the corners and knew how to control the slides! He did say that it felt a bit detached though - not as alive/communicative as the clio's he had driven on the previous weeks renault day
I think that's the crux of the matter - most people don't know how to get the best from these type of cars and so think they are wonderful as they never exceed the cars capabilities, but pro/experianced drivers can push the car to uncover it's weaknesses...
QuoteBetter off sticking with the 2 for driving thrills to be honest, or of not, then go for one of your other choices. I have tried both and can't split them, but for sheer grunt, I don't think you can beat the VX220T!!!! Elise is VERY good though!
Exactly my thoughts the '2 will be with me for a while yet, especially while i'm still learning track skills - i heard a wise track bod say once 'learn the limits of your current car before getting something faster!'
QuoteIf you get one, can I have a go? s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Yep, and vice versa, if you beat me to it!! s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Chris wrote:Quotethink that's the crux of the matter - most people don't know how to get the best from these type of cars and so think they are wonderful as they never exceed the cars capabilities, but pro/experianced drivers can push the car to uncover it's weaknesses...
Absolutely. That is why there is a good argument to say that some of the faster cars on the road today are actually the safer ones as they have actually been designed to stop, go and corner at much higher limits than other cars and on 99.5% of the time, any normal Joe like you or I would NEVER exceed those limits and if you do, then you only have yourself to blame. Clarkson said that the safest car on the road was also one of th fastest, the Porsche 911 Turbo. Why, cos it has the most amazing brakes on any road car. I can see his point......
QuoteExactly my thoughts the '2 will be with me for a while yet, especially while i'm still learning track skills - i heard a wise track bod say once 'learn the limits of your current car before getting something faster!'
Couldn't agree more. Stick with it and it will reward you. This side of the Elise, there is little better......
QuoteYep, and vice versa, if you beat me to it!!
Right, you're on!!!! s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol: [/b]
Quote from: "Chris"seemed rather understeery though...
FWD, TADTS.
FWIW, one of the only FWD cars that I've ever driven around a circuit and enjoyed was the 205 Gti. It's goon-tastic but in the end it's still FWD and there is only so much you can do with them. I know if it was mine I'd get bored of it quite quickly. However on the road it was an absolute scream, so much fun it was indecent. I haven't driven a modern FWD car that can come close to the communication through the wheel and chassis. Amazing little car.
Edited to add: Not entirely true it's the only one I enjoyed. Citroen Xantia diesel on sheet ice at Elvington was absolutely hilarious.
Quote from: "Hardcore"I didn't think you were slagging evo!
That's my job! (mention evoness just once and I'll be dispatching war rocket Ajax to recover your body...).
*casts mind back to Performance Car, the last great car mag* s:( :( s:(
The best thing out there at the moment is Circuit Driver (if that's your thang). Covers sports/track/race cars, driving technique, car setup, etc, etc. Could do with being a little thicker but then it is largely devoid of crap and padding.
Quote from: "juansolo"Quote from: "Chris"seemed rather understeery though...
FWD, TADTS.
front wheel drive i got, but tadts? s:? :? s:?
They All Do That Sir.... ?
And while we're on it... here's some TADTS for the VX220:
- Windscreen Wiper fall on the bonnet when you lift it, scraping away paint.
- Leaky soft top, the modified VX-Turbo roofseal can be retro-fitted to VERY leaky roofs)
- Rattles and creaks - the VX is a firmly suspended car with little soundproofing. Potholes sound like someone is hitting the undertray with a sledghammer, and whirrs, creaks and the odd rattle are quite normal
No, the passenger seat isn't supposed to be adjustable !
- Doors can get rattly over bumps - easily remedied by adjusting the door pins to get better tension.
- The heater isn't as hot as some.
- The cabin air intake has no filter and throws dust, gravel and wildlife liberally over the cabin when the fan's on.
Courtesy of http://www.vx220.org.uk/.
See it's not just the '2 that has a few "problems" s:) :) s:)
juansolo wrote:QuoteFWIW, one of the only FWD cars that I've ever driven around a circuit and enjoyed was the 205 Gti. It's goon-tastic but in the end it's still FWD and there is only so much you can do with them. I know if it was mine I'd get bored of it quite quickly. However on the road it was an absolute scream, so much fun it was indecent. I haven't driven a modern FWD car that can come close to the communication through the wheel and chassis. Amazing little car.
I on;y drove the standard 205, so never got the "thrill" of chucking one of the supposed best FWD cars ever made, but I HAVE driven a 106GTI and a 106 Rallye and I kid you not, I was STUNNED by the ability of the Rallye. Incredible little car. I only had the keys to it for about 20mins, but JEEZ, what a little car! Back to the old "high power, no weight" thing again cos the feedback and the stopping a going in this thing was pretty close to as much fun as you can have in a car without having to go at silly speeds to achieve it. I loved it and would probably considerone now if they still made them. Shame they fall apart and the white, steel press wheels go rusty 48 hours after purchase!!! s:shock: :shock: s:shock: s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
phil4 wrote:Quote- Windscreen Wiper fall on the bonnet when you lift it, scraping away paint.
- Leaky soft top, the modified VX-Turbo roofseal can be retro-fitted to VERY leaky roofs)
- Rattles and creaks - the VX is a firmly suspended car with little soundproofing. Potholes sound like someone is hitting the undertray with a sledghammer, and whirrs, creaks and the odd rattle are quite normal
No, the passenger seat isn't supposed to be adjustable !
- Doors can get rattly over bumps - easily remedied by adjusting the door pins to get better tension.
- The heater isn't as hot as some.
- The cabin air intake has no filter and throws dust, gravel and wildlife liberally over the cabin when the fan's on.
Yeah, but Phil, of we can put up with some of the crap that the '2 throws at us, for the sheer driving thrill, I could put up with ALL of the above!!! s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Quote from: "John Woodward"Yeah, but Phil, of we can put up with some of the crap that the '2 throws at us, for the sheer driving thrill, I could put up with ALL of the above!!! s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Cool s:) :) s:) Would just hate people to get the impression that we're the only ones with problems. Especially as if someone interested in a '2 comes here, and reads through the maintenance section, pretty much all they get is problem after problem after problem s:) :) s:)
Quote from: "phil4"They All Do That Sir.... ?
:thumbup:
There is always the classic route, perhaps a Lotus Elan, quick and full of cheap ford parts. Only problem is they tend to breakdown.
Quote from: "colindanks"Only problem is they tend to breakdown.
Isn't that a TADTS for (old?) Lotus's (Loti? s:wink: :wink: s:wink: ) s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Miatahhhh.....