Southern Belle

1979scotte · November 10, 2020, 12:08

Reckon I've got the heaviest of any of the regular members.
Was 1070kg when I bought it. With supercharger gubbins and extra bracing must be around 1120 now.

Joesson · November 10, 2020, 15:22

Quote from: 1979scotte on November 10, 2020, 12:08Reckon I've got the heaviest of any of the regular members.
Was 1070kg when I bought it. With supercharger gubbins and extra bracing must be around 1120 now.

I apologise, I had to read the first line twice.

Petrus · November 23, 2020, 17:27

1.1 kg. is not too bad as they shoúld make a noticeable difference on the PFL.
Not tempted to clean them up a bit; they will look OEM when fitted as they are.
Hope to get round to it at the end of the week.

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Petrus · December 2, 2020, 18:05

Fitted.
Hopefully it´s something noticeable...

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Petrus · December 17, 2020, 19:35

Today could not resist it; took the AC pump and leads off; 6 kg. Packing it all and the belt nicely so I can bolt it back if needed.

Whitelines have arrived.
When I have the front on stands want to take the washer bottle out.

Nvy · December 17, 2020, 21:46

Quote from: Petrus on December 2, 2020, 18:05Fitted.
Hopefully it´s something noticeable...

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Did you notice any difference?

Petrus · December 17, 2020, 22:08

Quote from: Nvy on December 17, 2020, 21:46
Quote from: Petrus on December 2, 2020, 18:05Fitted.
Hopefully it´s something noticeable...

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Did you notice any difference?

Yes; best described as noticeably more direct feedback from the rear wheels. Inspires confidence.
More so on wet than dry road which is ... quite níce ;-)

Petrus · December 19, 2020, 15:24

The Whiteline sway bars are under.
Set them to the stiffnes of the Sportivo bars, in effect completing the TRD Sportivo kit, subframe spacers and lower control arm braces included.
The handling is véry nice now. The car corners a lót flatter yet still comfortable and the already very good balance has imo much improved: The whole suspension frequency has increased but the rear double that of the front, making the rear noticeably quicker and more responsive. Because the directness of the feedback has improved, it is véry confidence inspiring.

Chuffed indeed. Chassis and handling wise it ss now as I like.
Hoping to add a bit more lightness still ofcurse....

Also hope to do a back to back with a completely stock car to more clearly notice the difference.

FredyCro · December 19, 2020, 17:46

Quote from: Petrus on December 19, 2020, 15:24The Whiteline sway bars are under.
Set them to the stiffnes of the Sportivo bars, in effect completing the TRD Sportivo kit, subframe spacers and lower control arm braces included.
The handling is véry nice now. The car corners a lót flatter yet still comfortable and the already very good balance has imo much improved: The whole suspension frequency has increased but the rear double that of the front, making the rear noticeably quicker and more responsive. Because the directness of the feedback has improved, it is véry confidence inspiring.

Chuffed indeed. Chassis and handling wise it ss now as I like.
Hoping to add a bit more lightness still ofcurse....

Also hope to do a back to back with a completely stock car to more clearly notice the difference.

what setup did you use for whitelines? I have softer front (1/2) and 3/4 towards full hard in the back.

Petrus · December 19, 2020, 18:08

Quote from: FredyCro on December 19, 2020, 17:46what setup did you use for whitelines? I have softer front (1/2) and 3/4 towards full hard in the back.

Hard front, softest rear.
As observed this matches the Sportivo kit.
With a different balance between the front and rear spring ratings the sway bar rates should too. Mine possibly needs a a whiff stiffer setting at the rear because of the added lightness.
See the sway bar thread in the performance section.

Petrus · December 29, 2020, 15:29

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Crash bar and empty bottle weigh just over 5 kg. Bottle holds over 4 l.

Ardent · December 29, 2020, 18:15

Had chance to drive it yet?
From discussions yesterday, you are going to feel that.

Petrus · December 29, 2020, 18:43

Quote from: Ardent on December 29, 2020, 18:15Had chance to drive it yet?
From discussions yesterday, you are going to feel that.

Will be out for some 150 kms of mountain roads over the pass to the coast and back.

Have a look on Google maps; first to Antequera and from there over the A-343 to Alora then coast and back over the A-357: Should tell me all a car cán tell ;-)

btw the plastic bag I will be fitting only weighs 150 gramm incl. pump.

Petrus · December 30, 2020, 12:01

and it works; 500 gramms

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Petrus · February 23, 2021, 15:27

And yet another bit of lightness added.
Faffing with the OBD2 port, took the plastic panel under the streering column off to check the connections.
Hardly visible, basically only providing the mounting for the port, I left it off; 403 gramms.

Not a lot but almost an lbs. sounds better than not half a kilo

Also is dóes add up.

Ardent · February 23, 2021, 20:20

A pound is a pound. Not to be dismissed. And certainly not when it comes off one's waist line.

Petrus · March 16, 2021, 10:00

Every little bit doés add up:

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Petrus · April 8, 2021, 21:12

Yessss; the first one is ready:

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Versus 330 gram.
Times 2; not bad

Petrus · April 29, 2021, 04:52

The second being printed

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Gibla · April 29, 2021, 11:30

Excuse me (up to Page 21....this is for my reference)

Epic read of car modifying for lightweight improvement and 'risque' stories ....most interesting + entertaining!

Petrus · April 29, 2021, 18:07

Thank you Sir.

You have almost arrived at the new ´normality´.
I have toned down my writing somewhat because of the more than somewhat subdued situation.
Modding has been continued* though ;-)

The delightfully bubbly latest flame has been, ís great fun but the photos a bit too risque for sharing anywhichway here.

* currently séven thingies on hand. Will share as I complete them.

Ah and the next nearest Bull is still on the agenda. Will try to keep the adult version only modestly so :-)

Petrus · April 30, 2021, 11:20

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ánd refitted the OEM cat.

Gibla · April 30, 2021, 13:15

Did you ever do your weight reduction guide for dummies? @Petrus - if so would you link here please as a reminder .

Seriously contemplating some weight reduction(this author would be a brilliant sp also :-)

spare wheel - done this am
pas pump
aircon
lighter wheels
lighter battery

fwiw. my 6sp FL has 1110 kg marked as its tare weight in the documentation (UK V5)

What savings would my relatively minor mods yield ?

Petrus · April 30, 2021, 13:21

Quote from: Gibla on April 30, 2021, 13:15Did you ever do your weight reduction guide for dummies? @Petrus - if so would you link here please as a reminder .

Open a thread on ´Performance mods´ and we will take it from there.

1979scotte · April 30, 2021, 13:22

Quote from: Gibla on April 30, 2021, 13:15Did you ever do your weight reduction guide for dummies? @Petrus - if so would you link here please as a reminder .

Seriously contemplating some weight reduction(this author would be a brilliant sp also :-)

spare wheel - done this am
pas pump
aircon
lighter wheels
lighter battery

fwiw. my 6sp FL has 1110 kg marked as its tare weight in the documentation (UK V5)

What savings would my relatively minor mods yield ?

A FL with AC shouldn't really weigh anymore than 1050kg.
My PFL V6 without spare and with lots of rust weighed in at 1070kg.
I reckon it weighs 1120 now with spare more bracing rotrex and less holes.