Front brake discs

Started by smarty72, October 4, 2011, 12:07

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smarty72

My car passed it's MOT the other week with an advisory for the front discs.   s:( :( s:(    Can anyone recommend what to go for?  

I'm just after something that's good value and works well.  I don't tend to work the brakes very hard so I don't need them to be ultra efficient or suitable for racing or anything like that...!
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Mike_V

#1
The OEM discs are fine for what you need, not expensive either.
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smarty72

#2
Thanks Mike,

You always get such a quick response on this site...!

Will pattern parts be ok or should I go to MR T.
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dcod

#3
Quote from: "Mike_V"The OEM discs are fine for what you need, not expensive either.

My sentiments exactly. Call a Toyota dealer and get a quote.

CTP do them for £100 including pads.

 m http://www.cheaptoyotaparts.co.uk/index ... &Itemid=71 m
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smarty72

#4
Great. Thanks for the link too!
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dcod

#5
No problem. Don't know where I got the letters CPS from though   s:? :? s:?   It's CTP   s:) :) s:)
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nathanMR2

#6
MOD - amended for you   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  
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dcod

#7
Quote from: "nathanMR2"MOD - amended for you   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  

Thanks dude.   s:D :D s:D
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I bought a "Lean Mean Fat Reducing Grilling Machine" to lose weight. I put on five stone. I blame the delicious gravy it makes.

2003bluecat

#8
Camskill do some even cheaper  m http://www.camskill.co.uk/m5b0s2408p501 ... ZW30_1_8I_ m

iPap

#9
If you were in the South East of England, I had a brand new set of disc that I don't need.
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Capvermell

#10
Quote from: "2003bluecat"Camskill do some even cheaper  m http://www.camskill.co.uk/m5b0s2408p501 ... ZW30_1_8I_ m

Apologies for reactivating a year old thread but I think the issues remain the same for pad and disc replacement on the MR2 Roadster including Camskill as a possible supplier of non OEM but hopefully good quality brake discs and pads.

Basically the situation is that my MOT is due shortly and I had an advisory last year that the front discs were corroded and near the limit even though ATS Euromaster had put some new pads (their own choice and spec) on in the summer of 2011 (when the others wore through) and said the discs were ok for a while longer.   However as it happens currently it is my rear discs that seem to have a problem as some kind of scouring sound has started up in the last couple of days when I brake even though I had some cheap third party pads fitted by a garage last year (7,000 miles ago) when the rear tyres were also changed.  So I fear I need new pads and discs all round as cheap pads with old pitted discs don't seem to last long (although the car is still stopping perfectly well at the moment).

Since this is a big number parts and labour wise at Mr T I am interested in the Camskill brake disc and pad parts if anyone has any experience of them and can vouch that they are basically as good as the Toyota OEM stuff or no significant difference.

Also can anyone recommend any garages Surrey, West Sussex, Kent, Hampshire, Berks or Bucks or the southern half of Greater London that they would trust to do brake disc and pad replacement and other servicing type work (eg brake fluid replacement) on an MR2 Roadster both competently and at a reasonable price?  I never seem to see any recommendations for garages for working on our little sports car in this part of the word.  Most of the recommendations seem to be for places north of Milton Keynes.

dj2k21

#11
Hi mate is those something you could not yourself? It's pretty straight forward or isbit a case of you want some kind of paperwork to say it's been done? I found the pagid discs and pads were pretty good that most motor factors sell. I currently have ebc discs on the rear with ebc green stuff pads but I don't really rate them.

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Capvermell

#12
Quote from: "dj2k21"Hi mate is those something you could not yourself? It's pretty straight forward or isbit a case of you want some kind of paperwork to say it's been done? I found the pagid discs and pads were pretty good that most motor factors sell. I currently have ebc discs on the rear with ebc green stuff pads but I don't really rate them.

I think its only actually easy to do if you are used to doing this kind of mechanical work.  You obviously have to not mind getting pretty dirty, cutting your hands etc, etc. and potentially risking your life and limb if you mess it all up.

Its not like I wouldn't do anything that is simple to do and where Mr T would rip you off.  I have changed my own battery (Mr T was by far the cheapest for the part only at £42 compared to Halfords etc - mainly because Mr T charges you 25 minutes labour if you get them to fit the battery) and replaced my top two oxygen sensors (with OEM equivalents from  w www.sparkplugs.co.uk w ) that are now working fine - both within the last year.

I draw the line at changing brake discs and pads as its messy and quite difficult (I also wouldn't actually know what to do whereas this was obvious with the oxygen sensors) and also my safety is at risk if it goes wrong.  So perhaps I could get some advice here on where I could go to get it done without being ripped off if we assume that I can't do it myself.

After all if we all assumed we could all do every mechanical job here ourselves then all we would need would be a workshop manual and thread discussing where to buy parts and took kits at the most reasonable prices.

dj2k21

#13
Yeah totally understand where your coming from. If you have not done it before I guess it could appear daunting. It's really not though buddy and as far as I can see you couldn't put standard discs on wrong as they just bolt on. Aftermarket ones with grooves cut in I guess you could put them on backwards but the brakes would still work. As for pads I guess you would have the danger of a pad slipping out of the carrier but I've not heard of it happening I don't think. I guess the fluid change is the most likely to cause brake failure if you have air trapped but the method I use is to drain the fluid as your putting new fluid in. That way when you see new looking fluid coming out the caliper you know it's flushed right through. If you empty it fully then you will pull air through and have to bleed them again. You end up wasting a little fluid with my method but it's cheap and it saves a huge faff on. But no I do agree that if you do not know what your doing it's best to go to a garage. Aside from kwik fit though because would you rather a 16 year old apprentice change your brakes or do it yourself lol.

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onion86

#14
Just for reference in case you have a look and decide it is something that you wish to tackle yourself:
Front -  l viewtopic.php?f=47&t=11550 l
Rear -  l viewtopic.php?f=47&t=17198 l

The fronts are easily doable without much fuss, the rears do require a piston rewind tool (£20-30) and you'll need a brake bleeder (£10-20) if you're changing the fluid. I've done it twice on two different cars myself, did have a bit of faff the first time round due to painted discs sticking to pads when hot but the brakes were better than they had ever been!

I can't help with a location in your area but in terms of not getting ripped off, you're looking at £80-100 labour to change the discs/pads all round and it's £39 from Mr T for a brake fluid change. As above with tools (assuming you already have spanners, etc. required) it's going to cost you ~£50 for bits to do it yourself + your time so it's still quite expensive even if you do DIY it if you're only planning to do it once.

I'm also using Pagid discs, on my old '2 I used mtec ones. Both cost about £130 and OEM pads will do the job and can be got for ~£32.99 from CTP on here, not sure if that is cheaper/more than Camskill but just FYI.
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Markb

#15
Set of new "genuine" fronts on ebay if anyone fancies them...£65
 m http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOYOTA-MR2-RO ... 2a26228c8c m

Capvermell

#16
Surely there must be some other people in this forum who mainly just like driving the car and who don't want to become home mechanics.

Given the salary levels in the area I can't believe everyone living within 50 miles of London does their own maintenance on this vehicle.

dj2k21

#17
It's one of the beauties of owning a sports car is to get your hands dirty once in a while. Does it not interest you to do anything but drive the car?

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#18
Quote from: "Markb"Set of new "genuine" fronts on ebay if anyone fancies them...£65
 m http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOYOTA-MR2-RO ... 2a26228c8c m

Yep those are mine.

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#19
Quote from: "Capvermell"Surely there must be some other people in this forum who mainly just like driving the car and who don't want to become home mechanics.

Given the salary levels in the area I can't believe everyone living within 50 miles of London does their own maintenance on this vehicle.


I don't trust garages  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  i like to do what i can myself or at least have a go.......when you see what goes on in some garages (main dealers included) you might change your mind  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

dj2k21

#20
Toyota caused loads of damage to my mr2 which is the only and only time I took it there. Left my oil cap off. Left my rear nappy loose. I left the car at the side of the carriage way on a fit of rage with the keys in the ignition  and made them collect it

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Capvermell

#21
So there are no decent garages who do good work at all anywhere????

dj2k21

#22
There are loads all over bit it seems unfortunately nobody close to you has any they can recommend. At some point the garages we all use had to be tested for the first time by one of us so why don't you book into one and if they are good we have another for the list? To be fair the work you want doing is absolute child's play for any garage so in no way do you need any kind of sports car or mr2 specialist. Aside from a service it's probably the most basic thing a garage does. Just take a punt on somewhere mate nobody can be better than anyone else at doing brakes really.

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onion86

#23
Quote from: "dj2k21"To be fair the work you want doing is absolute child's play for any garage so in no way do you need any kind of sports car or mr2 specialist. Aside from a service it's probably the most basic thing a garage does. Just take a punt on somewhere mate nobody can be better than anyone else at doing brakes really.
I did write the same thing in my post but edited it out as I'd already waffled on for too long. Any garage can change brakes and should charge less than 2 hours labour for the privilege, you don't need to find an MR2 specialist for something so trivial.
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tomaky

#24
Best thing to advise is spend a hour on them on your own it really is a simple job.
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