Any second hand Turbo setups available for sale around Sept?

[Anonymous]

Hi folks,

I need/want more power!!!  s:( s:(  

The 2's great but needs more power.

Around September 2007 i will be in a better finacial position so i will be looking to purchase a Turbo set-up.

Anyone thinking of selling one around that time???

Secondly i'm told the best value for money set-up is the "C2" as it includes intercooler and ECU. Is that right? Any Idea on typical BHP??

Prob get corrected again for something on this thread  s:? :? s:?  

Cheers

Jamie

[markiii]

best bet is start the conversation from scratch

how much power do you think you need?
Is power or response more imprtant to you?
Are you a warranty or a hands on tinkerer type?
budget?


then we can start from there

[Anonymous]

Hi Mark. Thanks for replying.

No warranty to worry about.

Not absolutley sure on the power, around the 250 BHP mark, although i appreciate this may well not be needed due to power/weight ratio?

I am reasonable with the spanners, and would enjoy taking part, but i'm not as good as some,going by some of the threads i've read on turbo instalation!  s:shock: :shock: s:shock:  

Would like better response and power, turbo lag used to irrate me on the Impreza's,but anti lag was not an option.

Available finances, Without wishing to be screamed at on this site,If i could get hold of one, is around £2500 unrealistic for a fitted secondhand turbo setup?

[markiii]

budget is possible, but it depends really on what is included in the 2nd hand kit, and what you may choose to add.

I'm fitting one for a member (I'll let him shout if he wants to) in teh next couple of months and the basic kit and fitting was looking at £2200, I reckon he's spent another £500 on the little bits though that make life easier, the stuff we have learnt the hardway can be improved on from teh factory.

so just to clarify, by warranty I was talking about the kit. TTE is great because if there is an issue you always have backup covered in teh price.

however thats is £1500 over your budget

everything else going to require some basic fettling on your part, obviously we are all here to provide help, but please don't make teh mistake of thiking that any of teh other options is fit and forget.

both Ekona and Tommy_D started from those expectations and both have since got rid.

PE won't make 250bhp, but still may well be fast enough, Hass or C2 will but at teh expense of a little more lag.

next job I think is to get you out in both and see which suits you better.

[Tem]

Make sure you browse SC too, there seems to be a turbokit for sale every now and then.  s8) s8)

[Anonymous]

Cheers Mark, It's a possibility then!   s:D s:D  

What would the Hass or C2 kit produce in terms of BHP?

How do i go about a test/passenger drive?

I did a search on Autotrader to try and find a Garage with a Turbo'd MR2 to test drive but came up with nothing.

Any Turbo 2's near the Stratford On Avon area want to "take me out"   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:     s:D s:D

[Tem]

Here's few of the latest to give you an idea of pricing:
 m http://www.spyderchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=42093 m

 m http://www.spyderchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=40481 m

[spit]

Best bet for a chance to discuss and experience the options is to come along to a drive-out. Plenty to choose from in the Events forum.  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  

I've always thought that the power figure is a little moot in comparison to the torque curve for your daily driving, but Hass and C2 will reach the numbers you're looking at with a bit of boost control to 10psi and the 1-zz can routinely handle 12psi. Hass seems to have a higher peak torque.

But i didn't pop in to say any of this ... I wanted to add that going FI to these levels will show up some issues in chassis/suspension and handling that you really should consider budgetting for aswell. Oh, and insurance of course!

[markiii]

Cheers Mark, It's a possibility then!   s:D s:D  

What would the Hass or C2 kit produce in terms of BHP?

How do i go about a test/passenger drive?

I did a search on Autotrader to try and find a Garage with a Turbo'd MR2 to test drive but came up with nothing.

Any Turbo 2's near the Stratford On Avon area want to "take me out"   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:     s:D s:D

highest I know of in teh Uk is Philsters C2 and My Hass with 274bhp and 267bhp respectively

I'm sure 300bhp is acheivable with enough boost, but trust me there isn't a road useable enough to need that.

250bhp is plenty with this amount of weight.

There will be a Hass, a C2, and a PE at this weekend Essex meet, so if you fancy a good run out, that might be your perfect chance to blag a few rides

[Anonymous]

Cheers Tem!

I've tried to register on Spyderchat but can't for some reason??

Cheers

Jamie

[Anonymous]

everything else going to require some basic fettling on your part, obviously we are all here to provide help, but please don't make the mistake of thiking that any of the other options is fit and forget.

both Ekona and Tommy_D started from those expectations and both have since got rid.

That's more important than anything else. You can always find more money, you can always get more power, but if you're not prepared to have to check and play with things every weekend then forget it. I spent a good few thousand pound more than I'd like to admit to get mine all sorted, and even then I still wasn't happy with it. I had expectations of a turbo'd MR2 that were just stupidly unrealistic, and in the end it ruined the car for me and I got rid of it.

Please don't make the same mistake I did. The power is great, but if you're not happy with fiddling and checking things all the time then just save up and go for the TTE kit. If I had I'd still have a '2 now.



Sorry if that comes across as a bit preachy, for all I know you could be the kind of person that loves doing stuff like this, but it's such an important part of owning an mk3 tubby that I really feel it's worth taking note of.

[Tem]

I've tried to register on Spyderchat but can't for some reason??

What does it do then? Or doesn't do? I can ask the admin(s), if you describe it more.  s8) s8)

[Tem]

Sorry if that comes across as a bit preachy, for all I know you could be the kind of person that loves doing stuff like this, but it's such an important part of owning an mk3 tubby that I really feel it's worth taking note of.

It's a good and valid point, especially if one wishes to target some 250hp.  s8) s8)

[Anonymous]

Thanks folks i'll have a look at the events link.

Good point Spit forgot about the handling side of things. Will prob have lowering TTE springs by September anyhow, but would i need extra bracing or brake upgrade? Trying to keep the cost down but don't want it to be a jelly on wheels with a turbo   s:? :? s:?

[SteveJ]

Any Turbo 2's near the Stratford On Avon area want to "take me out"   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:     s:D s:D

You have PM

[spit]

You don't need these things as such, but you'll probably want them!

I'd say, on a facelift, your priorities will be a good set of boots and some beefed up chassis bracing. Brakes are good on the stock '2, but only if they're working well! Thats something you'll have to decide on.

Oh, and we've all forgotten about the uprated clutch that you'll need to budget for!

[Tem]

Oh, and we've all forgotten about the uprated clutch that you'll need to budget for!

If he ends up with the PE kit, I think he can live with the stock clutch too...(?)

[markiii]

put it this way, I drove spits last year with no bracing adn tired suspension, and coming from mine it felt very scary

since your si an 04 an will have TTE springs and non tired shock, you should be ok

not that it can't improved.

[Anonymous]

Any Turbo 2's near the Stratford On Avon area want to "take me out"   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:     s:D s:D

You have PM

Stevej has kindly offered to take me out tonight in his 2 to get an idea of what is needed and how the car performs.

Cheers

Jamie.

[Wabbitkilla]

Personally for me i'd at least go for;
Breast plate or equivalent from Corky
TTE or Tein springs
Braided brake lines and dot5.1 brake fluid
Exedy organic clutch (an absolute must with a turbo)
Kirks engine mounts (another absolute must with a turbo)

Oh - wait a minute, that IS exactly what i have already done  s:oops: :oops: s:oops:  

It all adds to the price and i seem to remember one of our US friends saying recently is that it's not a cheap option fitting a turbo!

[Anonymous]

Cheers Enkona and Tem, some good points, Have to admit i gave up the Impreza game due to having to make to much of a committment to the maintenance side of things. Prob more to do with the continual expenditure than the time to be fair.

Rather pay and play if there is such a solution.

Bear with me Tem, i did email admin at Spyderchat but never got a reply. I'll try and log in again and let you know what it says...

[Anonymous]

....Will probably have lowering TTE springs by September anyhow....

To be honest I much prefer the ride and handling on a standard car. I can't wait to bin my TTE springs - reminds me of a cheap GMax setup I used to have years back. Wonder if the dampers should be changed   s:? :? s:?

[markiii]

unless we have very different tastes I suspect your shocks are fubared

[Anonymous]

....Will probably have lowering TTE springs by September anyhow....

To be honest I much prefer the ride and handling on a standard car. I can't wait to bin my TTE springs - reminds me of a cheap GMax setup I used to have years back. Wonder if the dampers should be changed   s:? :? s:?

How old are your TTE springs?

Are they for sale, presuming they are any good?

  s:D s:D

[aaronjb]

Here's a spreadsheet I made up a little while ago - might make you think about the odd extra bit you'll need, and it also highlights the cost difference between going all-out and going for a kit:

 m http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key= ... d1T2KXdPTg m