MR2 MK3 FL Track Car

[Kaveney]

So after about 7 weeks in the air in the garage on axel stands the car is now back on the ground after a load of upgrades to the chassis and other bits .

The coilovers seem spot on ride height wise for me and the bigger rubber going on tomorrow will sit just fine on this .

Before on stock suspension

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After

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The car drives fine and even tho the tracking will be off it feels great and I know it will be a lot of fun on Monday .

One thing to note is that the engine mounts have made the car a proper track car now and the whole car shakes and is so loud inside but this just adds to the special feel of a track car .

[Kaveney]

Last update was to have the Nankang NS2R tyres put on that are bigger at 195/50/18 front and 225/45/16 Rear ( stock is 185/50/15 215/45/16 )

Then a front wheel alignment only as I could not get booked in for a 4 wheel one in time .


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Then a quick shake down to check everything was ok before Monday at Castle Combe .

I checked everything again Saturday morning and there was a puddle of brake fluid on the front drivers side .

This was just a lose pipe that was a quick fix and a re bleed and all was fine again .

[Kaveney]

So yesterday we went to Castle Combe for the first time and the below is how we got on .

It is about 2 and a half hours from where we live so we set off at 4.20 AM in the morning and got there for 7.00 AM

Did all the signing on and safety briefing and noise test .

A few pics


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Then it was out for some sighting laps then off out for my first session .

The car has had lots of suspension upgrades from our last track day at Brands Hatch 7 weeks ago and felt amazing and much quicker than before with loads more grip and traction than before .


The vids are not the best for sound or picture as we had a few problems im afraid .


My session 1


https://youtu.be/IKJjMwjXI2E


After my first session the car felt great and I was getting quicker and quicker and the car felt really good and planted so I started to push a bit harder and then came off for a cool down and so Lucy could have a go .


Lucy session 1


https://youtu.be/QbGCy5B0pno


Then it was time for my second session and things did not go according to plan LOL


I was really enjoying myself and pushing harder and harder each lap and then had some fun keeping an Prelude and Boxster behind me before a racing instant happened or me running out of talent and driving past my limits .


I hold my hands up it was Just down to pushing too hard , turning in too early and driving past my limits so no oil on the track or something broke on the car just driver error .


My session 2 ( 3.40 for the good bit )


https://youtu.be/9ECayQu9HUw



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With a bit of luck the damage was just cosmetic ( front bumper , light , door , wing and rear panel ) as the radiator , PAS pump and steering / suspension was all un touched and fine so after a really nice guy ( sorry forgot your name ) gave me some duck tape the car was allowed back on track again .


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Lucy had the first go and drove great again .


Lucy session 2


https://youtu.be/02kwFSAFnhg


Then I wanted to get back on track and it's the first time I have had a crash so lost a bit of confidence and was lapping slowly and was not feeling confident driving the car .
I started to push a little bit more but called it a day and went back in .


My Session 3


https://youtu.be/XqwcQSkfmDI


We were planning on heading home as it was 3.00 PM but I wanted another go as I think I needed to get some confidence back .

I think I did about 4/5 laps and by the end I was back to the sort of pace I was having fun at in session two all be it with some more care and not pushing over my limits .


My Session 4


https://youtu.be/SoKAR0LDKE8


It is funny how a shunt can change the way you drive and I think I needed to go back out and push a bit hard again and it was the best thing of the day I think for me having fun again ( Lucy did say slow down as I was pushing a bit too hard on the last lap again )

Then it was time to pack up and head back home for the 2 and a half hour drive that was not fun with a lot of road works so was more like 3 hours .

So all in all it was a great day and great fun and I learnt a lot and now just need to get some replacement bumpers , wing and headlight fast as we are booked in to Brands Hatch next Tuesday then off the Nurburgring on the Monday after 06/08//18 .

[james_ly]

Glad I could help and hope it didn't put you off Castle Combe. My car was faultless, will dig out the video later.

[Kaveney]

I will be back soon for redemption

Just need to get some replacement panels now .

Regards

Glad I could help and hope it didn't put you off Castle Combe. My car was faultless, will dig out the video later.

[1979scotte]

Get that car setup properly by someone who knows what they're doing and you won't have to worry about preludes.
Wheels in motion where mentioned and are highly recommended.

[Kaveney]

Car is booked in to Eurospec for Tuesday so they can set it up .

Regards

Get that car setup properly by someone who knows what they're doing and you won't have to worry about preludes.
Wheels in motion where mentioned and are highly recommended.

[Kaveney]

So in order to sort out the damaged car I got in contact with an MR2 specialist and got up at 4.00 AM on Saturday to drive the 180 Miles to pick up the replacement units I need to fix the car .

Rutland was the company and had lots of MR2s and loads of replacement parts .

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All back home with the replacement bumper , front wing and headlight .

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I also got some new rear camber bolts from Powerflex with 1.75 adjustment .

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The car is booked in to Eurospec in Guildford tomorrow at 9.00 AM to have a full Geo set up and to make sure everything is set up correctly then it is off to Brands Hatch in the afternoon for the afternoon track session . ( hoping not to have any more moments as we have only driver the car twice on track and have both had spins )

I just need to get all the replacement units bolted on and we are all ready to go for tomorrow .

[Kaveney]

So yesterday we set off at 6.45 AM up to Guildford to have a full GEO settings done at Eurospec before we went to the Brands Hatch evening session at 5.00 PM .


After talking to Ben at Eurospec we asked for a better rear set up that would be more forgiving and after talking with him the rear end should be more planted but he did say with this set up if you do lose the back end it will be harder to catch .


The night before I did set the rear anti roll bar to full soft as well .


Before and after measurements .


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Not ever having a car set up correctly in not too sure on the numbers but am happy that is has been set correctly ( if anyone wants to explain this more this would be helpful for me )


We got to Brands Hatch and did the sign on and then parked up .


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New wing , bumper and light fitted .


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Then noise test and that is where problem one started .


Doing the noise test it became clear that the hand brake was not holding the car enough so we will have to look to get this sorted but not the end of the world and we just parked the car in gear .


We did some sighting laps then I went out for the first session and after one lap the car had hesitation and missing under load so it was back in to the pits to take a look .


My first session

https://youtu.be/Edljb-uoBsM


Having had this on a few cars over the years I thought this would be an O2 sensor , injector , coil pack or spark plug .


With no replacement units and reading that the O2 sensors are a common problem ( there are 3 of them ) I disconnected the three O2 sensors and we took the car out to see if this fix the problem for the day .


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We met a really nice guy ( James I think as I'm not great with names ) that had his Mini cooper S and said we could have a passenger ride in his car if we could not get the MR2 running .


After about 40 mins of checking bits and unplugging O2 sensors the car was running ok again so we managed to have another couple of goes each .


Me session 2

https://youtu.be/k5es5f-fxw0


Lucy session 1

https://youtu.be/kIrVDpgxqks


Lucy session 2

https://youtu.be/rp9JL-BFO-0


I was still a bit tentative as I did not want us to have another spin or moment as we are off next Monday to the Nurburgring and did not want to stuff it but by my last session was pushing a bit harder but still not committing fully but I could feel that the car was handling very well and that the GEO set up was much better but was still holding back a bit .


Lucy did the last session and was getting better and quicker and it was a shame the day came to a close as she was getting more confident and better each lap .


So I now have 5 days to get some replacement O2 sensors and some replacement coil packs and injectors as back-ups before we set off for Germany to the Nurburgring on Monday for the next outing .

[james_ly]

Wonder why they went with more camber front than rear? I'd have thought it would make it more twitchy...

[Kaveney]

Im not sure I just said can the do a track set up .

The rear old set up was a bit out at 103 left and 0.53 right so this should be much better

Car felt good but I was not pushing that hard .

Will need to go back to Castle Combe to test it out

Wonder why they went with more camber front than rear? I'd have thought it would make it more twitchy...

[Kaveney]

So after Brands Hatch on Tuesday and on our first lap we had hesitation under load I disconnected all the O2 sensors and the car ran ok all be it running rich .

Yesterday I replaced all the x 3 O2 sensors with some new Denso units and tonight will give the MAF sensor a good clean change the spark plugs to see if this will fix the problem .


New Denso units


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Old units


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We are off to the Ring on Monday so if this does not work I will look to just run the car with them unplugged again as im out of time on this one .


I hope to get some better luck soon

[ilovejapcrap]

what do you think to the sport cat ?

also the red top batt are they as reliable/powerful as a normal batt its something i know nothing about

[Kaveney]

So last Monday we set off for the Nurburgring and wake up time was 2.30 AM so we could catch our ferry at 6.30 .

The car was playing up after Brands hatch so with no time to look in to the fault ( hesitation under load ) I thought this should be a falling O2 sensor so replaced all x 3 of them and new spark plugs as well and gave the MAF sensor a good clean .


Old and new spark plugs ( car was run with the O2 sensors disconnected so was running very rich )


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The car was still playing up now and then but cleared after about 10 mins and was running well again .


Arrival at Dover with the two cars .


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Setting sale for France .


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Quick stop off in Belgium for a rest and some food and the weather was 38 deg so dam hot .


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Nothing much other happened but we did have a play on the Autobahn but traffic was a bit much so then settled down for the last part of the journey .

Small vid of Lucy in the Mr2 following me in the Fiesta ST going up in to the mountains heading for our hotel in Adenau .


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We arrived at our hotel ( we have stayed here for the last 3 years ) and dropped off our bags and went for a drink after a long journey .


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We had room 12 again and the view was amazing and overlooking the track .


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We then did head up to the part of the track that is next to our hotel to watch some laps of that Monday night .



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We then went for dinner at Pistenklause and a stake on a stone and a few Bitburgers .


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On Tuesday it was 37 deg so we had some breakfast and went for a coffee and a cake .


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We had some lunch and looked in a few shops then it was coming up to 5.00 PM so we did some checks on the car and set off .


With telling myself to drive with plenty of margin I set off on my first lap in the Mr2 at the ring .


For some reason the GP track was open and made part of the complete lap so this was amazing as I have never driven the GP track before .


The bracket for the Go pro was playing up so the noise and movement are not that great but at 13.44 an older Porsche 911 was holding me up so was pleasing to say I went past a 911 


Alan Vid 1


https://youtu.be/lm3sBaF3Hoo


Must have been going an ok pace as the tyres were nice and hot and sticky


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Then Lucy had a go


Lucy Vid 1


https://youtu.be/TPg64wT-2A0


Then it was off to Pinocchio for a large pizza and a beer .


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On Wednesday we again went for some lunch and had a look around and came across some type R units from the UK


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Then had a look round in the Nurburgring centre and went in the stands to have a look at the Porsche track day .


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And some other random pics


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We then set off again for when the track was open at 5.15 PM and parked up



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For Wednesday we had booked a hot lap in the Jaguar race taxi that is a XJR 575 so not too far short of 600 BHP .



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This must be up there with one of the best things I have ever done and the speed and skill was breath taking .


I have driven a few laps over the past 4 years at the ring the speeds the guy could go in a big 4 door saloon was amazing and scary as well really left me speechless  .


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There was also a very nice 720S in the car park


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After this it was time to go on track our self .


Alan Vid 2

https://youtu.be/y3tBsmroxvc



Lucy Vid 2


https://youtu.be/fARqopv9Pws


We then went out for dinner and there were more great cars parked around so a few pictures were needed .


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Then for our last day Thursday the weather was a bit wet most of the day but we still made it out on track but taking things very easy .


Alan Vid 3


https://youtu.be/BryU8pJCW3k



Lucy Vid 3


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We then went for dinner and a drink and managed to get some shots of the track .


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Then after packing up the car a UK GT4 parked up .


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And then leaving France


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It was an amazing trip and had a great time as we all ways do and will look to head back in 2020 as next year we will be looking at more UK track days .

[Kaveney]

Small update to the car in the form of the front was sitting a bit hi on the stock coilover right height and with there being no weight at the front I have dropped the front by 25mm that should help the front out as it was sitting with the nose up a tad .

Also had a bit of fun with some decals ( some to cover the small dent where I had a little off at Castle Combe ) to give the car a bit of colour and keep a list of the tracks we have done so far .


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I am looking to maybe do Bedford Autodrome in September or book the car in to Rouge Motorsport for a 2ZZ conversion and then pack the car away early for the winter .

[Kaveney]

So after the Germany trip I was having a think on what track to do next as I was going to try and get one or two more in before the end of the year ( Bedford is one I want to do ) but after having a think about what I want to do to the car next I have taken the step to pack up shop for this year and instead book the car in with Rogue Motorsport on October to have the 2ZZ engine swap done along with some other bits like light weight flywheel , close ratio gear box from the Celica and LSD swap , forge oil pump gears and a PPE induction .

I will then look to pack the car away for the winter before coming back out next year to do a lot more track days ( I do want to do Spa as well )

Other bits I will look at over the winter will be Carbotech XP8 brake pads all round , Hard top roof , Light weight wheels and R888R tires .

Few pics of the car being stripped of 1ZZ parts to sell .


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[Bcxbcx]

Nice!
Are you sourcing all the parts for the swap or is Rouge sorting it all out?
And I assume you'll transfer the sump over too?

I'll be interested in how it all pans out as I'm saving up to do this myself next year.

Are you going permanent hard top?

[Kaveney]

No Rouge will be doing it all and the car is a 2006 Celica 74K miles .

I will look to swap over the sump myself later and yes I will look to swap to full hard top with a half cage later next year .

Regards

Nice!
Are you sourcing all the parts for the swap or is Rouge sorting it all out?
And I assume you'll transfer the sump over too?

I'll be interested in how it all pans out as I'm saving up to do this myself next year.

Are you going permanent hard top?

[LeoD]

Excellent thread and great to see such quality track focused work!

I have recently done the 2ZZ exchange using a celica and it is good.

However a friend has done the same but using the Corrolla T Sport gearbox and the difference is night and day on track. The shorter gearing on the corrolla box means the car is on cam far more often than I am with the celica box and is approx 6 seconds a lap quicker than me on our local track. I will see can I dig out matching videos and the difference is night and day

[LeoD]

This is the boys in the 2ZZ with corrolla box

https://youtu.be/oESr69BbJrE

[1979scotte]

I thought the 2zz box from corrolla and Celica were identical.
I would think you've got the stock 1zz gearbox if there is that much difference.

@shnazzle what do you think?

[KRAMSNEHPETS]

thats what i am thinking!

[LeoD]

And here is me in the 2ZZ with Celica Box

https://youtu.be/XZbjH6s2WNA

[LeoD]

I thought the 2zz box from corrolla and Celica were identical.
I would think you've got the stock 1zz gearbox if there is that much difference.

@shnazzle what do you think?

That's what I thought too!!!! 

Difference is night and day.

I am even running the G Link extreme ECU and cannot get near them!!!

[LeoD]

My understanding is the ratios on the corrolla are much shorter/closer hence on CAM more of the time.

If you compare the videos, the boys are going through three gears, where I am really only using two.

My exchange was from a celica both engine and box with LSD