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Title: New Car - Problems....help for newbie
Post by: Anonymous on March 16, 2006, 13:10
Hi All,

Just bought a 2nd hand MR2 last weekend (only 9 months old) but over the past week I've had a few problems develop. Not sure if this is "1st owner" worries or if I should take it to my dealer to get sorted asap. The problems are:

1) Squeaky clutch - annoying more than anything else
2) Condensation in the back lights
3) Interior door lock not unlocking. Trapped in car for 20 minutes yesterday (fun!!)
4) Seal (exterior) along drivers window loose near wing mirror.

Any advice on what I should do and ways of dealing with the dealer would be of great help. Just to note, I bought the car in Hull but live in Northampton so is the local mrT decent around here??

Cheers.
Title: Re: New Car - Problems....help for newbie
Post by: kanujunkie on March 16, 2006, 13:17
Quote from: "drewdawson"1) Squeaky clutch - annoying more than anything else

if it comes from down by your feet then it the cable assy need greaseing

Quote from: "drewdawson"2) Condensation in the back lights

sorry, live with it, you can get the seals changed but it'll only work for a little bit before comeing back

Quote from: "drewdawson"3) Interior door lock not unlocking. Trapped in car for 20 minutes yesterday (fun!!)

get that fixed asap, in the event of a fire you wont have 20mins to open the door

Quote from: "drewdawson"4) Seal (exterior) along drivers window loose near wing mirror.

again get it in for a new one, but to worn you the seals are about £150 each
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Post by: Anonymous on March 16, 2006, 13:22
Hello and welcome.

Personally, on a 9 month old car I think no niggle is too small to give the car back to MrT to sort. Make the b******s work for your warranty!!

Had to laugh at point no. 3   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  , had a mental image of you looking helpless in your car peeking out the windows......  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  

Not quite sure what you meant.   s:? :? s:?   Had you locked the doors from the inside using the central locking button on the right of the wheel and they then wouldn't unlock properly, or was it just that the doors wouldn't open after a journey?
Title: Re: New Car - Problems....help for newbie
Post by: SteveJ on March 16, 2006, 13:23
Quote from: "kanujunkie"
Quote from: "drewdawson"1) Squeaky clutch - annoying more than anything else

if it comes from down by your feet then it the cable assy need greaseing


It's a hydraulic clutch on the Roadster, so no cable to grease   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  

There is however a pivot point that may be dry - IIRC it's a pig to get to - as the car is only 9 months old get the dealer to sort all of the problems under warranty.
Title: Re: New Car - Problems....help for newbie
Post by: kanujunkie on March 16, 2006, 13:27
Quote from: "SteveJ"It's a hydraulic clutch on the Roadster, so no cable to grease   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  

just come off nights feeling thick!


as its only 9 months old, take it back and just tell them to sort it all!, i'm up to £22K of doing that, its your right to have them fix it on a GB bought car that new
Title: Re: New Car - Problems....help for newbie
Post by: Anonymous on March 16, 2006, 13:30
Quote from: "kanujunkie"i'm up to £22K of doing that, its your right to have them fix it on a GB bought car that new

So that's why they looked pale round at Abbey when your name was mentioned in hushed tones......  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Title: Re: New Car - Problems....help for newbie
Post by: kanujunkie on March 16, 2006, 13:36
Quote from: "weaselchops"
Quote from: "kanujunkie"i'm up to £22K of doing that, its your right to have them fix it on a GB bought car that new

So that's why they looked pale round at Abbey when your name was mentioned in hushed tones......  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

funny i've noticed they sigh before saying anything to me  s:? :? s:?  

i hear they're throwing a party in June, for something or another  s:? :? s:?
Title: Re: New Car - Problems....help for newbie
Post by: Anonymous on March 16, 2006, 13:37
Quote from: "kanujunkie"
Quote from: "weaselchops"
Quote from: "kanujunkie"i'm up to £22K of doing that, its your right to have them fix it on a GB bought car that new

So that's why they looked pale round at Abbey when your name was mentioned in hushed tones......  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

funny i've noticed they sigh before saying anything to me  s:? :? s:?  

i hear they're throwing a party in June, for something or another  s:? :? s:?

  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:   I'm sure you have a "shopping" list ready for between now and then.......
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Post by: markiii on March 16, 2006, 13:39
just to clarify t's your right on ANY EU sourced car not just GB, Toyota are one of teh few companiies that have warranties for new vehicles applicable across teh EU. And for identical timescales, i.e 3 years across teh board.


they may say otherwise, but speak to Toyota GB if in doubt.
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Post by: fg on March 16, 2006, 14:07
I am from Northampton.

I had my old Celica serviced by Sims, no problems at all, well cared for. Thanks to Toyota build quality, had nothing to mention to them at all, not a single niggle in 2 years.

Havent had the '2 serviced yet, but when I bought it from there, all was well.

I think some others have had "issues" with Sims, hopefully they will be along to comment.
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Post by: Anonymous on March 16, 2006, 14:09
Cheers for the help everyone. I'll take it to a dealer on the weekend.

In response to my 3rd point - I was using the lock buttons to the right of the steering wheel and they locked fine but they didn't fancy unlocking the car though. Not sure what was worse, not being able to get out or sitting outside blockbusters with 3 pikey kids looking at me (or the car) as I cooley tried to get the bl**dy door open whilst trying not to look very flustered. Eventually drove off once I realised things weren't going to improve and admitted defeat!  s:cry: :cry: s:cry:
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Post by: kanujunkie on March 16, 2006, 14:12
couldn't you use the lock on the door itself?

it is a direct cable operated lock/unlock
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Post by: Anonymous on March 16, 2006, 14:28
Quote from: "fg"I am from Northampton.

I had my old Celica serviced by Sims, no problems at all, well cared for. Thanks to Toyota build quality, had nothing to mention to them at all, not a single niggle in 2 years.

Havent had the '2 serviced yet, but when I bought it from there, all was well.

I think some others have had "issues" with Sims, hopefully they will be along to comment.

I've used Sims on a number of occasions, and had nothing but grief. I will NEVER take my '2 there again, they left mounting blots out of my Box when they did some work on it, plus they over price hugely compared to other dealers.
For example last service:  Sim         £295
                                      Sturgess  £180 (Incl Brake fluid change) (Plus the best service I have ever received)

P.S: Milton Keyens is meant to be quite good aswell.

IMO Stay Clear of Sims Northampton.
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Post by: edward.carter on March 16, 2006, 14:34
Quote from: "drewdawson"Cheers for the help everyone. I'll take it to a dealer on the weekend.

In response to my 3rd point - I was using the lock buttons to the right of the steering wheel and they locked fine but they didn't fancy unlocking the car though. Not sure what was worse, not being able to get out or sitting outside blockbusters with 3 pikey kids looking at me (or the car) as I cooley tried to get the bl**dy door open whilst trying not to look very flustered. Eventually drove off once I realised things weren't going to improve and admitted defeat!  s:cry: :cry: s:cry:
could of always dropped the roof and jumped over the door like they do in all the films...  s8) 8) s8)
Title: Re: New Car - Problems....help for newbie
Post by: kanujunkie on March 16, 2006, 14:37
Quote from: "weaselchops"s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:   I'm sure you have a "shopping" list ready for between now and then.......

  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  you better beleive it, they get nowt for free
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Post by: heathstimpson on March 16, 2006, 20:34
Quote from: "extremeMR2"P.S: Milton Keyens is meant to be quite good aswell.
I use Steven Eagels in Milton Keynes and find them to be reasonable  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: Anonymous on March 16, 2006, 20:46
i take it the deadlocks must have kicked in? if thats the case then the only thing that would unlock the doors is the button on the key.

dont take this the wrong way, but perhaps you accidently pressed the lock button on your key a few times within the car and deadlocked yourself inside?
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Post by: kanujunkie on March 16, 2006, 20:52
Quote from: "Richie"i take it the deadlocks must have kicked in? if thats the case then the only thing that would unlock the doors is the button on the key.

dont take this the wrong way, but perhaps you accidently pressed the lock button on your key a few times within the car and deadlocked yourself inside?

possible if the button on the key was pressed twice, but otherwise not possible normally, the deadlocks can not be activated in any other way other than the key being pressed twice. opening the door lock otherwise will manually unlock the door.
Title: Re: New Car - Problems....help for newbie
Post by: Anonymous on March 16, 2006, 20:58
Quote from: "drewdawson"1) Squeaky clutch - annoying more than anything else
I have exactly the same problem but it appeared after 3 years & 25,000 miles.  It's seriously annoying...
Title: Re: New Car - Problems....help for newbie
Post by: kanujunkie on March 16, 2006, 21:00
Quote from: "Emmanuel"
Quote from: "drewdawson"1) Squeaky clutch - annoying more than anything else
I have exactly the same problem but it appeared after 3 years & 25,000 miles.  It's seriously annoying...

do what i do, turn the stereo up!
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Post by: Anonymous on March 16, 2006, 21:30
I have to admit Judas Priest help a lot but I am actually considering taking the car to Toyota.  It's their labour costs that put me off...

I reckon they would charge a minimum of 5-6 hours as the engine needs to be dropped to access the clutch...  Unless it's not the clutch per se but some part of the hydraulics.
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Post by: kanujunkie on March 16, 2006, 21:59
Quote from: "Emmanuel"I have to admit Judas Priest help a lot but I am actually considering taking the car to Toyota.  It's their labour costs that put me off...

I reckon they would charge a minimum of 5-6 hours as the engine needs to be dropped to access the clutch...  Unless it's not the clutch per se but some part of the hydraulics.

not convinced thats true, they didn't drop mine, when the clutch and flywheel was installed, but i'll admit i dont know how they did it outside of that
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Post by: philster_d on March 16, 2006, 23:15
mine squeeky too
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Post by: Anonymous on March 17, 2006, 01:12
Mine squeeked too @ 16K miles last autumn.  I had a service at Mr Ts & they couldn't find anything (most probably they couldn't locate the clutch pedal), winter came - squeek went.  

Roll on summer with the top down and the return of the squeeky clutch pedal!
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Post by: spit on March 17, 2006, 02:20
Quote from: "ShaunyF"Mine squeeked too @ 16K miles last autumn.  I had a service at Mr Ts & they couldn't find anything (most probably they couldn't locate the clutch pedal), winter came - squeek went.  

Roll on summer with the top down and the return of the squeeky clutch pedal!

This sounds very familar - me too!

Its something we've talked around quite a bit in the past and never really got to the root of the problem. I think Steve (Two's Company) had his fixed successfully but its late, I'm tired and I might be talking complete b@ll@x .... not for the 1st time  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

Ste
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Post by: nafe on March 17, 2006, 08:26
I live in Brackley and I always use Steven Eagell in Milton Keynes.
Never had any problems with them ! Always very helpful and reasonable on price when compared to other Toyota dealerships.  s:) :) s:)
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Post by: Anonymous on March 17, 2006, 11:18
Quote from: "kanujunkie"
Quote from: "Emmanuel"I have to admit Judas Priest help a lot but I am actually considering taking the car to Toyota.  It's their labour costs that put me off...

I reckon they would charge a minimum of 5-6 hours as the engine needs to be dropped to access the clutch...  Unless it's not the clutch per se but some part of the hydraulics.

not convinced thats true, they didn't drop mine, when the clutch and flywheel was installed, but i'll admit i dont know how they did it outside of that
I hope you're right Stu although I am not really sure how you can get access to the clutch without dropping the engine - unless the mechanic is an advanced yoga instructor in his spare time...

I'd be interested to know if anyone here knows how to gain access to the clutch without dropping the engine.  Adam or Aaron?
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Post by: kanujunkie on March 17, 2006, 11:33
Quote from: "Emmanuel"I'd be interested to know if anyone here knows how to gain access to the clutch without dropping the engine.  Adam or Aaron?

i'm at Marks tomorrow to sort out a few club bits, i'll have a look at his  from the pit and see wether its possible.
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Post by: markiii on March 17, 2006, 11:33
supposedly if you disconect front a rear engine mounts you can rotate the engine and slide tehbox off without dropping it
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Post by: aaronjb on March 17, 2006, 11:47
Quote from: "markiii"supposedly if you disconect front a rear engine mounts you can rotate the engine and slide tehbox off without dropping it

I reckon that would work, but my memory of the underneath of my car is a bit fuzzy at the mo.

Probably one of those jobs that's easier on ramps than with the pit, though - otherwise you need to be lifting the box off with your arms at full stretch.. If you're on your back under the car you can bench-press it out, or use your chest to rest it on*

*If you break any ribs doing that, it's not my fault -- but if I can get a Nissan auto-box off like that, I reckon ours should be a doddle to lift  s;) ;) s;)
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Post by: kanujunkie on March 17, 2006, 11:49
i'll take photo's tomorrow