Latest AD08RS vs Latest TR1's or Nankangs.. pls vote!

Started by jvanzyl, September 7, 2020, 12:27

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Ardent

I feel you pain @jvanzyl

I'm starring down the same barrel with FL sizes.
What to go for next.

Carolyn

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thetyrant

Quote from: Topdownman on September  7, 2020, 12:46Someone recently posted about these;

https://www.zestino.eu/en/gredge-07rs/?mode=grid&limit=24&sort=popular&max=250&min=0&sort=popular&brand=0&filter%5B%5D=276812&filter%5B%5D=276815

I think they could be my next tyre as they seem to have a similar tread pattern to the yokos but with the softer compound.

It was simple for a while on tyre choice for me but no longer!

Thats me testing these Zestinos Gredge07RS :), so far im very impressed with road use only so far but wet or dry they just grip and grip!, even in deep standing water they are pretty respectable for a semi slick type tyre.

Ive still yet to try on track ( will be in 2 weeks) and also lifespan as is as yet unknown but they are pretty soft so not expecting huge mileage from them, im curious as to how the harder compound version is and may try those next.

So far i would say a worthy alternative/improvement on the AD08RS from what ive read about those! ...i loved the original AD08 but seems each revison has dropped the performance off :(
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1979scotte

Can't vote not used any of those tyres.
I'd forgotten Yoko had changed the AD08.
Thibk I'm with Carolyn I'd give Nangkang a try.
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jvanzyl

Quote from: 1979scotte on September  7, 2020, 15:41Can't vote not used any of those tyres.
I'd forgotten Yoko had changed the AD08.
Thibk I'm with Carolyn I'd give Nangkang a try.

You can't vote for something that doesn't fit PFL wheels! Dems the rulez...

jvanzyl

Quote from: thetyrant on September  7, 2020, 14:58
Quote from: Topdownman on September  7, 2020, 12:46Someone recently posted about these;

https://www.zestino.eu/en/gredge-07rs/?mode=grid&limit=24&sort=popular&max=250&min=0&sort=popular&brand=0&filter%5B%5D=276812&filter%5B%5D=276815

I think they could be my next tyre as they seem to have a similar tread pattern to the yokos but with the softer compound.

It was simple for a while on tyre choice for me but no longer!

Thats me testing these Zestinos Gredge07RS :), so far im very impressed with road use only so far but wet or dry they just grip and grip!, even in deep standing water they are pretty respectable for a semi slick type tyre.

Ive still yet to try on track ( will be in 2 weeks) and also lifespan as is as yet unknown but they are pretty soft so not expecting huge mileage from them, im curious as to how the harder compound version is and may try those next.

So far i would say a worthy alternative/improvement on the AD08RS from what ive read about those! ...i loved the original AD08 but seems each revison has dropped the performance off :(

So if you were to let your wife/partner drive it, would you be at all concerned for them on a heavy rainy day?

thetyrant

Quote from: jvanzyl on September  7, 2020, 16:11So if you were to let your wife/partner drive it, would you be at all concerned for them on a heavy rainy day?

Depends on your partner but if they have sense to drive to conditions, as in slow down a bit when its torrential weather then no issues at all, if they are someone who just drives ignoring weather/road conditions then Rainsports are your best bet..... or hide the keys :D

I pushed them pretty hard in very wet weather last week with no issues at all and as sure footed as the Bridgestones  on my BMW which are pretty decent in the wet, i didnt go out of my way to find the limit but driving briskly to get a feel for how they coped so i could give feedback on here and i never had a concern, that might change once tread wears a bit of course but then thats what you would expect.
Ex-2005 roadster  owner, i will be back :D

Petrus

Quote from: jvanzyl on September  7, 2020, 14:30No worries Petrus :-) You do make a good point regarding the cost of grip.. .what are your thoughts on the one's simon posted on? The Zestino Gredge's ?

My AD08R set is good for some time yet so I have the luxury of being able to wait for more feedback but if I would need a set nów, I have a set soft Gedges in 195 and 205.

Having deleted the p.a.s. assures no charming company is interested in driving the car ánd I can avoid the coldest and wettest conditions.

Petrus

Quote from: thetyrant on September  7, 2020, 14:58Thats me testing these Zestinos Gredge07RS :),

Have you found/determained anything about their operating temp. range?
The Nankang AR-1 rubber per example needs 70 degrees C. to start working properly. Under average road driving condition even here in summer that makes them léss grippy than their NS-2R stable mate.

s12vea

Quote from: jvanzyl on September  7, 2020, 13:48
Quote from: Carolyn on September  7, 2020, 13:10Unfortunately not... no experience of others - except rubbish ones!

Yup I can identify with that.. the car originally came with some "accelera" brand things.. it's how I become family with the term "ditch finders"..

Nankang tyres are the original ditch finder tyres
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steveash

The Yokohama A052 looks impressive. Available in close enough sizes I think.

Petrus

Quote from: steveash on September  7, 2020, 18:20The Yokohama A052 looks impressive. Available in close enough sizes I think.

They are 50% more expensive then the AD08RS and pretty much useless on the street.
It´s the equivalent of the R888R and AR-1; road legal but not useful.

Carolyn

Quote from: s12vea on September  7, 2020, 18:13
Quote from: jvanzyl on September  7, 2020, 13:48
Quote from: Carolyn on September  7, 2020, 13:10Unfortunately not... no experience of others - except rubbish ones!

Yup I can identify with that.. the car originally came with some "accelera" brand things.. it's how I become family with the term "ditch finders"..

Nankang tyres are the original ditch finder tyres

Could not disagree more. They are very sticky.  Have you actually tried NS20's?
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thetyrant

Quote from: Petrus on September  7, 2020, 17:13
Quote from: thetyrant on September  7, 2020, 14:58Thats me testing these Zestinos Gredge07RS :),

Have you found/determained anything about their operating temp. range?
The Nankang AR-1 rubber per example needs 70 degrees C. to start working properly. Under average road driving condition even here in summer that makes them léss grippy than their NS-2R stable mate.

Zestinos work well from cold :)  although i dont push the car hard from cold so not a definitive answer but will soon find out at sprint on 20th were its 1 lap against the clock with cold tyres, this is why ive chosen these tyres as best chance of being able to push hard from the off, R888 i always found good for that in past as well but not tried the newer compound.

AR1 need way to much warming up for a sprint event and why i didnt get them, that and the lack of tread cuts and price!
Ex-2005 roadster  owner, i will be back :D

s12vea

Quote from: Carolyn on September  7, 2020, 19:14
Quote from: s12vea on September  7, 2020, 18:13
Quote from: jvanzyl on September  7, 2020, 13:48
Quote from: Carolyn on September  7, 2020, 13:10Unfortunately not... no experience of others - except rubbish ones!

Yup I can identify with that.. the car originally came with some "accelera" brand things.. it's how I become family with the term "ditch finders"..

Nankang tyres are the original ditch finder tyres

Could not disagree more. They are very sticky.  Have you actually tried NS20's?
yes I've had them on a front wheel drive hot hatch, I've always classed Them as a ditch finders and terrible in the wet.
Don't get me wrong there is often a time and place for cheap tyres and I wouldn't say on a rear wheel drive sports car.
I know you have had great experience with them but I wouldn't fit them on any car of mine.
TF204 Blue
Another one won't hurt  .....

jvanzyl

Many thanks to everyone for their input - as it stands we have lots of comments, but with only 8 votes cast it's between the Toyos and the Yoko's.. thankfully I managed to get my repaired yesterday, so my Toyo's set get to fight another day.

When it comes to nenewing I'm thinking I'm going to go down the Zestino route, as I have a set of winter tyres when it gets colder, and I look forward to some epic traction with those things. Anywho - thanks to all who contributed!

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