The Green Goddess

Started by H1GRM, October 18, 2018, 08:36

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So my first dilemma:

Having bought Steve's Green MR2 Turbo and enjoyed her for a few weeks do I keep her on the road through the winter or SORN her at the month end?

The idea is that The Green Goddess is a good weather, top down, enjoy driving again, fun machine.

She is garaged about a mile from my house as I only have room for two cars.

Paying monthly for Road tax so is it worth it for the odd winter dry crisp day?

What do you guys think?

The link is to Steve's ramblings so as to keep continuity on the car:

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jvanzyl

You've basically bought one of the most well kept cars out there... the salt on our roads is horrific. If you're able to be disciplined enough to rinse off the salt after each winter run then you'll be fine.. otherwise you've got to be ok with the slow but sure corrosion of everything.
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1979scotte

I don't see the point of owning a 2 and not driving it. ( Apart from when its at the garage )
Tbh if I owned a Ferrari 250 GTO I would still drive it whenever the mood took me because that is what it is for.
You're going to be waiting a long time before these cars are worth enough to justify be locked in a climate controlled garage.
Just enjoy instead.

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Bernie

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So you have other cars to use which is a similar position to me as well as owing an iconic 2
My 2 only goes out in the dry and mainly in the summer months but does get out in the winter on dry days
I have the Quattro TT for crappy days and with the tuning box it's way quicker than the 2 so I get spirited driving in all weathers to put a smile on my face
So to answer your question I suppose if Greeny is a long term keeper then keep it for dry days
Each to their own ultimately


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Quote from: jvanzyl on October 18, 2018, 08:49
You've basically bought one of the most well kept cars out there... the salt on our roads is horrific. If you're able to be disciplined enough to rinse off the salt after each winter run then you'll be fine.. otherwise you've got to be ok with the slow but sure corrosion of everything.

So without searching through the forum, whats the view on under body protection, Waxoyl, Dinitrol Etc.

There is a company near me called Rustbuster who have a very comprehensive looking web site with loads of info (https://www.rust.co.uk/)

Is it worth the money or does it just cover up the problem?

My Dad ran a garage from the end of WW2 up until the late 80's and always used to spray "keepers" with used engine oil!!!!!
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Topdownman

I guess you have to check that your insurance was going to be valid if sorning it?

I personally wouldnt want to not drive my car for months.

I have bought some ACF50 corrosion inhibitor which seems to be highly rated (if expensive) and you just spray that on so certainly sounds easy enough but I havent got round to it yet.
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Quote from: H1GRM on October 18, 2018, 12:45
[whats the view on under body protection, Waxoyl, Dinitrol Etc.

There is a company near me called Rustbuster who have a very comprehensive looking web site with loads of info (https://www.rust.co.uk/)
I looked at them. But I ended up going to a fairly local company on reccommendation from others on here. They use dinitrol products. They remove trim, mask off stuff, and steam clean, wire brush and treat with Dinitrol. Had it done 6 months ago. Around £600
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H1GRM

Quote from: delhusband on October 18, 2018, 13:30
Quote from: H1GRM on October 18, 2018, 12:45
[whats the view on under body protection, Waxoyl, Dinitrol Etc.

There is a company near me called Rustbuster who have a very comprehensive looking web site with loads of info (https://www.rust.co.uk/)
I looked at them. But I ended up going to a fairly local company on reccommendation from others on here. They use dinitrol products. They remove trim, mask off stuff, and steam clean, wire brush and treat with Dinitrol. Had it done 6 months ago. Around £600

So the $64M question - Do you think it was worth £600?

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delhusband

Quote from: H1GRM on October 18, 2018, 13:51
Quote from: delhusband on October 18, 2018, 13:30
Quote from: H1GRM on October 18, 2018, 12:45
[whats the view on under body protection, Waxoyl, Dinitrol Etc.

There is a company near me called Rustbuster who have a very comprehensive looking web site with loads of info (https://www.rust.co.uk/)
I looked at them. But I ended up going to a fairly local company on reccommendation from others on here. They use dinitrol products. They remove trim, mask off stuff, and steam clean, wire brush and treat with Dinitrol. Had it done 6 months ago. Around £600
So the $64M question - Do you think it was worth £600?
Good question! I'm not capable of quantifying it. How do you assess how well it's performing unless you take the treatment off again to inspect the condition of the metal underneath? The company offers a free re-inspection after 6 months, presumably they'd be able to see if any areas have become exposed again, and re-treat (I'm overdue my return visit). In terms of their customer service I was really happy. And they have many returning customers and testimonials. But that's not exactly an empirical way to assess how well the Dinitrol is preserving my car.  The company was Preserve and Protect in Johnstone, for info.  I knew I had to do something to halt the corrosion, the underside of my car was a complete state when I got it, and my plans for the car are long term. My fingers and legs are crossed anyway  :)
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s12vea

Nice to see you're preserving my baby.
I would say it's worth doing, just to preserve for the future
Bernie has ultimate benchmark for the underside of 2s !!

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Ardent

Quote from: H1GRM on October 18, 2018, 08:36
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Paying monthly for Road tax so is it worth it for the odd winter dry crisp day?
Yes.
nuff said.

you owe it to greeny to keep her excercised.
Make no mistake you have bought a very highly desirable car; in these circles.
Outside of here, it's an impractical, low powered, slow, hair dressers car.
We know otherwise, but you get my point.

Lets face it, these cars change hands for peanuts in the grand scheme of things motors.
We are not talking Goodwood revival stuff.
Molly coddling them. No.
Should be like a jack russell on acid.

Hold on, ssssshhh!
I can hear greeny from here, wimpering, thinking her new master is going to lock her away in the dark with no prospect of play time.  (:< >:)

H1GRM

Quote from: Ardent on October 18, 2018, 22:45
Quote from: H1GRM on October 18, 2018, 08:36
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Paying monthly for Road tax so is it worth it for the odd winter dry crisp day?
Yes.
nuff said.

you owe it to greeny to keep her excercised.
Make no mistake you have bought a very highly desirable car; in these circles.
Outside of here, it's an impractical, low powered, slow, hair dressers car.
We know otherwise, but you get my point.

Lets face it, these cars change hands for peanuts in the grand scheme of things motors.
We are not talking Goodwood revival stuff.
Molly coddling them. No.
Should be like a jack russell on acid.

Hold on, ssssshhh!
I can hear greeny from here, wimpering, thinking her new master is going to lock her away in the dark with no prospect of play time.  (:< >:)

Ok points taken,the Goddess will remain taxed insured and on the road at every fine winter day we get. I will be saving up for some form of underneath treatment.

Waiting for a stainless plate which I am having made to fit the centre rear section in order to mount a Jap size number plate (now that she is registered as Y55 GRM) Y = year 55 = year I was born and GRM = my initials)

Then its the Zunsport lower rear grill - maybe the kids can buy that for xmas or Birthday!!!

We are definitely out and about tomorrow on the sunny roads of South Lincolnshire.
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Ardent

 :D
Waiting for a stainless plate which I am having made to fit the centre rear section in order to mount a Jap size number plate
look fwd to seeing that.
We are definitely out and about tomorrow on the sunny roads of South Lincolnshire.  :notworthy:

Joesson

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Started reading the links in the above and a rust removal tool caught my attention. The MBX metal blaster. Looked an impressive "weapon"
With the power of Google I quickly found this For Sale.
I also found the following link that compares the performance of the MBX against a drill attachment.



PS:if you are reading this you will know that appropriate PPE especially eye protection must be worn

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H1GRM



Out and about yesterday in the South Lincs sun. Not another Roadster in sight.

Pics are not great but she is basking in the sun.

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Ardent

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What were you saying about putting her away.  8) ;)
Tis still BST.

H1GRM

Very true. I am just hoping we get some nice dry days this winter so the Goddess can stretch her legs (well power her wheels to be more correct).

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Going for Rear of the Year....
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H1GRM

Nice time out in the Goddess today. A couple of hours of top down motoring with no rain just a few ominous clouds.

Great fun...
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MisterK

To go back to the original question about what to do with the car during the winter, I'm of the opinion of most of the others on here - use the car when you get the opportunity, but don't take it out on wet & salty roads.  Like Bernie, I too am lucky in that the MR2 is a luxury and I only use it for pleasure as I have the Auris & Motorhome for all journeys of necessity.

Having owned the car from new and it has been garaged every night  :-*, the car's condition, both bodywork and underneath is about as good, if not better, as I can expect for a 14 year old car.  The subframe was treated with dinitrol inside and out over 8 years ago and the whole underside of the car was treated with Hammerite underseal whilst up on the ramp at Steve's at D1 Customs 3 years ago. 

I was considering 'Sorning' the car next winter, but I've decided to keep it taxed and insured for a couple of reasons - I can use the car on sunny dry days which keeps things ticking over, and I've also got an extra car to use in an emergency - I've got aged parents who live 140 miles away!

The car is my pride and joy and it will never be sold in my lifetime, so I will do everything I can to keep it in A1 condition.  It was on the stand at the Classic Motor Show at the NEC a couple of weeks ago and attracted a huge amount of positive comments, so I must be doing something right.  Last week the hard top was put on, the cover was put on it and Trickle Charger attached and the car is now tucked up in the garage until we get a nice sunny dry day so I can take it out for a spin and put a smile on my face  :)

It sounds like you will be doing the same to the Green Goddess, so enjoy it  -  if I had a numberplate in your format, my number would be 56  ;) so I think we're in the same ballpark!!

MARK K - Original Owner/ \'Best In Class\' winner, \'Show n Shine\', MR2DC National Event 2017.

H1GRM

Nice one Mark,

Definitely on a similar wave length.

I want to get the Goddess treated underneath as well, need to replenish the vault first £££

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H1GRM

As Head Coach to a swim team I often attend competitions on a Saturday/Sunday. Nothing on today so decided it was a good day to do some Christmas shopping.

Weather was dry only a slight chance of wet stuff, so... time for the Goddess to emerge for the 2nd time in 2 days. Top down over to Stamford and back via Spalding not another 2 to flash at either way but had FUN!!!!
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