What does the mr2 miss??

[Petrus]

That doesn't count! Your passengers don't wear clothes!

Aye and I have the photos to proove it LOLZ.

[Ardent]

As someone who runs a permanent hard top i wish it had a proper roof as previous models.

GT86?

[Petrus]

As someone who runs a permanent hard top i wish it had a proper roof as previous models.

GT86?

Taking out the softtop and fitting Snelbaard´s brackets does the trick. Again don´t see the issue.

[Ardent]

As someone who runs a permanent hard top i wish it had a proper roof as previous models.

@Ardent
This one is beyond redemption.

Came on here to cheer myself up. Hey ho.
That said, even a step too far, for @SV-3 that cheered me up.

[Petrus]

Came on here to cheer myself up. Hey ho.
That said, even a step too far, for @SV-3 that cheered me up.

The nude passengers did not ??!!

[Ardent]

They weren't my passengers.  

[Karthoum]

As someone who runs a permanent hard top i wish it had a proper roof as previous models.

GT86?

Not mid-engine and 10x more expensive, can't even consider it close.

Perhaps I am missing the consumer market the MR2 roadster is targeted at? Presumably the single, unattached owner?

My criticism of the lack of storage space was assuming the car was, as designed, carrying a driver and passenger and as it came out of the showroom. If I had realised that to carry anything you had to leave the passenger, spare wheel and locker doors at home to utilise every available inch of space to get the weekly shopping in, I wouldn't have bothered to query the issue.

Perhaps I should have said the thing the MR2 misses is the ability to carry a passenger and spare wheel when going to Le Mans for a camping weekend.

I am definitely not the main target audience, but I carry a passenger 90% of times and the spare wheel is in the frunk as I keep forgetting to take it out. Everything for me goes behind the seats where the soft top used to be, surprisingly loads of room that way, even if it doesn't look like it.

[Bossworld]

Other than Pat are many using theirs as a daily then?

[1979scotte]

Other than Pat are many using theirs as a daily then?

@BahnStormer and @jvanzyl i think use theirs to commute and maybe @StuC .
Certainly did before covid

[Petrus]

Other than Pat are many using theirs as a daily then?

Define ´daily´.
It is my ´daily transport´ but do not commute.
I share my life with two loves and most kms I make are between the two homes with detours for practical stuff. Second km maker is drives with one to go out. Well, cáme; this year is a pity, only two long weekends away with the itsybity spyder.
So I basically always have an ´overnighter´ in the cubby or in the passenger footwell.

[Bossworld]

Other than Pat are many using theirs as a daily then?

Define ´daily´.
It is my ´daily transport´ but do not commute.

If you needed to go to a supermarket, IKEA, lengthy airport run or A.N. Other, do you have an alternative car to avoid having to be overly imaginative with packing and removing seats.

Would be my definition. Which then renders some of the shortcomings less relevant to some of us.

I used to use mine for a twice a week commute, going to the gym/swimming pool four times a week and the occasional supermarket shop. If I only had the one car I think I'd have struggled more.

Which then harks back to the other conversations regarding weekend/track toys.

[jvanzyl]

Yeah it's basically my daily commute car if I go in to the office... got other cars to manage physical things that are too big

[1979scotte]

Other than Pat are many using theirs as a daily then?

Define ´daily´.
It is my ´daily transport´ but do not commute.

If you needed to go to a supermarket, IKEA, lengthy airport run or A.N. Other, do you have an alternative car to avoid having to be overly imaginative with packing and removing seats.

Would be my definition. Which then renders some of the shortcomings less relevant to some of us.

I used to use mine for a twice a week commute, going to the gym/swimming pool four times a week and the occasional supermarket shop. If I only had the one car I think I'd have struggled more.

Which then harks back to the other conversations regarding weekend/track toys.

I  regards to this I have access to many vehicles but in the past have had the 2 as my only car and did press it into service when going to sainsbury. It can be done but it's much easier now I have my focus estate.

[Petrus]

It can be done but it's much easier now I have my focus estate.

Tried to fold back the roof of the estate?  :-)

Point is that there are horses for courses.

There are quite a few five seater cabrios too, but do you réally want to be able to take along the grandparents in you fun cabrio?!

The itsybitsy spyder is about mid engined cornering fun. See it as a better mannered Elise. It is imo quite quick enough for that and (with the bubby lids out) has plenty of luggage space for a romantic long weekend away.

Want hi-fi sound, then it is the wrong car; too much noise as base level.
Want to do the week´s shopping for the orphanage; get a van.
Now, the SSangYong Rodius with 4x4, 2.9 TD and automatic does just about all but drop the roof down but... have you séén it!!! The Spyder nails the looks too imo. Ok, so it compromises with the ´pactical´ stuff; tant pis.

 

[AJRFulton]

As others have said - it needs a bit more power. The 2ZZ conversion is where the car should have been out of the factory. That lack of power is what prevents the car being a modern classic.

It would have been an absolutely amazing car if it was launched with similar performance to a VX220 and a slightly better suspension.

That said a bit of money spent on it, and it's one of the cheapest ways you can have a fairly serious track car. Bearing in mind a VX220 or an Elise costs (at least) £10k. Spending £10k on buying and modifying an MR2 it would be a serious bit of track kit.

[StuC]

Other than Pat are many using theirs as a daily then?

@BahnStormer and @jvanzyl i think use theirs to commute and maybe @StuC .
Certainly did before covid

Yup, pre-covid Banana was a daily drive. She has been for 8 years.
Perfect runabout for me.

[Petrus]

As others have said - it needs a bit more power. The 2ZZ conversion is where the car should have been out of the factory. That lack of power is what prevents the car being a modern classic.

I disagree on two counts:
1. it is becoming a modern classic regardless
2. the 1ZZ-FE is a múch nicer engine and I think the off the shelf TRD supercharger option offered for this engine in the Corolla and the Vibe would have been thé ticket

Toyota did not and instead gave TTE the green light to develop a turbo for the MR2.
The weirdest thing of all is that while Toyota did not offer their exísting kit for the MR2, TTE díd develop a supercharged Corolla for 2006- which thus outfitted cost 33.600 €uros; more than the base price of a 2021 Yaris GR!!

[scm2004red]

As others have said - it needs a bit more power. The 2ZZ conversion is where the car should have been out of the factory. That lack of power is what prevents the car being a modern classic.

Power doesn't make a modern classic, the early MX4+1 and MGF are already in that category and are similarly powered to the MR2, it is the appeal of the car to the classic buying public. For what it is worth, Practical Classics magazine have now listed the MR2 MK3 in their classic price guide, and in a comparison test between the MX, MG and MR2 recently in the magazine, the MR2 came 3rd, simply because of the lack of luggage space!

[Ardent]

As someone who runs a permanent hard top i wish it had a proper roof as previous models.

GT86?

Not mid-engine and 10x more expensive, can't even consider it close.

Seems to me, depends on the starting point. And what is the priority. 105e has a HT on full time. So that seems an important thing to them. That being so. Why buy a soft top car.
Fiat X19?
As much as I like the GT86. I would not buy one because it lacks a soft top.
The mid engine bit was not even on the radar as a consideration when I bought my 2.
Might start another thread. What are peoples top considerations when choosing a car. Sub heading? compromises prepared to make?

[105e]

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Seems to me, depends on the starting point. And what is the priority. 105e has a HT on full time. So that seems an important thing to them. That being so. Why buy a soft top car.
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[Ardent]

To sell like any other accessory.

[Joesson]

Indeed, thus increasing the potential market.
Also a soft top with an optional hard top is a better proposition than a Targa top that is neither one or the other.

[Petrus]

between the MX, MG and MR2 recently in the magazine, the MR2 came 3rd, simply because of the lack of luggage space!

Silly to the power of silly illustrated; like you buy a classic car for hauling the shopping. If anything it is a plus for a classic as it gives one a valid argument to have a classic luggage rack on the rear deck.
Ah well, all the better for the dríving enthusiasts ;-)

[AJRFulton]

between the MX, MG and MR2 recently in the magazine, the MR2 came 3rd, simply because of the lack of luggage space!

Silly to the power of silly illustrated; like you buy a classic car for hauling the shopping. If anything it is a plus for a classic as it gives one a valid argument to have a classic luggage rack on the rear deck.
Ah well, all the better for the dríving enthusiasts ;-)

I did have a 370Z a few years ago - which was a flawed car.

However it did my tits in that every review scored the car down for lack of luggage space. Same with things like the Elise - nobody cares about lack of luggage space when buying these cars.

[Petrus]

However it did my tits in that every review scored the car down for lack of luggage space. Same with things like the Elise - nobody cares about lack of luggage space when buying these cars.

I always think how often the luggage space ís an issue. Is it really worth it to have a trunk or rear hatch for that áll of the time or is a temporary rack on the back not more sense?!
I mean what is more important mid-engine all the time or trunk space occasionally needed?

Btw.loading up a trunk totally ruins the handling. Have you read thát anywhere?! Strapping one on the rack above the rear axle is not a tuning mod. either but at least you have a solid argument for minimalism, for the minimum literal burden on the driving fun.

Mind; I have emphatically NOT mentioned the luggage rack option to any charming company :-)