Mid Night Car Special - Caution Wake Turbulence

Started by Mariorcross, November 17, 2020, 13:26

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1979scotte

Quote from: Bossworld on November 20, 2020, 15:05
Quote from: Mariorcross on November 20, 2020, 15:03Thank you all for the advice and thank you @SoloNomad for the link. There was an issue with low coolant in previous MOT which I worry could be a head gasket issue or other engine issue. As I would like to drive the car spiritidly I really worry about the engine popping. Apart from that the car does look like it's been looked after. I've messaged the guy and waiting for his reply as it's only down the road (45m drive) from my little village. Fingers crossed.

The coolant level on these cars can go up and down for very little apparent reason / no visible leak. I know that sounds like it's defying the laws of physics and hopefully someone understands what causes the visible level in the expansion tank to change better than I do.



The fact that it takes more coolant and has longer coolant hoses than any car I've ever had?
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Joesson

Having experienced the yo yo effect of the water level in the expansion tank I suggest that this is a symptom of air in the system. If the system is bled thoroughly the yo yo effect is greatly reduced and any difference in levels is then the result only of the effects of pressure and temperature in the system affecting the volume/ level.

Bossworld

Quote from: Mariorcross on November 20, 2020, 15:13Thank you for the heads up. What do you think I should offer for the car?

As someone currently selling a car I think only you can decide whether it's what you're willing to pay. As mentioned by SV-3, the bottom and 'normal' top (not portacabin dealers trying their luck at £6k) is very small. Also take into account how much you value your time and how far you've got to travel in a pandemic ;)

Looking at it holistically, how long has it been on the market, do you think the price is fair and how much are you actually going to miss another £50 or £100 if you don't think they've added extra on to allow for bargaining?

Joesson

Quote from: 1979scotte on November 20, 2020, 16:06
Quote from: Bossworld on November 20, 2020, 15:05
Quote from: Mariorcross on November 20, 2020, 15:03Thank you all for the advice and thank you @SoloNomad for the link. There was an issue with low coolant in previous MOT which I worry could be a head gasket issue or other engine issue. As I would like to drive the car spiritidly I really worry about the engine popping. Apart from that the car does look like it's been looked after. I've messaged the guy and waiting for his reply as it's only down the road (45m drive) from my little village. Fingers crossed.

The coolant level on these cars can go up and down for very little apparent reason / no visible leak. I know that sounds like it's defying the laws of physics and hopefully someone understands what causes the visible level in the expansion tank to change better than I do.



The fact that it takes more coolant and has longer coolant hoses than any car I've ever had?


That is, perhaps, why our cars are considered cool.

SoloNomad

#29
Only you can decide if it's something you want and what you'll be happy to pay. Just give it a good going over, maybe take some photos or notes and ask some advice on here, don't get carried away with excitment just make sure it's what you want. Compare with some others maybe - a quick look on facebook marketplace brings up some for sale in Hastings (blue 2004 which looks quite nice), Horsham, Eastbourne and Littlehampton all at similar prices .... go-compare!  :)
And then one day you find, ten years have got behind you ...

Mariorcross

#30
Thanks @SoloNomad for the lead to Facebook marketplace. I'll have a look at it this evening as the one in Chichester is not responding to my Facebook messages and I would prefer a 2004 as it will have 6 gears which is something I want after driving 4/5 gear bangers id like to treat myself. May I ask for a link to the marketplace as there are so many I don't know which one you are referring to. Thank you in advance

Joesson


SoloNomad

#32
Quote from: Mariorcross on November 20, 2020, 22:45Thanks @SoloNomad for the lead to Facebook marketplace. I'll have a look at it this evening as the one in Chichester is not responding to my Facebook messages and I would prefer a 2004 as it will have 6 gears which is something I want after driving 4/5 gear bangers id like to treat myself. May I ask for a link to the marketplace as there are so many I don't know which one you are referring to. Thank you in advance

Hi, I'll see if I can sort a link out for you soon, I'll just need to get on my main pc. As for the one you messaged don't forget not everyone is glued to their devices or get alerts to messages so be patient for a response, I turned off faceache messaged ages ago as I'd get lots of crap about someone eating a sandwich or pointless life affirmations. As for marketplace I just searched for 'mr2' and had my distance set to about 30 miles, that blue 04 is in Hastings so it's closer to me, you might have to widen your search area.
And then one day you find, ten years have got behind you ...

SoloNomad

Link sent.

One thing I noticed about the blue 04 I mentioned is that the exhaust is a single pipe exiting from the right side of the car - I thought all single tip exhausts came out the left on MR2s could someone more knowledable know about this ?
And then one day you find, ten years have got behind you ...

1979scotte

Quote from: Mariorcross on November 20, 2020, 22:45Thanks @SoloNomad for the lead to Facebook marketplace. I'll have a look at it this evening as the one in Chichester is not responding to my Facebook messages and I would prefer a 2004 as it will have 6 gears which is something I want after driving 4/5 gear bangers id like to treat myself. May I ask for a link to the marketplace as there are so many I don't know which one you are referring to. Thank you in advance

There are FL cars earlier than 2004.
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Joesson

Quote from: SoloNomad on November 21, 2020, 07:46Link sent.

One thing I noticed about the blue 04 I mentioned is that the exhaust is a single pipe exiting from the right side of the car - I thought all single tip exhausts came out the left on MR2s could someone more knowledable know about this ?

That is likely an aftermarket exhaust as you are correct, the OE single exhaust exit is on the left.

Mariorcross

I'm going to view it Monday at  midday. They said battery is flat and will need a jump so already worrying me. Is there anyone that could come with me on Monday to help me view it as I don't want to buy a dog. Thanks

Joesson

I suggest that a new battery and tyres are common items to factor in when considering a used car.
This seller has prewarned you that the battery is flat, perhaps not unreasonable in the current circumstances.
One 2 that I viewed (in 2011) I found to be connected up to a RAC break down vehicle, the operator being the 2's owner.
It is said never buy a used car from a mechanic, and there being other signs of neglect I passed on that one. But you have to open a few oysters to find a pearl.

1979scotte

Quote from: Mariorcross on November 21, 2020, 13:58I'm going to view it Monday at  midday. They said battery is flat and will need a jump so already worrying me. Is there anyone that could come with me on Monday to help me view it as I don't want to buy a dog. Thanks

Can you list the positive points of this car please?
Who tries to sell a car that isn't running?
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1979scotte

Quote from: Joesson on November 21, 2020, 14:28I suggest that a new battery and tyres are common items to factor in when considering a used car.
This seller has prewarned you that the battery is flat, perhaps not unreasonable in the current circumstances.
One 2 that I viewed (in 2011) I found to be connected up to a RAC break down vehicle, the operator being the 2's owner.
It is said never buy a used car from a mechanic, and there being other signs of neglect I passed on that one. But you have to open a few oysters to find a pearl.


Can't agree they have 2 days to charge it or it it jump started its ridiculous.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

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SoloNomad

#40
Quote from: Mariorcross on November 21, 2020, 13:58I'm going to view it Monday at  midday. They said battery is flat and will need a jump so already worrying me. Is there anyone that could come with me on Monday to help me view it as I don't want to buy a dog. Thanks

Is this the one in Hastings?

This is basically the ad:
This car is a lovely car, been well looked after by owners, in very good condition  very clean inside and out, 
It currently has 1 years mot
Had all new brakes done
All new cables done
All new bulbs
All new tyres
look no further this car is lovely to drive


Is it ok to put a link to a facebook ad up here on the forum???

Mine had a flat battery when I looked at it, it was a dealer and they had a booster and I've since charged the battery and it's fine now ... maybe they don't have a charger?

If I was available I'd pop along but I'm working. There was a long list of things to check when looking at these cars, anyone know where it is I can't remember where I found it, might help.


Edit: Doh, it's in the first sticky in the 'welcome new members' bit!
And then one day you find, ten years have got behind you ...

Mariorcross

I asked them to charge it but they don't have a charger. Yes its that one. Getting a bit bemused from the search as there are so many bad examples where people should be asking less than £1k but want £2k plus. Finding this pearl is much harder than I thought. My tight budget is what's restricting me. One came up on eBay today advertised for 3.5k but he'll take 3k. It looks really good I just can't stretch out to that atm.

Topdownman

Not read the first part of the thread about this car but I agree with Scott, that does sound dodgy doesnt it? If it needs a jump start (which would probably mean a new battery if its been left discharged for a long time), why didnt they ask you if they could jump start off your car?

I always judge the owners as well as the car and look out for any warning signs of a story that doesnt ring true. Ask them if they have the reg document that you can view. If they dont show it to you then it could be because it is a CAT D/N (or whatever they are now called).

Make sure you have read the buyers guide too.

Normally my advice is to drive as many as you can to get a feel for them as the good ones will jump out at you. In a pandemic though, not sure what to say! (Take lots of hand gel with you?).

Try not to get fixated on what you think you "need" in the car and keep an open mind.
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Joesson

Quote from: 1979scotte on November 21, 2020, 14:46
Quote from: Joesson on November 21, 2020, 14:28I suggest that a new battery and tyres are common items to factor in when considering a used car.
This seller has prewarned you that the battery is flat, perhaps not unreasonable in the current circumstances.
One 2 that I viewed (in 2011) I found to be connected up to a RAC break down vehicle, the operator being the 2's owner.
It is said never buy a used car from a mechanic, and there being other signs of neglect I passed on that one. But you have to open a few oysters to find a pearl.


Can't agree they have 2 days to charge it or it it jump started its ridiculous.

As has since been said the seller does not have a charger, so not a lot of point jump starting it now when the OP is viewing on Monday.
The seller has advised the prospective purchaser of a fault, the battery is flat.
The seller could have said nothing until the buyer arrived. Doesn't seem to me that the seller is hiding that fact.
As I said, "in current circumstances", the seller should not go out and buy a charger or a new battery, unessential travel. As is buying a car but that is another story.

1979scotte

Quote from: Joesson on November 21, 2020, 16:45
Quote from: 1979scotte on November 21, 2020, 14:46
Quote from: Joesson on November 21, 2020, 14:28I suggest that a new battery and tyres are common items to factor in when considering a used car.
This seller has prewarned you that the battery is flat, perhaps not unreasonable in the current circumstances.
One 2 that I viewed (in 2011) I found to be connected up to a RAC break down vehicle, the operator being the 2's owner.
It is said never buy a used car from a mechanic, and there being other signs of neglect I passed on that one. But you have to open a few oysters to find a pearl.


Can't agree they have 2 days to charge it or it it jump started its ridiculous.

As has since been said the seller does not have a charger, so not a lot of point jump starting it now when the OP is viewing on Monday.
The seller has advised the prospective purchaser of a fault, the battery is flat.
The seller could have said nothing until the buyer arrived. Doesn't seem to me that the seller is hiding that fact.
As I said, "in current circumstances", the seller should not go out and buy a charger or a new battery, unessential travel. As is buying a car but that is another story.

Car maintenance is essential tony that's why all the mechanics are open.
Sorry mate if selling a car make sure it starts. How can you have faith in battery or alternator in these circumstances.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Free Ukraine 🇺🇦

Joesson

Quote from: 1979scotte on November 21, 2020, 17:43
Quote from: Joesson on November 21, 2020, 16:45
Quote from: 1979scotte on November 21, 2020, 14:46
Quote from: Joesson on November 21, 2020, 14:28I suggest that a new battery and tyres are common items to factor in when considering a used car.
This seller has prewarned you that the battery is flat, perhaps not unreasonable in the current circumstances.
One 2 that I viewed (in 2011) I found to be connected up to a RAC break down vehicle, the operator being the 2's owner.
It is said never buy a used car from a mechanic, and there being other signs of neglect I passed on that one. But you have to open a few oysters to find a pearl.


Can't agree they have 2 days to charge it or it it jump started its ridiculous.

As has since been said the seller does not have a charger, so not a lot of point jump starting it now when the OP is viewing on Monday.
The seller has advised the prospective purchaser of a fault, the battery is flat.
The seller could have said nothing until the buyer arrived. Doesn't seem to me that the seller is hiding that fact.
As I said, "in current circumstances", the seller should not go out and buy a charger or a new battery, unessential travel. As is buying a car but that is another story.

Car maintenance is essential tony that's why all the mechanics are open.
Sorry mate if selling a car make sure it starts. How can you have faith in battery or alternator in these circumstances.

What if, the car is otherwise as described, the seller could be just naive not a car sharp. A replacement  battery, replacement alternator, new ancillary belt while your at it Ca £215 so offer £250 off asking  price.

1979scotte

Quote from: Joesson on November 21, 2020, 18:39
Quote from: 1979scotte on November 21, 2020, 17:43
Quote from: Joesson on November 21, 2020, 16:45
Quote from: 1979scotte on November 21, 2020, 14:46
Quote from: Joesson on November 21, 2020, 14:28I suggest that a new battery and tyres are common items to factor in when considering a used car.
This seller has prewarned you that the battery is flat, perhaps not unreasonable in the current circumstances.
One 2 that I viewed (in 2011) I found to be connected up to a RAC break down vehicle, the operator being the 2's owner.
It is said never buy a used car from a mechanic, and there being other signs of neglect I passed on that one. But you have to open a few oysters to find a pearl.


Can't agree they have 2 days to charge it or it it jump started its ridiculous.

As has since been said the seller does not have a charger, so not a lot of point jump starting it now when the OP is viewing on Monday.
The seller has advised the prospective purchaser of a fault, the battery is flat.
The seller could have said nothing until the buyer arrived. Doesn't seem to me that the seller is hiding that fact.
As I said, "in current circumstances", the seller should not go out and buy a charger or a new battery, unessential travel. As is buying a car but that is another story.

Car maintenance is essential tony that's why all the mechanics are open.
Sorry mate if selling a car make sure it starts. How can you have faith in battery or alternator in these circumstances.

What if, the car is otherwise as described, the seller could be just naive not a car sharp. A replacement  battery, replacement alternator, new ancillary belt while your at it Ca £215 so offer £250 off asking  price.

Anything is possible
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Free Ukraine 🇺🇦

Joesson

Quote from: 1979scotte on November 21, 2020, 19:17
Quote from: Joesson on November 21, 2020, 18:39
Quote from: 1979scotte on November 21, 2020, 17:43
Quote from: Joesson on November 21, 2020, 16:45
Quote from: 1979scotte on November 21, 2020, 14:46
Quote from: Joesson on November 21, 2020, 14:28I suggest that a new battery and tyres are common items to factor in when considering a used car.
This seller has prewarned you that the battery is flat, perhaps not unreasonable in the current circumstances.
One 2 that I viewed (in 2011) I found to be connected up to a RAC break down vehicle, the operator being the 2's owner.
It is said never buy a used car from a mechanic, and there being other signs of neglect I passed on that one. But you have to open a few oysters to find a pearl.


Can't agree they have 2 days to charge it or it it jump started its ridiculous.

As has since been said the seller does not have a charger, so not a lot of point jump starting it now when the OP is viewing on Monday.
The seller has advised the prospective purchaser of a fault, the battery is flat.
The seller could have said nothing until the buyer arrived. Doesn't seem to me that the seller is hiding that fact.
As I said, "in current circumstances", the seller should not go out and buy a charger or a new battery, unessential travel. As is buying a car but that is another story.

Car maintenance is essential tony that's why all the mechanics are open.
Sorry mate if selling a car make sure it starts. How can you have faith in battery or alternator in these circumstances.

What if, the car is otherwise as described, the seller could be just naive not a car sharp. A replacement  battery, replacement alternator, new ancillary belt while your at it Ca £215 so offer £250 off asking  price.

Anything is possible


Even flying pigs, but that's another story.

Mariorcross

#48
I've been spending almost a year looking for an MR2 and really want a facelift version, low mileage, with a hardtop but at a budget of £2k to 2.5k I've found a few but lockdown means I can't travel. So I thought I want to have one as ive waited too long and until I find my perfect life car I thought I'd get one as a temporary car so I can start driving it and enjoying it when lockdown is lifted.

Today I picked up an MR2 that will introduce me into this world of mid-engine rear wheel drive cars. After watching Initial D the movie last night as motivation I went just down the road to pick one up. I've taken a bit of a risk but I think it's worth it.

My temporary beauty is a 2001 Japanese import MR-S with 57k miles, softtop in mint condition, subframe is almost new (no rust), underneath minimal rust, no rust in the engine bay, no visable oil leaks, no weird sounds during test drive, Toyo Proxies that are hardly used. Bad points were there is no original stereo and during the test drive the clutch bite point was very high and clutch was slipping.

One question I have was I have to press down the clutch to start engine whether in gear or not? Is this normal?

I've found a mobile mechanic that will do it for £175 labour only so I'm looking for a new clutch kit. I'll read the forums but if anyone can guide me should I change the flywheel at the same time? Also should I get an OEM Toyota clutch kit or an aftermarket one? Engine will not be upgraded with power so I was thinking the LUK from carparts4less. Not sure the difference as there are 2 sizes so I'll call Toyota Monday for part number.

I'm super excited as I really felt I was driving a sports car even though I drove 50MPH all the way home as I want to check everything and get a new clutch before a more spirited drive. I'm hooked.

Here are some pictures of my temporary baby. Hope you like it.

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