TRD Waydo Sportivo -> Way to go !! ;-)

dieamond · July 15, 2004, 23:35

Yesterday was national vacation, so I decided to install the TRD suspensions sitting in my living room since a month with a friend (I did the installation with a friend, I didn't have a friend sitting in my living for a month s:roll: :roll: s:roll: ).

Insallation was kind of a pita... no real problem but nearly 5 hours of slow and meticulous work.

I gave the first run in position 2 (1 is "soft", 4 is HARD)

And OMG is it rocking !!

When you brake, it doesn't lean
When you turn, it doesn't lean. Even the TTE stabilizers set on hard at the front and medium at the rear let a little bit of roll. Now, nothing.

I tried position 1 to see. It's just a little harder than stock. It's still better than stock because it combinates better with the H&R springs than the stock struts, maybe H&R are too hard.

Tomorrow I'll try position 4, rock'n'roll baby !!

Anonymous · July 16, 2004, 15:07

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How long did it take to fit?

Anonymous · July 16, 2004, 15:26

Quote from: "dieamond"Insallation was kind of a pita... no real problem but nearly 5 hours of slow and meticulous work.

dieamond · July 16, 2004, 16:55

5 hours including taking the tools out of the MR-S Cave at the beginning and cleaning ourselves at the end.

I saw a professionnal install my springs in 1 hour for the 4 wheels before though, so it's definitly possible to do better :-) :-) :-)

Anonymous · July 20, 2004, 12:18

The Sportivo has adjustable struts? s:shock: :shock: s:shock: I always thought they were non adjustable...

Tem · July 20, 2004, 13:22

Quote from: "143hawaii"The Sportivo has adjustable struts? s:shock: :shock: s:shock: I always thought they were non adjustable...

That WAY-DO is some new TRD series, the "real" Sportivo doesn't have adjustables.

Anonymous · July 20, 2004, 21:00

Ahhhh, I thought it was a typo and he meant "Way to Go!" or something like that s:P

s:P

Is WAY-DO only in Europe/UK?

dieamond · July 20, 2004, 21:46

No Waydo is an official name from TRD.

Tem · July 20, 2004, 22:31

m http://www.trdparts.jp/parts_sportivo.html m

dieamond · July 21, 2004, 06:40

That's it, but they don't list waydo sportivo for MRS

Tem · July 21, 2004, 10:29

Quote from: "dieamond"That's it, but they don't list waydo sportivo for MRS

Yeah, their pages have always been more or less behind on what's really available s:? :? s:?

Anonymous · July 21, 2004, 11:19

Quote from: "dieamond"No Waydo is an official name from TRD.

Wow, you learn something new everyday s:)

s:)

Is this an entire sportivo kit similar to the normal kit (i.e. it includes sways, springs, struts, bushings, etc.) with the only difference being that the struts are now adjustable? Where'd you find it, japanparts.com?

dieamond · July 21, 2004, 15:06

Ad : I have good prices on them on mrs-passion.com s:P

s:P

It's not a kit, but you can buy all the parts of the sportivo separatly if you want.

I recommend taking the springs, to have a good match

You can take the bushings which are cheap too.

Tem · July 21, 2004, 15:28

Quote from: "143hawaii"Where'd you find it, japanparts.com?

I think everyone who sells TRD should have them...haven't checked on pricing, but I'd be surprised if the cheapest way to USA would be through Europe with double shipping and our taxes s:roll: :roll: s:roll:

Edit: Oh well, let's ignore the taxes then s8)

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dieamond · July 21, 2004, 16:59

A *real* society can sell without tax if it's out of Europe :-) :-) :-)

(I insist on real society, as opposed to "home business")

markiii · July 21, 2004, 17:01

Arnaud,

any idea if teh springs are teh same part number as the ones that are usedon teh normal sportivo?

dieamond · July 21, 2004, 17:06

They are definitly different : harder, lower, cheaper.

WayDo Sportivo Springs :
front; 23.4N/mm
rear; 46.2N/mm
approx. 20mm - 30mm lower

Sportivo Springs :
Front K=15.6N/mm
Rear K=33.6N/mm
approx. 20mm lower

Sportivo springs are 80Euros more expensive than the Waydo
(don't ask me why...)

Tem · July 21, 2004, 18:14

Quote from: "dieamond"Sportivo springs are 80Euros more expensive than the Waydo
(don't ask me why...)

One TRD brochure introduced Waydo as "cheap and fun for people who don't need the best" or something like that. Maybe they are more show than go, or maybe it's 100% marketing, who knows...

GSB · July 21, 2004, 18:19

Quote from: "dieamond"They are definitly different : harder, lower, cheaper.

WayDo Sportivo Springs :
front; 23.4N/mm
rear; 46.2N/mm
approx. 20mm - 30mm lower

Sportivo Springs :
Front K=15.6N/mm
Rear K=33.6N/mm
approx. 20mm lower

Sportivo springs are 80Euros more expensive than the Waydo
(don't ask me why...)

Bloody hell thats stiff! (said the actress to the bishop...)

Are you sure they're not track springs? I dont think I'd want anything that stiff in the UK.

Tem · July 21, 2004, 18:24

Ok...now you made me wonder...

The TRD track springs that have been available since 2000 or so are:
-25mm Drop
K=23.4N/mm(2.4kgf/mm)
K=46.2N/mm, (4.7kgf/mm)

And they are recommended to be used with these struts, also available since 2000 or so:
Damping force 4grades adjustable, ex.)2nd: 713/727N (73/74kgf)

GSB · July 21, 2004, 18:26

The penny drops... So TRD have a load of unsold Track kits they want rid of then?

Tem · July 21, 2004, 18:30

Quote from: "GSB"So TRD have a load of unsold Track kits they want rid of then?

Kinda looks like it s:? :? s:?

I guess that's a good thing, if you live in a country with good roads s:roll: :roll: s:roll:

dieamond · July 21, 2004, 19:44

To be honest, the car is better on hard road with struts + H&R than with H&R on stock struts

I think I read on SC that H1R springs are harder than the TRD

Anonymous · July 27, 2004, 09:16

Quote from: "dieamond"They are definitly different : harder, lower, cheaper.

WayDo Sportivo Springs :
front; 23.4N/mm
rear; 46.2N/mm
approx. 20mm - 30mm lower

Sportivo Springs :
Front K=15.6N/mm
Rear K=33.6N/mm
approx. 20mm lower

Sportivo springs are 80Euros more expensive than the Waydo
(don't ask me why...)

Wouldn't it be great if we had the specs for the stock springs (00-02 and 03- models)...

I'm wondering whether the (standard) Sportivo springs aren't just the same stiffness (within 10% or so) as the stock, but just 20mm shorter?

But, hey, the WayDo Sportivo springs are definitely stiff, their specifications are almost the same as the competition/track springs (as seen on the Japanese version of TRD website)

I'm definitely going to fit the 4-way adjustable struts, but I'm still hesitating about the springs. If the standard Sportivos are stiffer than stock and you can adjust the shockies to "hard" that may be stiff enough for track days. Then you could revert to a more "civilised" setting for day to day...

Anyone know where I could find the specs for the stock suspension? Even Toyota dealers don't know!

Cheers,

John

Tem · July 27, 2004, 13:57

Quote from: "phat"If the standard Sportivos are stiffer than stock

They are quite a lot stiffer than stock. I don't really remember the numbers, but the stock springs had very low numbers...I just remember thinking if the Sportivo would be too rough, when I saw the numbers before buying them.

...but then again, it's all about the spring+shock combination, not just the shock...