Turbo Troubleshooting

[mr9]

My new has passed its MOT and only has a few things that need sorting now.

I need to drive it from the UK to Croatia,1100 miles, probably this weekend but unfortunately had to isolate this week until Friday.

While travel restrictions are easing it still looks like if I don't drive it over now it could be June or July before I next get a change to drive out over.



It's not sensible to rely on it for such a long journey. But these are strange times and my head says if it can handle a trip to Dover on the motorway it will handle another 1000 miles say at 70, with regular checks for the oil level.



Any thoughts? (On top of 16 hours drive in one day being far from ideal)

[shnazzle]

What's wrong with it again? Just so I don't need to hunt for your other posts?

First thought of course is that if the car is damaging itself as you drive it, then you're better off sorting it or you'll have a scrapper by the time it gets home

[mr9]

What's wrong with it again? Just so I don't need to hunt for your other posts?

First thought of course is that if the car is damaging itself as you drive it, then you're better off sorting it or you'll have a scrapper by the time it gets home

Perhaps I should have added to my readers ride, apologies https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?topic=69199.0


In summary, nothing known is wrong with it, but it's done 5 miles to the MOT center and back since the turbo was installed on my driveway by me, and RRR tuned it.

I've left it here to be tuned, dropping it off at RRRengineering the night before my flight as I now live abroad 1000 miles away.

I'm back in the UK and intended to drive it for a week before making the journey back and have my car for the summer, but had to isolate for 12 out of 14 days here.




So the question is - for a new turbo build - are the likely teething problems going to be catastrophic and leave me stranded in France? What would people recommend I check?

Am I being crazy driving it 1000 miles with 1 day for a test run?

[s12vea]

If you have European breakdown cover the trip shouldn't be a worry, even if you purchased just for the trip.
Check everything before you leave and take it steady and I'm sure you would reach your destination

[Gaz2405]

I'd just do a quick nut and bolt check, to make sure nothing has worked loose before you set off if you're driving it around for a week first.

It should be fine though I would have thought if it's been tuned properly, although I do hear that the pottering around town tune sometimes needs work from Rrr.

[mr9]

I'd just do a quick nut and bolt check, to make sure nothing has worked loose before you set off if you're driving it around for a week first.

It should be fine though I would have thought if it's been tuned properly, although I do hear that the pottering around town tune sometimes needs work from Rrr.

Yeah - it did need quite a few adjustments to the map to get through the MOT.

I think it's likely I'll have small oil and coolant leaks so will need to stop every few hours to check them. If the water charge cooler leaks loads I can even just top that up with tap water and the intake temps wouldn't be too bad for cruising even with complete failure.


I'll try and wire in the Bluetooth adapter  so I can keep and eye on temps etc.

Cruise at low boost/zero boost shouldn't put any stress on the internals or gearbox.

[shnazzle]

Agreed. Check all nuts and bolts of the install and get an app to monitor at least AFR (guessing you got the extra EDF-1 datalogger /Bluetooth module.
If not, a separate AFR gauge?
You're going to see a lot of changes in elevation and temperature so you're going to be exposing a hell of a lot of potentially rough areas in the map. Hell I had plenty just in the UK.
Should be fine.

[mr9]

Agreed. Check all nuts and bolts of the install and get an app to monitor at least AFR (guessing you got the extra EDF-1 datalogger /Bluetooth module.
If not, a separate AFR gauge?
You're going to see a lot of changes in elevation and temperature so you're going to be exposing a hell of a lot of potentially rough areas in the map. Hell I had plenty just in the UK.
Should be fine.

I forgot to add the data logger first time round so have ordered it in the post - I'm hoping it's plug and play.


Yes my main worry is going through the Alps. I think I'll be slowly climbing with the hgvs to be safe and hoping for a cool day this first time round.

[shnazzle]

Agreed. Check all nuts and bolts of the install and get an app to monitor at least AFR (guessing you got the extra EDF-1 datalogger /Bluetooth module.
If not, a separate AFR gauge?
You're going to see a lot of changes in elevation and temperature so you're going to be exposing a hell of a lot of potentially rough areas in the map. Hell I had plenty just in the UK.
Should be fine.

I forgot to add the data logger first time round so have ordered it in the post - I'm hoping it's plug and play.


Yes my main worry is going through the Alps. I think I'll be slowly climbing with the hgvs to be safe and hoping for a cool day this first time round.

Unfortunately not plug/play but wiring didn't look too hard.

[mr9]

Agreed. Check all nuts and bolts of the install and get an app to monitor at least AFR (guessing you got the extra EDF-1 datalogger /Bluetooth module.
If not, a separate AFR gauge?
You're going to see a lot of changes in elevation and temperature so you're going to be exposing a hell of a lot of potentially rough areas in the map. Hell I had plenty just in the UK.
Should be fine.

I forgot to add the data logger first time round so have ordered it in the post - I'm hoping it's plug and play.


Yes my main worry is going through the Alps. I think I'll be slowly climbing with the hgvs to be safe and hoping for a cool day this first time round.

Unfortunately not plug/play but wiring didn't look too hard.

Damn it.

Thanks

[shnazzle]

Agreed. Check all nuts and bolts of the install and get an app to monitor at least AFR (guessing you got the extra EDF-1 datalogger /Bluetooth module.
If not, a separate AFR gauge?
You're going to see a lot of changes in elevation and temperature so you're going to be exposing a hell of a lot of potentially rough areas in the map. Hell I had plenty just in the UK.
Should be fine.

I forgot to add the data logger first time round so have ordered it in the post - I'm hoping it's plug and play.


Yes my main worry is going through the Alps. I think I'll be slowly climbing with the hgvs to be safe and hoping for a cool day this first time round.

Unfortunately not plug/play but wiring didn't look too hard.

Damn it.

Thanks

https://www.ecumaster.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/DataLogerDL1Manual.pdf


4 wires
Instructions are clear 

[m1tch]

If you are concerned about the engine being damaged on boost, perhaps look to just run with the turbo wastegate pinned open - the turbo won't spool up and produce any boost so would be basically running like a slightly restricted NA engine. Would be easy to just uncouple the wastegate actuator, you can then just reconnect it when you get to where you need to go.

[mr9]

If you are concerned about the engine being damaged on boost, perhaps look to just run with the turbo wastegate pinned open - the turbo won't spool up and produce any boost so would be basically running like a slightly restricted NA engine. Would be easy to just uncouple the wastegate actuator, you can then just reconnect it when you get to where you need to go.

That's is an idea. Potentially extra safe.

I think the real risk is leaks and bolts I've forgotten to tighten, plus cooling demands of climbing an alpine pass.

[1979scotte]

If you drive it gently you want make any boost. Or tell the boost controller to only allow 3psi.

RRR don't do the best road maps the world has ever seen but I'm sure they're not dangerous.

Your AFR sensor knock sensor and ECB should keep you out of trouble anyway.

Tbh if you're that apprehensive get it transported instead. Not cheap but cheaper than fixing a blown engine.