Flip Keys!

mr2andy · February 15, 2012, 21:14

Hi Guys,Ive found this on ebay,i was wondering if this would work it says it has a toyota blank,i think ive done the link correctly i hope anyway s:? :? s:?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250988140181?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1054

Cheers Andy

onion86 · February 15, 2012, 21:21

Looks like that's a TOY43 blade which won't fit the MR2 unfortunately, I believe it's TOY41 you require

Treboeth · February 15, 2012, 21:25

It`s a Toy43 I contacted the seller last week and he should be letting me know if he can supply the Toy41 blanks.

Anonymous · February 15, 2012, 21:33

Is ther much difference? The cross section looks right.

onion86 · February 15, 2012, 21:46

I thought the same thing a couple of years ago... Here's one I made earlier, quite different, a lot thinner and don't even fit in the barrel s:)

s:)

Anonymous · February 15, 2012, 21:52

Thanks Stu.

StuC · February 16, 2012, 07:59

As an aside I have bought one of these and I am seeing what it takes to modify the case and an original key (as my plastic fob broke) to get the 2 to work together.
I'll post some results soon :-) :-) :-)

Anonymous · February 16, 2012, 15:59

I understand that the blade we need is a bit wider, and wont go in the flip case.

*andy* · February 16, 2012, 18:45

They don't exist, I even contacted a few manufacturers in China through Alibaba who said they get requests for them but in not enough quantity to make!

I actually made my own from the Toy43 flip shell and a standard MR2 key. It requires some dremelling and then you need to find a way of fixing the two bits of metal together (I used super glue - lasted a while but is no longer in one piece!) I was going to find a more permanent solution but never found time.

If anyone is handy and wants to have a go I still have some spare Toy43 flip keys (Think I have about 5)

Anonymous · February 16, 2012, 18:50

How much do you want for a couple, Andy?

iPap · February 16, 2012, 18:52

I'd be interested in one!

Anonymous · February 16, 2012, 18:58

I think a solution may be to drill,tap and grubscrew the pieces together maybe?

Anonymous · February 16, 2012, 19:02

Braise?

*andy* · February 16, 2012, 19:39

How does £5 posted compare to ebay? Anyone interested? I will donate it to MR2ROC minus postage costs! I have had them a while and would like to see them used for the intended purpose!

Can be flexible on the price if people aren't interested, just thought the club deserves something back :-) :-) :-)

I have 4 available by the way!

E · February 16, 2012, 20:20

Andy how does the original blade fit to the key, does the Toy 41 blade physically fit in there by this I mean when the key is closed is there room in the key body for it, which ones have you got any pics or links, ive been wanting one of these for ages so if its doable I would like to give it a go.

*andy* · February 16, 2012, 20:49

There is room with some modification, i got a stanley knife blade and just shaved a bit of plastic off either side. It wasn't noticeable. I was going to post some pics and show where I got to! I just need to find it! :-) :-) :-) Thought it was with the unopened flip keys!

It will definitely all take a bit of messing around, you will need to disassemble the flip shell, remove the blade from the metal holder, butcher up a spare MR2 key blade to resemble the shape of the base of the flip key, then find a way of fixing it. With my attempt, the attachment of the key blade to the flip key mechanism didn't look OEM as it was a bit messy. However when closed you couldn't tell!

redarrow · February 17, 2012, 02:37

The flip with blade toy41 is not in production yet.

I asked around 30 members last weekend.

You could ask a main dealer, to alter the key for you, but that means finding the correct chines flip key maker.

regards redarrow.

ps. i am sure that someone with a wig,mig,arch wielder, can pop of a toy43 blade and replace with a toy41 blade, where all have to wait and see.

maybe you can get a key cut with toy41,then cut the key blade at the very top off, then get the flip and cut the blade off at the top, know go to the shop and get a welders glue.

here example only(Don't no the ebay user, only showing as a example of product.)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/J-B-Weld-Industrial-Strength-Adhesive-JB-Cold-Auto-Weld-/120858181714?pt=UK_Crafts_Cardmaking_Scrapbooking_Glue_Tape_EH&hash=item1c23b58052

glue the key toy41 back on.

done.

good luck , if the key brakes in the door your respectability not mine, it a idea only.

E · February 17, 2012, 11:36

Going by what Ive seen so far on youtube there should be a very small cotter pin near the end of the blade, it should tap out hen its a matter of cutting the new Toy 41 blade to fit then replace the pin, fiddly but should be doable.

Anonymous · February 17, 2012, 12:36

andy put me down for one. i have even got a broken key perfect for this and a mig welder if needed lol. ill pm you regarding payment

Anonymous · February 17, 2012, 12:51

It cant be that hard to mill out some of these from scratch with a CNC machine?

Anonymous · February 17, 2012, 13:00

Quote from: "dick2ski"It cant be that hard to mill out some of these from scratch with a CNC machine?

sadly for a CnC they can be a pain as they are small. its hard for the machine to grip the metal to CnC it. im guess key makers have special machines just to aid in the gripping purpose

russw69 · February 17, 2012, 13:12

I ordered one of the flip keys from ebay, and knocked out the roll pin filled and drilled my old key to same shape and fit into flip case, job done!

Treboeth · February 17, 2012, 13:22

Quote from: "russw69"I ordered one of the flip keys from ebay, and knocked out the roll rin filed my old ket to same shape and fit into flip case, job done!

No need to be shy Russ tell us which key you bought and don't forget the pics s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

russw69 · February 17, 2012, 13:25

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