American Exhaust Supplier On Ebay?

Started by regedit, August 14, 2012, 09:36

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regedit

#25
Quote from: "Wabbitkilla"You cannot, simply cannot compare the Saxo brigade and their exhausts with the MR2 .... mid-engined rwd has a very specific requirement as regards exhausts.
The regular price for the MR2 and Lotus is around the £400 mark, that's not because of fashion, that's just because it's a bit more dificult to make than a pipe straight along the bottom of a hatchback. Sorry if that offends you, but that's why the price is more than a standard box. We have seen some of these "anyone can weld some boxes and pipes together" and they're laughable.

TBH you could probably get a custom exhaust fabricated for similar prices, if you find you're balking at the prices of the bits, even just an exhaust then you've obviously bought the wrong car. It goes with the territory, if you want a cheap exhaust then go buy a Saxe, there were many more Saxos built, they're a hatchback with a straight-forward exhaust hence there's more available and cheaper ... though I doubt their quality is anything near what you get for the MR2 .. even from Che.

I'm not 'offended' by you having an opinion on MR2 exhausts. Although your tone in this entry comes across pretty arrogant! I'm fairly new to the forum and still learning about the car and what bits are available for it. My car before this one was a Jaguar XK8, so I'm well aware of the costs involved and the quality associated with various manufacturers.

Please don't try to denigrate  members views by suggesting they've 'obviously bought the wrong car', there's no need for it.    s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

Anonymous

#26
Quote from: "Wabbitkilla"You cannot, simply cannot compare the Saxo brigade and their exhausts with the MR2 .... mid-engined rwd has a very specific requirement as regards exhausts.
The regular price for the MR2 and Lotus is around the £400 mark, that's not because of fashion, that's just because it's a bit more dificult to make than a pipe straight along the bottom of a hatchback. Sorry if that offends you, but that's why the price is more than a standard box. We have seen some of these "anyone can weld some boxes and pipes together" and they're laughable.

TBH you could probably get a custom exhaust fabricated for similar prices, if you find you're balking at the prices of the bits, even just an exhaust then you've obviously bought the wrong car. It goes with the territory, if you want a cheap exhaust then go buy a Saxe, there were many more Saxos built, they're a hatchback with a straight-forward exhaust hence there's more available and cheaper ... though I doubt their quality is anything near what you get for the MR2 .. even from Che.

Im not offended, that does not make sense atall.

My HKS cat back system on my RX7 cost just under £600 and its really only a back box as the cat is halfway down the cars body (if you have one that is  s:) :) s:)  ) so im not being tight, i spend more on car modifications than your average car enthusiast. But IMO (being the magic abbreviation) having four exhaust pipes coming out the back of a 1.8 really is no different to a SAXO with two massive exhaust pipes coming out of its backside. Its all show and 'No Go'... if thats your thing then thats fine, im not telling others what they should do, just stating my outlook on exhausts for the 2.

Wabbitkilla

#27
I think I wasn't trying to "denigrate" anyone, and I'm not being arrogant ... only pointing out the fact of life and that £400 for an exhaust on this car is regular, common, and pretty sensible. Especially considering I know one or two people who have had exhausts fabricated and they cost in the £450 - £550 region, so experience tells me it's around the right price for a quality exhaust. The Che exhausts are cheaper until you add import costs and duties ... which is a shame as they are actually quite good and Che offers fantastic after-sales support.

I'm with you on 4 exits is way ott ... in my opinion, but other people like what they have and that's fine.
I like the centre or twin centre approach as it balances the rear of the car for me and is relatively subtle.
Centre exhausts are actually a bit tricky on this car, some are great, some are really crap.

I don't like the bean can look, they're ugly, overly noisy and untuned and scream "look at me I'm a traffic light hero"... some people like them, go for it.
They are not track proven though, contrary to opinion, they are designed for a certain fashion in Japan much like quads are designed for a certain fashion here. They are much more suited to turbo cars, hence why you will see them on track cars in Japan.
 
Ok, mine is a Janspeed exhaust and that company has a proven track record ... but not with the MR2 .... I just like the exhaust. I realise it's not everyones cup of tea ... fine go and choose another exhaust or get one made.

My other point was that the MR2 was a low volume car, therefore tuning / fashion items are as a result less available and more expensive. Sales were a lot better in America which is why there are some choice cheaper bits over there. Unfortunately our government sees imports as a good place to make a profit, and therefore the mail systems and couriers see it as an opportunity to add their bit on too.

Don't put me across as arrogant, I'm probably one of the more reasonable people here, but I can't help pointing out the realities involve in tuning or modifying these cars.
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Anonymous

#28
Quote from: "Wabbitkilla"Don't put me across as arrogant, I'm probably one of the more reasonable people here, but I can't help pointing out the realities involve in tuning or modifying these cars.

now that true. the one thing that is missed sometimes is nelix he would always argue a point, but it did make a very funny read

Wabbitkilla

#29
I guess you could change "reality" into "expense"   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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AckersMR2

#30
I think the price of custom/mod parts is very subjective, what some might think as expensive other may not? While I don't think that £400 is bad for a stainless steel cat back twin pipe system, I thought £170 for a bent piece of steel tube with some netting stretched across it is overpriced for a wind break? Each to their own

Anyhow I would say that when I bought a pair of these for my bike  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

granted they are titanium, but their £450 and there's nothing inside them, just two megaphone pipes, when the package turned up I thought it was empty!  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
My only car is a Ducati 

Anonymous

#31
Ok well im not sure why you are being so defensive, i have not implied you are arrogant so dont understand where this is coming from? Its a debate of taste's and opinions not a reflection on anyones personalities. Im sorry if you feel different.

Anonymous

#32
my exhaust system cost a bit so far Janspeed System £200, 200 cell cat for me to weld in £150 turbo manifold and downpipe estimated cost £500 and now my new modified turbo with nissan skyline gt-r internals at £528 makes my exhaust system cost me £1378!!!

i wished i didnt work that out now.

ChrisGB

#33
The problem with tailpipes is that you are always going to have a problem if you worry about how they look. One pipe on one side looks lop sided, but intentionally so With two pipes, do they ever really sit at the same height and distance in from the sides? Single centre exit, is it really in the middle? Dual centre exits, definitely level and central? Quad exits, level, level and evenly spaced? Easy option is to sneak the exhaust out slash cut, just out of sight under the bumper, no exits, easy life!

The Che stuff is reasonably priced but not as well made as the best built systems available. You get what you pay for.

Chris
Ex 2GR-FE roadster. Sold it. Idiot.  Now Jaguar XE-S 380. Officially over by the bins.

Anonymous

#34
Good points being made there, i certainly have never came across a car with such an interesting exhaust system design in any of my other cars ive owned. I think the point being made by Wabbit concerning the neich for tuning parts for the zzw30 is also why the prices are so high! Having a rare car in the Uk is a good thing but also has its negative effects too.

Oh and Ackers, the titanium systems for the RX's are heavenly but uber uber loud! some are not allowed on tracks inthe UK due to the noise restrictions. Your bike must sound badass!

Wabbitkilla

#35
Quote from: "Carbon RX"Gthe neich for tuning parts for the zzw30 is also why the prices are so high! Having a rare car in the Uk is a good thing but also has its negative effects too.

Never a truer word spoken .... Janspeed stopped making exhausts for the Roadster and are a pain to get anything out of, I think they destroyed the rig.
There are other companies that stopped too, or just disappeared off the face of the world. One thing that bothers me about the two / quad exit exhausts is how many of them are total pita's to get the tips equally adjusted   s:roll: :roll: s:roll:   Even the TTE, Toyotas own has a ridiculous setup for the tail pipes.
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Anonymous

#36
I think for everything JDM you need to live in Japland, the US or even OZ have a good scene with lots of parts developers up and coming. I dont seem to find the same drive over here. Is there a company in the UK that specialise in the roadsters? as for most other sports cars it seems there are...? Maybe allot of UK buyers in the market choose the MX5 which is why you can get every AM part under the sun over here?!?

chris3boro

#37
We need a Roadster version of 'mx5parts' etc

Anonymous

#38
Quote from: "chris3boro"We need a Roadster version of 'mx5parts' etc

SPOT ON!

I think the parts prices may fall if we did!   s:D :D s:D   So who's gonna start it up then?   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

chris3boro

#39
Quote from: "Carbon RX"
Quote from: "chris3boro"We need a Roadster version of 'mx5parts' etc

SPOT ON!

I think the parts prices may fall if we did!   s:D :D s:D   So who's gonna start it up then?   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

Well volunteered!   s:mrgreen: :mrgreen: s:mrgreen:  

It is a shame though, the mx5 lads seem to rate that site generally and it provides quite a few options for different stuff incl their own exhaust systems etc-we need one setting up! (easy as that haha)

Anonymous

#40
Some of my friends with access to CNC machines have started to develop affordable tuning parts from billet aluminium starting with wheel spacers to fuel rails and now producing AM throttle bodies with proven performance gains etc for RX's. It seems quite a few people have also done the same for RX as well as all the Datsun gangs etc. Who works in an engineering work shop on here that fancies a business venture?

chris3boro

#41
Quote from: "Carbon RX"Who works in an engineering work shop on here that fancies a business venture?

(tumbleweed...)   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

AckersMR2

#42
Quote from: "Carbon RX"Your bike must sound badass!

These are only slip on tailpipes but even so I still run it with the db killers in otherwise its too loud even wearing earplugs and a helmet   s:crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: s:crazyeyes:  the weight saving though is huge and makes a massive difference to the handling. Track noise limits are crazy and only going to get worse, some bikes now out of the crate don't pass the limits anymore   s:( :( s:(  

When I fitted my TTE it was definately a case of knowing when to leave it alone otherwise i'd still be out there now tweaking it   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  
We saw a guy at Beaulieu who had the proflow quad ones fitted and he was taking it back because both side pointed inwards slightly, funnily enough me and andi thought it looked better like that   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

Makes you wonder though what affect removing a heavy standard exhaust from the very back of the car has if any, especially when you consider just the removal of the spare from the front has a noticeable affect (apparently? ive not tried it and don't plan to)
My only car is a Ducati 

ChrisGB

#43
Quote from: "AckersMR2"Makes you wonder though what affect removing a heavy standard exhaust from the very back of the car has if any, especially when you consider just the removal of the spare from the front has a noticeable affect (apparently? ive not tried it and don't plan to)

It makes a very noticeable difference. My current cat back system weighs in at about 3Kg and I feel the car takes a set with less overshoot. The stock system weighs a bit less than some of the after market ones too. I seem to remember reading somewhere that the Magnex weighed in at 16Kg.

Chris
Ex 2GR-FE roadster. Sold it. Idiot.  Now Jaguar XE-S 380. Officially over by the bins.

Anonymous

#44
Quote from: "ChrisGB"
Quote from: "AckersMR2"Makes you wonder though what affect removing a heavy standard exhaust from the very back of the car has if any, especially when you consider just the removal of the spare from the front has a noticeable affect (apparently? ive not tried it and don't plan to)

It makes a very noticeable difference. My current cat back system weighs in at about 3Kg and I feel the car takes a set with less overshoot. The stock system weighs a bit less than some of the after market ones too. I seem to remember reading somewhere that the Magnex weighed in at 16Kg.

Chris

So basically the Magnex decreases overall performance and you pay £100's for that pleasure? haha jokes.

loadswine

#45
I doubt it decreases performance, as it is one of the few exhausts that actually make a few additional horsepower. So probably break even overall.
No Roadster any more, Golf 7.5 GTi Performance

ChrisGB

#46
Not just Magnex, all the large box twin pipe systems (eg TTE / Remus) weigh a similar amount and that weight is high up and behind the rear axle. I had a Che single exit system which showed a gain of 6 bhp on the rollers.

Chris
Ex 2GR-FE roadster. Sold it. Idiot.  Now Jaguar XE-S 380. Officially over by the bins.

dansage

#47
Quote from: "chris3boro"Would probably work out comparabke to the UK ones,cobra etc I'm guessing. Shame there's not more options for the roadster exhaust under £400ish especially considering apart from two cans there's no long pipes running from the front of the car etc

try proflow exhaust in the midlands. Supplied and fitted for £350

If you search fleabay for "proflow mr2" the black mr2 in the pic is mine!

highly recommended.

Dan
Black 2000 Mr2. 17 inch alloys, 35mm lowering kit, Full stainless proflow double twin exhaust, K&N cool air induction kit, led light upgrades, blue plasma glow white dial dash, short shift kit, push button start, hard top.

redcarblackhorse

#48
I just fitted a Che exhaust that I got from E bay
 m http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toyota-MR2-Sp ... 5ae70a84c3 m

This is from Top Speed Perfromance comapny. Shipping was £103. So much cheaper than than getting something here in the UK.
The chap I delt with (Will) sent me this link to show fitting (as it does not come with instructions or fitting bolts).
 m http://www.spyderchat.com/forums/showth ... %20install m  

Needed a little tweaking to the CAT exhaust rubber but otherwise no issues. Really does sound sporty:-) and looks different. High end revs feel more free too.
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chris3boro

#49
Quote from: "redcarblackhorse"I just fitted a Che exhaust that I got from E bay
 m http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toyota-MR2-Sp ... 5ae70a84c3 m

This is from Top Speed Perfromance comapny. Shipping was £103. So much cheaper than than getting something here in the UK.
The chap I delt with (Will) sent me this link to show fitting (as it does not come with instructions or fitting bolts).
 m http://www.spyderchat.com/forums/showth ... %20install m  

Needed a little tweaking to the CAT exhaust rubber but otherwise no issues. Really does sound sporty:-) and looks different. High end revs feel more free too.

Did you have the same issues as the guy in that fitting thread? Seemed not to line up well at the jining flange for him, and it rubbed on the cat. Did you have to work around these issues? Also I wondered if it is likely to rub or melt some of the bumber above the tailpipes?
Does it drone much? Many pops or bangs etc? Get pics and vids up!

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