Southern Belle

Started by Petrus, December 19, 2018, 19:35

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househead

Interior looks very Elise-esque without the carpets!
2004 Sable Red Edition, TTE Twin Exhaust, Toyosports Manifold

Petrus

Quote from: househead on August  9, 2019, 22:44Interior looks very Elise-esque without the carpets!

Hovering just under 900 kilos it ís very much like a pre 2zz Series 2 but then more roomy, more comfortable and ofcourse.... the proper soft top!

Petrus

#402
 :o  :o  the pound dropped another cent! Worth waiting a few days buying stuff in the uk. Had éxcellent dinner last night; spent 36€ for three, drinks included. That is... wait for it ... one week on the total I want to spend.
A bit long though, a week.
Buying now however, will not see it posted till Monday at the earliest. So better buy Monday and save 15€,  which buys the whole week breakfast on the town square. Nice compromise ;-)

Petrus

#403
That´s one under way; the decat midpipe; should be handful of kilos less and horses (and decibels) more:



Petrus

Oh my.... :-*

The buckets are a bit tight.
Worse still is that I decided to fit the female belt buckle to the rear mounting bolt not leaving much belt to breath  ::)
A great imputus to crack on with my cycling and loose some more weight. Though not fát, at 6 feet 2 the ´cycling fit´ weight is startlingly less than my current weight so plenty of room for improvement giving room in the car  ;D  :))
It also means that my cycling outfits will get to be largish and I lóve loose fit.
Win-win-win ánd a fat WIN for the upcoming hip replacement.
So; another ibu and  cycling I go  8)

Ardent

That is a neat pipe

Petrus

Quote from: Ardent on August 13, 2019, 13:11That is a neat pipe

Looks like it. Fingers crossed it´s like that in the real. Was rather cheap; 99 quid.

Anyway, seems I´m getting Belle trimmed down to under 900 kilos and I am doing my bit too :-)

There´s all that talk about horse power and I actually know a LÓT about horses, horse riding and teaching them.
So let´s go there:

Here is a 2 hp horse:




Here is a 0.8 hp horse:




The former is about three times a strong as the latter.
Which one would you take for a spirited cross country ride? Which one would you expect to do 30 kms. brisk cross country quicker?




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1979scotte

Much prefer heavy horse tbh
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Petrus

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Quote from: 1979scotte on August 13, 2019, 15:30Much prefer heavy horse tbh

I´ll see you half way on the way back then :-)


Point is horses for courses.
The definition of sports car revolves around the elements spirited driving, nimble handling.
The second aspect is the real world roads and not meaning highways.

1979scotte

Quote from: Petrus on August 13, 2019, 15:34
Quote from: 1979scotte on August 13, 2019, 15:30Much prefer heavy horse tbh

I´ll see you half way on the way back then :-)

Not if we were pulling our 2s behind us yours would have barely moved.

How much torque does a horse make? 😅
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Petrus

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Quote from: 1979scotte on August 13, 2019, 15:45How much torque does a horse make? 😅

Mán, a LOT.
All the hp is pulling power at no revs.
When you have two equalising the torque it is mind bogling what they can pull (actually, they púsh but that is beside the point).
One draft horse can pull say 4000 kilo. Two pull not two but three times as much = 12000.

The definition of horsepower created by James Watt was based on the continuous, sustained power output of a draft horse.  He measured how much water could be raised in a minute, at a normal walking pace, which ended up as 33,000 ft-lbs/min.  Or 550 ft-lbs/s.  That is 1HP.  However, the peak power output of a horse (at a sprint) is about 15-20HP.
Torque is N.m so go figure a 10000 N horse with 1.5 meter legs applying muscle to thát.

Anyway, horses for courses and if you want to pull tree stumps, why buy an hispano-arabe or tres sangres which is what the MR2 Roadster is.
The way I see the MR Spyder as a slighly over fed hispano-arabe; a nimble agile horse yet more comfie and stable, less nervous than an arabe. I am trimming the excess fat but it will remain the easier more docile ride, will never change into the more high strung, trickier arabe.
It is also why I appreciate the easy going nature of the 1ZZ.

Petrus


Topdownman

Got any plans for the door panels? A fair bit of weight in there I reckon.

I weighed just the door handles which were 650 gms a pair.

Is it the GT3 that just has bits of nylon webbing instead?
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Petrus

Looked at the doors. Although they are heavy, there is imo nothing to be gained there which does not come with outweighing downsides.

For the moment putting nothing extra on the list.
The decat pipe is underway as are three bits Carolyn sourced for me at Rutlands.
The fuel cap is a nice to have with no priority and the headrest streamline is most definitely for the next budget round  :-[

Also getting my own weight from top of BMI green range to low end is the higher priority.
Missed out this year on the Xtreme MTB Challenge and have to give the ascend of La Veleta (on the pedals to the last of the 3.360 metres) a miss too because of the hip but I want to be in top form at climbing weight next year.


Ardent

All I know, I'm built more like horse 1 than 2.

Petrus


Petrus

Néarly done.

Need to give them a cm. more room to slide back and put together the OEM driver´s seat.

As observed not the most comfortable seating, but they do give way better support which is more comfortable driving.
The extra support and the lack of padding gives an extra dimension of feel.

Petrus

Decat pipe is in.
Have the bridge Monday.
Véry much looking forward to it: It should lighten up the car, brighten up the engine and pump up the volume of the sound track ;D

It has become a bit of an art, well contorsionist act really, to get my bum into/ out of the buckets. Phew. About as much more complicate as it improves the ride so worth it but... mán I feel old  :-[

Petrus

Quote from: mr2noob on August 23, 2019, 20:14I remember watching a video where some young guy interviews the driver/modder Orido who said he intentionally shifted the weight towards the back among other things.

Well, I doubt that; he put the fuel tank on the front axle...
More likely that the balance shifted as a result of weight shedding and he only partly corrected that with fuel cell move.

Petrus





Way lighter,
way less hot,
way louder,
way quicker.

The latter mostly between 3 and 5K revs. Véry noticable.
With the intake as free as it gets, with decat manifold and a straight through no-damper, the cat was the restriction keeping a small herd of horses reigned in.

Nvy

Quote from: Petrus on August 27, 2019, 12:19



Way lighter,
way less hot,
way louder,
way quicker.

The latter mostly between 3 and 5K revs. Véry noticable.
With the intake as free as it gets, with decat manifold and a straight through no-damper, the cat was the restriction keeping a small herd of horses reigned in.

I have fitted the stock exhaust and it sounds like a limo. Previously I had TTE and I can only imagine how loud is yours at the moment. If you have drone just wrap the pipe and it will make it a bit better. At least thats what I read on google and I fitted mine wrapped.

Petrus

Quote from: Nvy on August 27, 2019, 12:53If you have drone just wrap the pipe and it will make it a bit better. At least thats what I read on google and I fitted mine wrapped.

The only drone I ´worry´ about is from traffic control. No legal base whatsover but the State is sending out fines nonetheless.

The exhaust note starts as a grumble, then after a rasp goes barking mad into a LOÚD scream.
When going trough the narrow, built up passages of the villages, I need to short shift, feathering the loud pedal to avoid any pace makers to flutter or hearing aids to pop.

Recording it is on the short list for this week early one morning.

Nvy

Quote from: Petrus on August 28, 2019, 07:56
Quote from: Nvy on August 27, 2019, 12:53If you have drone just wrap the pipe and it will make it a bit better. At least thats what I read on google and I fitted mine wrapped.

The only drone I ´worry´ about is from traffic control. No legal base whatsover but the State is sending out fines nonetheless.

The exhaust note starts as a grumble, then after a rasp goes barking mad into a LOÚD scream.
When going trough the narrow, built up passages of the villages, I need to short shift, feathering the loud pedal to avoid any pace makers to flutter or hearing aids to pop.

Recording it is on the short list for this week early one morning.


My TTE was the same, until 2k rpms was okaish but when you step on it and shift after 6k rpms it was screaming. Now I see myself shifting quite late in traffic because Im used to shifting on engine noise and the OEM is rly quiet. What I like about it is that I can hear my passenger w/o the need of shouting :D

Ardent

Caveat.
Grape juice has been taken on board prior to this post.

A well sealed tte should sing rather than scream.

In day to day daily use it should not dominate proceedings. There, but not there  much like well applied make up.

Petrus

Quote from: Ardent on August 28, 2019, 23:42Caveat.
Grape juice has been taken on board prior to this post.

A well sealed tte should sing rather than scream.

In day to day daily use it should not dominate proceedings. There, but not there  much like well applied make up.

The TTE passes periodic inspection without the slightest frown abot the sound. My set up, well... the sound system is superfluous now.
The plan is to record a sound track early Friday morning.

Just back from the coast btw.; new star in the picture...

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