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The Workshop => Audio / Security / Electrical => Topic started by: Anonymous on April 25, 2006, 21:07

Title: What do you reckon?
Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2006, 21:07
Found this guy on that web auction site. Considering replacing the Fisher Price with one of these fly MD units. How easy a job would it be? Will there be any power/tuning issues? Anyone fitted any of the units?


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Post by: red_leicester on April 25, 2006, 23:00
I haven't fitted one myself.  Changed my stereo to a single DIN and it was pretty easy.

Now this...

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Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2006, 23:06
LOL

I knew it was going to be that one. They should come as standard!
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Post by: ghollis_84 on April 26, 2006, 08:09
I havnt fitted one myself either, but the poineer one(with all the pretty colours) on his page is the same one i have except mine is a CD Tape not a CD MD, i should think it is a straight swap, i think it is a little thinner than stock as it has a surround with it. Mine came with the car as mine is an MR-S and the Jap stereo's dont work over here.

Hope this helped

Grant
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Post by: Anonymous on May 4, 2006, 12:43
[Homer on]

Mmmm... Nakamichi...

[Homer off]



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Post by: Anonymous on May 4, 2006, 14:19
 s:? :? s:?  What the Story with the Valve one?

Looks kinda interesting but don't valves break? Someone once told me that valves on guitar amps are better but why?
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Post by: kanujunkie on May 4, 2006, 14:27
Quote from: "kj":? What the Story with the Valve one?

Looks kinda interesting but don't valves break? Someone once told me that valves on guitar amps are better but why?

Valves do break or burn out, but they have a really good redeaming feature, in a word "Feeling". A Thermionic valve amplifier works in analogue and will create a warmer sound over a modern day electronic amplifier, its still the choice of high end sound systems and are freely available in good stereo shops, i've just never seen one for a car and for the life of me i dont understand why anyone would bother, the sound from outside would destroy the benefits of the amp
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Post by: aaronjb on May 4, 2006, 14:32
Quote from: "kj"Looks kinda interesting but don't valves break? Someone once told me that valves on guitar amps are better but why?

Valves were incredibly fragile - they'd brake through use, break through vibration, break if you looked at them... AFAIK they are a lot more robust now, more comparable to transistors than fragile glass jars  s;) ;) s;)

You get a more 'natural' sound from a valve than a transistor, thanks to it's greater ramp up & ramp down time with regard to the voltage they are switching, compared to a transistor (which is basically instantly 'on' or 'off')

That's my understanding, though I'm sure if we have a resisdent electronics engineer they'll be able to tell me how woefully inaccurate I am  s:) :) s:)


Incidentally I fitted a Pioneer DEH-P70BT plus iPod interface last night, and it rocks   s8) 8) s8)

[edit] Beaten to it because I had to go help someone out in the lab room. d'oh  s:) :) s:)
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Post by: kanujunkie on May 4, 2006, 14:38
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Post by: spit on May 4, 2006, 14:40
Yep I've had experience with a lot of rack mounted valve pre-amps being roadied to gigs around the country and they're a darn sight tougher than they used to be!

I can see how this would appeal if you drive a well-insulated high-end saloon but not a good investment for a naked roadster.
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Post by: filcee on May 4, 2006, 17:20
WARNING: Thread hijack!

Quote from: "aaronjb"Incidentally I fitted a Pioneer DEH-P70BT plus iPod interface last night, and it rocks   s8) 8) s8)

How easy was the iPod dongle to fit?  Any chance of a fitting guide?  I posted a query ages ago about adding one of these to my DEH-P77MP, but haven't got round to fitting one yet.  I am now sorely tempted to do this, as they have gotten very cheap lately.
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Post by: heathstimpson on May 4, 2006, 20:23
Quote from: "kanujunkie"http://www.marshallamps.com/resources/secret_life_of_valves/secret_life_valves.asp
JIm Marshall is a local to me and has his factory up here  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  

A lot of mates at work have been recently buying valve amps for their home systems from China from a company called Jolida. They look the biz with the valves and transformers on show, and have a top sound for the dosh. Thinking of upgrading my amp for one. Oh the valves last about six years before they need replacing  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: aaronjb on May 4, 2006, 20:45
Quote from: "filcee"How easy was the iPod dongle to fit?  Any chance of a fitting guide?  I posted a query ages ago about adding one of these to my DEH-P77MP, but haven't got round to fitting one yet.  I am now sorely tempted to do this, as they have gotten very cheap lately.

It was a piece of cake - I just tapped into the permenant +ve and -ve's in the Pioneer stereo sub-loom (I know, not the best way to do it, really, but valid  s;) ;) s;) ), fed the power and link wires up into the glovebox from behind the stereo (really easy) and then velcroed it to the side of the glovebox with the provided velcro..

Would take half an hour to add it to an existing install I reckon, if that.. depending how quick you can get the sides to the center console bit off, and the heater controls facia  s:) :) s:)

Controls on the P70BT are nice and intuitive, though not the greatest.. probably about as good as you can get on a small screen without going up to a touch screen device, though.
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Post by: Anonymous on May 5, 2006, 15:20
Hi Aaron,

What it like using the phone? My local retailer just told me hes fitted 3 and hes had problems with all.

He told me to wait for the newer version the DEH P55BT
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Post by: aaronjb on May 5, 2006, 15:56
Well I can make calls from the phone OK, no idea if I can receive them as nobody has called me on it yet  s;) ;) s;)

I haven't managed to transfer the phone book to the stereo yet, though, which makes dialling from the stereo basically impossible..
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Post by: Anonymous on May 7, 2006, 09:57
With regards to the valve one, I very much doubt it sits on the amplification stage.  I have never heard of a valve amp producing 45wpc at any price level.

I reckon the valve sits at the cd player's DAC stage and at that price I doubt it's any good...