Hey all,
Fitted my short shift last night (after 2 hours - due to some hugely stupid mistakes on my part), and well impressed. Really makes the shifts sooo much better and it feels like a sturdier gearbox because of it. Easy to fit (when you're not a fool like me) and like the Corky, makes a huge difference to driving the car.
Recommend it to everyone!
Oh thanks to the spydermagazine's guide.. worked a treat!
Did you use the same star retainer washer ?
I had it break a few days later ofter I reused it.
Anyway was a disaster stuck without proper gears. but I managed to source some now.
Ill drop you a couple of spares over for emergencies.
Philster.
Slurpy,
Which shifter did you buy? There's quite a few different types out there from £20 ones on ebay to £150+ TRD jobbies.
If yours went in fine then I'd be guided by your recommendation.
did you fit the speedsource brass bushes at the same time??
they make a real mechanical feel to gear changes, if you want to try some then have a go on mine on saturday
i can also highly recommend the speedsource bushes for ~£15 those plus shortshifter are just amazing!!
What's happening Saturday is there a meet? That'd be cool, cheers Kanu.
The kit I fitted was Che's one... it feels very good, very solid. I'm not sure what you mean by the star washer.. where does that go? Is that the one that sits over the main bolt parallel to the pin at the front of the gear lever?
I forgot to replace the plastic grommet that sits over the side bar of the shifter at first, so everytime I was in gear, it would go in fine, but then wobble about like it was in neutral.. not a nice feeling!
Quote from: "edward.carter"i can also highly recommend the speedsource bushes for ~£15 those plus shortshifter are just amazing!!
Here's the link, if anyone is looking for it: m http://www.speed-source.net/ (http://www.speed-source.net/) m
just fyi...
i installed the TRD shortshifter back in July last year (i think), and it was just easy......plug and play. s:D :D s:D
The shift is stiffer and more direct.....lovely.
I especially didn't want to install the gimmicky shift sticks one can find on ebay, for the hassle of the install.
If it works fine for your slurpy that's great! s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
The meet is practicaly in your back garden, see events section.
Regards,
Philster.
Quote from: "Slurpy J"What's happening Saturday is there a meet? That'd be cool, cheers Kanu.
yeah its the Epsom Downs one that you've already put your name down for!!!
Ha, I'm such a fool.. I shall be there, it's about 3 minutes from my house!
Quote from: "Slurpy J"Ha, I'm such a fool.. I shall be there, it's about 3 minutes from my house!
only 10-15mins for me, surprised i've not seen you around the area
Yeah... I actually saw a silver 2 this morning, with the Toyota kit on it and some new wheels.. wondered if it was one of our lot...
Very odd I haven't seen you about though like you say. Ah well, I shall see you on Saturday!
well it wasn't mine, i've not got dressed yet let alone walked out the door
anyway back on topic
So yes, short shift = the nuts!
Quote from: "Slurpy J"I'm not sure what you mean by the star washer..
s:shock: :shock: s:shock: With the B&M kit, you get a replacement star or locking washer. It looks like a washer but has slits cut in it and is bevelled and is held on by friction. It should only go on in 1 direction. Usually they are a PITA to remove and not damage.
Black cars go fastest, easy to miss s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
dont worry what it looks like, get one from Phil just in case and if worst comes to the worst i know where he got them from
whats the worst comming to worst ? me getting run over ?
heh
Quote from: "philster_d"whats the worst comming to worst ? me getting run over ?
heh
your wierd Phil! s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Oh I know the thing you are talking about... Mine came off and went back on pretty easily... and looks pretty stead fast on there right now, but I'll take a couple off you Phil if that's alright? You want my address? I can PM you..
Just had some dents taken out of the 2 from the previous owner today, looks all lovely now.. yay!
Are the Speedsource Brass Bushes better than the metal ones supplied by Che? Also what is a shifter cable brushing kit and how does this work?
Quote from: "kj"Are the Speedsource Brass Bushes better than the metal ones supplied by Che? Also what is a shifter cable brushing kit and how does this work?
the metal bushes supplied by che are the ones that go under the shifter cage itself. the shifter cable bushing kit, is the speedsource parts and the are two metal bushes that go on the end of the cable in the engine bay, hope that helps
Thanks edward,
Just wondering has anybody done a write up on how to install the bushes on the cable?
Seen the report on installing the B+M stick and the metal brushes but whereabouts is the cable, sorry but my knowledge of gearboxs and such like is non existant s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
to my knowledge no
however it is so easy with teh instructions supplied that it's almost impossible to get wrong.
Fancy rwriting teh article when you install yours? we are always looking for new articles
A little two scared to take a dip without knowing more but a che shortstick and some speed source parts sound good but until today I didn't know how any of it worked?
Quote from: "kj"Thanks edward,
Just wondering has anybody done a write up on how to install the bushes on the cable?
Seen the report on installing the B+M stick and the metal brushes but whereabouts is the cable, sorry but my knowledge of gearboxs and such like is non existant s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
the cable goes from the gearstick down the centre tunnel and into the engine bay and the speed source bushes replace the standard rubber ones on the end where the cable meets the gearbox (just behind the airbox) see here http://www.speed-source.net/shifter_cable_toyota_instructions.htm
edit: the only tricky bit with the cable bushes is getting the old rubber ones out because they are really stiff, but a good flat headed screw driver and and good push from your thumb and they do pop out eventually! s:) :) s:) the new ones just drop in in a matter of seconds
thats it exactly, once you have access to them, (may involve removing teh airbox if you still have it) it's a 10 minute job with needle nose pliers and a screwdriver
this has to be the easiest mod I'v ever done
Ok talked me into it, Should I buy the speed source metal brushes or are the pieces from che's kit ok
You dont get the speed source brushes with che's kit... you don't get any kind of brush. Che's kist comes with just the gear lever parts. You'll need to by the speed source bushes as well if you want to change the brushes.
two different things, the che short shifter kit bushes are the ones that go under the shifter cage under the actual gearstick.
the speedsource bushes go on the end of the cable in the engine bay
Arn't these brushes shown in Che's kit.
(http://i5.ebayimg.com/03/i/05/9e/e3/f8_1.JPG)
Nope. Those are the ones for under the shifter itself.
Ok
I'm now offically confused, the brushes in Che's kit only support the shortshifter to what for wont of another word is the deck, Yes? So do the speed source pieces connect to the cable or where, Am I being thick and will this all explain itself when I get the console off andf can see for myself. I,ve looked on the on line instructions but dont know what it is the pic are showing me
ok, back to basics
che's shifter bolts into a white plastic cage in which normally the oem non short shift stick sits
this white cage is supported from teh floor by 4 rubber bushes 1 at each corner
in order to enhance teh shift action and keep the pivot point teh same, che (and B&M if you buy theirs) supply 4 thicker metal bushings that you use instead to support teh 4 corners of the cage.
at teh other end of the gear cables (engine bay side) the cables terminate in an o shaped metal ring. this slips over pins on the actual gearbox shifter mechanism.
from teh factory the o ends of teh cables are lined with rubber bushings, the speedsource bushings are brass and replace these in order to further tighten and enhance the shift action.
that help?
Quote from: "kj"the brushes in Che's kit only support the shortshifter to what for wont of another word is the deck, Yes?
Yes.
QuoteSo do the speed source pieces connect to the cable
Yes.
s;) ;) s;)
this article
m http://www.mr2roc.org/subdreamer/index. ... ticleid=11 (http://www.mr2roc.org/subdreamer/index.php?categoryid=9&p2_articleid=11) m
is for installing teh B&M shifter but since ches is to all intents and purposes a copy of teh B&M you it applies just as well and should illustrate the che's part of teh process
Thanks Guys,
50% for the answers 50% for having the patience to listen to the questions
I fitted mine today well yesterday and finished it today as it started to rain yesterday. Not a hard job but fiddly. make a big difference to how quick you can change gear and how direct it feels. I would recomed it to everyone
I know this has been discussed before just want to check - Isnt it true that the TRD short shifter is problematic with the 6-speed box? Otherwise I want one as not too keen on the off centre solution.
Just want clarification ta!
Quote from: "ninjinski"Otherwise I want one as not too keen on the off centre solution.
I thought the offset would be a problem as well, but after 6 months of the B&M, it's really is not an issue. You just get used to it. I still get a grin watching the wife with her 2 handed reverse selection though! s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
Quote from: "karlus972"just fyi...
i installed the TRD shortshifter back in July last year (i think), and it was just easy......plug and play. s:D :D s:D
The shift is stiffer and more direct.....lovely.
I especially didn't want to install the gimmicky shift sticks one can find on ebay, for the hassle of the install.
If it works fine for your slurpy that's great! s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
How much did the TRD one set you back Karlus s:?: :?: s:?:
Quote from: "heathstimpson"Quote from: "karlus972"just fyi...
i installed the TRD shortshifter back in July last year (i think), and it was just easy......plug and play. s:D :D s:D
The shift is stiffer and more direct.....lovely.
I especially didn't want to install the gimmicky shift sticks one can find on ebay, for the hassle of the install.
If it works fine for your slurpy that's great! s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
How much did the TRD one set you back Karlus s:?: :?: s:?:
I bought it from a guy on Spyderchat for 100 $ if I recall correctly. It's delivered with the white plastic "frame" and the knob s:oops: :oops: s:oops: . You just need to take the stock frame off, and screw the new one in. The only little pain we had was to fix a tiny little piece of metal underneath the stick, but it's just a matter of patience. I am very happy with it, it's to me one of the best mods I've ever done s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Quote from: "ninjinski"I know this has been discussed before just want to check - Isnt it true that the TRD short shifter is problematic with the 6-speed box? Otherwise I want one as not too keen on the off centre solution.
Just want clarification ta!
after a couple of weeks you honestley dont even think about it being off centre, you do get used to it s:) :) s:)
Quote from: "ninjinski"I know this has been discussed before just want to check - Isnt it true that the TRD short shifter is problematic with the 6-speed box? Otherwise I want one as not too keen on the off centre solution.
Just want clarification ta!
TRD do actually list a seperate kit for a 6 speed box, see here
m http://trdparts.jp/english/list_mr-s.html (http://trdparts.jp/english/list_mr-s.html) m
but I've never found anyone who supplies it outside of Japan, just 5 speeds only.
Quote from: "mg"I still get a grin watching the wife with her 2 handed reverse selection though! s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
I grin even more...now she's stopped driving it s:D :D s:D
Your right this dosn't look to hard, Had a look today and I can see what needs changing, So I think I'll treat myself to a early birthday present with a Shortshifter from Che and a Shifter Cable Bushing Kit from Speed Source, they also do a Shifter Base Bushing Kit
(http://www.speed-source.net/images/product_shots/shifter_base_1.jpg)(http://www.speed-source.net/images/product_shots/shifter_base_2.jpg)
I don't need these though Right?
Just wondering has anyone ever bought any of the gear knobs from them? They look a nice piece of kit but I'd probabley be able to get something similar from this end of the Pond.
nope you dont need the base bushes as these are included in with the che s;) ;) s;)
only difference between Che's short shifter mounts and those, is Che's are alluminium and those are brass
Quote from: "kanujunkie"only difference between Che's short shifter mounts and those, is Che's are alluminium and those are brass
Think of the weight saving s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Just Ordered the Brushes from speedsource, Think I'll try them before going for che's short shifter, going to check out Simon's first (simonmr) before I order ( that ok simon?).
I'll do a full write up when I fit them
Thanks for the help,
Kj
Put my TRD quickshifter in today. It was very straightforward. The only tricky bit was disconnecting the clips holding the wiring for the window switches.
I love the action on the new shifter. So much tighter than the old one. I didn't realise how mushy the old one was until now.
I don't love the TRD knob, though. I put the stock one back. The TRD knob is too small and has stitching in a bad place. Also, it doesn't meet the chrome ring at the top of the shifter boot, and that looks bad, IMO. I'm thinking of buying one of these instead:
(http://www.trdsales.com/shop/shop_images/119%5B1%5D.jpg)
Quote from: "Ernie Ball"Put my TRD quickshifter in today. It was very straightforward. The only tricky bit was disconnecting the clips holding the wiring for the window switches.
I love the action on the new shifter. So much tighter than the old one. I didn't realise how mushy the old one was until now.
I don't love the TRD knob, though. I put the stock one back. The TRD knob is too small and has stitching in a bad place. Also, it doesn't meet the chrome ring at the top of the shifter boot, and that looks bad, IMO. I'm thinking of buying one of these instead:
(http://www.trdsales.com/shop/shop_images/119%5B1%5D.jpg)
Try winding the knob down further. I wound mine down until it touched the chrome ring s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Ref the meet up, been to the events section and everything is dated 2005, am I looking in the wrong place??
why are you asking about a meet in this thread?
Sorry, been looking at loads of topics and somewhere in this thread Slurpy J mentioned about a meet up in surrey, Didnt check which section of the forum I was in.
You missed that one it was the epsom meet I think.
check the events section regularly for any new update.
We have a good scatering of members around here and growing so it wont be long.
EG the treasure hunt I think will be fairly local this year s:) :) s:)
Also we try to keep individual threads on topic so hence the suprise of others if you post off at atangent like that.
See ya,
Philster.