Rep TRD wings

Started by No.Lows, August 20, 2022, 23:40

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No.Lows

Hi,

Does anyone have experience with rep TRD wings/ducktails? Are they any good? Worth spending nearly double for a genuine

Ardent

nope, sorry cannot help you with that one.

Hammond

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I got one from an account on instagram under the handle Speedfx1. The TTE duckbill cost me £165 including delivery. I then paid a body shop to prep it and paint it before I fitted it.

Speedfx duckbill


05' silver

J88TEO

If the genuine one is of the same colour as your car then the cost may not be that much more than the replica ones, taking into account the prep and painting cost.

Hammond

Quote from: J88TEO on August 22, 2022, 15:41If the genuine one is of the same colour as your car then the cost may not be that much more than the replica ones, taking into account the prep and painting cost.

This is true however it could be a long waiting game for one to become available etc
05' silver



onion86

#7
The pics / eBay links above are TTE ducktail spoilers, not the TRD spoiler, so depends which specifically OP is asking about as has mixed TRD and ducktail.
The TRD spoiler has arms and a built in brake light, like the pics here - https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?topic=63134.0
HZ Dynamics copy - https://www.hzdynamics.co.uk/spoilers/toyota/toyota-mr2-tr-boot-spoiler.html
I think the main difference is the TRD is 3 parts and the copies tend to be 1.

General consensus is likely that the genuine would be better. However, with spoilers they won't be that different really, as apposed to e.g. a bodykit which may need a lot of work to make it fit properly.
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SuperArt

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Quote from: J88TEO on August 22, 2022, 21:51@SuperArt has a TRD stage 1 rear spolier for sale a while back.
https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?topic=72905.0

Thanks. Yes still available.
I have genuine TRD stage 1 low spoiler and genuine TRD VM180 high spoiler (in second image behind the Bodykit which I sold a few weeks ago here to Norway).

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In my opinion having had both genuine and having seen in person replicas there is a huge difference.

You will not find any one else on earth as anal about MR2 parts authenticity or so allergic to replica parts than me so it should give you an idea of the lengths I go to in order to spot differences.

Who else bothers weighing the fake vs real parts? Who else bothers to make sure to find genuine end plates?
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Very simply. Original parts are what you expect having come direct from the car maker (or subsidiary).
- High consistent quality throughout the part
- Correct fittings/fixing designs
- Potentially more durable

What I have noticed with the reps is prevalence of warping (to various extent) of the parts. Where there are design elements such as inset or raised parts or cutouts these designs do not follow the original lines very well, I hesitate to use the word wonky but it's not far off. The reps tend also to have inconsistent thickness.
Reps also have modified fittings. The rep stage 1 wing is not three piece like the originals, the rep stage 2 (VM180) wing doesn't have bolts coming out of the part, you have to screw into it instead.
Also I can confirm the genuine wings are heavier and sturdier products.

Other than that it's just bragging rights that you have everything genuine to the small % of owners who care about such things.
Best regards,
Arthur
Essex - "Always happy to meet up for a weekend drive"
Making demented squirrel noises since 2014
TTE "Turbo Dodo" - https://www.mr2roc.org/index.php?msg=797148
TTE Turbo "Friday" - https://www.mr2roc.org/index.php?topic=73711.0

TheTigerUK

Quote from: SuperArt on August 23, 2022, 13:15Who else bothers weighing the fake vs real parts? Who else bothers to make sure to find genuine end plates?

Very simply. Original parts are what you expect having come direct from the car maker (or subsidiary).
- High consistent quality throughout the part
- Correct fittings/fixing designs
- Potentially more durable

What I have noticed with the reps is prevalence of warping (to various extent) of the parts. Where there are design elements such as inset or raised parts or cutouts these designs do not follow the original lines very well, I hesitate to use the word wonky but it's not far off. The reps tend also to have inconsistent thickness.
Reps also have modified fittings. The rep stage 1 wing is not three piece like the originals, the rep stage 2 (VM180) wing doesn't have bolts coming out of the part, you have to screw into it instead.
Also I can confirm the genuine wings are heavier and sturdier products.

Other than that it's just bragging rights that you have everything genuine to the small % of owners who care about such things.


This is exactly how I and quite a few others feel about genuine OEM watch parts, there is so much fake and after market stuff about its like a minefield but you just can't beat OEM, I would rather go without than fit after market/fake watch parts.

Would a old fart like me get any benefit from one of these braces ?

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Quote from: TheTigerUK on August 23, 2022, 16:26This is exactly how I and quite a few others feel about genuine OEM watch parts, there is so much fake and after market stuff about its like a minefield but you just can't beat OEM, I would rather go without than fit after market/fake watch parts.

Would a old fart like me get any benefit from one of these braces ?


Without spamming the thread too much, no, it wouldn't be worth the expense and time to fit it.
60% of the time it works everytime...

SuperArt

@TheTigerUK that centre member brace is hit or miss. If I put my weight on it I can definitely make it twist so it probably isn't doing much on the car.
Save yourself the hassle/expense and forget about this design.
There's better out there.
Best regards,
Arthur
Essex - "Always happy to meet up for a weekend drive"
Making demented squirrel noises since 2014
TTE "Turbo Dodo" - https://www.mr2roc.org/index.php?msg=797148
TTE Turbo "Friday" - https://www.mr2roc.org/index.php?topic=73711.0

Petrus

Quote from: SuperArt on August 23, 2022, 17:29@TheTigerUK that centre member brace is hit or miss. If I put my weight on it I can definitely make it twist so it probably isn't doing much on the car.

Also think about how/where it is mounted and ask yourself how much structural form stiffness adds a 2D frame bolted right under a float bottom.

SuperArt

Quote from: Petrus on August 25, 2022, 23:22Also think about how/where it is mounted and ask yourself how much structural form stiffness adds a 2D frame bolted right under a float bottom.
We are drifting off topic here but depending on execution quite a lot!
This one is an example (by TTE no less) on how it isn't done.
Best regards,
Arthur
Essex - "Always happy to meet up for a weekend drive"
Making demented squirrel noises since 2014
TTE "Turbo Dodo" - https://www.mr2roc.org/index.php?msg=797148
TTE Turbo "Friday" - https://www.mr2roc.org/index.php?topic=73711.0

Petrus

Quote from: SuperArt on August 26, 2022, 12:24We are drifting off topic here but depending on execution quite a lot!
This one is an example (by TTE no less) on how it isn't done.

Drifting mwah. It does illustrate that even the technical performance developments by TRD are not necessarily a  indication/guarantee of good/better/best.

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